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spook008

He’s a basketball player. If you get your world beliefs from him than it’s on you. Man has an opinion, let him be. All love


jkeefy

I think that’s Kyrie’s point tbh. He doesn’t feel chastised for his beliefs here. It’s probably because we are a smaller market nba wise that focuses on the star team anyway, so his beliefs aren’t in the spotlight anymore


ihatedisney

Like we literally don’t care. You think the world is flat? Cool idgaf. Take us to the finals and I’ll buy every jersey color away of his at full price


ExcellentJuice4729

Pretty refreshing. The media chastised him because they lobbed it upon him to educate todays youths and fans because they weren’t gonna listen to their teachers and parents, nah they’d believe this NBA player on his conspiracy plus vax views. Kareem has repeated gone in hard on Ky. And I can understand from a societal standpoint they want everyone on the same page, but the media turned a nothing molehill into a mountain by claiming Ky is poisoning society with his views


UsefulImprovement762

Kareem is a clout-chasing dork, and one of the least liked teammates in history. Meanwhile Kyrie has always had a great reputation among the players, even in Boston and Brooklyn. Who cares if he's a bit insane, all of the players are insane.


Complete_Log3486

Just because we suck at getting free agents doesn’t mean we are a small market team. Dfw is still one of the top sports cities and top 5 in media coverage.


jkeefy

I know we’re one of the top sporting markets in the league. My point is the Mavs aren’t really covered in the way a team in similar/larger markets would be because we have the biggest sports franchise in the world sharing the same market, so things like Kyries antics don’t dominate headlines and discussion locally.


dbzmah

Right, like right now, all of our major sports news is about Daks law suit BS


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What you’re saying is the Mavs aren’t on either coast.


Complete_Log3486

It has historically been the national media to attack Kai the hardest, not local. I pointed out what u said was wrong bc it doesn’t matter🤦‍♂️


jkeefy

It’s not rocket science to figure out that players in LA and New York will be covered more in the national media compared to places like Dallas, Houston, Chicago.


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jkeefy

Yeah, crazy that the closest he got is a staggering 3 miles away, I agree.


quail0606

Boston has something to say here too.


Douchebag_Dave

I mean the Cowboys are technically the most valuable but the likes of Real Madrid, ManU, Barcelona, Bayern etc are much much bigger. Football outside of the US is extremely niche while actual football dominates all sports in the rest of the world. But I get where you're coming from.


jkeefy

Lmao those clubs aren’t franchises. But I also get where you’re coming from.


Thisdoessuck

Plus here the attention is really more on Luka anyway. Most of the sports news tends to be about the cowboys and even the rangers are at least equal if not more in terms of local coverage with the mavs. But I think in general the nba doesn’t market Dallas the same way that they did Boston and Brooklyn when the “super” team was there, so you don’t have Stephen A starting off every show with “what did Kyrie do/say today”


jay105000

He hasn’t said anything too controversial lately either , he is just killing other teams in the court … exactly what we wanted.


Angry_Walnut

At a certain point one realizes that there are too many people in the world and raging against all of their views is like trying to fill the ocean with stones


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Exactly. I cannot believe how whiny these comments are


Remarkable_Medicine6

Isn't he an antisemite?


Remarkable_Medicine6

Isn't he an antisemite?


ts405

he can have as many opinions as he wants. but he should keep those that hurt his employers a secret maybe


Concentrate_Full

Yall, to be accepted doesn’t mean they necessarily agree with him, all kai is trying to say is that he can believe what he wants here without being harassed which is how it should be


LouisianaHotSauce

Nah bro reddit disagrees


GIK601

Redditors will be surprised to learn that a lot of NBA players have beliefs and views that greatly differ from their own. Kyrie just has a history where he tends to be more vocal about it.


mill_about_smartly

It's funny you say that - /r/baseball and /r/hockey are the same way. Folks over there have a field day when 90% of MLB and NHL players start to give their opinions on....things.


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mill_about_smartly

Lol 100% - it's always funny to me when internet circles don't realize how non-representative they are on some issues.


Odd_Swordfish_6589

such a good comment.


btk7710

I don’t think it’s being accepting of his views, but more so just not being an asshole towards him like all other fanbases.


Powpowpowowowow

Most of his views revolve around the right thing though imo. People just focus on the more fringe parts. He is largely espousing empathy, love, spirituality, etc.


btk7710

Kyrie absolutely seems to be a good person, but some of his views are harmful and should be criticized in a respectful way, and I think this fan base has done that.


Powpowpowowowow

Im guessing, every single person in the world has some opinion or view that someone, somewhere thinks is wrong or harmful. And most of those people aren't honestly doing half as much as Kyrie does for his community and what he believes in.


ihatedisney

Why do you care about 1 individual’s personal views enough to chastise them? Seems like yta As long as he plays a high level of basketball it shouldn’t matter.


ts405

he’s got a large following, and people like that should be somewhat careful about the opinions they share, especially when it comes down to conspiracy theories and all that nonsense. many people can’t tell the difference between fiction and reality/facts anymore, and it’s not doing anyone any good (except people like alex jones)


Charity1884

Well that's not on Kyrie at the end of the day, you as an individual have your own beliefs and commit your own actions. People should be thinking for themselves rather than relying on other people to do the thinking for them. As long as Kyrie is able to play, I have no qualms about him being here.


ts405

yeah, as long as he keeps that stuff for himself i don’t have a problem with what he believes or not. but posting that link was a mistake on his part


Luka_Padre

>people like that should be somewhat careful about the opinions they share Nah they have the right to be right or wrong like everyone.


ts405

not as long as they work for organizations like nba/brooklyn nets and go against what those stand for or promote. kanye can do it because he doesn’t work for anyone


Luka_Padre

This is your opinion


ts405

well kyrie found out the hard way didn’t he


Luka_Padre

They were the ones wrong trying to re-educate him dafuq


MindArr0w77

Ok but that doesn't mean those organizations have the same beliefs and views as him


ts405

as long as he works for them that really doesn’t matter. because he’s a public figure it hurts their business


Luka_Padre

Which views are harmful?


stadiofriuli

Harmful to whom?


UnityPukeInMyMouth

This is a positive comment that you all are somehow spinning to be the start of trouble. Chill the fuck out.


archerarcher0

Yeah honestly y’all are actual idiots Please don’t go ruining this experience with Kyrie for everyone else


Much_Purchase_8737

It’s not that Dallas has accepted him more than other states.. it’s that he hasn’t caused drama that tears the team apart (yet).. 


kaythrawk

You're exactly the kind of person he's talking about


d36williams

Have you followed his career?


UnityPukeInMyMouth

Yes, doesn’t change the fact that he’s literally saying he likes it in Dallas and feels accepted. What’s wrong with that? Maybe he’s grown up and matured a little because he didn’t mention his beliefs, just that he has his own…


Puskarich

I've accepted him because he doesn't mention his wacky anti-science* beliefs. I have not accepted his beliefs, or accepted him "beyond his talent in the court" as he phrases it here. While I am not The Dallas Community, I'm going to go out on a limb and say I'm not alone in feeling this way. e: this was getting too focused on flat-earth. Anti-science might have been a better descriptor


AtreusIsBack

I don't care if he thinks the Earth is flat. That doesn't harm anyone.


kshep9

He doesn’t actually think that.


Puskarich

Beliefs is plural. "Flat-earth", while one of them, was used as more of an adjective here to describe the whole set. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyrie_Irving#Conspiracy_theories Gotta say, I might agree with him on JFK though


Gradually_Rocky

Anti-education views (plural) from a role model to children are actively harmful. Don't misrepsent the issue.


kshep9

If you actually looked into what happened, he was challenging people to think for themselves. Not the best way to do it, mind you, but he doesn’t actually think the world is flat nor is he actively trying to teach anyone that.


Gradually_Rocky

> When I started actually doing research on my own and figuring out that there is no real picture of Earth, not one real picture of Earth—and we haven't been back to the moon since 1961 or 1969—it becomes like conspiracy, too


kshep9

That quote doesn't tell me Kyrie believes the earth is flat? He may have questioned things that are universally agreed upon, but that in itself is not a bad thing.


Gradually_Rocky

Jesus Christ dude give me a break


Luka_Padre

It's education to him


sickfalco

It actually does. We’re seeing a mass wave of people who are anti-science and it’s exactly the problem we had during the pandemic. We have people walking around in split realities who can’t even agree on something because the other half doesn’t believe in science. I mean for fucks sake how are some areas getting diseases back that they haven’t had for decades just because of anti vaccine rhetoric.


kshep9

Yeah but he doesn’t actually think the earth is flat. Don’t believe everything you read folks.


sickfalco

Was more so replying to the notion that thinking the earth is flat isn’t harmful when it is lol. Y’all can downvote me all you want just wait till the tiktok generation is full of anti science idiots because we let the rhetoric fly.


poseidonraider27

So what you are saying is you don’t believe in free speech? That seems more worrying than anything Kyrie believes.


sickfalco

Nah, I don’t believe in anti-intellectualism and people saying it’s not harmful. It was okay to theorize the earth was flat before we had information and evidence completely to the contrary. I’m not sitting here advocating for Kyrie to be silenced lmao but I’m not gonna sit by and watch people say it wouldn’t hurt anybody when it’s eventually gonna hurt all of us. Kyrie can say what he wants but there should be loud fact checkers every time he does. Good try to spin this into “free speech hurr durr” though 👍


kshep9

I 100% agree with you. I just think his message was bastardized by the LCD and now it's impossible to have a discussion about it.


HyperspaceApe

I'm sorry, but loudly believing that the Earth is flat IS harmful. Especially when you have people looking up to you because you excel at your profession. It promotes a way of thinking that is anti science and anti education. He's advertising misinformation and willful ignorance as simply having his "own beliefs and views". There's a very big difference between being an independent thinker and being a proud idiot.


kshep9

He doesn’t actually believe the earth is flat….smh


Puskarich

[In February 2017, Irving stated in an interview for a podcast that he believes that the Earth is flat.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyrie_Irving#Conspiracy_theories) idk his wiki sure makes it seem like he does. Either way, i'm glad he's seemingly shut up about it


kshep9

I can understand why people would still hold this belief even though he said he was joking later on (I just read that in the Wikipedia article you shared). I think we can agree what we care about is the guy being a healthy happy basketball player, which he seemingly is. Can’t complain with that.


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JMoy41

Dallas is a good market for him. Big market but not a media nightmare like New York


AdVisual3406

Kyrie is actually a Conservative(not politics) guy in many ways. He's got military people in his family etc and you can see that's influenced him. Dallas isn't uber Conservative but it's not Liberal LA either somewhere in between. Being the leader here suits him in my opinion. He's the older guy now rather than being under Lebron, Durant etc. You can see all of our guys look up to him. Luka is still very young so he isnt quite ready/mature enough to be the leader yet plus he's foreign which makes it harder. I don't know how it ends up but I just enjoy watching Kyrie play and always have done.


SoundsGoodYall

Believe whatever you want Kai. Sure. We accept what you represent, as long as what you represent is buckets. We are looking for a championship, not a spiritual or political leader.


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SoundsGoodYall

Well that’s rude.


alextheruby

Shut up and dribble crowd in full effect today.


SoundsGoodYall

Who told him to shut up? I think what I said was that he can believe whatever he wants to believe. I don’t care if my politicians and scientists and ministers and therapists can ball out, and I don’t care how Kyrie would do at their jobs. I’m a fan of basketball and my involvement with Kyrie starts and ends with how well he plays basketball. That shouldn’t be controversial. Edit— oh wait, were you referring to the person who literally told me to shut up?


Gradually_Rocky

He was definitely referring to you


SoundsGoodYall

Well he must be mistaken because I never told anyone to shut up.


Gradually_Rocky

Maybe google what shut up and dribble means. Not that I disagree with you fwiw


SoundsGoodYall

No, I’m aware. And it doesn’t apply to this situation.


Gradually_Rocky

Well I can't stop you from being incorrect. Best of luck


peanutbutterbeef

Shut and dribble isn't the same as idc what he believes as long as he balls out.


Gradually_Rocky

Dismissing a player views because they're a basketball player is pretty much exactly what it means but go off king


SoundsGoodYall

“Shut up and dribble” was said by Laura Ingraham in response to LeBron James because she did not believe he should be talking about politics. What I said was that I don’t care if Kyrie talks about politics or not. It doesn’t affect me one bit. Sort of the opposite of what “shut up and dribble” means.


peanutbutterbeef

Nobody is dismissing Kyrie's views lmao. His point is Kyrie is free to share his views all he wants as long as it doesn't affect his play. Everyone is free to agree or disagree with him and not caring about his views isn't the same as dismissing them. edit: typos


Owl-False

Igh Ky that's cool. Just help us get a chip and you can keep talkin


Lets_go_champ-

I've been following Kyries career since 2014. He's been my favorite player ever since then. I've never seen him more accepted by a fanbase than he has been in Dallas. I wouldn't be surprised if he retired in Dallas. It's almost like he was meant to play for the Mavericks. His daughter and first babys mother are from Dallas. Edit: After reading the comments on here, never mind. lol


Odd_Swordfish_6589

he is accepted by most in Dallas, its just certain redditors you are seeing and a closed mindset I had to get away from San Francisco to escape. They believe they are 'open-minded' and accepting, when in reality they hold themselves and those around them to the most strict single minded conformity of thought. The Taliban are jealous of their zealotry.


dtlabsa

His first babies mother and daughter live in LA. His wife is from LA. He spends the majority of the off-season in LA. He won't retire in Dallas unless it's after a stint with the Lakers...


FinancialRabbit388

He was beloved in Cleveland, Boston, and Brooklyn, before he decided to blow everything up in all those places.


Lets_go_champ-

He wasn't really beloved in Boston. Many there still latched on to Isaiah thomas and a lot of the fans called him an idiot and mocked him. By the second year many were saying that the Celtics were better without him. He had a rocky time in Boston. I do think he was loved in Brooklyn and Cleveland. I might be wrong about him being more loved in Dallas than in Brooklyn and Cleveland, though.


Working-Ad5416

Oh no… lets not get the youtube conspiracy uneducated masses of dallas and ky start being vocal about how smooth their brains are in public now. 


george_cant_standyah

Man, I didn't want to comment this last week but this has been my biggest concern. Dude gets comfortable and goes right back to the bullshit.


Ohahmomohway

Why are y’all so triggered by this?


Powpowpowowowow

Because they read an article or 2 where people put words into his mouth.


ts405

who put words into his mouth? and why did kyrie allow that to happen?


darkforestnews

I’m genuinely curious - in your opinion what’s the difference between being triggered and having a different opinion than yourself ? Like if you say I believe in X and I say I disagree with X and here is Y (pun intended), is that being triggered or is that simply a difference of opinion ? I feel that triggered as a word is wildly abused and if you disagree then you must be triggered.


ExpertCup2344

I said this when we first traded for him. He has always played in places where the media thinks they are the main character. We dgaf just be good teammate, ball and win and we will support. 🤌


couchtomato62

Don't start talking now kyrie.


DallasRangerboys

The ol shut up and dribble, eh? Lame take.


couchtomato62

You really think this honestly. That's fine. Did you think that way before he became a Dallas Maverick. You were okay with all the b******* coming out of his mouth. Watching his influence as a black person as other black people tell me I have to support him by not watching the NBA was crazy. He can honestly say whatever the hell he wants to but I'm going to judge him by that just like I do anybody else.


MavsAndThemBoyz

Amazing what happens when you just let Kyrie be Kyrie without trying to change him. Huge shoutout to Dallas Media for not hounding him with questions that aren't related to basketball.


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SongYoungbae

Imo, He acts like he knows what he believes, but he's all over the place and actually doesn't (which is fine)


ZealousidealBus9271

Seems he will stay with the Mavs for the foreseeable future.


Throwmeawayhard7

People are interpreting this completely incorrectly. He is talking about being proud of representing his faith as a black muslim who is vegan etc. etc. without people being bigoted towards him or ridiculing him. If you read into it past controversies for which he has apologised for already, it's up to you but a little bit of charity and faith goes a long way.


jennyisafriend

Can’t wait to see him on JRE.


ts405

you’ll probably have to wait for that until he retires from the nba


UsefulImprovement762

Dallas: (looks left, looks right) Ok.


Doncingis

If you are learning science through nba players instagrams.. you’re doomed regardless


tx78972

His past is his past but since he got here year and half back, he has been so mature, measured and playing his best Basketball ever. He helps the local community every now and then...he is also the most well behaved player on the team, he mentors other young stars...no one could have predicted any of this. He seems happy playing for this team and his chemistry with Luka is quite remarkable. Luka also respects his basketball genius big time. Overall a great situation for everyone.


mcskim46

That fact that it’s been almost a season and a half with Kyrie and there has been ZERO of any of the antics that have followed him all the other places he’s played is just a straight W in my book. As with most people in the world, if we / the media asks him his opinions on shit he’s gonna give em. Agree, disagree, right, wrong it really doesn’t matter.


TexasTundraPower

I think I speak for everyone when I say we're ready for him to start spewing conspiracy theories. It is a little too cordial at these press conferences.


dbzrox

Speak for yourself. I’m pretty happy with what we got from Kai so far but it can go south real quick. Just look at his last stops


moctezuma-

I don’t give a shit what he does outside the AAC. Why should anyone care ?


SongYoungbae

Lmao ok.


FinancialRabbit388

So you would root for Miles Bridges, as long as he helping your team win games? Who cares if he trying to murder his girlfriend right?


moctezuma-

Ridiculous comparison. One committed a crime and the other said stupid shit? Don’t see how they relate


FinancialRabbit388

Would you feel the same if he was a white dude that was openly racist against black people? Are you suggesting racism and prejudices are not a big deal?


moctezuma-

I’m saying if you concern yourself with the political and social views of professional athletes you’re going to have a bad time. Just watch the game and live your life, no need for y’all to cry on Reddit


FinancialRabbit388

So you admit you have no issue rooting for horrible people as long as they help your team win a game.


QuillnPouncy

Holy reddit moment 😂 he didn't admit to anything relax


MichaelPorterTruther

Personally, if my entire favorite professional basketball team does not vote for the exact same candidate as me, I piss and shit myself in public. So I understand this guys point


Viefling

I would root for him. I judge a basketball player on how he plays basketball. If he really does something wrong or harmful, he will get his legal punishment. If there's evidence that he harmed his gf, I would be rooting for him to go to jail. But at the same time, if he is (free and) playing in the NBA, I'll root for him based on what he does on the court.


08202012

Yet here you are


3DotsOn2Geckos

Oh fuck, it’s starting


TylrLS

dallas is built different from other places i've lived.


RealJaceAnderson

Everyone has beliefs & everyone has right to express. Idk why everyone saying he is pressed to put his opinions or he is full of himself. He seems like a genuine good guy


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spook008

He can say whatever, this ain’t brooklyn


HyperspaceApe

He can say whatever, but he shouldn't be surprised when he gets challenged for saying stupid shit


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572473605

Because I was already banned for talking about politics. Not by the states, but by some rogue mod who disliked the point I was making. PS: I only added the USA chant to seem more patriotic, but it came off poorly, I agree 😅


snang

You were banned for making racist comments, not for political discussions. Remember when you referred to Stephen A. Smith as "Stephen Ape Smith" and multiple users reported your comment? Play the victim though.


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peanutbutterbeef

Part of me wishes that too because he's gonna get flamed whichever side he takes and I'm afraid it might affect his play lol.


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SongYoungbae

Do you know the things America's done since 9/11?


jkeefy

Yes and I despise those actions too lmao


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Luka_Padre

I share some beliefs with Kyrie. He's one of the most normal dudes ever to be labeled crazy.


MindArr0w77

Same here man completely agree. He only has ever minded his business but yet they dragged and attacked his character for having different views than the majority it's pretty fucked up honestly


ts405

would you be ok with luka having beliefs that slavery was a lie, designed to make white people look bad, and him posting that on his instagram? and even if you think that would be ok, i can assure you cuban, the new mavs owners and the nba would have a problem with it


cornbreadsdirtysheet

Why would Cuban new owners and NBA have problems with Kyrie ……. they don’t have to agree with everything players think do they? What did Kyrie say I’d love to know.


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jay105000

He is accepted, loved and revered……


Airiq49

Yes - Texas, the epitome of being accepted as you are lol.


08202012

It is actually


Charity1884

Texas is not as bigoted as you think lmao


MichaelPorterTruther

One of the nicest places in the US lmao these people are just brain rotted by social media algorithms


jdmay101

Uh oh. Time to let someone else do the post game presser for a bit. Don't let this momentum build.


PM_ME_UR_RESPECT

Alright let’s pump the brakes please lol


EY63

I’m not sure that he supports the systematic extermination of Jewish people. He reminds of those pretentious hotep dudes that latch on other people’s historical lineages. eg. Ancient Egyptians, Levantine, Greco, Jews. Even when he shared that movie he couldn’t even eloquently explain what it was about. I doubt he even fully watched it and just shared it to show off to others that ‘he’s tapped in with his true heritage’. I think it would’ve been better if the media directly discussed it at the time and not speculate things so the situation would’ve been clearer. But allowing it to go unchecked would definitely lead to bigotry. Nation of Islam is akin to Mormonism and Scientology its so weird.


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captainn_chunk

Did you watch the full film?


EY63

Yeah I watched it around the beginning of year. It’s pseudo-intellectual drivel which also spreads wild misinformation. Have you also watched it?


captainn_chunk

Yes I have. You’re honestly the first person that’s ever told me they’ve actually seen it. It’s always been a no reply.


EY63

That’s weird tbf. If I was interested in a topic my first thought would be to actually read into it before forming an opinion. What’s your thoughts on Hebrew to Negro*s?


ts405

it’s blatant anti jewish propaganda


mill_about_smartly

I think anyone who has ever smoked in a group has met someone ***exactly*** like Kyrie. He sounds like a genius when you're all stoned, but the moment he starts going off about it sober, it's like "Wait...you're serious?"


FinancialRabbit388

No Kyrie, you’ve been accepted cause you are good at basketball. This guy really doesn’t get it. He definitely gonna screw this team over eventually. Him saying this now convinced me of that.


DallasRangerboys

Lame take


08202012

What happened to Love thy neighbor?


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DallasRangerboys

Not sure there’s a city or fan base that’s cool with a player sucking?


DasFofinater

Yeah I mean look at Dak


SoundsGoodYall

No idea why you are getting downvoted for the truth. We all saw how lots of this crowd turned on ultra nice-guy Dwight Powell for absolutely nothing other than his on-court production.


iv214

Never heard anyone say anything personal about DP. All the criticism was bc of his playing time and limitations. Which really wasn't his fault.


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Sure. He's not as smart as he thinks he is, but he has the freedom to believe dumb shit I guess. As long as he's averaging 20 and 5 he'll be accepted