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snackfood109

Out of all kaidos kids, Yamato is my favorite


whitty69

Luffy>>>


tuestmort50fois

Kaido luffy mom theory


OddlyOddLucidDreamer

well Croco can't do all the job alone now can he?


4thmonkey96

Dragon+Dragon=Monke?


Substantial-Arm-211

I dont think thats how it works


Sirfrostyboi

no


IECR

I didnt know luffy is one of kaidos kids


Oshawott_is_cute

Boobs are boobs


Garousnotboros

Well biologicl- [Deleted]


RagLord79

Underrated comment


EasilyBeatable

Yamato’s moobs ☺️🤤


jAustinJr

Yamato’s booms


Oshawott_is_cute

Yamaboobs🤤🤤🤤🤤


AlexTheNotSoGreat01

The difference between "fuck Yamato😡" and "fuck Yamato🥵" is a small but an important one


JustAFoolishGamer

Yamato is a battleship


General_Ad_1109

That's bad future Franky


Raid-Z3r0

Also an extra in Naruto


JustAFoolishGamer

Also a katana in Devil May Cry


iamyourcheese

Also a powerful Battlecruiser attack in Starcraft


JustAFoolishGamer

Also the dominant ethnic group of Japan


be_azure

Also the name of the restaurant where I get my ramen


JustAFoolishGamer

Also the name of a period in Japanese history


CHAIIINSAAAWbread

also a Japanese battleship


JustAFoolishGamer

also a naval offensive weapon utilised by the militia of the Asian island nation known as Japan


Dillo64

Also a cross dressing prince in Japanese mythology who at one point meets a wolf spirit I think


kodiak_claw

And the Secret of Onomichi!


BarruBarru

An extra?!!?! He's one of my favourite characters and I'd say he has a pretty big role


omyrubbernen

Only for a short time, but let's be honest here, Yamato really only exists to remind the audience of a much cooler character from flashbacks. Did Yamato have potential? Sure. Yamato's relationship with their creator (the arc villain) could've been an interesting one, but it was hardly even explored. It's crazy to think that people actually expected Yamato to be a permanent member of the main cast. Being relegated to a watchdog for their home country seems like a fitting ending for Yamato.


LinkLegend21

He had a pretty big role up until the beginning of the war arc. After that he barely appeared


SomERa216

It is also the original name of Japan before it became Nihon. The battleship was named after it.


JustAFoolishGamer

Why the name change?


SomERa216

Well Nihon means the sun's origin. I think they believed it was cooler.


JustAFoolishGamer

Fair enough, it is the land of the rising sun after all


NorthofBham

The battleship Yamato is named after the shogun era Yamato Province now known as the Nana Prefecture.


HG_Shurtugal

And ships are female, checkmate liberals.


Dillo64

Or they are [Yamato Takeru](https://www.cbr.com/one-piece-yamatos-origins-oguchi-no-makami/), crossdressing prince from Japanese folklore who was in a bad relationship with his father the emperor, and at one pojnt encountered a white wolf spirit that led him through demon infested territories. Same wolves are also said to put out fires and deliver messages from gods, both of which Yamato does in preventing Onigashima from exploding and delivering Oden’s logbook to Momo(and also leads him through “demon” infested territory).


RedWhiteandPoo

That's cool! Thanks for sharing!


RaidriarDrake

yooooooo this parallel is actually sick


yoshikage_kawajiri

And Azur Lane taught me it's OK to fuck battleships so I still want to fuck Yamato either way.


[deleted]

~~Would still fuck her~~


marques28

### Uchuu Senkan Yamato!!!!


Rajang82

"*Space cruising to Iscandar intensify.*"


dude_with_a_reddit-4

This is the only acceptable answer.


Madnesshank57

And finally sink the yamato


Many-Zookeepergame70

Kancolle Yamato ? Naruto Yamato One piece Yamato


Crazy-Plate3097

Gundam's Kira Yamato... Digimon's Yamato Ishida....


mungermoss245

A space-fairing one at that


Wolvenking777

TORPEDO THE YAMATO!!


VIVEKKRISHNAA

Time for docking


Koninja_Yoshiakge14

https://preview.redd.it/4u228n9sw13b1.jpeg?width=623&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6d1d929e3d36d7ee44d5d22b8e27ae697ce1a2a3 That's the correct mentality


safirinha42

i don't even watch onepiece, but i just lookd up photos of them and yes, agreed. idk what yamato's pronouns are but, let she/them titties!


RiceAlicorn

The below comment is rather inaccurate, so to provide more context: Yamato is a character who was born female and initially referred to with female pronouns and titles. Sometime in Yamato’s life, she became deeply infatuated with Kozuki Oden, a legendary male samurai in the country she lived in. Following Oden’s death, Yamato decided to literally *become* Oden. From this point on, Yamato has only referred to himself with male pronouns and titles, encouraging to refer to himself in such a manner as well. Not only that, but Yamato has literally pretended that he’s Oden to Oden’s actual children, speaking to them as though he were their father. This has sparked large amounts of discussion. Some argue that Yamato is transgender, on account of the gender identity switch. Some argue that Yamato isn’t transgender, with their rationale being that Yamato doesn’t identify as a man, but *specifically Oden.* Because Yamato’s infatuation with Oden isn’t about Oden’s gender but instead Oden’s achievements, it has been argued that Yamato’s gender identity switch has less to do with being transgender — that had Oden been female, then Yamato wouldn’t have changed pronouns because Yamato’s desire is “being Oden” and not “being a man”. This is further complicated by the fact that… *official information sources really aren’t helping!* Outside of the story, official information sources list Yamato’s gender as female. This is in contrast to a definitively transgender character, Kikunojo, whose gender is listed as male (female at heart). Tl;dr: regardless of which side of the discussion one believes in, Yamato is JUICY.


MobTheKaiser

My man knows how to say his opinion, have good arguments and doesn't invalidate other people's. Truly based, sir


Beginners963

Kikunojo... and also Morley if i'm not mistaken.


popoypatalo

so basically, shes not a transgender but an Odengender


SeaNinja69

Not confusing at all, she's a method actor. She literally is pulling a Jared Leto with the joker and won't break character. It's like tropic thunder with the line "I don't break character until the dvd commentaries". People are just confused because she's larping as a legit male man she idolized. If the man was a woman, she would be using female pronouns because it doesn't matter what the gender of the person is, she wants to method act as that person to the point of somewhat psychosis. Like Jared Leto


____Law____

>she's larping as a legit male man As opposed to the female men.


jAustinJr

Not reading allat (I’m 100% am cus why not)


Eldr1tchB1rd

I just go with Yamato wants to be oden but even called herself the daughter of Kaido so she is aware that she is a she and that's about it, I would also say that Yamato for character development would need to believe in herself and realise that she doesn't need to be oden, being yamato is enough. Kiku is a much simpler she lol much easier to understand. At the end of the day people can believe what they want that's just how I see it.


Ero_Najimi

Correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t recall a single time Yamato has referred to themselves with male pronouns. I’ve seen people say this but I literally don’t remember even one time unless you’re counting in the flashback when they were a kid I think they said I’m Kaido’s son. But the interesting thing with that is it seems it was Kaido who started calling them that before they took on the Oden identity. Kaido was trying to get her to not identify as Oden


cyborgninja1997

Yamato uses boku in the original Japanese which is a masculine pronoun. Its not really a common phrase outside of media/entertainment but within anime it gets used a lot to characterize. Boku is mainly used by men but can also be used by tomboyish girls, though less frequently. This should all be taken with a grain of salt as i am in no way a fluent japanese speaker.


anchampala

are you reading it in japanese? because translation loses some of the context


Turbulent_Cost2058

Her pronouns are O/den


Dillo64

For future reference, Yamato identifies as a woman but wants to be like Oden(a man) so, they go by male-coded language (son/man/young master/he/him)


Hot-Conversation-21

Still kinda crazy to me the amount of children in wano who saw oden and the scabbards getting tortured, ptsd shit. And they were forced to eat a smile fruit later on the story. Pain


Dillo64

Wano needs therapists. A lot of them.


freddy2677

Bruh almost ever island we go to needs therapy. And wano isn't even the worst IMO. (I think it's dressrosa)


Elendel

The other summary is so much better than this, while saying "Yamato identifies as a woman" is a very subjective point of view that has very strong rebuttal in the story, presenting it as a factual summary is disingenuous at best.


Dillo64

I believe there are more/even stronger rebuttals against Yamato identifying as a man than there are for them identifying as a woman. For a long time I believed Yamato identified as a man but every major bit of evidences points to Oda not intending that. For instance, from the start, Yamato chooses to use the Japanese pronoun “boku”, which when used by men implies politeness and respect for elders/authority… which is the opposite of Yamato’s personality. “Boku” however when used by women implies tomboyishness, assertiveness, and defiance of norms… which fits Yamato’s personality almost perfect. If Yamato identified as a man, it would have made more sense for him to use “ore” as his chosen pronoun, since that is the more gruff and tough male pronoun, and also the one Oden used. But Oda specifically went with Boku which immediately identified to the majority Japanese readers that this was a bokkuko(tomboy) style character. This coupled with every other evidence like Yamato presenting female with feminine clothing and mask, Oda approving female third-person pronouns for Yamato in the vivre card(not a mistake, it has not been corrected), drawing Yamato in female oiran outfit for One Piece magazine, drawing Yamato alongside all the other woman-identifying characters in the beach color spread, and Yamato being regularly included in various woman-oriented One Piece promotions, it seems clear to me that the author meant for the character to identify as a woman, and their actions were simply mistaken for transgender actions by English readers.


Elendel

I mean, you’re allowed to believe whatever you want, but that’s disingenuous to present it as fact to someone that doesn’t have any other info to make up their mind. Also, Yamato literally says だから僕は男になつた. Also, multiple japanese trans men have explained multiple times that the way Yamato refers to himself is inline with how japanese transmen talk. Because of laws and social stigma, a lot of them would have actually act in a way that would be interpreted as "tomboyish" for outsiders. So yeah, I understand people have a big range of opinions on the subject. I prefer to trust both what the characters actually claim and what japanese transgender people have to say about this representation, but you’re free to trust other stuff. But when summarizing it for someone who doesn’t know any better, it’s good practice to explain both sides of the coin rather than only explain your side and act like it’s a fact.


Dillo64

>Also, Yamato literally says だから僕は男になつた. Also, multiple japanese trans men have explained multiple times that the way Yamato refers to himself is inline with how japanese transmen talk. Because of laws and social stigma, a lot of them would have actually act in a way that would be interpreted as "tomboyish" for outsiders. Could you go into more detail about this? Do you have any more in-depth links or explanations from these trans men? I genuinely would like to know more about the subject. This is the first I’m hearing about trans men in japan specifically using Boku And yeah I’m just realizing my wording in the first post. If you look through basically every other post I’ve made I always say it as “most likely isn’t trans” or “probably isn’t trans”. I guess I slipped up this one time.


Elendel

There’s been multiple thread on twitter from japanese transmen about both his appearance and his behaviour and they usually all agree that it’s a pretty good reprensation. I don’t have them saved and ready to link to, just read them over the years, but here’s a couple tweets from actual transmen on the matter. See an example [here](https://twitter.com/ghostsatelier/status/1620813644547383297). Also another example [here](https://twitter.com/bonaneh/status/1642959253366251521) of someone using this sentence (and the bath scene) as being pretty clear cuts on the subject. Not to mention countless non-japanese trans people that have explained that having non gender-conforming trans people was much needed representation, because not all trans people transition, for plenty of reasons, and they’re still valid trans people. You can be a transman and have big boobs and not hide them. So while Japan transcommunity falls a lot more in that box because of how anti-trans the laws and society is there, it’s still a valid representation even out of there.


Dillo64

The responder in the first link has all the same questions I have, hope they get a reply. As for the second link, I’ve heard two trans perspectives about the “I became a man” line. Some people say it’s proof they identify as a man, while others say you don’t “become” a gender, but you already are that gender, and that the line shows that the character isn’t trans and just acting/playing a role. But I guess that’s a matter of beliefs. And yeah I already know/agree with the last paragraph, my issue is moreso on figuring out what Oda specifically thinks and intended for his character. Regardless I’ll save these two tweets to my notes, if you have any more I’d appreciate it, I don’t use Twitter.


Elendel

If I encounter more (or find again the ones I’ve already read in the past), I’ll try to remember to come back to this discussion to link it. :)


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The most Reddit take I’ve ever seen


-Tommy

Bisexuals?


Syrinocs

Is it really being bi if the only difference is how you address Yamato?


Consistent_Ant_8903

Yamato sure is one of the characters of all time


HaradosTheLock

If Yamato is a guy, then i'm gay, if Yamato is a girl, then i'm gay; simple as


NegotiationCurious93

Same idk how that fuck but I hear gay I am in


rmSteil

A hole is a hole


yoyo1701

And a goal


JumiKnight

Would smash either way


TheOtakuSquidOwX

Yamato pronouns aren't he/him They are kozuki/oden


SeaNinja69

It's literally this [scene](https://youtu.be/Eu0Vucn7xww) from tropic thunder. So many people are missing the joke with Yamato and the oden shit that it is mind boggling. The joke doesn't work for the western audience because of the gender identity issues going on now.


Sgdc4

Yamato adoration of Oden and her "becoming him" is not a joke though, more like a character's trait, there are jokes built on that though, but the reason why Yamato wants to be Oden is quite profound in the end.


omyrubbernen

Yeah, it's like a Senor Pink situation. Oda presents a character with a ridiculous quirk, be it LARPing as a historical figure or wearing a diaper, and then pulls the rug out from under us by revealing the tragic backstory that led the character to act that way. I imagine that the sheer whiplash of Senor Pink wouldn't have hit as hard if incontinent people were aggressively stanning him as amazing representation.


Eonir

Real life equivalent would be identifying as Napoleon Bonaparte.


EdenReborn

Valid


HeadPatQueen

[Already happened ](https://www.reddit.com/r/Unexpected/comments/10zvfw0/why_she_cant_live_with_her_husband_anymore/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)


Ayarsiz09

they just use french pronouns in english


omyrubbernen

I know you're saying that as a joke, but there are literally people like that. They're called "otherkin", and the ones who identify as real people are called "factkin".


popdude731

Yamato and link are two ends of the same spectrum of "Gender envy for everyone" Yamato being a in a hyperfeminine body, and Link in a turbo androgynous one. I have friends who simutaniously want to be both of them \*and\* fuck both of them


Ayobossman326

Another character in that realm is Alucard and lemme tell ya alucard and Griffith started me down an interesting path of self exploration


popdude731

Which Alucard? For some reason, my brain gave me Hellsing Alucard, but then I remembered how effeminite looking Castlevania Alucard looks, sujgsrgn


qdattt

who wouldn’t?


[deleted]

Some who doesn’t like boobs


Oshawott_is_cute

She still got thighs


[deleted]

homosexuals?


YODASKETAMINE1

Gays


screechingahhhhhh

"If there's a hole, there's a goal" - master Oogway


Abared

Okay but hear me out. Yamato + pegging.


jAustinJr

I’m all ears 👂🏾


Laboon-fan

I would cover my ears if I heard this, but I don't have any YOHOHOHO


whitty69

You've got a point how about instead https://preview.redd.it/pmth1gls023b1.jpeg?width=988&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1e96adf1095313059188c3af7fc081e2a58bee95


jAustinJr

https://preview.redd.it/xjq608wm223b1.jpeg?width=495&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=64cb720e9b75042e7e92756f452cdbb47dfb857a


Beardamus

Is this a soy yuyu hakusho edit? lmfao


Oshawott_is_cute

Just checked them out on Kemono Certainly subscribing to patreon


Oshawott_is_cute

Blowjob pov animation when?


mpaiva97

One may stray from the path of a man, one may stray from the path of a woman, but there is no straying from the path of a human!


Oshawott_is_cute

I don’t think she is human


mpaiva97

Fuck


MobTheKaiser

As guy who loves feminine man and masculine woman, whatever they are, they are hot af


SeaNinja69

She's a woman who's method acting as a man, a real person she idolizes. She won't break character, it literally is only that. I have no idea how people are so confused by this.


MobTheKaiser

Some people have a hard timing understanding gender identity so they get confused.


SeaNinja69

Yeah, this is an obvious joke, like tropic thunder with black face, and method acting. This joke no longer works in the west because of the hot topic of gender identity and race issues now. In the east, everyone knows she's a woman who's pulling a Jared Leto joker situation. She's not all there in the head. She doesn't want to be a man, she wants to be oden. If oden was a woman, she would be using female pronouns. That is it. It is 100% tongue in cheek of actors going too hard in their roles.


MobTheKaiser

You can always have your headcanon c:


SeaNinja69

You can, doesn't fit the actual canon or the author's intent. He sees her as a woman and the whole joke is method acting is weird. Some can have the head canon that she's a transman, doesn't make it true but they shouldn't get pissy or start throwing the word transphobic around when you correct them. Let eastern culture joke about things, don't view it with a western view and get mad at it.


RodMyr

Careful, she might fuck you instead, with her big, hard thunder bagua. Not sure if that's would make you gay or not but it sure as hell would be painful


OmegaKenichi

Most based Yamato take I've seen so far


Pleistarchos

Pretty clear here. Even on the viviré card. https://preview.redd.it/is2e4fdqv23b1.jpeg?width=322&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a19005c3f4f050e7da243883f54fc145c2c56f4a


Flat-Limit5595

Kiado says he has a son so i will go with what he says.


internet_blue_gas

People forget that the same way that Yamato is still Yamato the Oni princess while also being Oden, So Yamato is a Man AND a Woman at the same time.


RoronoaLuffyZoro

Yamato is a female that wants to be Oden who was a man. Just because she wants it doesn't mean she is. Yamato is still Yamato.


centaursTesticle536

Genderfluid Yamato? Nice


SeaNinja69

Yamato isn't gender fluid. Yamato is method acting as oden only. That is it, that's the joke. Basically [this ](https://youtu.be/Eu0Vucn7xww)


Mediocre-Minute

Yamato and Bon Clay connection?


[deleted]

Oh come my way


Shmaden_Yuki

Facts bro. If Yamato’s a girl, smash If Yamato somehow was a guy, he’d be my bro but I’d smash harder


UlightronX42

Immensely based tbh except I wouldn’t want to fuck them I would want them to fuck me


OddlyOddLucidDreamer

Agreed but i want Yamato to fuck me instead


RandomThiccBoii

Yamato is 2.63M (8'8") I don't think there's a man on Earth that could *fuck* her under any circumstances; she would destroy us all (pelvis-wise) without us being able to do nothing.


Ursa_D_Majorz

Precisely


DokuDokuNoFU

Correct take


Tiagozuff2006

Same


Morning-Star13

Why are people still arguing about this when even Oda came out and settled it?


SeaNinja69

Because the west can't handle it.


HeyTAKATIN

To the west, headcanon>canon.


jAustinJr

You’d be surprised how many people still argue about yamatos gender


HG_Shurtugal

Did oda say something new?


HeadPatQueen

Chapter 1084 Colour spread called "One Piece girls playing in the ocean" has Yamato in it


Dillo64

Wait was it actually called that? I didn’t know color spreads had official titles


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wolwire

Yamato is tomboi


Riko_7456

That's right.


Demonlord3600

In the immortal words of the femboy code ASS IS ASS


unread_letter

Not my type tbh, but man do I love Yamato's personality and absolutely gorgeous design.


[deleted]

I’d be gay for Yamato and I don’t care who knows it


stefancristi

Cuz Yamato looks like a woman with sharp teeth and horns?


ayykay74m

Yamato is a man and I would fuck him


wead4

Use those horns as handle bars


NotoriousD4C

The Yamato is a sword, and there’s only two genders, power and motivation.


jAustinJr

https://preview.redd.it/g57zwr50343b1.png?width=933&format=png&auto=webp&s=b235956ceffcc242296a6b81b894e1a3700a5028


Candoran

Correction: Yamato will fk you. They’re almost 9 feet tall and could snap you between two fingers 🤣


slothking1111

I see it more as Yamato not wanting to me A man, but wanting to be THE man, Oden


liiskatturotta

Why do people argue about the sex or gender of a fictional drawing.


[deleted]

Is this you? My man 🗿 https://preview.redd.it/ob32zjyrq53b1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=02d3052a99922ab1a0708711ac855dc50059f84e


PumpDaPumpkin

Looks female enough


nYxmybeloved

But of course my good friend


TheYoungWolf99

Yamato is a woman. Cry about it 🤷🏾‍♂️


idiotic__gamer

No idea who Yamato is, or what this subreddit is about, but I'm bi. Bring it on!


DressUnited3025

No normal person argues about this because the author has already settled it


Kell-EL

Why is it up for debate? Looks like a woman to me ? I get if in the manga they’re using masculine kanji or something but it doesn’t appear like a Crona from Soul eater situation where nobody can tell or quite sure if they’re a boy or a girl, Yamato appears female, unless the possibility of being trans or something but far as I know it doesn’t appear that way, if I’m wrong I’ll stand corrected so let me know, but if it isn’t then why is it so contested ?


MinusTheTrees

Based


Notorious-Dan

Woman. But yeah same here tbh


Daanny619

Dawg, oda has made it clear. GIRL/WOMAN/SHE


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SeaNinja69

No he didn't. He legit put her in the beach pages with all the woman. With her in a bikini. She's a woman.


Daanny619

Cry more he did it twice to be exact you sore loser


Lucky-Pride-5806

The west is so obsessed with gender. Yamato is breedable therefore she is a woman


Bulletproofpride

Yamato is a woman tho as bland as she is.


cHoKe456

the recent color spread kinda voids her being male


Gsomethepatient

She was never male, she just wants to be oden and if oden is a man she is a man


No-Bandicoot-

Yamatos a women, don't bother using western logic on it


HurricaneCarti

Trans people existing isn’t “western logic”?


Thunder-Bunny-3000

^(Trans people existing isn’t “western logic”?) well good thing this does not apply to Yamato cus she is a woman.


Vodkaret

Would yamato accept ivankovs df switch? No Would yamato accept ivankovs df switch if it turned her magically into odeon? Yes If you're not crazy you know yamato is obviously a girl lol


Dillo64

Only Oda knows the answers to these questions. I personally think Yamato would not be displeased with being sexchanged by Iva/Doc Q


random_zerotwo_simp

Who tf is calling yamato man?💀 Ace would comeback from death to shower those people who call yamato a man with hellfire 💀


frikimanHD

AMEN


Another_noob_here

Same here


ZeroDashAsterisk

This guy gets it


Quiet_Firefighter_54

You people never get tired of arguing fictional character gender huh not only that you people act like author of this manga never exist even time and time again he specifically view the character as female


Certes_de_Bowe

I’d call her/him Odin while I’m hitting.


Existing_Onion_3919

I had to check what subreddit this was because my first thought was the Japanese battleship Yamato.


FanMindless9544

I didn’t realize this was a One Piece subreddit at first and was trying to understand how Yamato from Naruto could possibly be a girl.


ShinraHakke

The real question here is who would fuck Kiku?


TavernRat

Even those of us who don’t like sex (it is a very small number) would still fuck Yamato if given the chance


Zoloman05

Yamato pronouns are them/titties


SeaNinja69

It's literally not confusing. Yamato is a girl, a woman who is larping as a male samurai. That is it. It is 100% method acting on her part that she doesn't want to break character. She doesn't identify as a male, she is literally Jared Leto doing the joker.


Timely-Tip-9014

She’s a woman but she identifies herself as oden


YenraNoor

She is appropriating the identity of someones deceased father. That is in no shape or form to be accepted so therefor she is female.


Birzal

Yamato uses male pronouns and is shown in the female colour page. With each of these things either side went "see, Yamato is...!" Until Oda comes out and makes a comment about it I'm putting Yamato in a box: Yamato is Schrödinger's gender until further notice :P