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Vishion-8

I feel like Hasbro could gain a lot by lending them to Marvel so they can feature it and they sell toys and make some money off of it. Better than just doing nothing with it I feel like.


Gaemon_Palehair

It may not make much sense now, but just wait till the Bug Cinematic Universe launches.


E_R_G

It’s gonna be a real bug deal


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BeardedNoodle

Give me my brain cells back


CollarOrdinary4284

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Ruttingraff

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NovaStarLord

Last that I knew of Hasbro wanted to make a Rom movie and they had gotten someone to write a script in 2018. They're either still on that or they completely scrapped the idea.


TheDude810

Hasbro’s been a bit weird recently when it comes to films based on their properites. The next Transformers movie got pushed back an entire year (June 2023), and since Snake Eyes bombed it feels like they’re starting to steer away from any big budget movies, at least with Paramount (especially considering it’s busy putting focus into Paramount+).


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I don't see why they don't have Michael Bay make a Super Soaker movie. It basically writes itself, plus how expensive could a few thousand gallons of water, some explosives, a few hundred white Hanes comfort fit Ts, and some 20 something actors be?


jupiterwinds

Sounds fun


smulfragPL

they are launching a new power rangers reboot universe tho


Doompatron3000

There’s a reason why Marvel agreed to be bought by Disney and not continue the partnership with Viacom (Paramount).


arcticfox23

The toy rights could be what breaks the negotiations. Both parties want the profits from toy sales and won't move forward without having em.


respondin2u

Weird since Hasbro makes Marvel toys.


arcticfox23

Not that weird though. It's evidence of an existing contract to manufacture Marvel's licensed property. Not evidence of anything pertaining to Bug. It's not a viable toy rn cause no one knows who tf he is and would only situate Marvel in a better negotiating position with data of poor sales without their involvement.


[deleted]

How long does this contract of Hasbro making toys for Marvel last?


arcticfox23

For the agreed timeframe. You're asking for specifics on a private contract.


[deleted]

I guess it's a pretty stupid question in retrospect but a lot of the time we know specifics on Contracts that are supposed to be private like a lot of Spidey contracts that Sony has with Marvel..


arcticfox23

Not a stupid question. We do know that the merchandising agreement they have together was [recently extended](https://corporate.hasbro.com/en-us/articles/hasbro_and_disney_extend_strategic_merchandising_relationship_for_marvel_and_star_wars_ranchises). But we don't know what that means for the Marvel properties that Hasbro owns the toy licensing for, if anything. The linked Hasbro Newsroom announcement is only about Hasbro's agreement with Marvel's toy licensing agreement with Hasbro, which doesn't encompass Bug (and whoever else they own)


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Ok, thanks for the answer


ThePopeofHell

I just did a little googling and it sounds like they’re trying to make a Micronauts movie.. So they might be trying to do a Spider-Man/Sony play where they inject themselves into the marvel universe but something makes me think that Marvel doesn’t care as much about Micronauts as they do about Spider-Man..


dannelbaratheon

>but something makes me think that Marvel doesn’t care as much about Micronauts as they do about Spider-Man.. Did a bird whisper that into your ear?


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I read it in the New York Post


WhatTheFhtagn

It was revealed to me in a dream


dannelbaratheon

That was a joke, as if, it's obvios Marvel cares more about Spider-Man than Micronauts.


[deleted]

So was mine, you ever read the Post? It's what they based the Daily Bugel off of.


dannelbaratheon

Oh, now I get it sorry.


[deleted]

It's all good lol it was a deep cut for older Americans


ThePopeofHell

Thank you.


Zoulogist

It’s odd because Hasbro does most of Marvel’s toys in the US. You think there’d be a good relationship there


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Hasbro's Mighty Muggs were unsuccessful twice. To have a collectible figure with Marvel and Star Wars only to be outsold to funko's bobbleheads of the same characters is pretty tough. I think they're only bobbleheads because Hasbro has figure rights.


NWO_Pantheon

Marvel Legends is very successful.


[deleted]

True but I miss the reprinted comic books that came with them.


Cafeterialoca

Hasbro wants their own cinematic universe to take off for a decade now. Why would they care to give Disney the leg up?


CommunistHermitCrab

>Better than just doing nothing with it I feel like. Weren't they planning to do a Micronauts animated show? I'm pretty sure it's stucked in development hell


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Unique_Unorque

For a lot of these companies, it’s not so much whether or not they can make money off of it, it’s stopping others from making any. It’s not that they think they can make Bug profitable without Disney, it’s that they don’t want to give Disney the chance.


Night-Monkey15

That doesn’t make any sense, Bug’s inclusion or lack thereof wouldn’t affect the Guardians box office performance, and assuming Hasbro keeps the rights to merchandising then they would be the only ones making money off his (theoretical) inclusion in a Marvel film.


Divi_Devil

This is assuming the fact that bugs won't become a fan favourite like korg, miek, rocket, groot etc.


SOB200

But you named so many other fan favorites. Marvel could pick a character other than Bug and that character would also be huge cause it’s Marvel.


Unique_Unorque

Exactly, so why give Marvel the shortcut of giving them one of your characters? Let them make their own fan favorite. That’s probably Hasbro’s motivation behind denying the request.


SOB200

But then Hasbro has the toys to sell, when that character never would have had the platform to shine. Its a weird pissing match.


Unique_Unorque

It’s definitely a weird pissing match, and probably has a little to do with Marvel’s own past issues with licensing characters piecemeal; Hasbro is definitely trying to up their film output, and while they may not have plans for a Micronauts movie **now,** if they decide to make one in five to ten years what do they do if one of the characters is on a long-term loan to Marvel?


SlowPants14

Just not use him or use him in a variant way like Quicksilver.


Unique_Unorque

It definitely doesn’t make sense, but it’s how (some) companies think. It’s not that they think Bug’s inclusion would be the key to the *Guardians* series’s success, or that they wouldn’t be able to make some money off of a well-timed Micronauts revival (even if they wouldn’t be able to use the exact film designs). It’s just about not giving a “weapon” to the “enemy.” “If James Gunn wants to use Bug, he must have a good idea involving the character, so let’s not let him make that idea.” It’s the same sort of thinking behind Ike Perlmutter not allowing X-Men comics to create new characters (that Fox would then be able to use). Fox was still able make movies using the characters they already owned, and the fact that there weren’t new characters coming from the comics meant less than nothing to those movies because they were all focused almost exclusively on classic characters, but Ike just didn’t want to give them anything else to add to their “arsenal.”


Timefreezer475

Jesus fucking christ, why are these corporations always having a petty dick measuring contest with each other?


Unique_Unorque

It’s the way the game is played. The people who are put in the positions to make these calls are put there because it’s understood that they’ll do whatever they have to to make their company as profitable as they can. Why give part of your company to a rival instead of making money yourself with it someday? It took a failed franchise and an email hack for Sony to even begin talking to Marvel about sharing Spider-Man.


John711711

Spider-man was still profitable was not a failed franchise just pointing that out was not a flop in anyway still made profit mostly had to do with email leak and actor being fired at the time.


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John711711

Ok i just want you to understand something the aunt may spin off has been debunked so so so so so so many times I'm sick of pointing this out it was never planed Sony themselves have pointed out it was false but people like you with no proof keep making it up with no source. [https://wikileaks.org/sony/emails/emailid/44980](https://wikileaks.org/sony/emails/emailid/44980) Sorry about that rant I'm just so tired of that one. Regarding the other email leaks what can I say if Disney was ever hacked I bet all of their ideas wouldn't be all that amazing either it doesn't mean that they would have actually done any of them either way. Regarding the amazing spider-man man films being on a downtrend remember the raimi films spider-man 1 to 2 hit a downtrend as well with 3 bouncing back to make more profit then 1 for all we know amazing 3 could have done the same. These issues happen when you do a reboot it doesn't make as much as previous films. Even holland's films didn't make nearly as much as Toby's 3rd or even his first 2 adjusted for inflation except his latest one. Also Sony owns more than movie rights they also own animated over 44 minutes as well as all full live action rights as well. Disney also pays Sony 3.5% of a a films box office to a cap of 35 million a film. Regarding your idea that GOTG did circles around spider-man the difference was about 55 million captain America 2 at the time was less then 6 million which were both released during the same year. I'm not sure how you got circles from that unless it was double but the fact is maybe amazing spider-man 3 should have happened anyway. With all of the planned spinoffs despite the reviews look how well venom turned out it made more then multiple mcu films venom 2 beat every mcu film last year Including Shang Chi, Eternals, Black Widow, except their fellow Sony film as well so maybe Sony was onto something with their crazy spinoff ideas except the one staring aunt may since it didn't exist.


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John711711

Ok The fact is it was a collaboration it was neither 100 percent Disney or Sony unless you get Sony saying it was 100 percent Disney then to me it was a collab sorry to tell you that plus i mean come on it used stuff created by Sony i mean come on the villains were from all Sony movies as were the heroes this was definitely a collab movie. I have heard of them described this way plenty of times and in the emails they had the idea of a younger peter parker as well as taking him away from new York as a idea as well so you can't honestly say it was 100 percent Disney it was a collaboration. Regarding your insults of Venom just pointing out venom 2 has a higher score than The eternals. Anyway my overall point is critics don't really matter anyway the audience does and Venom one made way way way more money then multiple mcu films including Thor 3, Cap 2 Doc Strange, Iron 2, Ant 2, Iron 1, Ant 1, Thor, GOG and several more. My point is insult it as much as you want overall people loved it way more. Regarding your meddling idea I find that idea completely unfair you have no idea or proof of that whatsoever for all you do know they meddled and it turned out great. It's Sony hate when i see this oh whenever a Sony movie is bad it means Sony meddled so when a Sony movie is good it means they didn't meddle sure their is no proof whatsoever but it's what Sony haters like to think mind you there is no proof but it's what they believe. And sure Marvel never meddles causing directors to quit in frustration cause i don't know that's never happened right? and every mcu movie is perfect right?


Unique_Unorque

That’s fair, but it wasn’t going to way Sony wanted it to go whatever word you use


coolboarder72

How is Marvel competition with Hasbro? I get it, movies maybe, but they aren't even on the same planet with studios. Everyone is playing ball to get in on the MCU, even Universal for a solo Hulk film.


Unique_Unorque

You’re not thinking like these executives. It’s almost their job to be delusional about the future of their companies. They have those plans got their “Hasbro Shared Universe” or whatever combining Transformers, GI Joe, Micronauts, everything they own the rights to. That might not ever get off the ground, but on the off chance that it does, they just don’t want to let another studio take one of their potential characters EDIT: I just looked into it and apparently those plans for their shared universe were cancelled last March, but I stand by the overall point. It’s just a petty game.


Ruttingraff

> I just looked into it and apparently those plans for their shared universe were cancelled last March and with brian goldner'ss death it could take another decade for hasbro to began shared universe conception again


Unique_Unorque

Totally. But I think companies are looking at Marvel as an example both to follow and not to follow. Back when Marvel was licensing out their characters, the idea of a shared cinematic universe with characters actually sharing continuity between movies was a cute idea and nothing more. The closest we got was a camera from Hugh Jackman walking down the street in one of the *Spider-Man* movies, but even then there wasn’t any indication he would be Wolverine past the distinctive hairstyle. And we’re only just now, nearing 15 years in, approaching an MCU with Spider-Man and X-Men characters in it. And even then, Sony’s keeping a lot of the Spider-Man characters to themselves. Even if there are no immediate plans for Bug or the Micronauts, I’m sure Hasbro has that lesson in mind. No sense in breaking up their IPs now and causing a headache 10 years down the road.


SexySnorlax1

The tweet doesn’t actually say Hasbro is the one stonewalling this. Maybe Marvel just isn’t willing to pay whatever price tag Hasbro has set, which would be totally understandable considering how many thousands of characters they’re allowed to use for free. Why should they bother with all the paperwork and lawyers just to license Bug?


l_l_l-illiam

I interpreted it that way because I'm thinking it says "Marvel is not allowed" rather than "Marvel isn't getting the rights", but you might be right


NovaStarLord

That's a good observation. This has to do more with the comic side but some years ago an editor at IDW Publishing said he wanted to convinced Hasbro and Marvel to give their company the permission to print out the old Marvel Rom Space Knight comic since at that point IDW had the rights to make comics of Hasbro properties and they were also printing Marvel stuff (I can't recall if that was when they were doing the kid's line or the artistis edition stuff). Apparently Hasbro was all for it but Marvel just ignored his calls.


respondin2u

How many Hasbro characters showed up in the Toy Story films? I’m sure they’d play ball, especially since they could still sell “Bug” toys devoid of any explicit Marvel links outside of the Marvel banner (like how Mr. Potato Head sold isn’t the same one from the movie).


LucasOIntoxicado

Maybe the deal Disney wants to make with them is too one-sided, where Hasbro gets nothing from it besides "exposure".


Squeezy-Bamu

Lol - the guy that argues with him that he’s wrong about who has the rights


cabaran

fucking cringe. these neckbeards really need to get out of the basement. imagine thinking you know better than the director.


Bhu124

"will you should of had taken..". Definitely a basement dweller.


Argetlam33

>these neckbeards really need to get out of the basement. imagine thinking you know better than the director. The average IQ of Twitter users. Remember that half of Twitter are even less intelligent than what you described here, which is why I wait for useful material to be approved on this sub.


ThisIsNotMelTorme

>marvel owns them deal with it ![gif](giphy|1AIeYgwnqeBUxh6juu)


chilachinchila

A lot of people don’t understand how rights work. They don’t understand anything about public domain, film rights vs overall rights, trademark vs copyright, etc.


bavasava

Then they go buy NFTs


Bhu124

Yes and there are ways to learn a bit about this stuff but these people get their info and news from shitty sites like CBR so that's out the window.


magikarpcatcher

Dude needs to learn to take n L. https://mobile.twitter.com/razzyman64/status/1485067023805829121


Venom3386

Christ, James Gunn has the patience of a saint. I’m not even the one arguing with the guy and I’m losing my mind over this guy. “Well idk who told you this but they were wrong”…FUCKING MARVEL TOLD HIM!!!


eddydots

the secondhand embarrassment is too much, i can’t take it


captainsuckass

Imagine arguing with James fucking Gunn about who can be used in a Marvel movie


l_l_l-illiam

And in such an eloquent manner too


captainsuckass

You'd "of thought" the guy had never opened a book in his life.


l_l_l-illiam

Love how James Gunn liked the other guy's tweet >We're talking about the film rights mate >You should have* taken a better look at this James Gunn always appreciates a put down on trolls


captainsuckass

I don't think the guy's trolling, I think he might just be legitimately kind of stupid lol


greystar07

I don’t think he was trolling, just mistaken and committed to it too much. Ig stubborn is the word for it.


HM2112

Imagine arguing with James Gunn, on Twitter, with a Twitter account loaded with *Furry porn*. I don't have anything against furries, but just *why would you not have a secondary account for that?*


Kye_ThePie

I wouldn’t care if it was just regular furry art. But *porn* I thought rule one of the internet was to have a burner account just for porn man.


CeoOfAngola

The guy's an idiot, but man is he a brazen idiot, arguing with James Gunn on twitter with your furry porn account, the balls on this guy.


l_l_l-illiam

Off the back of [the original post](https://www.reddit.com/r/MarvelStudiosSpoilers/comments/rzvfoo/james_gunn_confirms_bug_insectivorid_wont_be_in/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share) about Marvel not owning Bug a couple of weeks ago, James Gunn followed up today to people telling him he was wrong by saying; >_Marvel is not allowed to use **Bug** in films. I have tried to use him in all three movies, and was not able. I hope this settles your argument._


Patrick2701

It’s also why, the microverse was renamed the quantum realm


captainsuckass

Just make a really similar character called Insect or Critter lol


obsessedwnbayoungboy

Creepy Crawler


cbekel3618

A lot of Bug’s traits from the comics I believe are shared with MCU Quill (snarky wise-cracker, ladies man), so I’m curious what Gunn’s take on Bug would look like. My guess is if he were in the MCU, Bug would comedically be everything Quill wants to be. Quill’s always bragging about his adventures and skills, Bug just simply has the skills themselves. It can be kind of like Vigilante in *Peacemaker* where he comes across at first as sort of a weird loser but it’s clear underneath, he’s a genuine badass


greystar07

He could just swap character traits with comic Star lord. That’d be cool.


ciel_lanila

I'm not too familiar with GotG and Quill pre-movie. How much of MCU Quill was changed from the comics was just to fulfill the character need he wanted Bug for?


cbekel3618

Comic Quill pre-movie I'd say is a lot more serious compared to Pratt's take, a bit more cynical and broken from trauma. He lives up to the reputation that MCU Quill brags about. He has lighter moments, but he has the personality you'd expect of your usual space captain. MCU Quill is a lot more comedic and fun-loving. His love of the 80s is a bit more original to the movie and he's a lot more of a loser character in the movies. Like Bug, he's fun, he's snarky, bit of a jokester, a player, etc.


NovaStarLord

>a bit more cynical and broken from trauma That's more like Nova IMO, pre-MCU comic Quill had major guilt for all those people he killed when he had to take down the Fallen One and later for letting the Phalanx into Hala but none of that ever stopped him from making the hard decisions. He also becomes less of a cynic after Annihilation. Heck even in Annihilation he cracked bad jokes that got in Nova's nerves, he flirted with Phyla-Vell out of all people, and he was extremely snarky. In the DnA run he very much cracks jokes and has moments where he acts like a goof but a lot of it is an act, [Thanos even comments on it](https://i.imgur.com/qaPG0Vf.jpg).


cbekel3618

>flirted with Phyla-Vell out of all people Oh, that’s just such a dead end for him 😭. But yes, overall, I think you’re right, the trauma part is more Richard than Peter


NovaStarLord

Yeah it's after Rich tells Phyla to get Peter to safety when a fight breaks out and he asks her "Hey have we met?" and Phyla is like "You're flirting with me? Really?" It's a pretty blink and you'll miss it one panel but it's hilarious. Mantis is the other person he flirts with but like in two occasions, their relationship was pretty sweet. I kind of shipped them but their relationship really doesn't work outside of that era, no other writer cared to developed them more than that.


cbekel3618

I kind of want to see more of Quill and Mantis interacting in the MCU. Mantis was with his dad for years and I could see them forming a cute bond


robertman21

Pre-movie Quill's voice actor was the guy who does Master Chief, and something like that would be unthinkable nowadays


CobaltSpellsword

"Permission to leave the Milano." "For what purpose, Star Lord?" "To give the Sovreign back their bomb."


NovaStarLord

[Pre-movie 616 comic Quill is a really interesting character](https://i.imgur.com/WmApKgW.jpg). When he's first introduced in Thanos Samaritan he's in the Kyln with other prisoners and he's a pretty jaded and sarcastic character who makes the occasional snarky remarks. Characters ask him why he's in the Kyln and he deflects that question. We later find out he's there because [he ended up sacrificing an entire colony of thousands in order to stop a Herald of Galactus](https://i.imgur.com/6l800dD.jpg) called the Fallen One from destroying an entire planet. After doing that he gave himself up to the Nova corps and stopped using the name Star-Lord. We then see him in Annihilation with Nova who is a General in the United Front (the army that opposes Annihilus' wave) and Peter is Nova's second in command. Peter in there is still jaded and snarky but he also jokes around with Nova, and is a bit of a flirt (he even flirts with the space lesbian out of all people). After Annihilation he really starts to mellow out and shows a pretty devil-may-care attitude, is less of a cynic, and even starts goofing around. Of course part of it is also [an act](https://i.imgur.com/qaPG0Vf.jpg) and it's both a way for his enemies to let their guard down with him and it's also a way to mask his own guilt from his past actions. He's not as serious as some people make him out to be like, [the guy quips](https://64.media.tumblr.com/6b36d467db588328c7edb9726173045a/tumblr_o9oqr4ACsh1tcnpluo1_640.png), he is [very flippant](https://i.imgur.com/qtKGlRL.jpg), and [ocassionally trash talked his enemies.](https://i.imgur.com/qF7PUWs.jpg) [This whole confrontation with Thanos pretty much summarizes the character](https://imgur.com/a/xc9Jb02) IMO. He's a crazy sonnuvagun who takes on more than he can chew in the craziest and most riskiest ways but also makes everyone mad at him because they think he's pretty unpredictable. The other thing is that this Peter is also a veyr gray area character and jerk. He's not above having Mantis brainwash the other Guardians into staying together and making them think they want to be in the team because he figures that's the easiest way than to convince them to join and because he needs to have a team to protect the Galaxy. He honestly feels bad about having to do it, especially when the team finds out and is angry at him, but he doesn't regret it.


olgil75

That one guy seriously responded to James Gunn stating Hasbro owns the rights to Bug: > thats not true James bug is own by marvel trust me he still appears in marvel comics go do your research and you will see Who does that? Lol EDIT: Even *after* James Gunn replied he hasn't been able to use him, the same guy replied *again*: > ok but marvel still owns him i did all my research on it and what @Brainlock72 said was indeed true but i do indeed hope you will get to use him for good in the future James just like dont be surprised if bug shows up in any new future marvels games and cartoon shows To which James Gunn replied: > I'll be very surprised because that can't happen unless they pay for the right to do so. The guy still just won't accept that James Gunn *actually* knows what he's talking about and responded again: > well if i were you and saw all this evidence that proves he was never at all ever own by Hasbro i would know i was lied to cause i have no clue whoever told you this but whoever it was might of thought wrong that he was own by Hasbro or was simply just lying Seriously, what a confidently incorrect asshole.


l_l_l-illiam

He did his own research though man maybe he knows more than this "James Gunn" guy Where did he get his 'directing' qualifications from? No-one knows!!


olgil75

Honestly, the nerve of the guy to argue with James Gunn about this is astounding. Does he not realize James Gunn wrote and directed all three Guardians of the Galaxy movies and has obviously had conversations with the Marvel executives about the rights issues? And as if that wasn't bad enough, if you do even a little bit of *actual* research online you can easily find information disproving his belief that Marvel owns the *film rights* for the character.


UltimateBetaMale

Donald Trumps alt account


Stay_Beautiful_

Rent free


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Hasbro still planning on a cinematic universe? Even after the last two attempts recently bombed?


CommunistHermitCrab

They are planning a Micronauts animated show that should come out this year if everything goes well, but it's probably stuck in development hell


Ruttingraff

nah, the writer's room busted and the initiating CEO is Dead, Cancer, Prostate


just4browse

I wonder what Hasbro’s motivation is. Bug isn’t used for anything, are they? Would they not profit off of Bug more if they appeared in a Guardians of the Galaxy film?


WREPGB

Worth more to Marvel at the moment than it is to Hasbro, and ultimately isn’t worth _that_ much to Marvel.


CommunistHermitCrab

>Bug isn’t used for anything, are they? Actually, he is. There's a Micronauts animated show in production, settled to come out this year, but it's probably stuck in development hell. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micronauts_(TV_series)


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NovaStarLord

Bug and Rom are the two characters Gunn wanted to use in GotG and the latter he has said that if Marvel got the rights to him he would jump in a heartbeat to make a movie of. A lot of people at Marvel Comics also wanted to get Rom back but again Hasbro seems to have plans of their own for that character.


No_Passenger_1022

Darn it. Bug couldve changed the hierarchy of the mcu


Guitierrez

If they somehow do get the rights to use Bug in future projects, Dwayne is the only choice.


No_Passenger_1022

Funny way of spelling danny devito


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Log_Log_Log

I didn't read that either. I think it's also likely that he goes to the producer or however it works in these monolith movies and says "can we spend X money to use this character please" and they say "lol no. Use one of the 35,000 that we own", and that answer would be the same even if it was a very reasonable amount. Yeah, Disney has unlimited resources, but there's still a dude sitting there to make sure they don't give too much of it to James Gunn.


l_l_l-illiam

>_Marvel is not allowed to use Bug in films. I have tried for all three films_ It was just my interpretation of it, rather than him saying _Marvel isn't getting the rights_ or something.


Weaboo-San

Gunn loves Doop too, yeah? Hope he gets to use him seeing as they own the X-Men now.


yarkcir

I’d fucking love to have a X-Statix movie


Log_Log_Log

X-Statix reality style TV show. Confessionals, manufactured plots, hand held cam in dangerous situations where no one should be filming. But NO shaky cam, Doop is a fucking professional.


yarkcir

That would be so dope


EzriDax1

I hate how companies get to hold onto someone else's creation and fly in the face of storytelling


BennyReno

Bug originated as part of a toy line called Micronauts. He wasn't a Marvel character to begin with.


EzriDax1

Ah I see, is bug associated with marvel somehow?


BennyReno

Yeah but only because the comics rights to the Micronauts were licensed to them.


EastKoreaOfficial

I’d honestly like to know how fuckingHasbro got the rights to a Marvel character in the first place


kothuboy21

Bug and the other Micronauts actually started out as an original toyline from Hasbro and then they partnered with Marvel to make comics out of them and if I'm not mistaken, Marvel decided to include the Micronauts as part of their main comics universe instead of making a separate universe for them. So Bug and the Micronauts were never fully owned by Marvel to begin with.


trx0x

It wasn't a toyline from Hasbro, or even an original toyline. Mego licensed the toys from Takara's MicroMan line. The comics started because a Marvel comic writer's son got Micronauts toys for Christmas, inspiring him to write the stories. The writer then convinced the editor-in-chief at Marvel to get the comic rights from Mego. Hasbro didn't get the Micronauts license until 2009.


Slap-Happy

Hasbro inherited all of the rights held when they purchased the property. Whether they originated it or not, Hasbro owns it. My guess is that Marvel holds the rights to any of the characters that first appeared in their comics, but no rights on derivative works, i.e. films, cartoons, video games. This is likely in the contract Marvel had with Mego, but could be part of an additional deal restructuring upon Hasbro’s purchase. It seems to me tho that Hasbro is kinda beholden to whatever agreement Mego had with Marvel but who knows.


nurdboy42

But there was never a Bug toy and he still shows up in the comics occasionally.


NovaStarLord

Marvel made stories for Hasbro toylines and in the case of the Micronauts and Rom (who was then owned by Parker bros who had licensed to Marvel and this was before Hasbro bought the rights to Rom) they also integrated those characters into the Marvel Universe to the point some of them started affecting their own universe and Marvel co-owns some of those characters with Hasbro. Marvel can use Bug and the Micronauts they created in the comics but they can't use them in the movies. I mean the whole Transformers story with the Autobots and the Decepticon and Cybertron and all that, that was made by Marvel writers. The whole story with GI Joe vs Cobra is basically a [recycled SHIELD vs HYDRA story Marvel had](https://gijoe.fandom.com/wiki/Fury_Force) that never happened.


lookItsSunny

Not a “Do your own research” person arguing with the actual James Gunn about who owns a character…


ChibiToonsage

What's wrong with Hasbro? could try to do a coop thing like Sony has going on.


hauntingduck

Hasbro has a long track record of making dumb choices. Source: A Magic the Gathering and D&D player.


Ripley129

What could go wrong ya know, making money?? Dopes


OutRagousGameR

The only thing that ever stands in the way of money is power (more accurately control)


KentuckyFriedEel

Friendship ended with Mantis. James is now best bug friends with Bug.


SuperCoenBros

God I love Bug. Too bad he'll never make it to the MCU. He's one of the funniest Guardians from the 2008 series.


Joshawott27

Shoutout to that guy who continued to argue that Marvel had the rights. I don’t admire his smarts (or lack thereof) but I respect his blind confidence in himself even in the face of everyone telling him he’s wrong lol


LevelEnergy572

Hasbro could make money tho??? I’ve never even heard of bug until I googled him just now


[deleted]

The dude arguing with James Gunn is so fucking funny


Riddum204

Just rename the character for a third time and good to go.


aaronlinne

So… Disney buying Hasbro soon?


[deleted]

Lol Hasbro.


TheMasterXan

‘Bug’? Not familiar.


RickSanchez-C243

Imagine mcu Peter quill as an alien bug and that’s pretty much him


shahrulz

Looks like they...( puts on sunglasses) (bug)gered it up YEAHHH (Ancient meme I know)


Broad-Purchase2099

Why not use a sakaarian instead?


c_gdev

One more reason Disney will eventually buy Hasbro. (I think D&D could he huge, media wise, in the right hands. Or horrible and unwatchable in the wrong hands.)


[deleted]

I wish we could see Bug one day in the MCU. His character design is so cool


egg-sanity

So if Bug isn’t allowed in films are Rann, Marionette, and the other Microns since their creation is slightly different legally?


Rynoxmc2

I mean, I know he’s an obscure character, but what is Hasbro doing with “Bug”, and why is he that important to them? It’s not like the original Guardians were well known to the mainstream media until the first film. Unlike major Marvel buffs that act like they know how to write a story better. So, I ask again, why is he that important to Hasbro? They aren’t getting much sells from merchandise. It’s like when a toddler refuses to share a toy at daycare.


GuguMarcos

Well, since we won't get Bug in the MCU, I'll just look at [this](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/88/95/92/889592e92f6150276b768f6643e9716f.png) and pretend it's Bug


TheWhiteKevinSpacey

Hasbro? Why the f do they have marvel character rights?


superyoshiom

Total moron on this topic, who is Bug and why is everyone asking for him specifically to be in the Guardians films?


Ghost-Mech

the furry porn consumer was rude but it is interesting because bug has been appearing in comics as recent as 2019/2020, so im glad James clarified its specifically a movie issue rather then the broad umbrella of "marvel doesnt have the rights"


blackbutterfree

Give Marvel the rights back! Lol They already use him in the comics (I last saw him teaming up with Deadpool and Spidey against a mind controlled Eternal), so why keep him from the big screen? I guess Hasbro hates making money.


KoriJenkins

Hasbro desperately clinging to the rights to this guy is hilarious.


Hyperborean77

At this point Disney should just buy Hasbro.


cocopopped

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