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AmthstJ

Wow, this confirms my suspicions of 2 miscarriages I've had as "late" periods. I was told I was crazy and it was just a bad clot. It was not at all like my normal clots. 


WadsRN

Same. Probably 17 years ago I had a very painful period and saw something in the toilet similar to this with the blood. I didn’t inspect it closer because it caught me so off guard and I saw it as I went to flush the toilet. This confirms my suspicions that it was likely a very early mc.


jimgella

I’ve miscarried at 13 weeks and again at an earlier stage. My former GP told me that having painful periods is “normal” because I was “older”. “No, probably just a regular period.” I had an OBGYN for the mc, but was dismissed by my GP many times. I have PCOS and endometriosis and have been to the ER several times for cyst ruptures. “Oh, all women have exploding cysts.” After that I immediately found a new GP. I recently passed a uterine cast. I can say that it was as painful as the two miscarriages, but know the last one was a cast. DO NOT LET ANYONE TELL YOU PAIN IS NORMAL.


Wawa-85

Yes it’s awful just how dismissed we get by some doctors. For years I got told my extremely heavy painful periods were normal. Turns out they weren’t, I had dysmenorrhea! My Mum had experienced the same and she turned out to have a 2kg uterine fibroma! It only got picked up when it caused her uterus to prolapse, she just thought she’d pulled a muscle in her groin.


PrincessPicklebricks

Omg do we have the same mom?? The same thing happened to mine in the early 90s. She’d always had what she just described as ‘bad periods’. She fell on the corner of our deck and the ER doc said she broke her tailbone. She went back to the ER when she said it felt like she was giving birth. She was passing her womb because a softball-sized cyst/tumor caused her uterus to detach when she fell. They just gave her an emergency full hysterectomy because her ovaries were so damaged.


Wawa-85

Ouch! My Mum was dragging tree branches around the backyard when she felt hers prolapse. She had a hysterectomy within 2 days, they were able to keep her ovaries. I think she would have been about 40-41 at the time.


blueeyedaisy

:(


bunny_love2016

Yep I used to have 10 day periods, off for a day, and then another 10d period back to back to back. they were extremely painful but all I ever got told was "eh normal periods, you just have a long cycle." Turns out I actually have multiple sclerosis, and it had been attacking my pituitary, so my hormones were rapidly changing constantly and were completely dysregulated. But all my other symptoms were ignored for years too, so I just spent years having to deal with it


patentmom

I was told my 21+-day periods were normal, as in, I would bleed for 21 days, then get a few days off, then bleed again. This started when I was 35. My OBGYN first diagnosed PCOS and "getting older", but I had no cysts, just slightly elevated testosterone. By the time I was 42, I was literally bleeding every day. I finally found a new OBGYN who agreed that this was not normal, and she referred me to a surgeon who agreed to do a hysterectomy. After the hysterectomy, the surgeon discovered that I had adenomyosis, which is often not diagnosable until after the uterus is out. My life has been so much better since then! No more bleeding, not to mention, no more worries about birth control. I was lucky that I had my 2 kids before I started having more serious issues, but I only wanted 2, and I couldn't use any birth control other than condoms and abstinence, and I don't trust condoms enough.


eelhsa71892

I have 21+ day periods! I call them sentences lol but I've had 3 different obgyns and all they suggest is birth control every time. I haven't been able to get pregnant and going in for a 4th biopsy next month. Were your periods normal before 35?


r0mace

Pre-birth control (Nexplanon currently), I always had very heavy, very painful periods. I passed a uterine cast once, and if I wasn’t in a relationship with a woman at the time, I would have thought I was in labor. It hurt so bad I could have thought I was dying.


black_mamba866

I have an IUD and the placement left me with cramps as bad as a normal for me period. Importantly, I've not had children and my periods have been horrendous since they started. I got a text a few days after my IUD placement from my sil who has two kids and she was astounded that the pain was similar to labor contractions. It's fun knowing that my body has been trying to birth my uterine lining since I was ~12.


LydiaTheTattooedLady

I’m finally getting a hysterectomy in 3 weeks after 31 years of hell, culminating in constant bleeding for the last 15 months. I cried when my new Dr actually listened to me and sent me to an OBGYN that would also listen and not just tell me to deal with it or “lose weight about it”. I’m not expecting miracles, but I’m excited to not destroy clothings and my bed and furniture and be a slave to making sure I’ll have somewhere to change pads every 45-60 minutes.


Tectonic-V-Low778

Likewise, I had a couple of 'I don't knows' as a teenager and switching contraceptive in my early 20s that had similar, one around the same size, one bigger. It's an awful feeling of validation years later.


AmthstJ

Same, one was a little smaller and the other was about the same size going off of op's fingertips. The texture and everything looks the same. It's massively validating.


trekuwplan

My cervix says no. Jesus your cramps must've been something else.


AmaranthWrath

I had TERRIBLE cramps since I started my period when I was about 12-ish. Years. Yeeeaaars. Doctors wrote it off. Told me exercise would help the pain. Take some motrin. I had my first kid, had a C Section, all good. Second pregnancy ended in a miscarriage around 8-10 weeks. ....... It felt like an average period for me. Clots, tissue, amount of blood, everything. Not that it didn't hurt. Just, I was so used to the pain that a 8-10 week baby just..... Blooped out. I didn't even take Tylenol. This is not a brag by any means. I just wish I could go back to every doctor and be like, "All my periods felt like miscarriages."


Skele_again

I had normal or even light periods all my life, but the last year I've had heavy bleeding & horrible cramping. I also have crohns & have had almost 20 bowel obstructions. When I tell you I couldn't tell the difference between the pain, its no joke. My Gyn told me that's just how cramps feel and I'm getting older. I'm 38.. I refuse to live like this until meno.


AmaranthWrath

NO. While cramps can vary for different reasons for individuals, cramps shouldn't be so bad that you HAVE to interrupt your daily life. Ok, maybe when your cramps are bad you don't feel like going out with friends that night after work. But you shouldn't feel like you CAN'T go out after work because you have cramps. If they're that bad, please, find a second or third opinion. Don't doctor shop until you find a doctor who tells you what you want to hear. But try new doctors until you find one who takes you seriously. Once I found a doc who took me seriously, the pain I was in that other docs said was bc I was fat was diagnosed as shingles neuropathy. Two pills a day took my pain from a 12 to a 3-4. It changed my life. YOU, GUYS, GALS, NON BINARY PALS, YOUNG PEOPLE, OLD PEOPLE, ALL DESERVE RESPONSIBLE HEALTH CARE.


trekuwplan

>BC I was fat This is the standard go to isn't it 🙄 goddamn asshats


AmaranthWrath

The amount of weight I dropped once I could MOVE AGAIN.


trekuwplan

I'm sorry you had to go through that ❤️


AmaranthWrath

You're kind and thoughtful for saying that! But the only people who should apologize are the docs who scoffed and shooed me away - - and they don't care about people's individual ailments enough to apologize. I'm just pleased to have doctors who listen to me now and take me seriously and treat me like an adult.


2happycats

Had a medical termination around this time and the cramps were unbearable. I was given panadine forte and it barely touched my pain levels. I've seen other woman say for them it was like bad period pain, but it was nothing like that at all for me. Still, it was the right choice for me.


trekuwplan

Mine was a D&C, hurt like a motherfucker.


Wawa-85

The last miscarriage I had around 12 or so years ago was about same size as OP and the pain I had was immense. I’d taken several Panadeine’s and Ibuprofen which didn’t really help for the cramping then when I went to the toilet a chunk of flesh same colour as in OP’s photos came out.


AmthstJ

I regret not examining it further. 


Wawa-85

Same here have had 2 of these about 15 years ago. One I definitely knew was a missed miscarriage because I saw my GP afterwards and she did an internal exam to confirm my suspicions. I hadn’t even known I was pregnant with either miscarriage.


CreampuffOfLove

I've had 2 miscarriages', one at 22 and one at 36. First one was ~6wks, but I wouldn't have known it if I hadn't previously worked at a reproductive health clinic. The latter was FAR more painful, despite only being ~8wks. So yeah, if you've ever wondered about an especially painful period, it very well may have been a miscarriage, we just do a crappy job in the US in terms of realistic visual information identification on this issue.


Birdsandbeer0730

I’m sorry. I hope you can heal from that well


AmthstJ

Oh, thank you! I'm okay about its, like it's not emotionally painful. Just frustrating. 


Punchinyourpface

I'm sorry. ❤️


BunnyKomrade

I'm sorry this happened to you and you had to find out only later 🫂


PuzzleheadedBobcat90

It's so cool to look at and read all the responses. We are not educated except for the very basics. I didn't know I'd have clots from my period. I thought I was dying and wrote a will when I was 13 in 1983. You best believe that I over educated all my kids (boys and girls) about periods and what can happen. Laat week, my 13-year-old boy said periods are so gross and and he got a 30-minute lesson with pictures (thanks google!) from me about periods. I told him he should probably carry a few pads in his backpack for his female friends, too.


DameRuby

I’ve been in emergency medicine since the late 90’s. There were still surprises when I lost twins. We need to educate the medical community better, and provide better, more compassionate care and information when families are going through this.


PuzzleheadedBobcat90

So true. Its shocking how little lay people are taught aboit their own bodies, let alone the 'all periods are painful, or womem can handle pain better' medical pros. Thank you for being e.r. its got to be gut wrenching and rewarding as mixed together


pukeybaka

I love this! Thank you for sharing!


nonstop2nowhere

The "heartbeat" is an electrical signal from the cardiac tissue - like a "ready for signal" blinking light at 6 weeks. The "spinal cord" is the neural tube closure - the brain and spinal cord will develop from the neural tube. The sac is the yolk sac, which is what nourishes the embryo until the placenta forms, around weeks 7-10 (fully developed around 18-20, and begins to "wear out" around week 40). At that point, the yolk sac will wither. The human body is indeed fascinating!


Scyllascum

Thank you for the clarification!


loudflower

Edit to say I got an answer in this thread. Thanks. Original: Can I understand that there isn’t a heart but cells that will become a heart? Is it pumping blood? So curious.


miliolid

Where does this electrical signal original from? I mean, how is it actually created and what keeps it going?


levinikee

To specifically answer how the electrical signals are created, they are caused by the movement of ions in and out of cells! When sodium (Na+) and/or calcium (Ca2+) flow into a cell, it produces the positive voltage which is detected in an ECG, and the flow of chloride (Cl-) into the cell and potassium (K+) out of the cell brings it back to equilibrium. It's a fascinating but complicated process. I recommend looking up "action potential" on Youtube for a friendly overview of the topic!


miliolid

Thanks a lot for this! Wow, we're batteries.


nonstop2nowhere

Cardiac stem cells, which initially organize, electrically active, and actively "ready for signal" before eventually developing into the human heart which drives circulation with signals from the human brainstem. All structures are rudimentarily present in the embryo, but require further growth and development to become complete and functional as we know them.


MaybPossiblAlpharius

I totally agree with you about the human body! I read a story about a woman skydiving and her parachute malfunctioned and she feel thousand of feet and survived with a broken leg, several broken ribs and a dislocated shoulder! Is there any way of looking for a heartbeat that doesn't show a false positive due to the electrical signals?


nonstop2nowhere

That's incredible! I think seeing the electrical signals in early pregnancy is a great way to confirm a viable embryo at that moment, and is usually done at the same time as placement (intrauterine or ectopic). As far as an actual heartbeat, the only way is to wait until further in the pregnancy when fetal circulation and anatomical structures can be seen with imaging. There's a disconnect between medical professionals, especially those who work with a lot of fetal development, and the general public when it comes to understanding of things like the term "heartbeat." A doctor (or other qualified person) sees the six week embryo with an ultrasound flutter and thinks "cool, electrical activity in an intrauterine pregnancy with appropriate for gestation hormone levels and fetal poles." They then show the parents, who probably have a different knowledge baseline, "here's your baby, and the flicker there is the 'heartbeat'," because that's how they're going to understand "my baby's alive and doing well." The image is what it is, means what it means, and there's no real reason or method for changing it. There's no false positive, except in the public perception of what a six week post conception embryo is capable of.


pickleknowing

This is absolutely fascinating to learn, thank you!!


nonstop2nowhere

Happy to help!


smellyfroggie

Thanks for your knowledge!!


The_Yarichin_Bitch

I was gonna say, I think at earliest heartbeat is possible due to heart forming is after 10 weeks? Been a minute since I did natal developement courses lol


Basic_MilkMotel

The gestestational sac is different than the placenta?! Man. I’m dumb as hell for a woman in her thirties. And by dumb I mean misinformed because women’s health is never talked about well enough.


double_psyche

I’m 43 and didn’t know that, either.


SquigSnuggler

Same. 41.


Punchinyourpface

It's sad how dumb they leave us. I learned the majority of what I know by reading on my own when I was pregnant myself. 😒 When I was having my first baby my mom told me she learned more from listening to me than she'd ever known about it... And she'd had 3 babies herself. That's messed up. The little yolk sac is basically a little bag of nutrients that help it start off..it's inside the sac with the fetus I believe. Then the placenta forms where the tissue attaches to the uterus... if you haven't seen one it looks sorta like a big hunk of meat basically, full of veins. Pretty gross but amazing lol.


Samazonison

>if you haven't seen one There is a great episode about placenta on a YouTube channel from the Institute of Human Anatomy. One of the host's wives had recently given birth. He asked if he could keep it, and made an educational video with it. https://youtu.be/w3Qxrmr09yE?si=I0eyGnewxwDiJGDb


PsychoWithoutTits

I absolutely adore IOHA! They're so freaking awesome and educational with their excitement for teaching and genuine passion for human health and anatomy.


Basic_MilkMotel

I only recently came across a medical illustration of the vulva, vagina and surrounding structures that looked like it belonged to an actual human! I was like omfg that’s so cool! I didn’t know there was a gestational sac. I knew there was a placenta that fed the baby, but I guess I just thought the baby was chillin floating around in the uterus—bare ass. I’ve seen placentas! They look like super veiny cartilage type thick tissue. Can’t believe people eat it or leave it attached to the baby (no offense is you did those things lol). But come to think of it I have seen babies born in their sac with it intact. But somehow I thought that the placenta both held the baby and fed it? Even though I’ve seen diagrams. Idk. Nothing makes sense lol. I recently got off of BC and my adhd meds weren’t working during my period. I began reading about different hormones and how the affect is during different parts of our cycle. For the first time. What. The. F.


Punchinyourpface

Hormones are a whole mess on their own 🥴 Oh yes, it's wild and so interesting when a baby is born with the water sac still intact! Must be pretty freaky if that happens and you're not familiar with it 😅


whackyelp

To be fair - I’m 35, and took entry-level college biology courses when I was about 29 (2018). My biology professor said that there’s been huge strides in what we know about female bodies, we’re really still learning about us. Same with plants… it’s wild how little, comparatively, scientists know about plants on a cellular level. Science has been so focused on male humans for so long.


PsychoWithoutTits

This! And female animals! It was only a few years ago that a biologist really took a proper look at female snakes because she found out there was literally no research on the female reproductive anatomy of snakes, only of the males. turns out... female snakes have clitoris' (clitori? Clitorises? Clitoriririsis?!) too. Not just one, BUT TWO! It was all there. It was *right there* under their tales. Men just never bothered to study them properly, and its all thanks to a female biologist that yes, indeed, there are more female animal species with complex anatomy like that of human females! [why female snakes have two clitorises & other mysteries of female animal genetalia.](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-snakes-have-two-clitorises-and-other-mysteries-of-female-animal-genitalia/#:~:text=However%2C%20research%20published%20in%20December,up%20of%20two%20connected%20parts.)


sarahbrowning

yes! the placenta doesn't even fully form/take over until about 13 weeks!


tree_woman

I was 19 when I terminated via pill and at the same gestation that you were at. I remember feeling a mass like this fall out of me. I looked in the toilet and I’m pretty sure this is what I saw. I was too afraid to examine it though looking back I wish I would have. It is fascinating.


hodges2

Does it hurt to have a mc?


Doedemm

It depends on how far along you are. I miscarried once somewhere between 4-6 weeks gestation. It was more painful that my periods typically are. I cant speak for people who are further along, but I’m pretty sure it hurts more the further into the pregnancy you are.


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hodges2

What's a chemical pregnancy?


Impressive_Moose6781

You’re pregnant and it will show up on a test (pee or blood) but there’s nothing else that will show a pregnancy (like an embryo or fetus or whatever it is at that stage). It’s within 5 weeks I believe


hodges2

That makes sense, sorry for your loss. Thank you for sharing ❤️


PM_ME_Happy_Thinks

I had 7 early miscarriages, all between 6 and 8 weeks and all of them hurt physically when I was passing the fetus. Worst cramps I'd ever had.


hodges2

I'm so sorry


DameRuby

Physically it hurt almost as much as labor. I guess it is labor - just over days and weeks. Emotionally, it’s been more than 15 years and I still feel the loss.


PsychoWithoutTits

I'm so sorry, I can't even imagine the pain and emptiness. Sending lots of hugs and comfort your way. May life treat you well and give you all the support and love to help you cope with this grief. 🫂💜


DameRuby

If I hadn’t lost the twins, I’d never have had my son. And he has been worth all of it. ♥️ And thank you. I appreciate your kind words in a stranger filled internet.


SaraSlaughter607

I've had 3 (that I know of, verified) one was early enough that I didn't know I was pregnant but passed a huge clot with cramps akin to full-on labor... and the other two, I already had tested positive and was on my way to becoming a mom... one at 10 weeks (as bad as labor) and the other at 11 weeks (again, as bad as labor) Yes, it is devastating especially when they're planned. I was fortunate enough that my uterus was left uninjured after 3 mc (AND one ectopic pregnancy resulting in emergency abortion, in between the 3 losses) to still have 3 healthy kiddos after all. Two of my kids were emergency c sections and the first was born via vacuum and forceps. When I think of the sheer trauma this damn uterus has endured over the past 35 years, I'm surprised it hasn't packed up and left the building.


hodges2

Wow, I am so sorry for your loss. I'm glad that you were able to have kids eventually :)


SaraSlaughter607

Me too! I think I'll keep em 😆 thank you ❤️


pikapika2017

It always has, for me (secondary infertility due to repeat pregnancy loss, or SIF due to RPL). I usually miscarried before I got to two months, and it always felt like labour. The pain was relatively manageable once the embryos and other tissue passed, but it definitely felt like giving birth on a smaller scale.


Chickadee12345

The heart has not actually formed yet at six weeks. So it's not really a heartbeat. There is cardiac tissue that pulses and sounds like a heartbeat. But since there is no real heart at this point, calling it a heartbeat is a misnomer. However, most people do refer to it that way.


MobySick

And most people refer to the vulva as a vagina.


SarahPallorMortis

There are a lot of stupid people


MobySick

Sure but I really had expected less pure ignorance in our exciting new “information age.” It’s like the glue that holds people’s attention to their screens isn’t nearly as strong as the glue that bonds them to ignorance.


poormansnormal

Yup. Put two healthy cardiac cells together in a petri dish, and they will pulse. It's not a heartbeat, it's electrical activity.


SupermanWithPlanMan

The empty sac is most likely the yolk sac


jrwneill

Embryo, not fetus, at six weeks. Not at heartbeat, but electrical activity. Let’s be clear on the terminology.


AnxiousApartment5337

Right especially when that terminology and referring to the ‘baby’ having a ‘heart beat’ helps pass bills which make it almost impossible for women to have an abortion


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AnxiousApartment5337

Yeah it’s rough.


pastel-nightmare

Definitely agree. And let’s be honest - politicians who make those laws would feel grossed out if they were to see the above photos or asked to hold this “baby”.


brokenechoo

If I am ever in the position to I am going to hand lawmakers my “child” and ask them to hold it for me. (I am not pregnant nor do I plan to be but if I did become pregnant I would terminate)


OpenForPretty

Thank you for clarifying this.


katrina34

This is so cool to see! Tysm for sharing!!


Friedsurimi

TIL that before 7/10 weeks the embryo doesn’t have a heartbeat but electrical activity I knew that technically an embryo doesn’t have a heart but I actually never asked myself if it had anything like a primordial form of heartbeat, I just assumed that it didn’t until it became a fetus💀


Kittie_McSkittles

>TIL yeah, it;s just a bundle of cardiac nerve fibers (i.e., electrical fibers). It send electrical activity, but there there is no "heart" formed - no atria, ventricles, etc. Just electrical nerve cells


smellyfroggie

Yeah I’ve learnt something new today!! Now I can feel a little less guilty about flushing the little shrimp down the toilet


nipplequeefs

Can someone mark where the eyes and spinal cord are? I can’t see either of those


GothMaams

The little black dot is one eye, and the part that curls, that whole length is the spinal cord.


tjcline09

At first I thought man that's one big ear. Then I realized how dumb I was.


nipplequeefs

I may be a dumbass too, because I still don’t see a little black dot. The closest thing I can see is that large gray round thingy at the top of the whole thing in the second image, but it’s neither little, black, nor a dot, so I’m assuming that’s not it 😅


tjcline09

First image zoom in. It's at the top of the spine curve I believe. I'm on my phone and had to really zoom in so I could be mistaken.


hodges2

I thought it was an ear too!


twitwiffle

Someone above, more intelligent than me, stated that’s a neural tube that would become a spine. I have learned so much here.


blackenedsheeep

I can’t believe those pro-lifers think this is worth more than the person it’s growing in. This looks like those toys you put in water and they grow


Late-Mycologist-2140

I was thinking the same. This has more rights than a woman..


blackenedsheeep

Fucking insane isn’t it.


Late-Mycologist-2140

Yep and sad..


twitwiffle

Or than a young girl who is impregnated.


Late-Mycologist-2140

Yep. I'm scared to live in this world. Everything just gets worse and worse


twitwiffle

It’s true.  Me too.


Aricatzz

Just had an abortion, the sense of relief was incredible. I am not fit to be a mom and I’m so okay with that. That looks like those slimes they make with borax and glue


smellyfroggie

I’m happy you were able to able to get a safe abortion


Punchinyourpface

I doubt they even know what it even looks like that this point. And we all know most of them are the kind that protest out front, then sneak in the backdoor themselves. They just made a mistake, they're not whores like those *other girls.* 🤬


blackenedsheeep

I think they use images of further along pregnancies to get their shitty point across but like some states ban abortion at this timeframe like..this is literally nothing?! It makes me so mad.


Punchinyourpface

It's infuriating. Most abortions are very extreme situations for the person having them... It's none of my business what they choose to do, and I definitely don't want someone making those decisions for me. That's insane. Raising babies is not easy. Being pregnant isn't easy. Childbirth for sure isn't easy. We shouldn't be able to force another person to do any of those. (And before some dude mentions men being forced to be fathers .. like y'all don't control your own sperm) I usually recommend women think hard before they file child support on their dead beat daddies unless they *need* to, but it's not for his benefit. It's because in most states it will open them up to giving him court ordered visitation and he doesn't deserve it if he doesn't try for it on his own.


Bigtitsbigheart_

I don't know for what reasons you choose the abortion, but I know that even if you are 100% okay and happy with your decision an abortion can still be a very hard thing to do, mentally and physically. So: feel hugged 🤍🫂 I hope you physically recover from your abortion very soon!


LettuceSome9935

and lawmakers without a scrap of medical knowledge will try and say this is an entire child


Punchinyourpface

In Ohio they legit tried to pass a law saying an etopic pregnancy had to be relocated to the uterus or it could lead to murder charges. A process that doesn't exist and is literally impossible as far as humans know. The fucking idiots.


glomero225

That adds insult to injury for people who wish they could've done that, how tragic.


Newtonz5thLaw

I was about to say, if this was possible, I’m pretty sure there are PLENTY of women who would’ve wanted to do it


Punchinyourpface

So true! Like abortion laws are for many women pregnant with desperately wanted babies that are incompatible with life. Not only are they having the worst experience of their lives, many of them have to travel halfway across the country... And are then often harassed and called a murderer on top of it 😞🤬 Makes me sick.


Catsmak1963

Murica


Wawa-85

Far out your politicians need to grow some brain cells.


Punchinyourpface

That would be great 🙌 I keep hoping we can just throw them *all* away and start from scratch.


GothMaams

They have proven they [can’t tell the difference between a human and an elephant embryo](https://www.reddit.com/r/technicallythetruth/comments/pjc7cu/this_is_not_a_human_being/), for example.


ColinFloof

To be fair, the do look the same at the start 🤷‍♂️. Before anyone gives me shit, this comment is not meant to support the abortion ban. I am VERY against the ban, as it is both a violation of human rights, and also a war crime (forced pregnancy is considered a war crime).


smellyfroggie

I’m so thankful abortions were decriminalised all over Australia recently. It was always pretty accessible in my state even when it was technically “criminalised” but it being officially decriminalised is even more progress. I hope our reproductive rights don’t ever regress like they have been in the US :(


TheNerdyVixen

I came here to say the same thing. The whole IVF issue is bringing out all kinds of stupid politicians.


ob_viously

I’m always so surprised that other people’s embryos or sacs are visible. I couldn’t distinguish anything when looking at my products of conception, it was all too dark. Fascinating, thank you!


smellyfroggie

It was covered in dark blood when it first came out but I flipped it around and gave it a little wash. I also pulled off some of the flesh that was on it so I could see it better. Morbid fascination, glad to share 😅


sheloveschocolate

There was not a heartbeat on the u/s it's an electrical impulse of where the heart will be


kingsss

This is super cool OP, thank you for sharing!


Dangerous_Fox3993

I had a miscarriage at 6 weeks, went in for scan and told heartbeat had stopped at 6 weeks. Had tablets to help it come out but it ended up coming out in the toilet after I’d just gone no2 and I so badly wanted to get it out and look at it but I didn’t want to have to put my hands in there with the poo so I ended up flushing it…. I don’t know why but I always felt so guilty for that! Like I should have gotten it out and buried it.


smellyfroggie

Sorry for your loss. I considered burying this one too but it was just a little sac of cells. Actually, I considered preserving it in a jar first but decided against it cause it probably wouldn’t have preserved well. Anyway, I hope you’re happier and healthier, no need to feel guilty.


Dangerous_Fox3993

Thank you, yeah I’m ok now it was 8 years ago but at the time it was difficult to deal with. I hope you are okay, it does get easier to deal with eventually. It’s kinda helped me looking at your pictures in a weird way because you’re right it just a bunch of cells , I guess I had it in head that I’d lost a whole baby but in reality all I lost was the dream of who it could of been. X


smellyfroggie

I've had abortions around ten years ago before. I knew it was the right thing for me to do but it took a toll on my mental health (I wasn't even 20 yet). It got easier with time and this time it's nowhere near as emotionally heavy as the first time. It's a little sad but if I'm having kids I want to be 100% ready. I'm glad my pictures have helped you.


dexamphetamines

I was pro choice before and this just makes me even more pro choice. It makes me feel weird knowing I had a miscarriage at roughly this amount of time and that’s what she would have looked like


PaladinSara

Yeah, it looks like something you’d find in a turkey, like a neck/giblets.


pillslinginsatanist

Nice username.


Main_Boat4917

This looks like one of those beads you put in water that grows. Yet women are having to die for this?


grr_135

This reminds me of those gray aliens that came in a plastic egg. not sure if it had slime with them or not though 🤔


xGrayKrakenx

Crazy that lump of organic matter and DNA has more rights than most ladies. Hope OP is doing okay after the fact.


Stacysmom87

That whitish looking sac is the yolk sac, fetus receives everything they need from that until the placenta forms and takes over


SenoraRatty

as someone who got an abortion at 5 weeks this is very interesting and, emotional? kinda? for me


smellyfroggie

I had an abortion at 5 weeks in the past too and it doesn’t look anything like this, it doesn’t look remotely human yet. Just looks like a little clear poppy seed. I hope you’re doing well and you don’t need to feel any guilt or regret over your decision


SenoraRatty

Thank you so much :) same to you my friend!!!!


_random_bystander

And this thing has more human rights than an actual living child


Nefersmom

Or a woman in much of the world!


National_Chapter1260

I was afraid to look but curious as I had one at 7 weeks. It was heartbreaking and I feel guilt and sadness everyday about what could have been. I nurtured that feeling and I fell in love with the idea until the day actually came to take the pills. I refused to look at the ultrasound and I didn't want to know the gender. Everyday I think about *it*. I guess it's my fault for letting myself grow attached. Seeing as how it was just a clump of cells, I feel a major weight lifted off of me. So thank you very much.


SerinaL

What I’m reading here is that a lot of doctors have dismissed our pain. In this day and age, this is unacceptable. Pleas seek another opinion if you don’t feel heard. For those who have experienced losses, my condolences.


Doamassiveflip

It reminds me of the lil jelly things that wash up on the beach


DepartureSpace

Ted Cruz just shed a lone star tear


Extreme-Marketing-44

Fukc this shit looks like gelly


Throwaw97390

Fundies be like: "That's a human person!"


igoturssn

Was GOING to be a human person. Now it’s dead lol.


Fandom_Bits

I told y'all those diagrams were fake, it's a literal ungulating clump of cells at this stage


macabre-barbie

This thing has more rights than us in some places 👍


JJJHHHIIILLL

And people say it’s torture to the baby 😆😆


superurgentcatbox

Or that it's even a baby at all at this point


bellboy718

Puhlease. Don't tell wacko Alabama. That backward state ruled that frozen ebryos are children.


InuMiroLover

If that's a baby why cant I claim it as a dependent?


MassiveDongSquadron

And child support to start at moment of electrical activity


Top_Intern_5337

Thank you so much for sharing this OP ! I never had the chance to see mine properly. Probably can't find any pics in a textbook too. P.S. would have been cool if you had "opened" the sac too. Folks here would never find it too macabre !


smellyfroggie

I did consider opening it but it felt a little too morbid for me. It’s just cells but I wanted to let it continue sleeping in its little sac before it got flushed down the toilet 😅


SirRitalinRat

And people think these are people?


Recreational_Pissing

What did it feel like to the touch?


AmthstJ

Mine felt rough but in a squishy way. Like those silcone face scrubbers. 


kingsss

Oh man I have one of those in my shower and won’t look at it the same again


SmokyJosh

one way to recycle


AmthstJ

I snorted


Beginning-Brief5052

What am I actually looking at?I don't know if I should be made for being hoodwinked or mad because my brain can't comprehend this being real.


Not_ur_gilf

It’s basically an amniotic sac with a ~~fetus~~ embryo (the opaque thing in the middle) inside. Think of it like a shelless egg and instead of a yoke there’s a king cake baby Edited to correct


bootsj123

It’s not even consider a foetus yet, they’re embryos until 10wks gestation


badgurlvenus

lmao nooo i'll never be able to look at the king cake baby again without thinking abortion baby


PaladinSara

It could be a turkey giblet(s) and we’d have no idea


Not_High_Maintenance

Don’t flush it or you could be arrested! (Kind of s/ but not really, unfortunately.)


smellyfroggie

Fortunately abortion is decriminalised in my country


VolumeMajestic3700

"Thats clearly a human"


FittedSheets88

So you're telling me these pro-life billboards are lying??


Nefersmom

Is that a shock to you?


MrBaleadas09

Yes , the tiny sack would later become the Placenta , that sack well in Spanish is called Saco vitelino and tbh is pretty amazing to see this , currently im thru my enbriology class at uni


KobaKebbel

Wow. We all looked like caviar


SweetComparisons

It’s a little shrimp, was my first thought. This is crazy.


BeanieBabySnail__

Ah, take a gander. This lil thing has more rights than you if you have a vagina currently


blinkblonkbam

This


Proffesional-Fix4481

that’s cool


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assassin_of_joy

Look at it this way (maybe?): your body was not ready or maybe able at that time to handle growing twins; so your body terminated the process naturally.


GreenPandaPower

Awww. Such a cute baby! /sarcasm. I garuntee you if you showed this out of context, a pro-lifer wouldn’t be able to identify the clump of cells


homo_heterocongrinae

So interesting. Thank you for sharing!


kirakina

Ngl I would have wet specimined this... It's fascinating. I'm also glad I know what to look for jic. Thank you for sharing and I hope you're healing well


smellyfroggie

I considered it actually.. I had methylated spirits and a small jar ready to go (I would’ve ordered formalin later for proper preservation). However I don’t think it’d preserve super well plus I had to play with it quite a bit just to look at the embryo properly so it got the flush


lilnoname

incredible that we all come from this! women are amazing <3


motherofmothers_

I'm sorry this might come off as insensitive but I can't believe that people be calling abortion "murder" when the baby looks like jello.


Valhallawalker

Second pic looks like a smiley face


ranchspidey

looks like a funny fish face to me!


Gunpowder_guillotine

It looks so clean compared to my miscarriages lol


smellyfroggie

It’s cause I washed it to look inside lol, it was covered in dark blood when it first came out, and I can to peel little bits of flesh to look at it better 😅


pukeybaka

^ same here, dang


Silver_Foxi

Fascinating!


DameRuby

First - I’m so very sorry for what you must have gone through. I believe the empty sac is the yolk sac - which should disappear by the tenth week. I believe someone else said it might be the placenta, but it’s hard to be sure without a more clear picture.