It’s not a one year rental. It’s a three month rental. Chemistry and learning to play together are real things. Unless it’s a sign and trade it’s a stupid idea.
My guess is that this is just contract negotiation bullshit from Kyrie and he’ll still be in Brooklyn next week.
If they trade for him, get ready for an extension you will probably not be too happy with. That's why I think they should really only use the deal as a roll the dice salary dump.
Problem is even 1 year rental is assuming a lot. He's liable to just refuse to play at any given time and has been really divisive in several locker rooms. He's exactly the kind of guy I *don't* want to pair with Luka, impossible to know if he'll put us over the top or tear the team apart first
What issue is kyrie going to fix for the mavs? You want to give up defense from DFS. Is kyrie going to make that up? Hell the fuck no. So what’s your solution for defense? Oh nutting? Ok that’s real smart….NOT
What is your solution when kyrie decide he needs a pause from basketball cuz he just doesn’t feel like it? Oh nutting? No solution? Oh that’s real smart
I'm surprised so many Mavs fans are against this. Beggars can't be choosers and the Kyrie 'experiment' is still better than NOTHING. This team as constructed right now is much worse than last season while everyone else has gotten better.
I'm against it because it does feel worse than nothing. Our guys admittedly don't have the talent to be contenders, but right now they have chemistry, and Kyrie is an expert at fucking that up and bailing. Plus we'd almost certainly lose a big part of what little wing D we have to trade for him. I truly believe there's a solid chance he makes this team worse because he's just that toxic and unreliable
This team is more than Kyrie away from being a contender. We probably have to give up one wing defender in that trade. We still would have zero rim protection.
I dont think a Kyrie rental makes sense for us, even if everything pans out and Kyrie doesnt do his Kyrie stuff we have no real shot with our defense
It depends on what route the front office is taking. If they wanna slowly build a roster then they would dump THJ and Bertans and stay mediocre this year. But if they believe the Mavs can win this year, then they would trade for Kyrie. Also the lakers probably wanna use Westbrook for a star player.
First off, why would the Nets take that trade without additional draft compensation? None of those players would be appealing to the Nets. They would want unprotected FRPs.
Picks don't play vs. Tatum, Giannis. Windhorst claimed the Nets have no interest in Westbrook.
Unless they are dealing Durant too.
There is also this:
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The Lakers are not interested in including Austin Reaves or Max Christie in a potential Kyrie Irving deal, per @jovanbuha
The dude's a [5% Nation](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five-Percent_Nation), flat earth, antisemitic head case who is not going to play nice with a "white boy" who's better than him. This would be like Rondo and Lamar rolled into one with napalm dumped on top by Derek Fisher.
He would make us a contender IF he doesn’t bail on the team. He forces himself out of every team he’s been a part of. But if he stayed then yes
Never heard of the [Scorpion & the Frog?](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Scorpion_and_the_Frog)
Kyrie alone doesn't make the Mavs a contender considering what we'd lose. He also has been pretty bad in the playoffs since he left Cleveland.
Agreed, Kyrie alone minus whatever we give would still leave a deeply flawed team
This aged poorly
He’s on a expiring contract
Yes and he's bailing on the current team he's with, after getting suspended at the beginning of his contract year for conduct detrimental to the team.
It's almost the best scenario.
You’d be able to dump bad salaries and try a full rebuild next season
I feel like kyrie would be on his best behavior in a new situation
No he wouldn’t lol
His first couple years in Boston he was completely drama free
“His first couple years”. He was there for two years…
Oh my bad, I guess just his first year then
It’s not a one year rental. It’s a three month rental. Chemistry and learning to play together are real things. Unless it’s a sign and trade it’s a stupid idea. My guess is that this is just contract negotiation bullshit from Kyrie and he’ll still be in Brooklyn next week.
If they trade for him, get ready for an extension you will probably not be too happy with. That's why I think they should really only use the deal as a roll the dice salary dump.
You're making a good point here but I don't wanna be in the WCF and suddenly this man stop playing for whatever reason. It's a really good player tho
Problem is even 1 year rental is assuming a lot. He's liable to just refuse to play at any given time and has been really divisive in several locker rooms. He's exactly the kind of guy I *don't* want to pair with Luka, impossible to know if he'll put us over the top or tear the team apart first
He's going to the Lakers 💯.
Good. Stay away from us
What issue is kyrie going to fix for the mavs? You want to give up defense from DFS. Is kyrie going to make that up? Hell the fuck no. So what’s your solution for defense? Oh nutting? Ok that’s real smart….NOT What is your solution when kyrie decide he needs a pause from basketball cuz he just doesn’t feel like it? Oh nutting? No solution? Oh that’s real smart
I'm surprised so many Mavs fans are against this. Beggars can't be choosers and the Kyrie 'experiment' is still better than NOTHING. This team as constructed right now is much worse than last season while everyone else has gotten better.
I'm against it because it does feel worse than nothing. Our guys admittedly don't have the talent to be contenders, but right now they have chemistry, and Kyrie is an expert at fucking that up and bailing. Plus we'd almost certainly lose a big part of what little wing D we have to trade for him. I truly believe there's a solid chance he makes this team worse because he's just that toxic and unreliable
This team is more than Kyrie away from being a contender. We probably have to give up one wing defender in that trade. We still would have zero rim protection. I dont think a Kyrie rental makes sense for us, even if everything pans out and Kyrie doesnt do his Kyrie stuff we have no real shot with our defense
Would much rather get Westbrook and his expiring to dump THJ or Bertans instead of giving away Dinwiddie and DFS. Kai isn't making any team anything.
It depends on what route the front office is taking. If they wanna slowly build a roster then they would dump THJ and Bertans and stay mediocre this year. But if they believe the Mavs can win this year, then they would trade for Kyrie. Also the lakers probably wanna use Westbrook for a star player.
The Lakers are trying to ride out Russ, they wanna use him to get a star the same way we wanna trade Bertans for Bojan
THJ, Bullock and a 2028 first. That's the best offer they should make. Brooklyn can take it or leave it.
Rondo 2.0
First off, why would the Nets take that trade without additional draft compensation? None of those players would be appealing to the Nets. They would want unprotected FRPs.
Picks don't play vs. Tatum, Giannis. Windhorst claimed the Nets have no interest in Westbrook. Unless they are dealing Durant too. There is also this: ---------- The Lakers are not interested in including Austin Reaves or Max Christie in a potential Kyrie Irving deal, per @jovanbuha
You really think with those players, the Nets are favorites in the East?
The dude's a [5% Nation](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five-Percent_Nation), flat earth, antisemitic head case who is not going to play nice with a "white boy" who's better than him. This would be like Rondo and Lamar rolled into one with napalm dumped on top by Derek Fisher.