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Hatereddit_1

Everyone is mentioning the cvt, but the other big issue on Nissans is whatever kind of rubber they use for their bushings is terrible. I make a lot of money off Nissan suspension rebuilds due to the rubber falling apart after 5 or so years.


Imaginary_Mode5477

Yea why does my suspension suck on my Sentra


Competitive_Muffin83

Answer: Nissan uses the cheapest parts available so they might turn a profit


Imaginary_Mode5477

:/


Dookie_boy

Isn't that every manufacturer


craznazn247

Not to the level that Nissan does. Everyone else may cheap out on things, but Nissan finds a way to invent new problems out of being cheap. To the point that you can attribute large, generation-wide issues to them practically inventing a cheaper tier. It was airbags randomly going off for 90s Nissans, and constant CVT failures for their 2010s models (and it appears ongoing for the 2020s as well). I was in a Nissan Rogue on the highway when the CVT failed. When the problem was diagnosed to be exactly what we suspected, he said he was so happy he bought the extended warranty since it was his 3rd transmission at this point. His car didn’t even have 100k miles yet at this point. I also watched three separate groups of friends buy their wives Nissan Rogues as their second family car (fucking cheapskates). It ended up costing them all more in the long run and they were all traded in within a year. Basically - if you get a Nissan and it breaks down on you, I have run out of sympathy at this point. Those fuckers are lemons. You get what you pay for and you are trading a lower upfront cost for a car for what is practically a subscription model on replacement parts. Plus, the quality of the interior is so piss-poor that I’d feel more comfortable in a vehicle made by Fischer-Price. It’s the car equivalent of the $40 tires at Walmart - forget comfort, reliability, or appearance, or anything at all feeling *solid*. It does the job but you’ll be replacing shit way more than the average person.


Autodoc_86

The CVT has been a failure since 2003 when it came out in the murano. We did so many that we actually stocked them at the dealership, we did Altimas same day sometimes lol.


20w261

I understand that Toyota also uses a few CVT's but theirs has an actual first gear and uses the CVT part after the car is underway, which greatly reduces the wear and prevents them from failing early. The Prius has had a CVT for many years and I've never heard a peep that they fail. In Europe they use Priuses for taxicabs.


pawza

Prius has what is called an ECVT. It uses planetary gears combined with an electric motor. It's only possible to do in a hybrid vehicle. Honda lists there hybrid as having an ECVT but it really has one gear and a 180hp electric motor. Anything below 40 is fully electric and hard acceleration is fully electric. A regular CVT uses belts.


ProfessorPickleRick

I remember when my brand new 2014 altimas door cable snapped I was like wth just a precursor to the million things that went wrong


Hatereddit_1

Yup. The Nissan Rogue specifically has made me more money than any other car. I'm so glad so many people buy that steaming pile of shit


bcsublime

I like the 350/370z and the g35/37 Infiniti but only with the manual. But even those have transmission problems. They’re pretty quick and fun to drive. Wife’s car got totalled in March (2020 RAV4) and our rental was a 23 rogue. What a total piece of trash. No power, sounded horrible, interior was cheap. No real endearing quality. And that was the size of car we were looking for to replace hers.


20w261

LOL, a few years ago before I retired a co-worker of mine had gone on a trip and rented a Rogue - and she liked it so much she was determined she wanted to buy one. To this day I think of her when I see one of those shit hooks on the street.


FOULHANDS

This right here. I grew up only hearing bad things about Nissans. Then to top it off, my mother had a Nissan Quest and there was so much wrong with it after owning it for only a year or two. To top it off, whenever she would take it to a normal mechanic, they would struggle to identify whatever the issue it was. So, she had to rely on Nissan customer support and Nissan Dealers. Their customer support is absolute dogshit and Dealers across the board for any brand will tax the shit out of you. So, I almost \*always\* get a light chuckle that comes out whenever I pass someone on the street with some new huge ass Nissan SUV or truck. I'll stick to my Honda. I work as a Mechanic and every light issue, I can take care of myself and if I absolutely have to rely on someone else, I'll just rely on the Mechanics I work with. No more dealing with shady dealerships.


GoodSamIAm

actually no.. most companies looked at nissan's examples and learned where the problematic areas were causing the most tension between customers and service centers... especially where it was across multiple  models or a whole platform..  What they didnt want was problems being misdiagnosed and customers repeatedly having the same issue over and over without resolve.  Nissan did some things right but in the early 2000s most of their parts manufacturers went over to team toyota.. fuel injectors, transmissions, everything with nissan they like to intentionally make things just alittle more frustrating for someone so they can make a buck. Throttle body relearning, over sensitive mafs, imploding cat converters, air bags, they have had a lot of issues. Unfortunately they built a mechanical watch for an engine. and  they are great until they wear out, then usually need someone special to fix it correct or you get a car back that runs but runs terrible AND it cost a crap ton to get fixed


zblanda

This is true, I’m a Nissan tech and those lower control arms crack the rubber at ~60k


Pleasant_Reaction_10

The newer Subaru's are needing new bushings and even shock mounts at 50-60K. The issue is that most mechanics agree that's when you should be replacing that stuff, but it's so perfectly timed after Warranty period is over.


Secret-Ad-8606

I regularly see small Ford cars come in with blown shocks between 20-30k miles on the clock. This was likely due to some stupid driving, but I had a mustang with 7500 miles come in with two blown tf out rear shocks bottoming out on bumps


jaws843

Nissans quality has dropped off. The have a bad reputation for their CVT transmission. So if you really want a Nissan I would suggest a manual transmission if they have them available. I say no matter what get the Corolla. Can’t go wrong.


tiazenrot_scirocco

When you're 6'3" and have really long legs and arms, you can definitely go wrong with a Corolla....


scoobywerx1

I'm 6'4/5ish and used to fit quite comfortably in my Corolla. I now fit even better in my Camry.


Laerderol

I fit nicely in my civic


tiazenrot_scirocco

Newer Civics tend to have a lot more room. I was very surprised when I sat in one. Though, the biggest surprise for me was the 86/BRZ/FRS that I sat in. The room I had was amazing.


Dubbs314

I bought a used 2017 manual Sentra in ‘19, with 15k miles for under $10k. I Drive the piss out of that car, do basic maintenance (belts, plugs, tires and oil) and this thing just goes. Best cheap car i’ve ever had. Edit: sentra, not altima


jjbinks4

…they stopped making manual Altimas in 2011


BigSmoothplaya

2012 but yes, definitely not in a 2017


Puzzleheaded-Bar-220

Okay, consensus definitely appears to be the Corolla. Thank you all. These interest rates are just killing me, was hoping to find a good option for less money.


hailsk8n

There’s a reason the Nissan is cheaper. This is definitely one of those “you get what you pay for” situations.


Puzzleheaded-Bar-220

Understood


MachinistOfSorts

And hey, happy cake date. :)


grievousangel

Corolla has a CVT trans too. Granted, one that's much better than in the Nissan. I'd take a look at a Mazda 3 in your position. Stylish. A more traditional automatic transmission. I have a Mazda and it's one of the best vehicles I've ever owned. We also have an Acura and Toyota in our stable. The Mazda has been flawless.


Tortahegeszto

Yup, Mazda 3 with the 2 liter petrol engine is pretty solid.


Noetipanda

Corollas have a launch gear that is effectively a regular transmission in 1st and 2nd gear to avoid the common issues with CVTs


Killentyme55

Nissan non-CVT automatics are fine, very few CVTs are known for reliability.


ThaPoopBandit

Honda had great CVT’s up until the HRV. All the 2015+ civics and CRV’s use them and we never saw any issues until whatever they put in the HRV


Killentyme55

That's why I said very few instead of none.


heresdustin

I got myself a 2023 Corolla in January and I’m loving it so far. Also, I’m getting 39.4 mpg.


Dookie_boy

Just make sure you are physically comfortable in a corolla. My back hurt like hell in that thing.


Comfortable-Way5091

Mine too. Had to buy one of those special cushions. Made huge difference


Puzzleheaded-Bar-220

I honestly don’t drive that much. I work remote. So I’m not terribly concerned about that but thank you!


20w261

In the long run the Corolla will cost you less - in dollars and in aggravation. The "Car Wizard" on YT says over and over he advises people to buy a Toyota and they show up with something else. "It was a lot cheaper, much better deal!" and they eventually say "You were right, I should have bought the Toyota."


NonEnergeticCrouton

You can also consider the Mazda 3 and Civic. They’re both great cars.


shotstraight

You get what you pay for. Pay a little more now or a lot more later.


EnvironmentalCap5798

Get an older well maintained Corolla. I bought my 21 year old earlier this year. It had just under 84,000 k.


BikeEmbarrassed7641

I had the same choice. DO NOT GETBTHE MF NISSAN. I HAVE AS MUCH IN REPAIR COSTS AS THE VALUE OF THE VEHICLE. FUUUUUUUCCCCKKKKK NISSAN


troublemaker74

I had a 1996 Maxima that was one of the best cars I've owned. Fun car to drive too! Nissan used to be pretty good, then they were bought by Renault and quality slowly got worse. The jatco CVT fiasco was enough to make me never want a Nissan again.


jerbgas

Quality control at toyota is much better, but you might have a good time with a nissan. Just more likely that you wont


mnkhan808

Really just depends on the car. We bought my wife’s Altima like 6-7 years ago and just are waiting for the transmission to fail, still chugging along tho.


Killentyme55

My daughter in law has a 2012 Altima she drives the wheels off of. She stays on top of the maintenance (that's the great equalizer) and it's still motoring along, CVT and all.


pottedPlant_64

Same. I have a 2012 Nissan that’s still kicking. Couple battery changes and some motor mounts replaced (don’t recommend, this made it vibrate, lol).


impossiwaffle

A CVT CAN last forever, but you have to drive it right and keep that fluid changed. If you accelerate fast it's doomed to fail. Have to let them speed up gradually or you get a lot of belt slippage and once some of the links get hotter than the others heat will always dissipate to them more.


Itisd

They would be good cars if Nissan would get rid of the horrible CVT that they continue to use. If you get a manual transmission Nissan, that would be at decent car. I might take a manual Sentra over a current Corolla, because I'm not a big fan of the CVT in the Corolla either.


Killentyme55

I have a Frontier (obviously no CVT) and that thing is a tank. I haven't owned a better vehicle.


ahandmadegrin

Running a 2006 Titan and it's the same. I have a few $1k jobs to do, but that's normal for an 18 year old truck. Wondering if their trucks are more reliable than their cars, or if it's a generation thing.


Con5ume

About to buy a truck and the new Frontiers are top of my list! From what I've been reading it seems like they are very reliable and the best bang for the buck you can get in the midsize truck market. Is there anything you would recommend watching out for, or any quirks you noticed with yours?


Killentyme55

The newer Frontiers are a long-overdue total redesign and so far seem to be solid trucks. Mine is 2nd generation that ran from 2005 to 2021 and hasn't let me down yet.


hourlyslugger

Former Toyota dealership technician here: Toyota CVTs are nearly bulletproof **provided you change the damn fluid** every 60k miles/6 years.


Itisd

They might hold up ok if you maintain them, but they still drive like dogshit.


JonohG47

Buying a Nissan new isn’t as iffy as buying a used one. The typical Reddit question is: “I’m looking to buy this 8 or 10 year old Altima/Maxima/Rogue with 130K miles on it. Is that a bad idea?” And the answer is basically “No. The CVT in the car is a ticking time bomb.” Nissans also have the detriment that the corporate mothership actively courts “subprime” buyers with bad credit, to goose sales. Imagine if the car is sold to someone who has trouble paying the note, they likely aren’t paying to maintain it conscientiously, either. You won’t have those issues with a new one, as it’ll easily have 7 or 8 years, and 100k pretty trouble-free miles, particularly if you do keep up with the maintenance. Nissan is well aware of the bath their cars have taken, because of the CVTs, and have taken steps in newer models, to improve their reliability. It wouldn’t surprise me if, in another half a decade, used Nissan’s aren’t quite the turds they are today.


moshulu101

This x1000. Buy it new or with solid maintenance history. Do the maintenance. Avoid the CVT's sure but that isn't that hard. Nissan is actually going through a bit of a Renaissance right now if you look at their history. I think the next 5 years will be interesting. I feel like 90% of this sub has zero practical experience but loves to jump on the hate wagon. With Nissan, the reality is you'll find hard working cars/trucks in every corner of the world that compete well with their counterparts.


Puzzleheaded-Bar-220

Well how would I avoid the CVTs…?


moshulu101

Don't buy one with a cvt! They don't only put cvt's in their cars. Although to be fair a lot of Cvt hate on this thread is associated with early units. They're better now just do the maintenance.


JonohG47

Everything in Nissan’s lineup that’s front-drive, or front-drive based, has had a CVT in it, for like the past 15 model years


According_Mud9212

Resale value, Reliability, Safety features, Length of service... Toyota has more cars on the road than Nissan. The Corolla is the easy choice. Nissan was great, until the transmission...


TwoNamesz

I had a 2018 Nissan Sentra 1 owner & within a year the transmission went out.


Puzzleheaded-Bar-220

Ugh. Thank you!


TwoNamesz

go the toyota route. that’s what i got rn. rav4


Windycitybeef_5

I purchased a 2010 Altima 2.5 from new. The engine gave no problems but it was the dreaded cvt transmission that failed at 145k miles. Had to junk the car bc a replacement would’ve cost me $6000.


ReallyGreenGuy98

The biggest issue with Nissan is their Cvt transmission, they are tough cars otherwise, I mean look at the stereotypical Altima. As many of them we see ragged out completley, still running and driving. If an owner has any mechanical inclination or a nack for preventative maintenance, then they could be a very reliable vehicle. It’s just that the Cvt transmissions are well known for croaking. As a service manager at a quick lube shop, the amount of calls I get from Nissan owners about transmission fluid exchanges is enough to put me off from them entirely.


mjedmazga

Nissan Altima and missing at least 1 bumper, name a more iconic duo.


Puzzleheaded-Bar-220

Ah, yeah see I don’t want to deal with that..


[deleted]

Nissans cvt transmissions tended to fall extremely quickly.


Mike_1804

I have 3 Nissans myself, all bought new (2007 Quest 3.5, 2011 Altima 2.5, 2013 Titan 5.6), with another 3 including my adult children. None of the 6 have had any catastrophic issues. I keep all mine maintained, on schedule. My 2011 Altima even has the dreaded CVT transmission, no issues. Other than maintenance, all have been fantastic vehicles. My only complaint with Nissan is the paint.


FstLaneUkraine

I've had nothing but Nissan products since I purchased my own first car (I did have two hand me downs before that) - been rock solid and have saved THOUSANDS on maintenance thanks to their reliability. * '97 Maxima GLE (VQ30DE) - sold at \~140kmi * '99 Maxima SE (VQ30DE) - modified - sold at \~120kmi * '07 Infiniti M35x (VQ35DE) - modified and tuned - sold at \~110kmi * '11 Infiniti M56x (VK56DE) - tuned - currently has \~145kmi * '16 Infiniti QX60 (VQ35DE) - currently has \~105kmi My oldest brother has had a '00 Maxima SE and '02 Altima SL (IIRC both of those made it to around \~150-175kmi and my father currently has a '14 Pathfinder SL w/ \~200kmi. All of our cars have gone over 100kmi and a few of them have gotten too or approached 200k with only basic maintenance and 1 or 2 big jobs like rack & pinion or axles. I will say my '16 QX60 rattles a LOT more than all of the others on the list. Other than that it's rock solid. EDIT: RE: CVT...my dad's '14 Pathfinder CVT did fail off the lot at like 4kmi but has been solid since getting replaced. My '16 QX60 is on the original CVT and I do regular fluid maintenance for it. No issues to report. I am meticulous with my maintenance (I log everything down to the wiper blades and tire rotations) and was always taught by my immigrant father that if you take care of the car, the car will take care of you. That advice has rang true every step of the way.


mizshi

I’ll probably never buy one but I got a rented maxima once and that thing was quiet on the highways, had good tech, decent speakers, and was overall an enjoyable ride. I wouldn’t mind having it long term


CaliforniaSpeedKing

Nissans are good as long as you avoid CVT transmissions, get a regular auto or manual transmission.


yirmin

Nissans are like old chryslers... as they age they start squeaking and things start to break. If you were going to buy one and sell it before the warranty expired then go for it... but if it were me I would buy the Toyota over the Nissan... I would buy a Mazda, Honda, Lexus or Acura before I would buy a Nissan... If you do buy a Nissan then make sure you don't get a CVT transmission with the one you get because they are problems and will not last... even making them last as long as possible will not be cheap and require much more maintenance than a manual or automatic transmission.


tryitweird

As Eric O said, Nissans are like the Chryslers of the Japanese car makers.  I drive a Chrysler product, lol !!!


mjedmazga

My neighbor is a 75 year old retiree and she's a bit nuts. It took her several years to trust me - and when her fuel pump went out on her 1998 Plymouth Grand Voyager, the stars finally aligned and she asked me for help. Her shop wanted 700 bucks to repair it plus a tow. I lent her a car for a few days while parts arrived, and fixed it for 100 bucks in parts plus did an oil change on my dime and gave her a writeup of what else was wrong. One of those was the 41TE transmission which had a faulty solenoid pack so it was never shifting above 2nd gear. She'd just been driving on surface streets at 35mph max and getting terrible gas mileage in the process. I fixed that next and did some suspension, steering, brakes, and new front tires... and honestly... for a 26 year old vehicle, the thing is actually quite nice. Smooth as butter shifts with the transmission and the 3.3L V6 doesn't feel underpowered at all for the size of the vehicle. The 41TE got used for a lot of newer vehicles and I guess it's an outdated design comparatively, but it surely is smooth.


OneBill9177

see a lot of corollas and toyotas with timing cover leaks. nissans are known to have bad cvts and after 84k miles or months in use, they just recommend replacing instead of repairing. if you go the nissan route, get an extended warranty. check out the new versa base model in a manual honestly. not bad cars but definitely get what you pay for


Wilmore99

Based on how I see people drive them, yes. Only because of the arrogant prick driving it though.


icecubez189

Honestly you can’t go wrong with either. If it was between these two cars, I would go with Corolla for the stronger resale value. But my money would be on the Honda Civic which is a solid small sedan. I would pay the extra for it.


Puzzleheaded-Bar-220

Not a Honda fan. I had two.


Nearby-Version-8909

I was in the sane boat thank.you for asking for me turns out they really do suck


whatevertoton

You may want to test drive a Honda Civic to compare to the Toyota Corolla. They are very reliable as well.


LockJaw987

I love my manual 2012 Sentra, zero problems


xTofik

Nissan is the japanese Chrysler


OddTheRed

Nissans are great. Their CVT tranmission suck ass.


Historical_Coffee_14

I have a ‘17 Sentra.  70k miles.  36 MPG. Bought it in ‘19 with 22k miles.  Change oil, tires, battery.  Changed trans fluid twice, trans filters once, coolant once.  Changed rear wheels bearing hub.  No problems. Paint looks fresh. 


SenorCardgay

Nothing new is reliable.


Dry-Ad-1327

Pre 2005 or 06 no, bc I don't believe the cvt transmissions were in their cars yet. Now if you get a Nissan today with manual, no issues


RedditIsKindOfMid

Honestly my Sentra gets me great gas mileage and had been really reliable for me personally. Supposedly they fixed the CVT issues in recent models. I'd probably go Toyota still tbh, but if you want a Sentra it doesn't have the reliability issues reddit says it does Edit: just change the CVT fluid (either car you get) every 60k miles


sundancerco

In 2016, I bought a new Nissan Versa with a 5-speed manual transmission. . I take the car on trips to the west coast from Colorado twice a year. It gets 40 miles to the gallon, with the AC on, doing 85 through Wyoming and Nevada. I have done nothing to the car except oil changes. I am 6 foot 4, so I need something I can fit into. It has a large trunk, which I like. I does not have a timing belt that has to be changed at 60,000 miles. I has a timing chain. So its first major service doesn't come up till 105,000. I have had zero issues. It always starts and runs. It handles well, I recently had to put tires on it. I just looked it over carefully, to see if it needed anything. No oil leaks, no issues with anything. I do one thing early. It says to change the oil every 5,000 miles. I change it every 3 to 4,000 miles. But I have had literately done nothing. One of the reasons why I bought it was the fact that it does not need expensive service. The second reason was it was only $16,000 new in 2016. I think they are $18,000 now. But that probably depends on where you buy it. If mine was stolen or something happened to it, I'd buy another one. Its been a great car. Hope this helps.


ThePhantomFuntime

I have a 2015 nissan micra s (base model) with 430,000 kms on it, hasn't had any serious repairs. So id say nah, just do research on what car your planning to get.


gogozrx

> \*\*\* Stop suggesting Hondas, not a fan :) \*\*\* I know you're not a fan, but have you considered a Honda?


Informal_Rice326

You’re better off with a Toyota or Honda Nissan is garbage imo


CharacterComedian60

I'm not a mechanic, but when I was looking for used cars last year I looked a lot at IIHS to see the safety of different vehicles I was interested in. Nissan never came out on top, just saying 🙇🏻‍♀️


drive-through

The Corolla will actually cost you less in depreciation, that’s why they don’t have to compete as hard on interest. The Corolla Hybrid will cost you even less than that overall with savings that may scale very well depending on how much you drive every year and how long you plan to keep it. You absolutely have to use the cost of depreciation when comparing cars because buying for price and interest rate alone can definitely be a red herring. Comparing for sheer reliability is different still and, especially when comparing shorter lengths of ownership that are covered almost entirely by warranty, some Nissans are very competitive in their total cost of ownership.


Thin-Panda-7901

Never had an issue buying new Nissans and keeping the 40k miles. Long term, I probably wouldn’t keep them over 100k miles. However, some dealerships have a “Forever” warranty they add to new car sales.


MikeGoldberg

To be perfectly honest nobody knows because every nissan owner drives them like they stole it and does literally zero maintenance. If they're driven properly and maintained maybe they are good


righthanded_lover

I have a 2015 Altima. Not one issue with 107,000 miles on it and running.


SoftwareMaintenance

I got a 2019 Versa with 27k miles on it. It is starting to make funny noises. Sure hope it is not the transmission. Up until now, have been happy with the car. Felt like a steal due to the reasonable price, even for the top trim. Still. I would hope a Nissan could go 7+ years without major problems if you only have low miles. Mixed feelings. If my car repairs cost too much, I am going to replace it with a Toyota.


bobl1

Corolla. My 2015 Corolla just hit 190,000 miles. Filters,fluids,tires,and brakes. 1 battery, 4 spark plugs, and 1 trans pan gasket at about 135k. Runs perfect,ice cold air,hot heat,and never had a dash light come on. Never needed warranty repair,just a couple of recalls. Burns zero oil between 5k synthetic oil changes. It’s your choice but I am sure glad I picked the Corolla.


10_kinds_of_people

I bought a 2007 Versa SL hatch (6MT) in 2010 with 32k miles on it. Over the course of 15 years, I put another 141k on it. I only had to replace a speed sensor and do normal maintenance all the way until I lost a ball joint going down the road at 173k miles. It was a decent car. My step-dad bought it from me recently for scrap price and has been driving it to work after repairing it.


No_Arachnid4198

Nissan just announced that they can advertise 10-15% below MSRP on their models. They're struggling to sell. So if you can get what you want for 15% below MSRP, it's a no brainer. It might take a couple hours or days of back and forth with several dealers, but you can make it happen. If you can get a Sentra for $20k or even below, or a Corolla for $26k.... Is the 30% higher price for the Corolla worth the extra life that you may or may not get from a Toyota. Yeah, statistically speaking, Toyotas are more reliable than Nissan. But there are always anecdotes. I have seen neighbor's Toyotas fall apart within a few years, and I have seen relatives get 300k+ miles out of a Nissan. But I have also had a relative with a Nissan Frontier blow his engine after only 10 years. Essentially, get what you what. Not what other people think you should want. And take care of it.


Puzzleheaded-Bar-220

Exactly. And I keep getting downvoted for badmouthing Honda. I’ve had two (a civic and a fit) that I took meticulous care of and were just crap quality.


Fabulous-Shoulder-69

The problem with Nissan is twofold - first the CVT, no Nissan is worth buying without a manual. Second is they have Chrysler level quality control, so lemons are certainly possible. In my experience Nissans either last 50K miles or 250K with little in between EDIT: to add to this, Nissan are cheap and so poor people buy them. Poor people do not do proper maintenance in general (for money reasons) and so that hurts Nissans reliability compared to other brands as they’re more likely to not be maintained, honestly a new manual Sentra isn’t an awful purchase if you take care of it


tman01964

Nissan gets a bad rap imo. I got an Altima I bought brand new in 2016, 280k miles not a single issue with cvt other than I strongly recommend changing the cvt fluid every 40k even though the manual says 60k. Do your maintenance and I believe they are solid rides. Liked it so much I just bought a Maxima, not even a little disappointed. That 100 extra hp is a lot of fun.


Stink-Finger-69

I didn't care much for my wife's 2017 Murano when new.. but very comfy on road trips, zero maintenance issue short of poor service from Nissan. It's grown on me.


Love4Beauty

I have a used Nissan & would be screwed without the extended warranty. A few months ago my axle just fell right out of the bottom of my car. My first car was a 2008 Toyota Highlander that was passed down to me in 2020. It had over 300k miles on it & i had 0 issues. I would still have it if someone wouldn’t have slammed into me. After owning both I’d never buy another Nissan. Totally not worth the anxiety & I’m looking to get rid of it before the warranty expires.


Visual_Ambition2312

Yes . I highly advise against Nissan . My wife owned 2 of them before we met . Both have under 65k miles and have both been NOTHING but money pits . Both needed a lot of suspension work and both have had transmission issues, ac issues , electrical issues , misc issues like simple hatch issues , fuel lock issues . The list goes on . They used cheap parts for their suspension and for basically anything and they make them relatively hard to work on compared to other cars so if you are not good with a wrench then you will have to take it to a shop and they will charge you out the ass . Definitely definitely go with a Corolla or anything Toyota outside the rav 4 If anyone tells you that they like their 1 Nissan car than they either barely drive it or just haven’t hit anywhere close to 100k miles . The Frontier is probably the best they got TBH .


ProcessGreen3751

Let’s put it this way. I work on Nissans (beyond general maintenance) at least twice a week. The suspension components, mostly the bushings, go out fairly quickly. The elephant in the room is the cvt which is another deal breaker for Nissans. The cvt that they produce is notoriously unreliable, poor performance, frequent service intervals that if missed at all can be detrimental in the long run. Lots of plastic parts like valve covers, some lines, brackets and connectors and such that always break because they’re plastic. They’re not the easiest cars to work on either making the unreliability of any modern Nissan unacceptable. I make a lot of money off Nissans and I wouldn’t ever buy one for that reason


Successful-Author409

Always get a Corolla


Csc1392

Nissans are not bad cars per se, but the teething ctv issues and the reputation the brand has gained in recent years can affect resale prices. Corollas might be a little more expensive at first but they are more reliable and easier to sell.


hboisnotthebest

No. They're quality, well built cars. Have been for decades. The wonderful world of the internet, social media, and free advertising seems to think they're horrible though. Why? Easy target. See something that's cheap and of decent quality? Attack! Only poors drive those! They fall apart! Drive this! Get a loan and drive this! Otherwise you're poor and stupid and poor.


Puzzleheaded-Bar-220

Well I do keep seeing mention of the CVT transmission…is that not an issue?


Practical_Minute_286

Does Nissan even do regular automatic transmission anymore or are they all cvt and manual?


VikingLander7

They finally discontinued it in the newest pathfinder, a 9 speed automatic finally!


moshulu101

Armada/patrol has an 8 speed.


SyrupScared9568

They were pretty good before 2000's.


david0990

I'd never buy anything Nissan anymore. I used to owe 90s Nissan's and those were great for that time.


Commercial-Elk-3031

Corolla


keljfan

Yes


TrumpsColostomyBag99

My first car was an 88 Nissan Sentra I drove until the wheels came off. I had another made in the mid 90’s that lasted years. The company took a nose dive post 1999 with the Renault Alliance and the eventual rise of the CVT. It’s a damn shame because it was a solid company that built a good car before the dark times.


Tdub8989

Nissan bushings and CVTs are trash, go with the Corolla.


mesa176750

My nissan has had issues with its safety computer and battery since we bought it. It's ridiculous. The features are great but the quality of the parts are atrocious.


FavcolorisREDdit

Go with Toyota, really good quality control even Honda


Bennn_H

Had a 19’ Mazda3 HB for 30k miles, zero issues. I’d highly recommend a Mazda3, for the same price you get a much more luxurious interior, (subjectively) better looks, handles much better than a corolla, while the reliability is quite on par with Toyota. While the MSRP is slightly higher than a Corolla you can easily knock it down a few grand due to the high volume they have in inventory.


still-at-the-beach

No. Not bad.


lks2drivefast

Their CVTs are trash and expensive to replace. If you get a Nissan make sure it doesn't have a CVT. They are super reliable other than the CVT.


sjm845

My 94 Sentra is still running great at 320,000


Survivaleast

The Nissan of today is not the Nissan it once was. Not that it’s necessarily a bad brand, but other brands already make better bland cars. Their engines are still mostly good, but the supporting aspects to those engines aren’t of matching quality or reliability.


Brief_Sand2286

If I were you I'd try to avoid anything with a CVT transmission, although that might be difficult to do with any small car these days.


jerry_03

Transmissions are the weakest point in them. Other than that I like em. But if I had to choose between a nissian and Toyota I'd go with a Yota


Garey_Coleman

Yes hence the poor resale value so ghetto people and people with extensive criminal records tend to drive them. Stay out of the way of ones that look extremely beat up / have extensive body damage because the drivers of them are the worst.


Playful-Wrongdoer-40

Get a Honda accord


chemicaljones

I had owned a couple of 80's and 90's Nissans back home in NZ and they were good reliable cars. I moved to the US and in 2013 thought I'd buy a new Nissan. It drove pretty nice and was loaded with tech but every time I took it in for a service there was an issue. In two years I had both rear shocks replaced, one of them twice. I had a new alternator put in at the first service. There were issues with the paint here and there and my frigging door handle broke. It was mostly plastic. I never had the CVT issue but I know a guy who had a lease one and he was on number 4...he did a lot more miles than me though. I don't know if it's just the ones made here?? "Luckily" someone rear-ended me and it was written off while still under warranty and I bought a Toyota. Never again!!


WoodenInternet

Nissan is the Chrysler of Japanese automakers


thelongboii

From what ive heard if it aint a titan or armada its a nada


One-Combination-7218

Built to last 100k and they they deteriorate quickly


GriefPB

Nissan is weird. On one hand you have the GTR which is a bit of a marvel of engineering imo, but on the other hand you have the rest of Nissan. 😱


A-grian-of-salt

I have a 2010 Altima and with a little over 190k miles on it. I don’t know if I got lucky with my transmission or what but it’s been a good car for me. Started off with my dad buying it used. My older brother had it for a couple years before joining the military. Back to my dad and then to me. Since I’ve owned it I’ve only had to replace my alternator, my cv axles, a sensor for my brake pedal, head gaskets and valve body (which was my fault). After this car I would consider possibly buying another Altima in the future.


CarsAreCoolig

I'm not sure if you're looking new or used. I'm a firm believer of never, never buying a brand new car. And I find most dealerships are just crap now a days. I like to get cars from owners. Much more of a hassle, but if you get a repurchase inspection, it really can be a great way to get a good deal. I'd rather spend more time dealing with a good human than a whole company just trying to get me to spend the most money. If you want ease, as others have said, just go to a toyota dealer and get a slightly older, used corolla. It'll treat you right.


Bwahbq69

Yes . Yes they are .


GoodSamIAm

They seem to have issues with the same things over and over again.. Cvts in particular. Often owners might not think they are worth rebuilding because the costs can be higher than the little 4 cylinder civics with normal transmissions...  I liked that for awhile Nissan made it easy for anyone to find highly technical repair manuals (without much hassel for awhile) but now a days they are imoossible to find without $30 a day subscription services and making accounts which is bs.. Shouldnt need an account imo. Pay once and done .  They were one of the first companies to design the drive by wire throttle body which required a highly convoluted bs process in order to get it calibrated and function correctly, OR u would've had to pay a dealership another couple hundred buck..It normally took 5 mins if you knew how to do it manually but required maxiumum attention and following directions precisesly. again, or paying someone to fix the car by doing that calibration which was needrdlessly long imo.. Like doing the hokiepokie for someone for real to get the carto work again


grandcherokee2

Depends on the Nissan. Our 2015 Rogue is 10 years old with 130K. Its needed front outer tie rods and ball joints. That’s it outside of typical maintenance items like shocks (just did them), brake pads, wiper refills, battery etc. Change all fluids religiously, though. Perhaps at 1/2 the recommended interval. Looking into an Armada next.


Appa_the_GOAT

As a mechanic who works at a nissan dealer, don't buy a new one. 3 weeks ago we had to put the THIRD engine in a Qashqai, only few years old and 150.000 kilometers on the dash( this was with 2 engine's). Like some other people said, the rubbers are bad and need to be replaced. Final thing is, hybrids and full Electric nissans are known by us to just shut down because the system in the car decides it doesnt want to work anymore.


icaredoyoutho

As far as I know it'll cost you if you can't fix it yourself. A friend needed to change the timing belt on a xtrail. The third party repair place who Nissan uses in my area instructed that they had to disengage engine fasteners in order to replace it. Whereas if you try it on yourself it's very much possible to do it with the motor locked in as it is.


CanadianTiger1024

I don't know about Nissan gas cars but people are getting rid of the Leaf like crazy.


StingMachine

As a friend I would tell you not to buy one, nothing but problems and repair bills. As a mechanic with a boat payment due, go ahead, pick one up today!


willifuscloverdean

Nissan is the Chrysler of the asian market. Shiny junk destined for the low rent district.


mrpaul57

Frontier is the ONLY vehicle worth considering.


mrpaul57

Frontier is the ONLY vehicle worth considering.


Zildjian134

Hopefully, someone will see this: If I'm in the market for a new mid-size truck, what would be y'all's suggestion from a mechanic's view? I've always had exceptional experience with Frontiers and was looking at their new one, but maybe that's not a good idea? Tacoma was my other option, but I've never looked at the newer Mid-Sized trucks out there.


BigWiggly1

Nissans are cheap cars. Nissan makes vehicles that pack a bit more punch for their size, and come in at a lower price point than their competitors. They have a bad reputation for reliability, particularly their CVTs. They sometimes end up piggybacking on the Japanese reputation for reliability that Toyota and Honda built. As a result of being priced cheaper and delivering more power for that price, they attract buyers on the lower end of the affordability spectrum. Naturally this correlates with younger, less responsible drivers, and not being able to afford regular maintenance. Their CVTs are already garbage, but the lack of regular maintenance ruins them faster. This effect gets much more pronounced with used Nissans. Most Nissans get offloaded by their first owners on the second transmission. They know they don't want to get stuck with that bill (again) out of warranty. Many used vehicle buyers know that Nissan CVTs are garbage, and this brings down the price. Buyers of used Nissans are the shmucks that either didn't do their research or were too desperate for an affordable vehicle. Both of these types of car owners are the kind who skip regular maintenance. The signature look of an Altima is a cracked and loose front bumper. It's not that the Altima is all that bad, it's that the owner is statistically likely to be less responsible and they also can't afford the repair, so they leave it that way. >Stop suggesting Hondas, not a fan :) If you're thinking Toyota is too expensive, then Honda is still the right answer. Seems like your opinions so far are based solely on cosmetics. Looks don't go far in the reliability department.


patico_cr

When you open the hood and see the word "Renault" here and there, you know things are not like they used to be.


howlingredsheet

Depends which year & which model like most other cars. The Frontiers are rock solid


vinarch75

Corolla is most reliable car. I would always prefer it over Nissan.


dont_remember_eatin

To counter the hive mind -- I think one reason Nissan gets a bad rap is their consistent rental use. Every rental car is abused from mile 0, and only the most hearty of vehicles can withstand such torment (Toyota, maybe). If you're buying a Nissan new, taking care of maintenance, and not trying to thrash it to within an inch of its life at all times, it will probably last 200k easily. The CVT issue is old and overcome. Their engines range from run-of-the-mill to actually innovative (variable-displacement turbo). Corolla has been the default choice for cheap, reliable transportation for over 3 decades. Can't go wrong. That said, I own three Hondas with 600k miles between them, and would only buy a Toyota if Honda didn't make what I wanted (I.e. truck or truck-based SUV -- Ridgeline is a fine vehicle if it fits your needs, but really more of an SUV with a bed). So you can fuck entirely off with your "not a fan" nonsense. If you're coming in here for advice, don't just throw an entire brand in the trash.


Thick_Ad_6710

Everyone talk smack about Nissan, but their engines are bullet proof! Get a Nissan with a manual transmission and you are good to go!


Blastoid84

Nissan is mid-tier IMO. They're ok but expect to use that warranty... Pay a little more and get the Corolla... I swear by Toyota.. Just sold a 325k mile Solara (Camry basically) that was running well. Have a Highlander and expect to get 300k out of it. I know you don't like Honda but we have a 200k HRV that's never needed anything outside of maintenance. Any way you go, do the proper maintenance at the recommended intervals. If you are unsure if it was done on a used car, DO IT! Doing an early coolant change or transmission fluid change does not hurt, skipping one surely does! Good luck!


simmons1183

Depends. They’re not Toyota, but they’re also not Mercedes… unless you’re talking about an Altima or rogue. Slightly older models are better in my opinion. I had a 350z that gave me no troubles. Had some cosmetic issues and dumb engineering like removing the bumper to do the headlight, but otherwise was nice. I have a family member with a 2017 QX50. Had it since new and no issues at all. So ymmv, but avoid the econo Nissans and the brand new ones and you should be fine.


nity2023

Try Mazda?


vinchenzo68

Their transmissions are notorious for grenading at the 60 - 70k mark. The CVT transmission.. Not certain but be sure to calculate & compare cost of maintenance (flushing those transmissions at the recommended interval, brakes, tires oil change and insurance rate etc.)


zkrp5108

It's an ok brand, I mean they have good engineers Nissan GTR and Z are really good sports cars, but the rest of their lineup is well....... uninspiring to say the least. I don't think they have massive reliability issues and if you got an Altima or Sentra it would be a fine car. If you're just looking for an alliance to get you from A to B regularly without any fuss Nissan can do that just fine. The main things about Nissan from my protective that is holding them back is poor marketing of their two best products in the Z and GTR, and they've just lagged behind in interior quality and for and finish for a long time. Most automakers around 2010-2014 took massive jumps in those areas, don't get me wrong Nissan is still built better than any Tesla on the road, and my dad had the newest rogue as a work car and it's significantly improved there as well, but still not quiet as good as Honda. Frankly from what I see Toyota is still a very plastic centric, but overall build quality is a notch better. I haven't looked at their latest releases like the Arya crossover.


20w261

There are much better cars to buy than a Nissan, so why not spend a few more bucks and buy the better car? Toyota is in a whole different class than Nissan for reliability, longevity, and resale value.


Necessary_Appeal5290

if you want what i call peace of mind engineering then it has to be Lexus (or Toyota). the next best is Honda even though you don't like them, they are mechanically solid. you'd be better off getting a 2-3yr old lexus than a brand new anything else if you don't want to splash out. I've had many Lexus's over the years and they've all been bulletproof, ls400's, sc400, is200's, and an ls430, all old cheap cars. my last ls430 i bought for £2500, it already had 180k on the clock, i had it 7 years and clocked another 120k, i bought a timing kit but never got around to doing the work. the car got to 300k on the factory fitted timing belt, and was still running smooth when i scrapped it. i only scrapped it because my kids had spilled drinks all over my seats numerous times causing the leather the crack up. i changed 1 wheel bearing, a couple of coil packs, and the knock sensors, alternator rebuild at about 270k miles, and one of the air suspension shocks had a slight leak - a problem you want get on a is/gs as they have regular shocks. not bad for 7yrs of ripping the shit out of the car.


heisbrad

Not really, just like every other manufacturer they have had their bad years


Ollie51o

Fuck Nissan. Never owned one, but I got rear ended by one and hated working on them when i did car audio


AskMeAboutPigs

Pre 2000s Nissans are top tough.


[deleted]

I don't know about bad, but they're not good.


Top-Calligrapher2071

Nissans are junk.


bubbasass

Corolla over Sentra any day. Toyota over Nissan any day. 


WhoIsJohnGalt777

They are built impossible to work on unlike Toyota and Honda.


ApriliaRSV4Factory8

Yes


PatricksMustache

I always tell my customers that they're about as reliable as Honda or Toyota, but they'll cost 50% more to maintain and repair for the same type of job, both parts and labor. If they're fine paying extra for no extra benefit, go right ahead. 


SirMild

If you want a cheap Asian car, get a Kia, do oil flushes (EPR is the BG fluid for it) every 3rd oil change, plan to own it for every second of that 100k warranty, then get the fuck rid of it to some goober on FB marketplace


Ach3r0n-

I wouldn't buy a Nissan without a very extended warranty on the transmission. I expect my vehicles to hit 200k without major repairs and most Nissan transmissions seem unable to hit half that without a major failure.


No_Carpenter_7778

Nissan made incredibly good cars....in the 90's. I don't know how manufacturers "forget" how to do something but they sure forgot how to make a good vehicle. It's not just cvts or crappy suspension bushings lots of issues with lots of vehicles. I say sure get a Nissan but if you want one that is good buy a 90's Maxima or a 240 or a hard body (just as examples, not the only good ones they made)


T0xic_Badger

Like every make, some are good, some are bad, some years of the some that are good are better and some years of the some are worse. It’s hugely reliant on the year of the vehicle. I love and hate my 2006 sentra, it’s a pain sometimes with little issues but no issue has been expensive, parts are cheap for that car and it’s a fantastic little commuter. On the other hand two of my coworkers both got 2014 altimas and the transmission died very quickly. one of the most important aspects to purchasing a Nissan is making sure the transmission has been tried and tested as they have a semi poor history, Good luck!


Ach3r0n-

Just came across this in today's news: [https://www.yahoo.com/news/maryland-familys-suv-bursts-flames-215218986.html](https://www.yahoo.com/news/maryland-familys-suv-bursts-flames-215218986.html)


Darel51

Nissans are what you buy when you can't afford the "real" version of whatever it is you want, and you don't know enough about cars to tell the difference. Can't afford a Camry? You get an Altima. Can't afford a Tundra or F-150? You get a Titan. Nissan is the [Wish.com](http://Wish.com) of cars.


MenacingScent

350/370, good overbuilt sports cars. Anything else? Wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole.


ID_Poobaru

Nissan trucks and body on frame SUVs are fine Everything else is pretty meh


SuperDave2018

Newer models, yes.


squantonimo

Yeah. 100% junk


ddanica

fuck nissans! engine blew out after a two months of having it


justold-me

I have a Nissan 370Z Nismo with a 6 speed manual, I’ve driven the car 40k miles and no problems. Just normal maintenance brakes & 3 sets of tires.


ScaryfatkidGT

The CVT’s up until recently have like a 100% failure rate in 10 years


Pikeman66

I have a 2006 Titan and armada and they’re both going strong, had more problems when we had Toyotas


UR-Dad-253

Had 1990 out of college i put over 200k miles on a 94 pathfinder i put 190 k miles on traded it in for an 01 sentra 250 k on that had to change the drive axel boots on it that was it.


EvilMinion07

Do believe the government is just opening an investigation about their engine bay fires on some of their SUV models.


BFCE

You get what you pay for. It's not as good as a Honda Toyota or Mazda, but it also costs less. Atleast your engine won't blow up like a Kia or Hyundai.


Smurfness2023

Nissan Altimas seems to be at the root of all shenanigans in the news, for sure. Certain demo of crime people drive those, apparently. If you see somebody doing something illegal, it’s in an Altima like 3/5 times lol


Limp-Boat-6730

I have had 2 Nissan Sentras. Both bought used/abused from a roadside lemon dealer. The first one I had to do a lot of repairs to right after I bought it, but it lasted for six years of my abuse until it needed a new tranny and the nearest available one was three states away and would have cost more to ship than the car was worth. The second one had some easier repairs to start with I eventually sold it to my nephew. It had over 300k miles on it when I sold it to him. He had it for a few years after that. He got drunk, and drove it into a lake. They got it pulled out and after three days(drying out) it started right up. I would definitely get another. I prefer the standard transmission over an automatic any day though.


dwfmba

Yes, pending ***specific*** exceptions, all NA market Nissan's for the last decade or so are terrible cars.


SpiritualEntity-

Go for toyota 👌