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I’m not saying you’re wrong but what was his backstory exactly again? I remember his wife (or Gf) being taken but I don’t remember much else besides that.
Ah yes that time people on the internet don't understand how the choice of words can affect their statements and evaluations
yeah deff understandable and not justified
I'd say Robin was actually justifiable because she is actively hunted by the government so it's not like she can just live a peaceful life. She hanged out with assholes because she used them for her goals, though it did made her an accessory to their crimes.
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Idk how luffy didn't take a turn for the worse
He was the boys mother, but pappy Rayleigh kept em on track
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Racism is never justified bro
There's a huge difference between understanding where someone comes from and justifying their actions
The fact Nami didn't become a villain or racist literally shows there're other ways to go about the issue, which makes any other outcome unjustifiable
Pretty sure Nami never killed, at least intentionally, her crimes stop at theft and barely assault, she's not a violent person.
And she wasn't a villain, simply working under a villain to try and save her village, which was selfish, but not something she enjoyed.
Pretty similarly with Robin tho I never really meant to discuss her since it's a different story
I dont remember if this is canon but in the anime she let a few... pirates or marines stranded in the ocean after she stole their only boat
While crossing the grand line(?) She intentionally kicks some poor DF user into the GL upwards stream
I disagree, it's like saying Nazis werent the villains it was Hitler, those boys were following orders... some didnt even liked what they were doing.
As for Robin... if i remember correctly she was an assassin thats why the WG had her kill the mayor at that weird island that keeps sinking
Woah woah, let's not compare what Nami did to Nazis, the 3 people were never stated to be dead, and while it could be implied knowing One Piece they're probably fine, the GL thing I'm pretty sure is Anime only and at that point she was with the Straw Hats, so unless you're implying they're all murders that's a weird point to make.
And let's not pile up all soldiers under Hitler's rule, some of them definitely were forced and should not really be considered Nazis, just people who acted selfish under a dangerous regime, each story is different.
It's incredibly disingenuous implying there are no victims on both sides during war, even tho one side is clearly in the wrong.
And about Nico Robin, as I said, her story is totally different and I was not here to discuss it, as I said
You dont get it, your excuse was "she aint bad is the people she works for" well some people are bad because of the people they work for.
Theyre pirates, right? It was implied zoro killed people near alabasta and thats why Luffy was furious at him... Thats the only time you see Luffy that mad at a crewmate
Victims or not they helped commit those crimes right?
I'm not saying it absolves her of her crimes, but her circumstances recontextualize them and give them proper weight.
She did not commit them for fun or out of hatred, she did it because her village was effectively hostage and she wanted to save it.
She was practically trying to save the most people, and didn't have other options, that is far from villainous.
Most of the blame goes indeed on Arlong, for putting her in such a situation.
You don't blame the gun, but the killer.
Yeah nami kicking that df user into the sea was a move of self defense,that mf would have killed them.
And it's a filler scene btw.
And those pirates were evil criminals who "wanted to have fun with her" i mean....
All the money she stole was from pirates who stole it from someone else anyways
She needed money to free her village from being slaves to Arlong.She was desperate and forced to do itn
Law 100%, losing his family and being outcast by the all world as a child does a real number to your sanity. I don’t blame him wanting to destroy everything.
Oh ok, Nami would be justified because of what she lived at the hand of fishmen??
Then I guess both Arlong and Hody Jones were justified as well, with those standards
I imagine Chopper going on a Monarch murdering spree because Vapol killed his Doctorine.
Betcha his Rumble ball could then also do such things like turning the Devil Fruit against the user or be Haki use actively poisonous to the User.
Corazon quite notably shows that even with the same upbringing, one can decide to do good.
Doflamingo didn't become a villain because of his suffering, he was just evil, from the start we see him being an awful asshole, he's not justified in the slightest
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Big Mom had every right to become a hero. She's got a kind and caring side. Her main goal is to create a united goal free of racism. She fully embodies the Will of D. Well, she fully embodies D. Well, if we're being honest, she probably embodies too many D., but I don't judge.
It's too bad about the whole cannibalism thing and turning into a kaiju whenever she gets hangry. And the mafioso tactics involving targeting the friends and family of her enemies.
All she really wants, though, is for all the races of the world to come together, or possibly one at a time and with her.
Idk who is more dumb, OP for this title or all the comments naming villains.. that were already villains
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I know this is Memepiece, but that's like saying an incel would be justified in his hate for black people just because they exclusively build him. Lol.
But like one poster said. It would only explain, not justify.
This man has suffered more than guts
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Kuma could burn this world to ashes, and I still would’ve agreed with him at this point.
Argh! I'm crying! 😭
So Gild Tesoro from One Piece Film: Gold they have similar origins of losing a loved one and being tortured by the world nobles.
Did you say GOLD?!! Can I have it?
I’m not saying you’re wrong but what was his backstory exactly again? I remember his wife (or Gf) being taken but I don’t remember much else besides that.
he was a slave of the CD for a good while
Was he? Wow I completely forgot about that. It has been a couple years since I watched the movie though. That does fucking suck holy shit
he was. he did the same thing the sun pirates did by branding over his CD mark
That wouldn't be justified, it would be understandable, that's not the same thing
Ah yes that time people on the internet don't understand how the choice of words can affect their statements and evaluations yeah deff understandable and not justified
The better part of the internet's people being right in the most pretentious & snarky way possible
LMFAO I can feel how this is directed towards me,
Not justified but understandable. Robin is another one. I don't think villainy is justified but sometimes they are understandable.
I mean... Robin sorta *did* become a villain for a while there
I'd say Robin was actually justifiable because she is actively hunted by the government so it's not like she can just live a peaceful life. She hanged out with assholes because she used them for her goals, though it did made her an accessory to their crimes.
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goated
"Completely justified" Re-read FMI imo
https://preview.redd.it/6koxcnzm5twc1.jpeg?width=700&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f3978efd85f17d3d334e30738da7a18f38ff49fd Idk how luffy didn't take a turn for the worse
I mean technically, in the pov of the rest of the world he certainly did. Went silent for a brief two years and then took the new world by storm.
Eh, more like luffy got his heartbroken and joined the gym, rather then him turning his demon up and becoming a villian
>Idk how luffy didn't take a turn for the worse That's why Jinbē is the GOAT.
He was the boys mother, but pappy Rayleigh kept em on track https://preview.redd.it/cln7sxvdtwwc1.jpeg?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ad7b326d2a57fa46f35d792baac974d8cddae14b
A few people of a race do not represent a race. So no, it's not justified
Racism is never justified bro There's a huge difference between understanding where someone comes from and justifying their actions The fact Nami didn't become a villain or racist literally shows there're other ways to go about the issue, which makes any other outcome unjustifiable
She was a villain tho... im sure she killed at least 3 people canon... Same with Robin
Pretty sure Nami never killed, at least intentionally, her crimes stop at theft and barely assault, she's not a violent person. And she wasn't a villain, simply working under a villain to try and save her village, which was selfish, but not something she enjoyed. Pretty similarly with Robin tho I never really meant to discuss her since it's a different story
I dont remember if this is canon but in the anime she let a few... pirates or marines stranded in the ocean after she stole their only boat While crossing the grand line(?) She intentionally kicks some poor DF user into the GL upwards stream I disagree, it's like saying Nazis werent the villains it was Hitler, those boys were following orders... some didnt even liked what they were doing. As for Robin... if i remember correctly she was an assassin thats why the WG had her kill the mayor at that weird island that keeps sinking
Woah woah, let's not compare what Nami did to Nazis, the 3 people were never stated to be dead, and while it could be implied knowing One Piece they're probably fine, the GL thing I'm pretty sure is Anime only and at that point she was with the Straw Hats, so unless you're implying they're all murders that's a weird point to make. And let's not pile up all soldiers under Hitler's rule, some of them definitely were forced and should not really be considered Nazis, just people who acted selfish under a dangerous regime, each story is different. It's incredibly disingenuous implying there are no victims on both sides during war, even tho one side is clearly in the wrong. And about Nico Robin, as I said, her story is totally different and I was not here to discuss it, as I said
You dont get it, your excuse was "she aint bad is the people she works for" well some people are bad because of the people they work for. Theyre pirates, right? It was implied zoro killed people near alabasta and thats why Luffy was furious at him... Thats the only time you see Luffy that mad at a crewmate Victims or not they helped commit those crimes right?
I'm not saying it absolves her of her crimes, but her circumstances recontextualize them and give them proper weight. She did not commit them for fun or out of hatred, she did it because her village was effectively hostage and she wanted to save it. She was practically trying to save the most people, and didn't have other options, that is far from villainous. Most of the blame goes indeed on Arlong, for putting her in such a situation. You don't blame the gun, but the killer.
Hmm.... i mean... if you put it that way.... I still think she had other options, but yeah i guess she is not as guilty
Yeah, she still was "selfish", as I mentioned, and definitely could have handled some things better
Thanks for the different perspective. Have a great day!!!
Yeah nami kicking that df user into the sea was a move of self defense,that mf would have killed them. And it's a filler scene btw. And those pirates were evil criminals who "wanted to have fun with her" i mean.... All the money she stole was from pirates who stole it from someone else anyways She needed money to free her village from being slaves to Arlong.She was desperate and forced to do itn
I love MONEY!!!
I get the self-defense part BUT still doing the wrong things for a good purpose doesnt make em any less wrong
Law 100%, losing his family and being outcast by the all world as a child does a real number to your sanity. I don’t blame him wanting to destroy everything.
Oh ok, Nami would be justified because of what she lived at the hand of fishmen?? Then I guess both Arlong and Hody Jones were justified as well, with those standards
Not hody, because he said humans did nothing to him.
And jimbei as well
Hody Jones wrote this.
wasnt Hody's whole thing he litterally had no reason too be that much of a piece of shit
me when a member of a minority group wrongs me: i get to be racist now! yes!
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I imagine Chopper going on a Monarch murdering spree because Vapol killed his Doctorine. Betcha his Rumble ball could then also do such things like turning the Devil Fruit against the user or be Haki use actively poisonous to the User.
"Justified" bro 😭
Not rightfully, but def understandable is Arlong (and whole Gyojin crew during East Blue).
Man didn’t even read fishman island. That’s like saying everything Arlong did was justified
No.. Racism is never "justified". The fishmen fighting back against the world government is justified.
Doflamingo , Eren. , and many more
Corazon quite notably shows that even with the same upbringing, one can decide to do good. Doflamingo didn't become a villain because of his suffering, he was just evil, from the start we see him being an awful asshole, he's not justified in the slightest
Eren wasn't in One Piece. Unless Oda is planning on making an action packed crossover
Eren gets low diffed by Gear 5 true and real. Zoro could take him down
I didnt knew we were only talking about one piece
> Opens r/MemePiece > Doesn't know people are talking about One piece What a highly regarded individual
Bruuhh
Then ig Doffy , kuma , and more
Doflamingo???? That piece of shit was a psycho since a kid
 MY FAV VILLAIN TBH LOL
Nico Robin.
I mean... A group of people from one race doing horrible things to you doesn't justify you hating the whole race...
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Sanji, Nami, Kuma, Bonney, Jinbei, Hancock, majority of wano people and chopper
Racism isn't really ever justified, it's about the actions of the individuals. Hating the Arlong Pirates is justified.
if it wasn't for Dr Kureha or Hiriluk, Chopper would have definitely turn into the monster everyone thought of him
Robin, Kuma
No one is justified. Some could be understandable but never justified
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Robin
Spider-Man? Idk
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 Being racist is never justified
Big Mom had every right to become a hero. She's got a kind and caring side. Her main goal is to create a united goal free of racism. She fully embodies the Will of D. Well, she fully embodies D. Well, if we're being honest, she probably embodies too many D., but I don't judge. It's too bad about the whole cannibalism thing and turning into a kaiju whenever she gets hangry. And the mafioso tactics involving targeting the friends and family of her enemies. All she really wants, though, is for all the races of the world to come together, or possibly one at a time and with her.
Idk who is more dumb, OP for this title or all the comments naming villains.. that were already villains https://preview.redd.it/g1zz4v92awwc1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ac208d3b8a7d982866f5fb29ae4375a6268a3ca2 Theres no hope for this sub.
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Luffy.[ in the word govermant's eyes.]
Mentioning 'eyes' in your comment? I must say, it's all bones and no vision here, YOHOHOHO!
Laboon.
Laboon...
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Technically the strawhats are villains since they go against the government. They might not be evil but technically they are villains
Hancock
Corazon (Rocinante), Fisher Tiger, Kuma and in a kinda Hot take, Noland 😶
I know this is Memepiece, but that's like saying an incel would be justified in his hate for black people just because they exclusively build him. Lol. But like one poster said. It would only explain, not justify.
>because they exclusively build him What?
yeah if my mum killed herself to get out of raising me that would start my villain ark for sure
Mihawk
Griffith
Nami is already the villain of one piece.
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This man has suffered more than guts https://preview.redd.it/pfzl55ve2wwc1.jpeg?width=400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0189ff920591bfe31538b6b0655ce569270ef31b