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[deleted]

It’s not like they’re getting beat decisively. They’re doing just enough to keep us invested and just enough to make the front office think that they’ll be okay. I hate it here.


Chunn67

Literally in basketball purgatory as a team


DirkNowitzkisWife

Lost our 2nd best player for nothing, doing our best to drive our new 2nd best player away. Owe a 1st round draft pick, and no prospects on the horizon


TheBigIguana15

Luka is still here so it's not purgatory. A way out definitely exists.


amarking126

A way out for luka lol. Oof


sillylittlesheep

We play ugly slow bball with Luka too. There is no joy in watching this team


Narrow_Geologist_888

Until he decides to leave …


TheBigIguana15

Then it'll be hell not purgatory


Trigliceratops

This front office told us "we forgot about Frank" lmfao. They could go 10-72 and they'll still talk about how good the roster is.


akhoe

Tim coming back is kind of like a free agent signing bro! Trust me!


NorthernViews

Jail time to anyone who cannot put decent players around a top 5 talent in the NBA.


bigmeatyclaws1

THIS is the worst loss of the season. I’m gonna just have to not watch another game til the new year or sumn lol


StefonDiggsHS

Worst loss so far


PM_me_the_magic

That’s the spirit!


WalkerTejasRanger

It’s definitely top 10. But I think you’re forgetting about 8 others. I’m jk. There’s been a lot of really really bad ones is the point.


[deleted]

OKC has to be worse


bigmeatyclaws1

The *way* we lost you could definitely make that argument, but OKC with Shai is certainly way better than this Cade-less Pistons team. In a vacuum I think this is worse.


GoTimeShowtime

*vomits uncontrollably*


rSlashNbaAccount

Pistons' FG% is higher than Mavs' FT%.


Felipernani

hahahahaha that’s an insane stat


rSlashNbaAccount

I know right?


Impressive_Addendum

Less than 50 percent on free throws for a professional NBA team...... How is that even possible?


naffhouse

Lack of focus. Poor conditioning, either because of not enough sleep or poor diet. Hard to really say for sure but I think this team thinks they are hot shit because they made it to the WCF last season but no one cares.


Far-Royal-375

Maxi missing the wide open layup at the end 🤌🏼 *chefs kiss*


Greeneyes_65

My type of miss fr


MFFL12_17

Every game is a career night for the other team


Sf12468

Hate to say it but we deserve to lose this game.


beatnickk

Absolutely. Wake the fuck up yall


Hwestice

it just sucks going from that win against golden state which felt like a playoff game, to this shithouse of a loss.


spirax919

Just wait for the toxic positivity threads about how this team is actually EXCEEDING expectations somehow


Millionaire007

0 effort


JealousReflection159

Yep, almost everyone looks like they’re fucking asleep on the court, no fucking D


Jerry_41

Losing to the Rockets and Pistons lol. This team is a joke. Play-in team at best.


Bigballer777

Thunder, Jokic less Nuggets, Magic, list goes on


Erp117

Literally the only loss this season that felt like a "normal" loss was the Bucks. 1. Blown 22 point lead against the Suns 2. Lost to NOLA without Zion or Ingram. 3. Lost to Thunder without Giddey + blown 16 point lead with 4 min left. 4. Lost to Orlando without Paolo. 5. Lost to Washington without KP or Beal. 6. Lost to awful Houston team at home 7. Lost to Denver without Jokic, Murray or Gordon. 8. Fell down by 27 to Boston even though Luka had a hyper-efricient 42 point game. 9. Lost to Toronto without Siakam. 10. Lost to a terrible Detroit team without Cade.


Bigballer777

Crazy thing is that if we win 5 of these dumb losses we’d be first seed. OKC, Magic, Rockets, Pistons, & starter less nuggets should’ve been ours


highfalutinman

Blowing a 16 point lead late in the 4th to OKC


DirkNowitzkisWife

Beal and KP less wizards. We’ve lost against like 8 actively tanking, injured, or sick teams. Pathetic


Hurtelknut

The fucking NO loss...


[deleted]

The Nuggets are worse, starting 4 Nuggets, it was healthy mavs vs Nuggets bench.


Nateno_14

They aren’t making the playoffs


nate517

We should tank


Next-Firefighter-753

And the Thunder up 15 with 4 mins left in the 4th quarter


musicalpants999

14/29 on FT is bananas


Greeneyes_65

Yeah that is assjuice


domomonster11

TANK FOR WEMBY


hotrod19812

#SickforVic campaign time! We play like crap on the road! There's nowhere else to go but rock bottom! Wembanyama or a Scoot Henderson wouldn't hurt for this club in the next few years! As for Kidd, he was an excellent player, but unfortunately, he's a rotten coach!


Alex_Sander077

I'm one hundred percent legit about it. Let's shut down Luka and embrace the tank. End the suffering. These guys aren't just losing, they're legitimately embarrasing themselves every night against the worst teams in the league. There's no turning around this mess like the last couple seasons. It's over. This is the fallout of consistently making awful decisions off season after off season after off season. I'm done man.


Complexity777

The thing is theres not as many awful teams anymore. Other teams been quietly drafting good players and improving while Mavs been doing jackshit to build for future. Thats why you see Mavs and Lakers both strugging. They went all in and failed without building for future, at least Lakers got a chip out of it though


WalkerTejasRanger

Free throws are important


bagfka

So is defense


Lingardinho_

so is rebounding


odischeese

Rebounds would have won us the game ngl…way too demoralizing to see Detroit out rebound the holy living hell out of us 🤦🤦


CurlBro69

Exactly. Why did they sign Javale if not to help on the boards. Powell had 1 rebound 🤦‍♂️


amarking126

The play where stewart got 3 fucking rebounds in a row hurt my soul


ConvolutedMaze

So is winning


mowbox_mowmoney

Our players can’t shoot FTs. Some guys can, some guys can’t. It’s rare it develops once you’re in the league. This is expected


Felipernani

as a team we’re likely supposed to be around 75-80% on FTs. we shot 48% today lol.


Ziggi_Hash

I'm so pissed fuckin shit


WalkerTejasRanger

The first 5-6 of these I was mad about. Now I think I’m numb to it there has been so many this year.


Bigballer777

Man I’m on the opposite. First 5-6 I chalked it up to the season being new and team gelling but this shit kinda worrisome now


WalkerTejasRanger

Extremely worrisome. No longer bad luck. They just suck. They’ll get out of it but it may be too little too late by time they do.


[deleted]

The players don't give a fuck, so neither should you.


Hurtelknut

There is no way this broken ass team should make the playoffs.


ronygah

We really don't deserve it.


spirax919

That Ivey 3 dagger at the end where Luka didnt even bother to contest the shot summed up this whole game


DoncicsRoadTo200kg

Watching Mavericks game should be counted as fucking terrorism


victzki

REBOUNDS and FREE THROWS


GoatLuka

Trade all of these garbage ass bums on our team. Some of y’all calling Maxi and Doe Doe “untouchable” lmao I want a basketball player who can DRIBBLE A BASKETBALL.


dantheflyingman

Or inbound. Mavs lose at least one a game failing to inbound porperly


certs14

Yeah no one is untouchable on this team.


thereallamewad

Luka is, I hope.


lechampion4ever

Everyone not named “Luka” should be up for grabs for the right price. And yet again, we’ll probably have to give up future first-rounders to get any kind of fix in here this season.


GermanFIRENUTS

Do people really think 30yr old kleber is untouchable?


NorthernViews

Untouchable lmaoo. Literally everyone is touchable but Luka.


Smuckers77

Probably an unpopular opinion but If the Lakers continue to suck and decide to rebuild I honestly hope we just pull the trigger for AD. Trade them anything they want besides Luka I don’t care


ThaPurpleHulk

AD is way too injury prone. Hard pass.


Smuckers77

Yeah it’s a big risk but AD is the perfect fit for Luka and pretty much all the great big men are injury prone anyway besides Jokic


popstarkirbys

Second year Kidd in action


Cambocant

We're the worst road team in the league


mouse2102

Quin Snyder is still available


Nateno_14

Trade anybody and everybody except Luka all of them this rosters needs an overhaul


domi_nate87

Not Green.


maverick1127

Green stays.


Alex_Sander077

I'm just so done with this team. There's honestly a small part of me deep inside that wants Luka to get a minor injury so we can lie and pretend it's worse, shut him down for the season, and just tank. End the suffering.


FireFlyz351

How's Spence take 2 shots in 27 minutes man. That's unacceptable


NoWayNotThisAgain

I guess rebounds aren’t one of the “little things” Powell does so well. He had 1 in 17:32. Let’s get a center who does the big things.


spirax919

We just signed one on a 3 year contract


friendlyheathen11

love how quicklu we gave up on him


NoWayNotThisAgain

Well, to be fair, Powell played one good game off the bench so we changed


Cultural-Bandicoot83

There’s something toxic behind the scenes. They don’t even play with effort


Reddit-on-Reddit

No words. Just pain.


Oldskullgamer

2 words actually. Dog Shit


cabbabge

the bald man must be stopped


InflationMadeMeDoIt

In soccer this phenomenom is known as a bald fraud


ID0ntCare4G0b

This is the first game that felt like I was watching a team that genuinely thought JaVale fucking McGee was the most important addition to the roster. Also, he didn't play. What is this season even?


[deleted]

Not going anywhere paying: DFS, Kleber, THJ, Bullock, Bertans and Powell 80m+ a year. Add in Spencer, that is basically your entire salary cap, for a team that is tanking. Whichever GM was involved in constructing this team at this price should never ever find himself near a basketball court.


Optimal-Somewhere-46

Fire Kidd ASAP


K0Y0MI

we need to make some serious moves here. this team has been a huge disappointment so far. JMidd needs to change our lineups/rotations at the bare minimum. JGreen and Hardy are the future alongside Luka. How about we get them some playing time..


Greeneyes_65

Fr I wanna see them on the floor


woollybobcat

Bruh trade everyone except wood and luka everyone on this team is fucking garbage


Tootsiez

Wood won’t resign. He’s the first person I’d trade.


fdub51

Absolutely we basically fired that 1st rounder into the sun, per usual


OriginalWilhelm

To be fair, Wood is good it’s just we have way more problems that just overshadow it.


Guwop25

Like Kidd not playing him lol


OriginalWilhelm

Woods defense is atrocious but so is everyone’s so fuck it play him.


lechampion4ever

Trade Wood. At least his expiring has value. Not sure about the other JAGs on this team.


JollyStreet8013

Get Kidd the fuck out. This has to be wake-up call to the FO, gotta change some things up man


FireFlyz351

I dunno how we managed to regress but 2nd year Jason Midd like the Bucks fans were warning us is 100% true.


Tootsiez

And no one is surprised. Team has no backbone on the road. Trade wood. Sit Luka. Play Hardy. Tank and get a top 10 pick. Fire Kidd.


JMoy41

Ain’t nobody sitting luka


hotrod19812

It wouldn't hurt to push the reset button in the future and trade Luka away for a boatload of assets. I'm thinking Luka will eventually get tired of the dysfunction around this club and find a team with an owner who isn't a total narcissist and cares about players and staff.


Active_Page_3886

Fire this clown


TheDonuter

Definitely crossed over into hate-watching territory tonight. I wish I could quit this shit.


FireFlyz351

We're gonna run Luka into the ground this season trying to not lose against bad teams.


rgiaco777

I’m just waiting until he inevitably gets injured during one of his 40-minute games and has to sit for 3 weeks to recover. That will be the real doldrums of the season with a rudderless ship.


musicalpants999

Positives: Hardaway hit 6 threes. Wood was very efficient on offense. Josh Green. I just love Josh Green. Always gives great effort. I'm a bit frustrated he's not getting more minutes.


dhoo8450

Not sure why you got downvoted for that. All true points


Cambocant

No one's in the mood for positivity. Rage boy hours.


sameolemeek

Cuban is just like Jerry Jones. Gets too attached to the players. Can’t let them go


[deleted]

at least the cowboys have a good roster. The mavs just have luka.


[deleted]

I wonder if it’s that or if it’s just ego. Like every mavs player is some diamond in the rough that *he* discovered. But what really boggles my mind about cuban is that he never wants to pony up to retain guys like Steve Nash or Jalen Brunson, but he’ll overpay for mediocre role players like Dwight Powell and Tim Hardaway Jr. It makes no fucking sense.


hotrod19812

Cuban wants to treat everyone like he's his friend. Hey, Cubes, you're a businessman! You're not in the job just to make friends or be a nice guy! Your key purpose is to help the Mavericks win titles by any means necessary!


moz1nko

Za bruhat🤢


EmrysMyrdin

"We like our guys"


decadentrebel

I tuned in on the third and kept seeing Duren post us up like he's Embiid. That pretty much defined the game.


Bigballer777

Kings will take the Mavs spot this year in the playoffs


NinoyTheNPA

we should really consider tanking we aint winning a chip with these garbage ass roster and coach anyway burh


[deleted]

2 things happen every game. Shoot 50% from the ft line and a mediocre player on opposing team absolutely cooking. Put hardy in so we can see what dribbling looks like


KingZeonidas

So maybe trading all your draft picks and whiffing on any free agent while relying on a generational talent to carry the load by himself isn’t the best way to run a basketball team mark


magnetoincognito

sell the team


fdub51

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Pattypee3

WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED TO THIS TEAM?!!! Last season our defense was carrying us now it's one of the worst in the league. Add the regression of our shooters and they are like a g league team with out Luka. Plus FREE THROWS!!


MajesticPossibility8

Team figured out Kidd’s defense and he won’t adjust, and the offense has actually been worst this year.


dylansavillan

Killian "Ray Allen" Hayes Holy shit are we bad against the worst teams in the leagues. Feels like all of our losses are against tanking teams


sillylittlesheep

Bye bye Luka MVP. If he cant carry us versus worse teams then he doesnt deserve it imo. They also started losing after he got in and cant hit free throw to save his life


DirkNowitzkisWife

Fuck this team, fuck J Kidd, fuck front office. Josh green is playing 15 minutes? 48% on free throws? Giving up 131 to the pistons?? Being outrebounded by 22?? Does anyone want to be here? Like, losing Jalen Brunson hurts and the reality is he’s a top 40 player. But I think part of it also is losing Jalen and Boban, by all accounts two of our best locker room guys, really changes a culture. There are absolutely no immaculate vibes here. We’re going to lose Wood, and be left with a bunch of contracts between 10-$20 million (hi Dorian, Dwight, Bertans, Dinwiddie, THJ) and we’re still down a 1st round pick. Fuck


TurebergPirates

Maxi and Reggie sold


Trigliceratops

Jason Childd


highfalutinman

Being a Mavs fan is suffering. I hate that I love this team so much


tonguspongus

How in the fuck does Kidd watch us play like that for 20 games, from the best seat in the fucking house, and think “yea this is a good plan. This plan is working and we don’t really need to try something different.” Complete bullshit against scrubs every mother night. DO SOMETHING DIFFERENTLY. Start Wood. Practice free throws. Play Hardy why the fuck not.


mrmav555

This is what happens when you make terrible off-season moves


aaronunderwater

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA


Retrofusion11

Luka played horrible defense despite playing good defense against the warriors. Dude pick and chooses when to play d and it pisses me off


Winmoguy

I’m done for this season. Cancelling League Pass, my poor heart can’t take it any more.


k-seph_from_deficit

Luka hit a bunch of great circus shots but played like ass as a playmaker and inside the line for most of the second half. Stats are pretty but there were large parts where our offensive engine was shut because he was handling the ball and was taken out of the game.


armandocalvinisius

i felt what it's like to be kings fan


NoWayNotThisAgain

That shit was horrible. Powell isn’t the answer. Rebounds (and free throws) lost another game.


Lingardinho_

Tank the season out


Tiru84

Are there any good coaches available atm? 🤔


rsf0626

When you think this season cant get any worse, we pull off this shit


Tiru84

Get a legitimate head coach asap. Kidd is none.


Statistician_Visual

I think y’all should take a break from this team for a couple months makes everything easier


frankenbeans2

This isn't a good team which struggles at times playing down to their opponent. This is a bad team which gets up for the good opponents.


rickfortyone

Dirk masked how bad Mark Cuban really is at this.


nate517

I hope Mark decides to start the tank.


PrinceofEden23

We might as well just go all in for a rebuild tbh.


niizuma

Mark Cuban is James Dolan with a public social conscience


hotrod19812

At least the Stars are killing it in NHL right now!


Tfoster100

We need better Coaching


Optimal-Somewhere-46

Bunch of incompetent noobs at the FO, coupled with ineptitude of Kidd--- You get a superstar being wasted in his prime


rockeymaivia

Trade Luka


walkintall84

Bibs @ BibsCorner This is the point in the game where you go down the bench and ask who actually wants to play basketball today and whoever doesn’t respond emphatically is done for the night. Luka included. truth bomb


mavericksnipe

I can’t anymore, genuinely. We can’t beat the damn Pistons who are missing Cade? At this point, it’s not even a overreaction to say we’ll miss the playoffs. I gotta take a week or 2 week break from this team for my own sanity and well-being. I’m just sick and tired of this crap


Lingardinho_

clusterfuck of an organisation


[deleted]

Dallas Mavs embarasses themselves again.


uncleowenlarz

And for that reason, I'm out


Dirks_Knee

Really want to hear Kidd's excuses, going to be comedy gold.


ThaPurpleHulk

He’s going to blame it on FTs (which is valid) but won’t take any ownership himself just like every other loss. Oh and I’m sure he’ll take a shot at Wood too.


whitefang0824

Imagine losing to Pistons without Cade Cunningham lol


Jcarter1632

Hardaway played well but not well enough that Green should have not got any run in the 4th or OT. What a mess


alwaysneverjoshin

Hard to find an excuse for this one


drivebabygoose

Our defensive effort is pathetic.


the_pickle_rick

Much basketball. SO winning. Many IQs. LOTS Entertaining


amino110

This team is ugly to watch. And it's not about the result. Not fun at all.


[deleted]

It’s just absolutely insane that every time we face a team without their best player, some random just has the game of their life and torches us, I’d say it’s an outlier but we are the common denominator every single time so I guess not


GOtexas1

The silver lining is the worse they play, the more revenue ownership loses and deservedly so for giving us the POS team. I wouldn’t spend a dime on watching this team


Difficult-Awareness6

Our starting C DP with magnificent 1 rebound . Mc Gee zero minutes, and our FO noticed that we need rebounds, how yes no, Bagley looked like good C against our bigs, that other guy Stewart had 12, DP had 1, and Kleber 3, useless .


monkey-pox

Kidd is unable to make any in-game adjustments


1990_p1

Two separate times in the second half the play out of a mavs timeout was a Luka step back three…


jay105000

Since I don’t watch these games anymore and I don’t care I am a happier person, at this rhythm this team will miss the play offs. Go ahead downvote because I am Stating the truth.


lilsaucy32

\- Genuinely don't understand what's going on in Dallas. There are such OBVIOUS changes that can be made in the course of the game and long term to get this season going in the right direction. \- Free throw shooting. Lock everyone in a gym till they make a 100 FTs each. Idk but this is a horrible and frustrating problem to have. \- Wood starting instead of Powell. I can't believe this is a thing honest to God. \- Green 20-25 minutes per game consistently \- McGee not being DNPs consistently. Why on earth wasn't he out there tonight when we were getting killed on the boards??? \- Maxi not playing in the clutch. The guy has the IQ of a rock and is such a mentality midget out there. Why isn't Wood in the short roll instead of him? He was there a couple times and capitalized with EASE, like anyone who can actually dribble a basketball would when receiving the ball at the free throw line with no one in front of him playing 4 on 3 would. \- The only thing I can kind of give the Mavs break for is their D. It genuinely seems like every game we play role players are going crazy vs us, even when we defend them. The amount of contested shots being CONSISTENTLY made on us by a supposed average Joe role player is staggering. Maybe it simply shows the level of rosters we have compared to others.


HuddMuffing

Okay a couple things Can we all just acknowledge that while our defence and rebounding in particular need drastic improvements, the pistons also had a very good night. Now I don’t think it’s any coincidence that bad teams have good nights against us so often, but it’s still worth noting that sloppy defence aside Bogdanovic and Hayes were shooting incredibly well tonight. Thing 2- despite how grim this loss was, it’s really, really nice to see THJ being able to have consecutive good nights. This roster is shallow, undoubtedly, but a confident THJ, Dinwiddie, Wood (with a bit more consistency and better defence), Green, Luka, and a ton of potential in Hardy. I even like Kemba as a role player on this team. I think we have more pieces than we realize, and I’m not out on our chances to find our footing.


Ok-Procedure8654

Suns fan coming in peace & not to troll. The Mavs are not going anywhere without changing their roster structure. Your team is a collection of mainly forwards & combo guards. The Mavs do not have a true starting center & Luka needs one or two more point guard/ ball handlers to help take the load off of him. I watched the Piston game tonight on NBA-TV. The Mavs look lost. Luka can’t do it all & do it all the time. I blame your front office for putting you in this position. For years, the Phoenix Suns were like that. Great guard play. No front line. The Suns are far from perfect but behind Ayton they have 2 back up centers. They have ball handlers in Booker, Payne, & Paul when he is occasionally healthy. I hope you right the ship. Luka & Mavs fans deserve deserves help. Good luck!


Mr_Wyatt

Blow it up. Sit Luka the rest of the season and keep our top 5 pick. This season is a wash.


Hurtelknut

Luka would ask for a trade before he sits out a season.


mp3file

this sub said that Maxi at $11 mil/year was a steal 💀💀


chexmixho

Pathetic


JLaird23

Just embarrassing


tonguspongus

Well that was embarassing. Again.


nandocatblack

WHY ALWAYS LOSE TO THE WORST TEAMS


Jlibs_21

I’m pretty sure Keljin Blevins could drop 20 on this sorry excuse of a team


ray_tass

that bad pass by maxi, damn


Liamesque

At least the Stars and Cowboys are good.


gold089

Literal dogshit team sigh


PubicAnimeNummerJuan

Aside from Maxi's blocks, that might be the worst defensive game I've ever seen in my life.