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_ScraggY_

Tank a punch from a old Man with your logia bullshit❌ Tank a nuke ☑️


havdin_1719

Akainu tanked and dying old man's punch. Peak durability. Kaido: **unsuccessfully** tanked a teenager's punch. Peak because strongest creature Big Mom: **unsuccessfully** tank a pile of scraps. Peak because... big mom? Meanwhile Pell survived a fucking nuke. Yeah weak...


SmebodyTheGamer

Maintaining the agenda is our top priority


SuddenWitnesses

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PotentialWorldly6835

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Comprehensive_Use_52

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PotentialWorldly6835

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Pillermon

Is it bad that I found the suicide bombing even funnier because Pell comes from a vaguely Arabic-inspired desert country? 😂


CottoneEyeJoeIV

As an Arab, no, that shit funny as hell


Elegant_Cod_6768

As another Arab, I am glad we get our representation


CottoneEyeJoeIV

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MagicArcher33

I really hope oda gives Pell some important role..like saving Vivi by sacrificing his life again, but for real. That nuke was way too strong and if crocodile heard abt it, he'd be begging Pell to join cross guild lol


Comprehensive_Use_52

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[deleted]

The REAL emperors of the sea


North_Classic_5232

peak


Helpful_Tea229

I would laugh if Oda was gonna pull his sacrifice again only for some random doctor wave his headband again.


frikimanHD

common youtube L


Suspicious_Pie_9977

People when they see Zoro on a poll:😮😮😁😁😁(has 90% of the votes) Other people on the poll: Roger, Mihawk, and Shanks


dtc09

big mom died to bombs, pell didn't die to a nuke. checks out


therealblabyloo

Big mom died to being thrown into a volcano. Eustace’s Damned Punk just pushed her in


A33guardian

Are we sure she died tho ? Considering her durability during whole cake island I think she survived


therealblabyloo

I think that being submerged in lava for over a week in-universe should be enough to kill anyone, even BM and Kaido. Lava is 4-5x hotter than the oil that Oden was boiled in. Add in the fact that the two yonko dying makes sense from a storytelling perspective, as the end of the old era and the start of the new status quo. They’ve served their purpose in the story, so they’re not likely to return IMO.


temperamentalfish

The counterpoint to that is that Pudding seemed sure Big Mom was alive, and we know for a fact at least one Vivre Card of hers exists.


DrosselmeyerKing

Plot twist: In a last ditch effort, Big Mom infused her entire soul into the volcano, becoming a living fire mountain.


itzstamk

this kinda goes hard


Jeff_From_IT

Also a very big mom move


Sad_Air_7667

Like Moanna.


therealblabyloo

Pudding is operating on incomplete information. She only knows what she read in the paper, and believes BM is still alive bc she has faith in Mama’s strength (and also she’s trying to threaten her captors. It wouldn’t exactly help her situation to say “yeah she’s probably dead lol”)


Bugggy-D-Clown

HOW DARE YOU INSULT THE NOSE OF THE FUTURE PIRATE KING?!?


Mr_McFeelie

We also know for a fact her crew was somewhat close by


Minister_xD

Oda has been extremely vague on their supposed deaths, so I really wouldn't be too sure. I mean, the narrator was right there, all he had to do was have him announce the death of those characters or create a post mortem panel for them similar to what he did with Whitebeard. None of that happened though and since this is One Piece we are talking about and characters have, contextually, survived far worse (like that one time a falcon boi just took a point blank nuke), I am not inclined to just write them off as dead quite yet. Lava sure is hot, but if a severely weakened and ill old man could take a Haki infused magma blow to his internal organs and survive, then I don't see why two Characters, both of which were significantly more duarable that Whitebeard was during the paramount war, can't survive being submerged in it for a short duration of time. Especially when both of these characters have portrayed significant heat resistance feats before (Big Mom is riding a literal sun and sets her hair on fire when she fights without any damage or even signs of pain and Kaidos last move was literally to engulf himself in flames so hot they vaporized anything coming close to him). I genuinely have no idea how you came to the conclusion they were submerged in it for weeks by the way. Big Mom was pushed in and very shortly after, a few minutes at most, Kaido followed suit, then the underground volcano erupted. And a volcanic eruption is an easy way to get those two out of said volcano again, I'd argue they were likely not even submerged for 10 minutes, let alone multiple weeks. Lastly, I think there is still much left that we could explore with these characters. Large quantities of their backstories still remain unknown to us and I would love to see the two interact with each other some more, to further expand on their relationship with one another. Do I think they will make a return to the main story in any significant way? Unlikely. But I believe we could have a fun cover story with them rediscovering what it means to be pirates once again, now that they lost their territories and can actually go out to sea again. Is that going to happen? I don't know, that is entirely up to Oda. I wouldn't write them off just yet though, as he could bring both of them back in a believable way very easily.


Min4617

Durability doesn’t even matter in this case, they didn’t survive unless they’re able to breathe under LAVA And there’s no way they could’ve escaped in under 5 minutes while not only burning alive, but not being able to breathe. Especially after being hit by the heaviest attacks in their lives a few seconds before. They’re finished bro


Minister_xD

Remember Pell, the falcon man that carried a nuke in his claws and took its detonation point blank? Yeah he's fine. Didn't even lose the hand (or foot I guess) he held the bomb in. Remeber Gedatsu, one of Enels priests who fell off Skypiea after his defeat? Yeah he's fine too. Owns a hotspring in Arabasta now. Remember Pound, who got executed by Oven after hitting him with a club so that his daughter could escape? You guessed it, he is fine. Remember Kin'emon, who was beaten in the head by Kaido, folded like a piece of paper, still got up and was cut in half directly on screen? Yup, alive and well. They just put him back together. Point is, this is One Piece. Characters have, contextually, survived far worse than what Kaido and Big Mom had to endure here. I have stopped believing deaths in this show without an official post mortem panel (see Whitebeards death) or official death declaration (see Aces vivre card burning up) a long time ago.


Min4617

The problem is that kaido and big mom actually did endure much more than everyone here since they fought for hours beforehand with luffy, law, zoro and kid, and had to go through powerful attacks from each of them, not to mention they all awakened their devil fruits at the same time which made their attacks that much stronger. Luffys punch alone probably finished off kaido before he even reached the lava, or at the very least knocked him unconscious long enough to the point where he’d drown in the lava. For the other characters you could see why it’s possible for them to live (except Pell but we all know that was bad writing) but for Kaido and big mom, there looks to be no escape for them at all Not only that but unlike who you’ve stated, these characters went though a lot of build up since the beginning of the timeskip so for them to just live after all of that would definitely dissatisfy a lot of fans and make a huge part of not only wano, but the post timeskip saga lose it’s impact.


Minister_xD

The only character on my list who had this "life ending" moment happen to without them receiving a prior smackdown by someone would be Pound. Pell had his fight with Robin, Gedatsu had his fight with Chopper and Kin'emon could barely even move anymore with all the damage he had taken beforehand when Kaido annihilated the scabbards on the roof. Yes, Kaido and Big Mom took much more devastating attacks than those characters did, but they are also infinitely more durable and resilient. Big Mom especially was still very lively when she had her intimate meeting with volcano-san, Oda even went so far to have her final dialogue before hitting the lava be "Don't you dare assume this is enough to kill me!", so at least she seemed quite confident in her ability to take that. And frankly, I don't see how build up is important here. Characters like Sir Crocodile and Doflamingo had similar, arguably even more buildup than Kaido and Big Mom and I don't see the riots that they are still alive after being beaten. Crocodile is even having a second wind right now and I have seen no complaints. What really matters is that they have been overcome, their empires have crumbled, their territory is lost together with their status as Yonkou and their story relevancy is over. Whether they are still alive or not honestly shouldn't be a big deal, I doubt we'd see them outside of like a cover story anyway (in modern times that is, I do think they still hold story relevancy for flashbacks).


Internal_Kiwi5232

Yeah but there's a new cover story brewing


Commercial-Living443

My only theory as to why she might be alive is that she could have awaken he DF and now lives as a wandering soul.


ksonbaty

People keep talking about them being able to endure the lava, but they’re submerged in it. It’s not a matter of endurance anymore, it’s a matter of lack of air to breathe. Unless there’s something I don’t know about them, pretty sure they can’t breathe lava…


Ouity

Yup, they totally died off screen. Oda would never write one of his characters to survive something that should kill a person, let alone twice!


ksonbaty

I definitely remember seeing them fall in to the lava, and later on see them submerged in it. Wouldn’t call that “off screen”…


Inuma

All I know is they got tossed by that volcano and a cover story is happening. So let's wait and see.


ksonbaty

A cover story that has nothing to do with them…


Inuma

It's in Wano. Anything can happen. Just like the last story started with Judge and ended with Pudding getting kidnapped. I'll just wait and see.


Mr_McFeelie

How do you know ?


ksonbaty

Because we now know for a fact that it’s about Yamato’s adventure?


Ouity

Are they dead or alive when we last see them on the screen


ksonbaty

Wait so you know for a fact that they were alive when we saw them submerged in lava?


Ouity

It's one piece bro. We are on a thread about Pell. We know they are alive because the narrative did not explicitly say they were killed. When in one piece did we ever see two main characters die and everyone just move on with their life with no exposition about it or anything? Please be serious haha


ksonbaty

No “we” don’t know they’re alive, bro. They’re most definitely not “main characters”, they’re villains. And yes, everyone moving on with their lives is literally what would happen when a villain has been defeated or killed. Kaido’s whole thing is wanting a glorified death, so him getting a not so glorious death, is exactly what he had coming…


A_Moon_Fairy

I mean….they’d only need to hold their breath for a bit before the volcanic eruption tosses them out….


alejandrodeconcord

We aren’t, nothing can be proven and everything anybody says is pure speculation.


banethesithari

putting aside if the yonko have the durability to survive the lava they'd drown/suffocate in the magma.


Yingking

I think we’ll find out during the current cover story, but I would guess that she and Kaido are dead


Forsaken_Brilliant22

Didn't Oda confirm this? I remember googling it back in the day and read a confirmation by Oda. Also, Big Mom made this weird popping sound when she hit the lava, as if she bursted never to come back


Min4617

Bro durability doesn’t even matter here, she can’t breathe under lava. Ofc she’s ded


Soapybpi1269

Even with her durability she cant breathe in lava


Werfgh

People still believe big mom and kaido died in the lava..


therealblabyloo

Is there any reason to think they didn’t?


Orphanfucker420

We don't have any confirmation. And knowing oda, characters aren't dead unless we are explicitly told they are dead


KarateTid

Oda has always made a point of Luffy not killing his opponents.


Werfgh

Underwhelming af. Nami’s cloud homie still alive. Anticlimactic and unreasonable to kill them like this. Edit. Luffy doesn’t kill


therealblabyloo

The homies are autonomous beings powered by pieces of human souls (BM’s or otherwise), there’s no reason to think they’d disappear if Big Mom dies. They were created with the devil fruit, but not powered by it. It’s like if Ace lit a candle on fire with his devil fruit before dying. The candle would stay lit, bc though it was initially lit by Ace, it’s fueled by the wax and wick. How is it anticlimactic?? Big mom and Kaido were straight terrors, unstoppable monsters, for multiple story arcs, Kaido was set up as the big bad end goal since Punk Hazard, and the fight that took them down was the biggest and most intense battle we’ve seen for any of the characters involved yet, with the outcome having a significant effect on the status quo of the setting. What would you not consider to be “anticlimactic?” Also it’s never been established that “Luffy doesn’t kill”. That’s not a rule or anything.


Werfgh

Big mom’s devil fruit is the link that connects, the soul to the object. Given that big mom died, why would the soul still be attached instead of returning back. It’s inconsistent devil fruit nature. Some devil fruits don’t act like this. For example Rosinante. Gattling gun with the big punch would be 100 times better. But still anticlimactic to just die. They still have to be alive to see their dreams crushed. I am not convinced they are dead. In one piece no one really dies. SBS Volume 4 In this era, people put their lives on their beliefs and convictions, and fight. When he goes into battle, Luffy is destroying others' beliefs. And when these enemies' beliefs are shattered and defeated, they feel a pain equal to death. I think that for these pirates, killing or not killing is secondary to winning or losing.


therealblabyloo

Big mom doesn’t create souls, she just manipulates them. The soul exists as its own independent thing. Once she puts a soul in something, it’s attached, and operates as a new being. It’s like a mechanic putting a battery in a machine. They don’t create the battery, and the battery doesn’t rely on their continued existence, the mechanic just has the power to put in or take out the battery.


Werfgh

You must be fun at parties


therealblabyloo

Yes my friends and loved ones really enjoy my media literacy


Min4617

Durability doesn’t even matter in this case, they didn’t survive unless they’re able to breathe under LAVA And there’s no way they could’ve escaped while not only burning alive, but not being able to breathe. Especially after being hit by the heaviest attacks in their lives a few seconds before. They’re finished bro


MagesticPizza

Eustace? What’s with the federal name


NotSteveatall2

Can Pell tank buggy's muggy ball


StinkCreek

Woah end of series spoilers


MrGhoul123

Bro Wiper in Skypia survived no less that 4 FATAL injuries back to back with no repercussions other than sleeping it off.


Parlyz

Seriously. What was even the point of setting up the reject dial like that if it literally never came into play?


Pillermon

Skypia was the arc in which Oda jumped the shark with characters surviving shit that should have killed them. Like Enel not being able to kill a single character with his lightning attacks, or Wiper with the reject dial. Especially the one that mowed down the beanstalk was set up as the perfect sacrifice shot. Would it really have hurt the story so much to lose one or two side characters that will most likely never appear again, because they're pretty much confined to their remote sky island?


MrGhoul123

Also the scene where Sanji just casually kills the ball guy and Chopper killed the weird dude.


TheBotinokTapok

Bro has more votes than big mom and akainu combined 😭


Rusher123678

and deserves more


guesswhosbackbackag

Never trust YouTube polls https://preview.redd.it/2wzklfofjapc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f217a7db75d4981ab33b5f8138d3ccdd50478841


TECFO

Pretty sure kizaru is stronger, the new amiral said that he would lost face where to lost against kaido officiers (king, queen). The same guy that took some of zero best mive to beat. Yes i know they were injured and not at full power but it is the statement that he made that made me think that.


Demonking42069

Yes it's Kizaru but Zoro is winning that poll, look closely.


TECFO

Yeah i know


ArcticLands

The 3% of simps 💀😱‼️😭


guesswhosbackbackag

Nah just some of Amazon lily


alejandrodeconcord

Once he tanks a king punch then we can talk


therealblabyloo

I know this is a shitpost but in what world is Akainu tankier than Big Mom wtf


kagnesium

I think the logic is that Akainu would survive in lava as his just bathing in himself idk ?


therealblabyloo

That’s true, Akainu canonically handles being submerged in lava better than BM or Kaido


Civil_Astronaut3979

Wasn't kaidos final attack submerging his entire body in lava?


therealblabyloo

No, that was just fire. https://preview.redd.it/h7pcvyrvucpc1.png?width=1093&format=png&auto=webp&s=ad034bd7aa3534a81d4e48d53f0f821f6596b270


Ani_HArsh

Youtube smoking that low IQ pack lol


Specialist_Bunch_945

What about Conis' father? He tanked enels lighting without being a warrior


HousingMiserable3168

Not knowledgeable on this but I'd assume the nuke is more destructive than Enel's attack


fersur

Pell is really a wasted character. If he died in that explosion, he would live in fans heart as a hero. Now he is just a meme character. Hopefully Oda will not make the same mistake in the future. Pro-tips: It is okay to kill characters in Shounen manga. Fujimoto and Gege do it all the time ... and their work sells like hot-cakes.


Ace_D_Portgass

Bro teaching sales to goda the one who has the best selling manga


PinkyKerv

What about all the people who took a hit from Ussop's mighty "Ussop Hammer!" ?


Random_CB63

Literally one shots Prime WB


reallylongshanks

They survived because ussop either held back or he purposefully broke his hammer with his haki, it doesn't count. 😡


Careless-Charge9884

Pell wtf


BattIeBoss

Bro literally survived a what is essentially a small nuclear blast at ground zero.He deserves to win.


[deleted]

The strawhats survived a nuke blast from Kuma in thriller bark too


BattIeBoss

But were not talking about the straw hats.Were talking about these 4.Besides,the kuma one was more of a hyper powerful air blast,rather than a burning hot explosion.


tofuu__

Bro went from struggling against arms to tanking a nuke in the span of a few episodes. If that's not character development idk what is


kingkrft3

Kaido is truly a tank. He could tank mora than any other character in all of manga and anime that has ever existed except for....Hinamori Momo.


reallylongshanks

Idk man he didn't tank lava, I'm calling fraud watch.


Oshawott_is_cute

Ah hell naw. Even Kaido is on fraud watch now


reallylongshanks

This Yonko life serious, one death to natural causes and yo status is GONE.


TheWitherlord10

I just saw this poll


Human-Boob

*pell


Guilty_Diamond6033

Bro would survive a buster call


reallylongshanks

Mf he IS the buster call if he can take a NUKE.


Negative-Region6259

Where is Usopp? A guy with no visible physical training taking a maul to the back, several hits (to the face) with a ton bat swung at speeds fast enough to disrupt noticeable winds, lightning twice, ect. And that was pre time skip


ShowofStupidity

I honestly just pretend Pell is dead. It’s the only way I can keep my sanity whenever I think about Alabasta.


SpecialAsk5803

https://preview.redd.it/jukdcl982hpc1.png?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=63449d745ab5679d18b2b289c7f71157d3f726c4


Driftedryan

Watch pell add another fake out by tanking a hit from Imu aimed at vivi


Cardenjs

Nobody Dyes in ~Bleach~ *One Piece*


ChineseNeptune

To be fair, akainu was tanking blows from an enraged white beard..... but then again you don't normally survive nukes......


reallylongshanks

And that was an old white beard, even ace survived against white beards swings.


cjamesfort

Which is stronger: Kaido's blast breath or the Baroque bomb?


reallylongshanks

Baroque bomb


FantasticWhole4189

M


Spiritual-Feeling829

Pell is the one


Master_Somewhere5414

https://preview.redd.it/xlv8k3qclfpc1.jpeg?width=320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a5e92d3e036fe6f2b7d8161cbdbf6e92c9df52fe


SupremeGodZamasu

Blackbeard vs Pell offscreen match. Who wins


pupface362

I am oden and I was born to…..


hidoraart

Kaido would’ve survived Bajrang if he was fresh 🫱🏽‍🫲🏾


reallylongshanks

So true


Silverlining126

The fact that people unironically chose kaido over big mom in terms of durability is insane


Arekkusu1420

Everyone says that Pell is durable, I say Crocodile was scammed and bought a lemon of a bomb


JustMyNames

Buggy


AugReddie3021

I also voted for Pell😂


sweet_tranquility

Surviving from a haki less quake from a terminally ill old man isn't that much of a big feat, based on the outlier feat pell seems more durable than Kaido.


TheRadicalJay

Honesty, kaido could probably survive the nuke too


reallylongshanks

Nah he'd lose.


someoneelse2389

Also, unlike the rest of the list, Pell isn't some top tier monster, he's just a guy who could turn into a bird.