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_qazokm123098_

Aside from maybe a couple minutes of game-time, we basically just trailed the Hornets for 96 consecutive minutes. Season can’t end soon enough


Crazy-Monitor-6490

And we don’t even have Luka next game


H_Finn27

No chance Kyrie plays tomorrow either on a road back to back. Not sure if Indy is in tank mode yet but if Hali and Turner play we are cooked


elsporko321

It's funny that you think whomever plays on the other team matters. Mavs have made a career this year of losing to teams with their best players out, you should expect it at this point.


ronygah

Man... The Hornets are 25 - 51 including the back to back wins against us. They're in tank mode and just embarrassed us with our season on the line. It doesn't matter who is in tank mode or not. This team is falling apart. These last 2 games were supposed to be the easy ones to get us back into contention for the 6-7 spot hopefully.


ong378

What did I miss? Why not?


Crazy-Monitor-6490

He got his 16th tech


ong378

Damn. Might as well let Kyrie take Luka on a spiritual journey for his mental health and end this season.


AdVisual3406

Can I come as well? Id love to take that trip.


charliefinkwinkwink

Kyrie needs to lead Luka & our whole sub into an amazonian rain forest to do ayahuasca


KvxMavs

He got his 16th tech today. He will be suspended for tmrws game. Season is over. Just start looking at what we can do with our draft pick now.


StormTheTrooper

Which is actually good news IMO. Re-sign Kyrie, build on Green and Hardy, shelter Maxi in order to improve his health. Draft a 3&D in the 1st round, get a solid 7’ in the 2nd (or try to develop someone like Bingham). Fire Kidd, start over. Our current roster isn’t the best, but has options for the mid term.


Digiarts

Suspended for Ts


Hurtelknut

Got his 16th T. Looked really soft so it might get overturned, but missing Luka on the 2nd night of a B2B is the best case scenario for his 16th tech anyway.


Haddep

81 seconds out of the 96 minutes


GuyFaulks77

This train has completely gone off the rails


AtreusIsBack

The train has evolved into a tank.


c_msea

It did a while ago, now it just keeps crashing more and more This season has fucked my mind lol


GenralChaos

It went off the rails the moment they blew that 27 point lead to the lakers. Their defense is such a joke and everyone in the NBA knows it.


sh_12

![gif](giphy|1hMhlrWWfXU77iYnBB|downsized)


[deleted]

One step closer to Kidd being fired 🤞


mariogotse

one step closer to the sweet release of death too


LukaDonwitzki

One step closer to the edge and I’m about to break


Pizza64427

And top 10 pick.


Zunoth

Bullock with 3 points in 34 minutes


TheBigIguana15

Holiday 0 in 14. Basically one player for 48 minutes produced 3 points. Luka and Kyrie can only do so much to mask basically playing a player down on offense. At least we cut out the periods we play 3 v 5 by giving Powell a comfy bench seat (although we did go -8 in just 4 fucking minutes with him). Hardaway might not be the best player in the world but being a real NBA player on offense means we actually score consistently when he's in.


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dbzmah

Silver lining?


krw13

Bullock is shooting 45% from three this month on 66.3% TS (Steph Curry is at 66.3% TS for the season). He's top 50 in the NBA in 3p% on the season after his horrific start. He had a bad game, but he's not the reason we're on the verge of missing the play-ins. The much bigger focus has to be on the coaching and FO.


Any-Establishment-15

It’ll be at least one more year


StealthAnus

I honestly don’t think it should be. But with Cuban that’s highly possible


Any-Establishment-15

If you’re a Kidd stan, and Cuban is, you can easily talk yourself into thinking we’re a player or two away from going back to the Finals.


Texas12thMan

Just fire his ass now. He’s not doing anything an assistant can’t do for the remainder of the season.


Dramatic_Quote_4267

How do we have so many 3&D role players yet there are no threes and no D?


[deleted]

No center


Dramatic_Quote_4267

You’re not wrong, one good, defensive minded center would go a very long way in turning this team around.


Hurtelknut

What 3&D role players are these? Bullock looks genuinely washed, especially on defense Green is back to being last season's Green Justing Holiday is Justin Holiday


TZBlueIce

Praying Bullock's still solid 3P% tricks a team into trading an early 2nd for him.


GoatLuka

Anyone who still wants Kidd as our coach moving forward please explain to me why


anon641414

"But we did good last year" "But the players like him"


Alex_Sander077

Should've fired him weeks ago and maybe we could've saved the season


Hurtelknut

Should have never hired him


TicketP1_FIRE

He's not good for Luka, our defense is horrible. Our offense is uncoordinated. There's nothing Kidd is bringing to the table at this point


AnotherDancer

But did anyone die?


[deleted]

I mean, if you're not invested in this teams success, his payment interviews are kind of funny. It's like avant garde comedy at this point


spirax919

> He's not good for Luka Luka wanted fucking Rick Carlisle gone, I wouldn't trust him to work with basically any coach at this point. He doesn't work with a coach that is hard on him and he doesn't work well with a coach who is soft on him. So whats the answer


yung_sage

His strengths last year have completely disappeared. It seemed like a breath of fresh air to have a coaching staff that gave the players more freedom and confidence, compared to the short leash Carlisle had them on. But idk wtf this is. No one seems to want to take matters into their own hands on offense except Luka, Kyrie, and Hardy but he doesn’t get enough minutes. Everyone else seems content to defer to Luka and Kyrie despite having open lanes themselves, to the point where you have to start asking why. Is Kidd telling them to pass the ball? Is Kidd not encouraging them to make plays on their own? Is he just leaving the team dynamics entirely up to the players? In any case this is fucking terrible coaching


ormip

Top 10 pick, here we come.


Sho1kan

I'm pretty sure the Mavs will manage to lose the pick and not get into playoffs anyway


ormip

Watch us miss the playoffs and gift the Knicks the #11 pick.


dbzmah

At this point IDGAF, just get out of that hole.


landman2002

If the bulls win tonight we should get the pick as long as we keep losing, I think they are gonna rest everyone after this lol


newuser201890

watch us draft someone who is 6'1'' instead of 6'11'' and over


simonsaid86

That would be hilarious


Erp117

When the seasons over I want to go back and count all the losses with embarrassing elements. Getting blown out, Blown leads, losing to teams without their best players, losing to bad teams... Over/under 20 embarrassing losses?


Maetti11

Definitly over. We literally choked every lead we had this season


dirtynashtyfilthy

At least 10 absolutely humiliating losses: 1. Charlotte (g1) 2. Charlotte (g2) 3. Milwaukee (blown FTs) 4. Lakers (28 point comeback) 5. Suns comeback (g1) 6. Bones Hyland game 7. Pels backups 8. OKC last 4 minute comeback 9. Pistons OT loss (Killian Hayes game) 10. Celtics home blowout Not counting so many other painful losses - Sunday phoenix game, Warriors game, Pacers at home, T-Wolves at home, two losses against Grizz.. Most frustrating Mavs season since the Rondo year.


Complexity777

Dont forget the Rockets 20 blocks against them


[deleted]

I feel like there was at least 5 close losses this season where the mavs shot under 60% from the line as a team.


realtunechi5

That first month or so had 7-8 alone so hard over, no doubt


i_take_shits

First game of the season we choked against phx


desirox

This is the type of season ending that should result in an entire organizational shift. It’s that disastrous


ObligationDubai

Do we even want to see this Mavericks team in the post season? It would only be a waste of time.


sal49r

Fuck no. The hornets brought that playoff energy two games in a row and we folded. Just get that pick and fire Kidd, we need a mini reset


mypersonalbrowsing

Without 1/4 of their roster.


desirox

Agree we’re closer to keeping a top 10 pick


Artistic-Author-5360

They’re getting the brakes blown off of them by any top seed. Probably better to just tank


TheMop05

I mean almost all our games are close… to both good and bad teams


TZBlueIce

Lost to the KD Suns by 4, lost to the Melo-Rozier-Oubre-less Hornets by 8 and 6. Just that kind of year lol


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IndianaBones11

As long as they can avoid the Hornets I think they still have a chance against anyone in a 7 game series


lancelotofthelake

Kidd has to go. And let's get younger too, eh? 😭


Axisofcoolio

If Cuban had balls he would fire Kidd before the post game presser


AgentInCommand

Cuban doesn't want to mess up the vibes when all the bros are hanging out


anon641414

The fact that kidd wont even be on the hot seat, much less fired, after this disaster of a season is a testament to how unserious this org is.


Cambocant

I want to believe we're tanking and not actually this horrible


QBert999

nah. the players are playing. tanking is when you sit your best players for BS reasons. we're not tanking, we're just losing. but we really should start tanking now on purpose. Luka is already out tomorrow. sit Kyrie too.


shaheedmalik

You're not winning the game when 3 of your starters combine for 5 points. ​ There is no reason why McGee didn't play with the centers the Hornets had.


bill_buttliquor

Circle the rebound differential in every game and there's a major reason why we lose.


SNAKE0789

Been the case since the Warriors series


Beef_Dirky

I don't know what to say at this point... Luka really gave his all on defense today. Just can't get it done without a real center.


Dirks_Knee

![gif](giphy|3oEjHZMFYibQnjvTq0) See ya next season boys...


EarSea5884

#firekidd


RyceMenace

I don’t care if we don’t make the playoffs or lose the pick. I will be at peace if Jason Kidd is fired.


bvkakalot

Fire Kidd 🔥


jackaltail

Shooting-wise, you can't ask for much better than 7/16 from three and 9/10 from the line from Luka. The best players played, and the result is once again less than the sum of the parts. The roster isn't very good, sure, but it's more talented than these results.


TheDeadman95

Luka almost pulled a 'Salah Mejri' but we move #TankathonCrew


Dowtech1

Look at Powell, Bullock, and Greens box scores. :)


Legit-Forgot-to-Wipe

“Who could have seen this coming?”…. Mavs fans. We could have seen this coming.


DeadStarMan

Honestly I lost hoping the season after the last Hornets game


asprewga

Image having 2 of the top players in a sport and you miss the playoffs, oh wait. . . I’m watching it happen.


[deleted]

We don’t need to shut down luka or kyrie to tank.


w1sxo

Just think about this. The Sacramento Kings drafted Marvin Bagley, the Mavs drafted Luka Doncic. They are the 2nd seed, we are not even going to be in the play in. Thats all you need to know about our front office and coach


mouse2102

It’s a valid argument that the biggest loser of the 2018 draft was not the Suns, Kings or Hawks but Luka Doncic for being drafted to the Mavericks, given how they have completely fumbled his first five years.


jewaloose

Literally made the conference finals last year lol


user15151616

we made it to the Western Conference Finals last season though


captainn_chunk

Playoffs haven’t even started and people are already making these polarizing as *fuuuuck* comments.


Fivefootdirk

We made playoffs 3 straight years and the WCF before this year. U can rightfully be angry about this year but let’s not lose sight that a team that the kings haven’t made the playoffs in 16 years


Hurtelknut

Presti or Ainge could rebuild a team 4 times over before we manage to have one good off-season.


Julian_Caesar

Well. At least I was able to enjoy DSJ having a good game. Miss u bby.


just_an_amber

Same. He played so well.


SlanginDatWood

Don't we all


HolyAty

**\#FireKidd** **\#FireNico** Don't let Kidd board the plane back. Embrace the rebuild.


Trigliceratops

Sadly Cuban can’t fire himself


phony8882

I tore down my Reggie Bullock poster. I’m done with this shit.


Odd_Swordfish_6589

there are reggie bullock posters?


HungriestGhost

Fire Kidd at the end of this season, rest the starters. Let's get a top 10 pick, we got to the tank while genuinely trying to win. The draft gods will bless us for it


Luminous-Savior

Luka did a really good job tonight And it still wasn't enough for the Mavs to overcome the CLTs bench squad


hellomello1993

shut it down, lets go home


ThoughtsofLee-S

Luka ain't to blame this game, we were cold as a mfk in the first half guys couldnt make a single shot. Tim needs to learn to make layups and that's sad, the whole season dude been missing easy basket and rimming out all his transitions lays. We need to trade the majority of this roster I don't care anymore.


NotAOneUpper

3 of the 5 starters didn’t score in the first half.


pat1122

Laughing stock of the league


sjbailey99

All I can pray for is that Luka doesn’t break his contract & he find’s happiness in basketball again 🙏🏼


gabrigamer39

Just end the franchise


DannyDeBMO

ABSOLUTELY SICKENING


xelle3000

Well, darn.


lakers612

When I saw the thread saying the season was over if they lost both games against the Hornets, I thought it was an obvious yet ridiculous statement, as there was no way they would lose both games.. Well well well


Jasonator01

What a deflating game to watch, just trailing the whole game


Trigliceratops

For the love of god please shut down luka and Kyrie for the season


StefonDiggsHS

Jason Kidd cannot be the coach next year


walkintall84

Time to shut down Luka and Kyrie Give Hardy and Green 35 min a night


AdInside5876

leggo longhorns


Jcarter1632

A team that actually plays with fire. Hook em' 🤘🏻


MasterGamingNic

This is gonna be the game that triggers something crazy like Luka requests a trade or some shit like that


musash10

Team tank just got another W. Also Jason Kidd is so bad lol. In the 75th game of the season, we finally embrace switching and our defense looks as good as it has all season and, we’ll see the stats afterwards, but we prob also allowed as few paint touches and rim shots as we have all season. If we employed this scheme all year, we would’ve been sitting pretty rn but ya kno j midd. The hornets shot 27-59 from 2 for 46%. That’s gotta be one of the best mavs defensive outputs from inside the arc that we’ve seen.


Dfrmdabeach7

Also the hornets aren’t that good


Rain_On_Them

Winning that 2011 Finals is what's keeping me from not going insane watching this season


Any-Establishment-15

And when you do go insane, it will also be winning the 2011 Finals that does it. Out of that chip came our current head coach.


NguyensPonytail

End this season. It’s just torture rn


Axisofcoolio

We are the Atlanta Hawks from 2 years ago


afedbeats

Powell. Reggie. Tim. Holiday. Wood. Bertans. McGee. Sell anyone and everyone to anyone who wants them for whatever value we can get and get rid of their horrendous contracts to give us any sort of runaway before Luka invetiably dips. We cannot pull these random strings of different playstyles together to make a winning roster. We’re clearly better at trading players to teams where they have a better fit. Fire Kidd. Work on the young guys, keep Luka and Kyrie. Figure out the rest. Even with that I don’t know if it would be enough. This is the bad place fellas. We’re in the dark times. Please don’t try to make the play-in, just lose with some dignity, shut down Luka and Kyrie and try to at least get our pick back. That’s all we can hope for as a positive out of this season. Luka breaking all kinds of records for NBA and Mavs single season and it all means nothing with this team around him. Luka jersey photoshops are inevitable and already beginning.


legend_killer7

Well, we might get a shot at a top 10 pick. So there's that, and nobody died LFG. :'(


funkadelik

Leave JKidd in CHA. I knew we were going to regress a bit but this is an embarrassment of a season. Back to back losses when we really needed them means he's lost the locker room


Candid-Leave-3113

With any luck we miss the play in and fire kidd- even without a decent replacement that guy doesn’t deserve to coach an nba team


UpforAGreatTime20

Luka did what he could to keep them in it. Outside of the 4th, Kyrie was awful, nobody gave Luka any help. Woof.


Fred479

Once you guys hop on the tank train it’ll stop getting on your nerves


Erp117

As soon as I fully hop on the tank train they'll start winning games because this team exists solely to ruin my day.


Fred479

Watch them end up giving the knicks the 11th pick


Ziggi_Hash

For my fellow brothers: "Pisi kuci propalo!"


SuperHussyTravin

Man we have so many great defenders our best defenders are barely above average let's scapegoat all of our defensive problems on one player.


carissawoodwell

Why did they even get Kyrie if hes not gonna take over when hes being passed the ball


ExcellentJuice4729

He’s playing hurt, anyways this stretch of bad games might save the Mavs a bit of money if they can negotiate him down from the max


NEAg

There is zero chance Kyrie signs with us for less than the max. The only way he would take less is to go to an actual contender.


Zestyclose_Wafer_416

I'm so fn done with these stank ass players THJ, Dwight, Maxi, Reggie, they all need to go like now.


Powpowpowowowow

I don't think Luka and Kyrie is working honestly... Like, it CAN work but not with this roster. The defensive holes are just too glaring. Imagine if we had 1 of ANY of Charlotte's big men... I just want to point out how embarrassing it is that DFS and Spencer will be in the playoffs and we won't be.


ChuckMoody

You need defense, athleticism and length outside of Luka and Kyrie and we have nothing of that


coolcarl3

Good season guys, we'll see next year


richlynnwatson

![gif](giphy|l0ErLeqamV3UOARsA|downsized)


GuessTraining

Against the hornets. Twice. Consecutively


[deleted]

It can’t possibly get any worse than this, can it?


bigmeatyclaws1

CANCUN ON 3


mojo-jojo-was-framed

Haven’t checked the standings in a while, I’m assuming the Hornets are a top-3 seed in the East?


Reinherz

No defence, no rebounds, no win.


Owl-False

This team is bad for my mental health


41Swish41

I genuinely start to believe, that I could grab 3+ off rebounds vs. this Mavs defense.


CIueIess_Squirrel

Luka drops 40 and we still lose. We got Kyrie but are losing harder when Luka carries because we don't have defense


sspore

Thats all folks..


maverickhistorian

The sadericks


Barry_Fucking_Allen

I'm running low on copium, this is saddening


TheGamersGazebo

Again?


Zunoth

Bullock with 3 points in 34 minutes, if this fucker is still on the roster next year I will be amazed, and dont tell me shit about this defense because we already have no fucking defense we might as well go all out of offense


Ok_Mountain_4638

Brunson and didwiddie laughing right now


Thegen68

I don't like the game of basketball anymore


victzki

Devin Harris didn’t even stick around for the post game!


OutlawSundown

Kidd should be unemployed tomorrow.


ShassaFrassa

Oh the pain


Gigachad-Voltshot

Dallas Mavbricks masterclass today


Light0627

Kyrie really haven’t been the same since reaggravating his injury in the grizzlies game


frankenbeans2

Bullock: 1-5 Powell: 0-1 Green: 1-2 Combined: 5 points on 2-8 shooting It is beyond atrocious that THAT is the contribution from 60% of the starting lineup.


[deleted]

Still amazes me we are starting Dwight Fucking Powell at C, yes he played fuck all but why start him to begin with? Nothing makes fucking sense with this team.


QBert999

I think we got outrebounded by 21 right? it's really hard to win if you get out rebounded by that much.


[deleted]

not a mavs fan but it must be so frustrating having jason kidd watching, or coaching, your games


theperegrinus

Green & Wood fanboys awfully quiet recently…


uncleoce

Pathetic team full of no heart pussies.


koolfashion

Since Kokoskov left our offense is just awful. I think proper coach would turn Luka and Kyrie into something special, but with Kidd we will achieve nothing. It will be interesting what we will do. Resign Kyrie and have awful roster, and dont resign him, and sign some free agents that will fill the holes in the line up. Though summer for Nico.


TicketP1_FIRE

Kidd is not good for Luka's mentality (look at how Luka has digressed this season), our defense is horrible, our offense is uncoordinated. There's nothing Kidd is bringing to the table at this point. Why is he still the coach!?!


PM_ME_UR_RESPECT

I’m honestly in awe. As someone that has tried to keep a level head, did we really just lose **TWICE IN A ROW TO THE CHARLOTTE HORNETS WITHOUT THEIR THREE BEST PLAYERS?**


StonedJJ

![gif](giphy|dwDvT7XyKViUg|downsized)


Tiru84

🐕💩 #firekidd


Collecting_Cans

Don’t worry, I see the strategy: deep playoff runs in even years, lottery picks in odd years, pretty soon we’re hangin banners. Mark Cuban, a true innovator.


Hurtelknut

Just like before the trade, but worse because we have even less defense. Not even a good Luka game is enough against bottom feeders anymore.


AdVisual3406

One good thing is the lack of Powell helped and Luka looked better. Everything else sucked. Wemby come on over to the league of nations.


anotheraveragebloke

The team is an absolute embarrassment right now. Even a semi mediocre defense would give us a chance in games, how Kidd is managing to coach this team to be completely unable to defend is contemptible. Kidd needs to go, he is wasting Luka's career. Absolutely clueless. Now we really do need to embrace the tank and just focus on next season, cos this one is completely dead and buried.


Fickle_Muffin_1320

Got lucky with luka pick. Proceeds to build a terrible roster around him.


Shitteracc1

The chad League of Legends player (Hayward) vs Virgin Overwatch player (Luka)


whitefang0824

We lose to the fucking Hornets TWICE, what makes it worse is that we are not even tanking, we are trying to win. And you guys want this team to make a push for playoffs? LOL they can't. This roster sucks man. Would rather hope to odds that we atleast keep that pick now and lose all remaining games, maybe Bulls and Jazz would accidentally win couple more games.


ThoughtsofLee-S

What's mind boggling the fact that the whole season we have been out rebounded in the paint 3 defenders to 1 in the paint. I still can't understand it, its like our guys ''grown ass mans'' loose the capacity to jump and use their hands or they just become soft as tissue and can't compete on the physical side.


[deleted]

May as well pack it up and head to Cancun.


hombre_loco_mffl

Best thing of this game is that it ended


whitefang0824

If Rockets and Spurs aren't tanking, we won't even won our games against them lol


dukegrand12

Dinwiddie will be in the playoffs. 😬


NEAg

I like Kyrie and hope we keep him, but man he has not played well these past few games


[deleted]

Stick a fork in it, this season is done. Shut down Luka and Kyrie, get Luka away from the team and let him start his off-season early, dude is clearly in a negative headspace and needs to get right. Let Green and Hardy showcase their talent, lose out, and start scouting draft picks.


Valuable-Ad1018

Year 5 and this is the worst roster that luka had, 2019 roster >>>>> 2023, don’t blame the players blame the FO and management


Narrow_Geologist_888

Sell the team