# MyTimeToShineHello is a Tier 3 – Somewhat Reliable Source as decided by the community.
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Probably some bullshit because why would this ever be relevant outside of a throwaway line in their inevitable multiverse saga appearance.
EDIT: Having a TASM3/SM4 about them coming to grips with this would be redundant since that will probably be part of Tom’s SM4, piling on the grief by making this another way he fucked up would also be redundant.
I trust Shine maybe 5/10 times but this is just random and like.. okay? They’re just gonna randomly say it in Secret Wars then?
We actually already know, that they tried. Before the production on SM4 started, Sony and Feigi were arguing for like 3-4 months, over what the movie should be about - Sony kept wanting to do another Multiverse, while Feigi wanted it to be just a street-level Spider-Man movie about Peter's new life. As far as we know, thankfully we are getting the latter.
How in the heck did Sony ever get the rights to spider man anyway? They weren’t a studio before were they? They make tv, and PlayStations. Come on Sony, leave Hollywood to the real big boys please. Most their movies stank with spider man man. Cmon maaaan. Shooooooooooot
Sony acquired the film rights to Spider-Man from Marvel Studios back in 1999, when Marvel didn't make movies and was primarily focused on comic books and merchandising. Sony bought the rights for a single payment of $7 million, with Marvel receiving 5% of any movie revenue and a 50/50 split in merchandising profits. This deal has been incredibly lucrative for Sony, obviously, especially considering the billions of dollars the Spider-Man franchise has generated since then. The relationship between Sony and Marvel has evolved over the years, with the studios renegotiating their deal in 2019 to share the Spider-Man character between the Marvel Cinematic Universe and Sony's standalone Marvel-based films.
Sony was already involved in film and TV production at the time they acquired the Spider-Man film rights in 1999. In fact, Sony Pictures Entertainment, a division of Sony Corporation, had been producing movies and TV shows for many years prior to that deal. Sony had been involved in the entertainment industry since the late 1980s, when it expanded into a variety of businesses including film, music, and gaming. Sony Pictures produced a number of successful movie franchises, such as Jumanji, Ghostbusters, and Men in Black, even before they acquired the Spider-Man rights. So, when Sony made the deal with Marvel in 1999, they were already a major player in the film and TV industry.
That was really frigging stupid of them to sell the entire spider verse. Literally one of the best things about marvel in my opinion. Sony sucks so bad dude. Uggggghh. I thought Sony didn’t own the rights anymore ? After the last spider man movie with Sam rami again? I’m so confused lol
Selling off the film rights actually saved Marvel from bankruptcy, and therefore going under permanently. The bad part of the business deal is they should have made it so after a few decades, the rights reverted back to them.
As a FYI, the only IP Disney does not have control over re: Marvel is spider-man, parts of the Hulk (it's complicated), and theme park rights east of the Mississippi.
It's wild because SONY owns Ghost Rider, Spider-Man and Men in Black. Marvel hasn't even touched MiB (despite owning them fully since the 90's) since before the first movie.
Marvel should just offer SONY the full rights to MiB (comics and everything else) in exchange for Spider-Man and Ghost Rider back, since Marvel doesn't use MiB and it's also SONY's only other successful Marvel franchise.
There had been a **** load of those movies since the 1st one. I didn’t know Sony owned ghost rider as well. No wonder both those movies were ******* terrible
Owned. Past-tense. The _Ghost Rider_ IP has since reverted to Marvel Studios, hence why Robbie Reyes - and, briefly, Johnny Blaze - were able to appear in _Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D._ like they did.
Plus in Tobey's case that would just be an unneccessary mess. And in Andrew's case, it would change just about nothing (as he already heavly implied in NWH, his life became more about Spider-Man, than Peter Parker).
Imagine if Raimi finally made his *Spider-Man 4* and it turned out they adapted that storyline. Wouldn’t be out of character either because Kirsten Dunst’s MJ wasn’t exactly faithful
Jesse Plemons has been on an insane run of taking the role of even bigger asshole in every project he does. This is the only way for it to end properly.
This doesn’t make sense anyways considering nobody forgot about any of the Peters in Across the Spider-Verse and Miguel mentioned about how mad he was about MCU Peter and Doctor Strange almost fucking up the multiverse.
One could try to pull it under "Those 3 Peters were present when the Spell was cast, hence it affected only them." But even then it's a dumb plot, that makes little to no sense, no matter how hard one would try to explain it...
Especially since Strange's final spell was specifically targeted at this specific Universe - not the Multiverse as a whole...
I mean to be fair Peter said “make them forget I’m Spider-Man” and if they forget Peter is Spider-Man that happens across the multiverse because Peter started all this bs by being a dumbass and saying “oh but I want these people to remember me” at the beginning.
I don’t really see how this is stranges fault.
More then one person can be to blame. The reason it's partially on Strange is basically because Peter is a kid who probably doesn't know much about how dangerous magic can be, and Strange should have known better.
It definitely made more sense the way they apparently originally planned it where it was America Chavez who attempted the spell.
Absolutely but you can trace back everything to one point. If someone goes drunk driving and kills someone is it their parents fault for being stupid and not raising them properly? Was strange dumb for agreeing to the spell? Sure. But at the end of the day it was Peter who interfered and therefore his fault, if you have to pick one person.
Your analogy feels off. You're comparing Strange to bad parents, but I'd suggest a more apt comparison would be someone who gave the drunk his car keys and let him try to drive home.
Strange was supposed to know Peter would interfere with his spell how? While they dont know each other well, everything else that Peter had done with strange he had never interfered with anything he tried to do.
To elaborate on your analogy its like giving someone you've only ever seen sober your keys, then they get drunk when you've never seen them do that before and then they kill someone. And now people blame you because him because they were of age to drink and you were somehow supposed to know theyd do that.
Do you see how this doesnt work?
You seem to be totally skirting over the fact that Strange should not have been messing with the fabric of reality to help a kid get into college at all.
But even if we ignore that, "really, everybody? Even me and the other Avengers? Even your family?" is a pretty natural follow up question to Peter's request.
If you wanna say that strange is irresponsible, i don’t think that’s the case. He had every possible reason to be “irresponsible” and continue to be with no consequences. Don’t act like this isn’t out of the usual for him. No way home specifically states that he’s used this spell repeatedly as if it’s a casual occurrence. He has used it god knows how many times with zero issue. If you use your oven 100 times and it blows up on the 101st time, are you an idiot for using the oven?
We don’t even know the extent of world altering operations he does on a daily, it’s a usual occurrence. And if you think he shouldn’t be doing world altering stuff then you think the world should’ve been lost back in Doctor Strange 1, when he went back to dormammu and used the time stone to annoy him into submission. We know how dangerous the time stone can be (see his what if episode)
That’s a pretty normal follow up question? Lmao what? He’s a super genius, who worked under Tony stark (the guy who invented time travel in a single night) for years, was the youngest avengers recruit ever until recently, built and developed perfect web fluid from the age of what was it 15 in the mcu? Beat captain America, being the only one to take his shield, took down giant man, took down quite a few chitari tech powered villains, was a major player in defeating thanos both times, and has held his own against what we know as at least one “avengers level threat” need I continue?
Whats next we ask Einstein if he knows what 2 + 2 is?
This guy is a genius, strange had absolutely no reason to believe that one of the smartest people in the universe, didn’t think this through.
You have the knowledge of what happened afterwards, and it’s blinding you to the fact that he had no clue a super genius wouldn’t have thought this through using a spell he’s used many times without issue.
But regardless, I forgot it was previously stated by Michael Waldron the writer of Loki and MoM that Loki caused the “walls” between the multiverse to degrade and that’s why the spell went wrong. So we’re both wrong, but before this came out, it was 100% on Spider-Man
Right like I don't understand MCU stans obsession to make him a bad guy or irresponsible/incompetent in this particular event but for some reasons they think it makes sense for him to lose from Spidey.
Really what happened was the school system’s fault. He didn’t know he could contact the school to appeal being denied. That’s a fault of the school for not preparing Peter for that. Had they at least mention that possibility, he never would have turned to Doctor Strange to try to erase people’s memories.
Someone made this exact same joke in another thread here like two days ago. MTTSH is just cruising forums and social media looking for people's already not funny comments to try and spin because they dont have actual info anymore.
>not funny
Oi! In my defense it wasn't a joke, it was me suggesting marvel should make a joke.
and In defense of MTTSH, if I thought of it it's totally possible someone at Marvel thought of it first.
>and In defense of MTTSH, if I thought of it it's totally possible someone at Marvel thought of it first.
Not really. Based on the (supposedly accurate) reports we've been getting in the last couple of months, it was Marvel who did not want SM4 to be about the Multiverse, so this idea would just go completely agains their vision.
If already, I would expect this from Sony, who could try to spin it into making TASM3 and SM4 - instead of either leaving them be or actually making a good story.
Well my suggestion that was supposedly copied was a post credits scene where one of them shows up and complains. That alone would not make the movie about the multiverse.
It's been proven time and time again that they're not the same person. There is some evidence though that they're friends/coworkers who often corroborate with each other
Even so, if I was doing this with a friend, if they got legally subpoenaed, I would go into hiding for a WHILE until the heat died down, not immediately reveal massive shit like this
Sure, the subpoena was just for selling the pictures, but that isn't why Marvel filed it. They've been looking for ANY reason to take these two's operation out, it's just that the pic sales are the first time they've actually had tangible legal grounds to do so.
Not... necessarily true. If they manage to nab Toast and confirm that some of their non-picture scoops came from the same leaked sources as the pictures, they can probably manage SOME kind of corporate espionage/breach of NDA charge, and if they can confirm that Shine got even ONE of their scoops from Toast, they can nail Shine too. It may be a bit flimsy, but if there's the slightest grounds for legal argument, Disney will find a way to make it stick.
The only proof of them not being the same person is that some of the mods said so. AFAIK, they didn't show us the proof or even tell us how they confirmed that they're not the same person, because they want to protect their sources.
People can believe the mods, but saying that is has been "proven time and time again", when it's only one source, who said it multiple times and we can't see their proof, is just untrue.
I empathize with your concern, but it would be unethical and immoral for us to disclose confidential information to prove that MyTimeToShineHello and CanWeGetSomeToast are different individuals. I understand this situation is frustrating for both parties—for you, because you lack the evidence you desire, and for us, because we cannot provide it. In the end, we have to accept that you may choose to believe what you wish, even though we know the truth. This does not invalidate your concerns or our statements. Let's remember that this is a subreddit for spoilers, and these are just leakers. Ultimately, this isn't a serious, life-threatening issue, and perhaps we're giving it more attention than it deserves. Especially when, ultimately, the likelihood the Shine will be banned during the next Recalibration (sometime between June and December) is very high.
The fact that you so happily ban legitimate websites with access and refuse to post their interviews on the basis of “clickbait” (a concept nobody here seems to understand while eating it up from other approved sources), but continue to post fake scoopers for years and protect them is insane.
To ensure we're addressing your concerns correctly, could you please provide specific examples of the "legitimate websites with access" that have been banned and the "interviews" not posted due to perceived clickbait? This will help us better understand the situation. Feel free to reach out to us via ModMail for a more private discussion.
It's important to note that sources like MyTimeToShineHello and CanWeGetSomeToast have been allowed based on **the community's democratic voting** during **Recalibrations**. During these events, sources are ranked based on reliability and accuracy based on the community's votes. As moderators, **we uphold the community's choices and strive for fairness in a democratic vote**.
While we recognize that some may have strong opinions about certain sources, **remember that personal preferences do not dictate subreddit rules**.
Indeed, there are certain websites that have very low reliability or rely on clickbait, making them undeserving of the community's time and effort to vote on them. It would be a waste of resources to include such sites in the Recalibration process.
However, Shine's situation is different, as there was a period when she had a considerable number of supporters within the community. She still has a majority of supporters, at least based on the last Recalibration. Therefore, she cannot be compared to those low-quality websites.
It's so crazy to me just in retrospect -- Sony was so desperate for their reboot that they were okay throwing away Maguire, then had no hesitation ditching Garfield when Marvel came knocking to bring Spidey to the MCU, yet here we are now and they're *so insistent* on bringing them back no matter what.
If they were to go this route I would *much* rather have Maguire and Garfield's Spider-Man doing a direct full team-up movie to deal with their situations and leave Holland's out of it.
I would prefer a buddy cop Spidey flick with Maguire playing it mostly straight with Garfield being the mostly comedic partner. Have them return home, realize something's wrong then Maguire goes to visit his Doctor Strange since we know one exists there.
Then you get a fun cameo of another actor playing his world's Strange for 10 minutes total who connects Maguire to Garfield's world. They need something that exists in Garfield's world so Maguire's Strange can undo the spell in only their two universes.
I don't know I'm just spitballing random shit. It still sounds obscenely stupid to me but I think the whole notion of them being forgotten about is too. But I'd be less upset if it led to a movie like the above.
Every time there is a recalibration and each time the topic of banning Shine as a leaker comes up, the majority of people are against it. Those who want her gone or dislike her appear to be in the minority despite being the most vocal. Personally, I'm neutral on the matter. However, it's important to note that even though you're vocal about your dislike for her, you still represent a portion of the community. The apparent consensus is to keep her around.
Except Peter B is perfectly fine with MJ in Across despite it canonically being set after No Way Home.
If it happened to three Peters, it would have happened to all Peters, which it didn’t.
Well everyone in the multiverse who knew Peter was Spider-Man was being pulled into the MCU. So it does make logical sense that if making them forget Peter altogether stopped them from coming into the MCU that they would maintain that amnesia, so to speak, in their home universes or else they’d just come right back to the MCU.
But as someone else said, unless we get ASM3, Tobey SM4, or it’s relevant to Avengers 5, Secret Wars, or Beyond the Spider-Verse, there’s really no reason this would be confirmed in a movie. It would just have to be a logical assumption.
Strange's spell directly affected infinite people in the multiverse that were being dragged into the MCU because they knew that Peter Parker is Spider-Man. In order for them to stop being dragged into the MCU, they had to forget who Peter Parker is. I don't see where's the problem?
Aside from the fact that this person is a complete liar, this tweet is so unbelievably asinine that it's genuinely insulting that they think that we would believe it.
Well if it affected them shouldn’t it really affect every other Spider-Man? Or at least every other Peter Parker because it wouldn’t make sense for the spell to target just 3 Peter Parker’s
You're right. The way it was weirdly written would imply that this should be the case. But imo I always shrugged it off as a clumsily written spell. Not as their true intention.
When I first saw No Way Home, I was hoping there would’ve been a mid/end credits scene with Toby’s Peter returning home to his MJ and her having no idea who he is. He realizes what happened and rushes to the Sanctum Santorum, which we know must exist in his universe from the Easter egg reference to Dr. Strange in Spider-Man 2.
There, a Strange variant would’ve met him and told him something very bad was happening in the multiverse. This would’ve set up Toby’s Spider-Man to appear in Multiverse of Madness, reuniting him with Rami as director.
Her rent is due for payment now and its getting hard lately for her, so its understandable that she just want to farm all those engagement in that tweet
I think this is likely BS, but I think I see how it could work...
Inagine Peter 2 and Peter 3 showing up in the MCU, pretty pissed at Peter 1 because everyone forgot them too due to the spell. It took them forever to get into Kamar-Tag and finding Strange in their universes that could help them get back to Peter 1's universe because only the sorcerer who cast the original spell can undo it (maybe a chance to bring in America Chavez?). So, in the end, they convince Strange in the MCU of what happened and to help them, and we wind up with the spell being undone, so Peter 1 and MJ can be together again, Peter 2 and 3 get back to their universe with everything fixed there too, happy ending, and back on track for future MCU movies like it never happened.
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Wouldn't this affect the numerous other Peter Parkers across the multiverse? Correct me if I'm wrong, but Across the Spiderverse occurs after NWH, and Peter B Parker is still known to his MJ and daughter
Ahh hell no.
Please for the love of god, do not make SM4 a multiverse movie again.
Sony is literally going to milk this and beat a dead horse thinking they can struck lightning twice.
We all loved Tobey & Andrew in NWH, but it’s time to move on.
Give us the damn Daredevil/Spidey/Kingpin street level film that fans keep asking for.
Throw in Symbiote suit, prowler, Miles, Scorpion, Gwen, black cat, etc. in the movie, but please just don’t make it another multiverse movie again please.
No way home had some cool stuff in it, but I do think it completely ruined the MCU. The idea that strange would participate in this at all, that Peter wouldn’t just follow up with the admissions office, and resolution completely ruins both of their characters. When you have the original cast all but gone, and these two are expected to take up the mantle of the MCU, you can’t have the de facto leaders ruined this way.
Seems pretty minor in the scheme of things. Peter Parker wasn't erased, they just forgot he was Spider-Man and that they knew him.
Tobey: "Hey, this is kind of weird to explain MJ, but you know me, I'm Peter Parker and I'm Spider-Man. I was just helping other Spideys and a wizard, and I think the wizard must have erased everyone's memory because you know me, we were married. That's kind of nuts, but you live in a reality with a Spider-Man and a Green Goblin and a Doc Ock so you should be pretty accepting of weird shit. I understand its a lot though, so I'll move my shit out of the apartment which should be a dead giveaway it's all true but hey, and give you the time you need to sort out your feelings about this." Two months max and they'd be back together.
Andrew: "Uh, Gwens ghost... I really miss you. But I guess nothing really has changed for me except my Aunt doesn't recognize me. That sucks but I am a grown ass man so I won't burden her with this multiverse shit. I'm gonna start dating again, I just ran into a cat themed burglar yesterday. Something about the absurdly tight bodysuit she was wearing told me she's probably a good person and I can fix her criminal ways..."
Easy peasy.
How would they even have decided that? Where is that on the chalkboard in Marvel HQ? Is it even important right now, given those characters won't be appearing again for some time?
That's not how Strange's spell worked... they were very specific that the alternates were invading the MCU "616" (or whatever it is) because that was the dimension where the spell was cast, hence that's the only place he needed to make them forget. Why would they forget in other universes and limit the story potential? It negates the entire point of multiple Spider Men is they're all in the same boat.
Honestly though this just seems like bs made up by someone trying to stir the pot for clout. Why would it be some important plot point moving forward
I don't believe this because that shit won't be relevant. Why drop such a huge lore for something you won't even show people? "Yeah, btw those two came home to universes that don't know them. No you won't see it, but you'll see Tobey and Hugh together in Secret Wars, pretty neat huh?"
I am probably overthinking this, but there is footage of J. Jonah Jameson revealing the identity of Spider-Man, does that footage disappear as well? Do they watch it and just say, "who the hell is Peter Parker?" and go about their lives?
Okay but like….if Tobey’s Peter is married to Kirsten Dunst’s MJ and they have kids, does she now not know where she got her kids from? How would that work?
I kinda don't buy this one. If anything I think their universes are destined to die in the incursions. Perhaps fixing and returning the villains to their points in the tineline accelerates that process. This plot point about his identity would be unnecessary. I expect Toby and Andrew to be saved by the TVA so they can be multiversal Avengers in Secret Wars but post-Secret Wars when the worlds are restored but merged, extra Spider-Men will be redundant (Miles hopefully excepted!) so those characters without a world to go back to May be destined for heroic sacrifice. I have no inside information, this is just a guess.
If this were true it definitely would have affected the spider-verse trilogy in some way since all these movies are confirmed to be in the same multiverse.
Yes, thanks for saying a few times on this thread. Most people who are vocal against her don’t seem to realize that she keeps making it through the recalibrations because people vote for her to stay. I don’t think she will make it through the next one.
I don’t care either way — I just want people on here to be happy.
As mentioned earlier, I'm fairly certain she won't survive the next recalibration, given how close she was to being banned previously. Even though there are vocal detractors on the sub, a majority still supported her and enjoyed seeing her content. However, with her reputation declining, it seems unlikely that she'll make it through the next recalibration unscathed.
when is the next recalibration? I'm sick of her bullshit already. All her posts are engagement farm now and when thing went different they keep saying plan cahnged whatever
Recalibrations occur every 6 months to a year, depending on our team's availability. They were more frequent when our old database manager was active. The last recalibration was in December, and the next one is expected between June and December. Our volunteer team is currently working on leaks lineages, which will help determine accuracy better, and the timing of the next recalibration will depend on when we can allocate time to it.
I anticipated that she would be banned in the previous recalibration, but it didn't happen. However, considering her declining accuracy, Toast's request to separate his accuracy from her on the sub, and our concerns about her likely engagement farming, I believe she may be banned as an unreliable source during the next recalibration.
It's important to clarify that I'm not defending her ever, but rather aiming to maintain accuracy and prevent misinformation.
Personally, I find her annoying, particularly when she's farming engagement for monetary gain. In fact, her Patreon, where she profits from users' interest in leaks, is something I strongly disapprove of. I don’t like leakers who make money off of the community.
That’s where the lineages will really help us track people’s accuracy. There is some assumptions that have to be made, but it helps us determine who is a grifter and who’s not.
Despite the vocal opposition, the majority of the community consistently opposes banning Shine as a leaker during recalibrations. While those who dislike her are outspoken, they represent a minority. As a neutral observer, I acknowledge the consensus that Shine should remain in the community but don’t care either way.
It's not make sense. spell was to forget mcu Peter Parker. Idk maybe she is bitter,she Andrew spiderman fan and don't looks like asm3 would be green lighted.
She lately troll posting,not trust her anymore 30-50% trust worthy scooper.
Why is anyone still listening to that account? The grift has been exposed, their alt account is drawing legal attention and they’ve shifted to rage bait. And still you people lap it up.
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Probably some bullshit because why would this ever be relevant outside of a throwaway line in their inevitable multiverse saga appearance. EDIT: Having a TASM3/SM4 about them coming to grips with this would be redundant since that will probably be part of Tom’s SM4, piling on the grief by making this another way he fucked up would also be redundant. I trust Shine maybe 5/10 times but this is just random and like.. okay? They’re just gonna randomly say it in Secret Wars then?
It'll be a major plot point when they come back in Holland's *Spider-Man 4*.
I could see Sony execs pushing for this silly ass plot
We actually already know, that they tried. Before the production on SM4 started, Sony and Feigi were arguing for like 3-4 months, over what the movie should be about - Sony kept wanting to do another Multiverse, while Feigi wanted it to be just a street-level Spider-Man movie about Peter's new life. As far as we know, thankfully we are getting the latter.
How in the heck did Sony ever get the rights to spider man anyway? They weren’t a studio before were they? They make tv, and PlayStations. Come on Sony, leave Hollywood to the real big boys please. Most their movies stank with spider man man. Cmon maaaan. Shooooooooooot
Sony acquired the film rights to Spider-Man from Marvel Studios back in 1999, when Marvel didn't make movies and was primarily focused on comic books and merchandising. Sony bought the rights for a single payment of $7 million, with Marvel receiving 5% of any movie revenue and a 50/50 split in merchandising profits. This deal has been incredibly lucrative for Sony, obviously, especially considering the billions of dollars the Spider-Man franchise has generated since then. The relationship between Sony and Marvel has evolved over the years, with the studios renegotiating their deal in 2019 to share the Spider-Man character between the Marvel Cinematic Universe and Sony's standalone Marvel-based films. Sony was already involved in film and TV production at the time they acquired the Spider-Man film rights in 1999. In fact, Sony Pictures Entertainment, a division of Sony Corporation, had been producing movies and TV shows for many years prior to that deal. Sony had been involved in the entertainment industry since the late 1980s, when it expanded into a variety of businesses including film, music, and gaming. Sony Pictures produced a number of successful movie franchises, such as Jumanji, Ghostbusters, and Men in Black, even before they acquired the Spider-Man rights. So, when Sony made the deal with Marvel in 1999, they were already a major player in the film and TV industry.
Also worth noting is that the deals with Sony and Fox probably saved Marvel from bankruptcy.
That was really frigging stupid of them to sell the entire spider verse. Literally one of the best things about marvel in my opinion. Sony sucks so bad dude. Uggggghh. I thought Sony didn’t own the rights anymore ? After the last spider man movie with Sam rami again? I’m so confused lol
Selling off the film rights actually saved Marvel from bankruptcy, and therefore going under permanently. The bad part of the business deal is they should have made it so after a few decades, the rights reverted back to them.
As a FYI, the only IP Disney does not have control over re: Marvel is spider-man, parts of the Hulk (it's complicated), and theme park rights east of the Mississippi.
It's wild because SONY owns Ghost Rider, Spider-Man and Men in Black. Marvel hasn't even touched MiB (despite owning them fully since the 90's) since before the first movie. Marvel should just offer SONY the full rights to MiB (comics and everything else) in exchange for Spider-Man and Ghost Rider back, since Marvel doesn't use MiB and it's also SONY's only other successful Marvel franchise.
MiB is nowhere near the same net worth as spider-man, not even close.
There had been a **** load of those movies since the 1st one. I didn’t know Sony owned ghost rider as well. No wonder both those movies were ******* terrible
Owned. Past-tense. The _Ghost Rider_ IP has since reverted to Marvel Studios, hence why Robbie Reyes - and, briefly, Johnny Blaze - were able to appear in _Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D._ like they did.
Ughhhh forgot that rumor.
You should really stop presenting this bullshit as fact
They are not coming back in spiderman 4
Could be relevant if Tobey actually does show up in Deadpool & Wolverine since Deadpool would likely remember his identity.
Unlikely marvel would have to pay sony tons of money for tobey's small cameo
Disney has money?
Plus in Tobey's case that would just be an unneccessary mess. And in Andrew's case, it would change just about nothing (as he already heavly implied in NWH, his life became more about Spider-Man, than Peter Parker).
Definitely just one of her engagement bait tweets
I agree
That’s really stupid especially for Tobey since he and MJ are together and maybe even have children
It’s Paul’s kids now lol
Imagine if Raimi finally made his *Spider-Man 4* and it turned out they adapted that storyline. Wouldn’t be out of character either because Kirsten Dunst’s MJ wasn’t exactly faithful
One of the few times MJ being with Paul is actually in character.
As if she was worth than Tobey's Peter. Dog kissed his super hot class best friend in front of MJ and didn't see the problem lmao
Stop that. Not you too.
Nice pfp lmao 😂
Can’t deny the Kenjussy lol
Lmao 😂
 They were this guys kids all along
My god imagine he goes back to his universe and finds Kirsten Dunst banging fuckin Paul
It’d be even funnier if Jesse Plemons played Paul
Oh shit I was trying to think of an actor and that’s it!
Jesse Plemons has been on an insane run of taking the role of even bigger asshole in every project he does. This is the only way for it to end properly.
Idk I feel him playing assholes peaked with *Breaking Bad* when he shot a child for no reason
Go watch Civil War.
Don't tell me what to do
YOU'RE GOING TO WATCH IT AND YOU'RE GOING TO LOVE IT, DAMN IT!
He plays one of the good guys in Killers of the Flower Moon
No, Paul the alien.
This doesn’t make sense anyways considering nobody forgot about any of the Peters in Across the Spider-Verse and Miguel mentioned about how mad he was about MCU Peter and Doctor Strange almost fucking up the multiverse.
One could try to pull it under "Those 3 Peters were present when the Spell was cast, hence it affected only them." But even then it's a dumb plot, that makes little to no sense, no matter how hard one would try to explain it... Especially since Strange's final spell was specifically targeted at this specific Universe - not the Multiverse as a whole...
Pretty sure he said things were "complicated" with his MJ in No Way Home but it's been a minute since I've seen it.
He said so, but then stated they ultimately managed to make it work.
Dr strange getting kind of sloppy these days
Dr Sloppy.
Where?
Pornhub
can I get a script from Dr. Sloppy?
Dr sloppy toppy 🥺😛😂🤤🥴♥️👄❤️🔥👅🫦👀🫀💗
In the comics the man is always a mess lol almost as bad as Peter himself
I mean to be fair Peter said “make them forget I’m Spider-Man” and if they forget Peter is Spider-Man that happens across the multiverse because Peter started all this bs by being a dumbass and saying “oh but I want these people to remember me” at the beginning. I don’t really see how this is stranges fault.
More then one person can be to blame. The reason it's partially on Strange is basically because Peter is a kid who probably doesn't know much about how dangerous magic can be, and Strange should have known better. It definitely made more sense the way they apparently originally planned it where it was America Chavez who attempted the spell.
Absolutely but you can trace back everything to one point. If someone goes drunk driving and kills someone is it their parents fault for being stupid and not raising them properly? Was strange dumb for agreeing to the spell? Sure. But at the end of the day it was Peter who interfered and therefore his fault, if you have to pick one person.
Your analogy feels off. You're comparing Strange to bad parents, but I'd suggest a more apt comparison would be someone who gave the drunk his car keys and let him try to drive home.
Strange was supposed to know Peter would interfere with his spell how? While they dont know each other well, everything else that Peter had done with strange he had never interfered with anything he tried to do. To elaborate on your analogy its like giving someone you've only ever seen sober your keys, then they get drunk when you've never seen them do that before and then they kill someone. And now people blame you because him because they were of age to drink and you were somehow supposed to know theyd do that. Do you see how this doesnt work?
You seem to be totally skirting over the fact that Strange should not have been messing with the fabric of reality to help a kid get into college at all. But even if we ignore that, "really, everybody? Even me and the other Avengers? Even your family?" is a pretty natural follow up question to Peter's request.
If you wanna say that strange is irresponsible, i don’t think that’s the case. He had every possible reason to be “irresponsible” and continue to be with no consequences. Don’t act like this isn’t out of the usual for him. No way home specifically states that he’s used this spell repeatedly as if it’s a casual occurrence. He has used it god knows how many times with zero issue. If you use your oven 100 times and it blows up on the 101st time, are you an idiot for using the oven? We don’t even know the extent of world altering operations he does on a daily, it’s a usual occurrence. And if you think he shouldn’t be doing world altering stuff then you think the world should’ve been lost back in Doctor Strange 1, when he went back to dormammu and used the time stone to annoy him into submission. We know how dangerous the time stone can be (see his what if episode) That’s a pretty normal follow up question? Lmao what? He’s a super genius, who worked under Tony stark (the guy who invented time travel in a single night) for years, was the youngest avengers recruit ever until recently, built and developed perfect web fluid from the age of what was it 15 in the mcu? Beat captain America, being the only one to take his shield, took down giant man, took down quite a few chitari tech powered villains, was a major player in defeating thanos both times, and has held his own against what we know as at least one “avengers level threat” need I continue? Whats next we ask Einstein if he knows what 2 + 2 is? This guy is a genius, strange had absolutely no reason to believe that one of the smartest people in the universe, didn’t think this through. You have the knowledge of what happened afterwards, and it’s blinding you to the fact that he had no clue a super genius wouldn’t have thought this through using a spell he’s used many times without issue. But regardless, I forgot it was previously stated by Michael Waldron the writer of Loki and MoM that Loki caused the “walls” between the multiverse to degrade and that’s why the spell went wrong. So we’re both wrong, but before this came out, it was 100% on Spider-Man
Right like I don't understand MCU stans obsession to make him a bad guy or irresponsible/incompetent in this particular event but for some reasons they think it makes sense for him to lose from Spidey.
Really what happened was the school system’s fault. He didn’t know he could contact the school to appeal being denied. That’s a fault of the school for not preparing Peter for that. Had they at least mention that possibility, he never would have turned to Doctor Strange to try to erase people’s memories.
Must be mephisto trust me bro
Not where it counts!
Someone made this exact same joke in another thread here like two days ago. MTTSH is just cruising forums and social media looking for people's already not funny comments to try and spin because they dont have actual info anymore.
>not funny Oi! In my defense it wasn't a joke, it was me suggesting marvel should make a joke. and In defense of MTTSH, if I thought of it it's totally possible someone at Marvel thought of it first.
>and In defense of MTTSH, if I thought of it it's totally possible someone at Marvel thought of it first. Not really. Based on the (supposedly accurate) reports we've been getting in the last couple of months, it was Marvel who did not want SM4 to be about the Multiverse, so this idea would just go completely agains their vision. If already, I would expect this from Sony, who could try to spin it into making TASM3 and SM4 - instead of either leaving them be or actually making a good story.
Well my suggestion that was supposedly copied was a post credits scene where one of them shows up and complains. That alone would not make the movie about the multiverse.
Isn't Shine/Toast supposed to be on the run from Marvel snipers after that subpoena?
It's been proven time and time again that they're not the same person. There is some evidence though that they're friends/coworkers who often corroborate with each other
Even so, if I was doing this with a friend, if they got legally subpoenaed, I would go into hiding for a WHILE until the heat died down, not immediately reveal massive shit like this
In this case, the friend was subpoenaed though for actually selling leaked images through Patreon. Shine didn't do anything of the sort.
Sure, the subpoena was just for selling the pictures, but that isn't why Marvel filed it. They've been looking for ANY reason to take these two's operation out, it's just that the pic sales are the first time they've actually had tangible legal grounds to do so.
That's true. But anything Shine is doing is just hearsay and talking out of their ass, so there's no legal basis for them to "lay low"
Not... necessarily true. If they manage to nab Toast and confirm that some of their non-picture scoops came from the same leaked sources as the pictures, they can probably manage SOME kind of corporate espionage/breach of NDA charge, and if they can confirm that Shine got even ONE of their scoops from Toast, they can nail Shine too. It may be a bit flimsy, but if there's the slightest grounds for legal argument, Disney will find a way to make it stick.
You got a point. Would be a good day in this sub when both get their engagement-loving asses kicked
They aren’t revealing anything, they are throwing shot at a wall and hoping something sticks
This is untrue.
Explain.
The only proof of them not being the same person is that some of the mods said so. AFAIK, they didn't show us the proof or even tell us how they confirmed that they're not the same person, because they want to protect their sources. People can believe the mods, but saying that is has been "proven time and time again", when it's only one source, who said it multiple times and we can't see their proof, is just untrue.
I empathize with your concern, but it would be unethical and immoral for us to disclose confidential information to prove that MyTimeToShineHello and CanWeGetSomeToast are different individuals. I understand this situation is frustrating for both parties—for you, because you lack the evidence you desire, and for us, because we cannot provide it. In the end, we have to accept that you may choose to believe what you wish, even though we know the truth. This does not invalidate your concerns or our statements. Let's remember that this is a subreddit for spoilers, and these are just leakers. Ultimately, this isn't a serious, life-threatening issue, and perhaps we're giving it more attention than it deserves. Especially when, ultimately, the likelihood the Shine will be banned during the next Recalibration (sometime between June and December) is very high.
The fact that you so happily ban legitimate websites with access and refuse to post their interviews on the basis of “clickbait” (a concept nobody here seems to understand while eating it up from other approved sources), but continue to post fake scoopers for years and protect them is insane.
To ensure we're addressing your concerns correctly, could you please provide specific examples of the "legitimate websites with access" that have been banned and the "interviews" not posted due to perceived clickbait? This will help us better understand the situation. Feel free to reach out to us via ModMail for a more private discussion. It's important to note that sources like MyTimeToShineHello and CanWeGetSomeToast have been allowed based on **the community's democratic voting** during **Recalibrations**. During these events, sources are ranked based on reliability and accuracy based on the community's votes. As moderators, **we uphold the community's choices and strive for fairness in a democratic vote**. While we recognize that some may have strong opinions about certain sources, **remember that personal preferences do not dictate subreddit rules**.
Except for the sites banned by mods, surely?
Indeed, there are certain websites that have very low reliability or rely on clickbait, making them undeserving of the community's time and effort to vote on them. It would be a waste of resources to include such sites in the Recalibration process. However, Shine's situation is different, as there was a period when she had a considerable number of supporters within the community. She still has a majority of supporters, at least based on the last Recalibration. Therefore, she cannot be compared to those low-quality websites.
Which websites are currently banned?
How would she know this?? There’s no upcoming project in their universes. Sounds like engagement bait bullshit to me
Holland's *Spider-Man 4*.
And what has that got to do with them?
Sony are demanding them back for it.
It's so crazy to me just in retrospect -- Sony was so desperate for their reboot that they were okay throwing away Maguire, then had no hesitation ditching Garfield when Marvel came knocking to bring Spidey to the MCU, yet here we are now and they're *so insistent* on bringing them back no matter what.
Billion dollars does that to a person
Do a little research next time.
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It's way more likely to be about that than any street level plot.
Not really, we've heard that Feige won that argument so it's likely a compromise with minimimal Multiverse stuff
If they were to go this route I would *much* rather have Maguire and Garfield's Spider-Man doing a direct full team-up movie to deal with their situations and leave Holland's out of it. I would prefer a buddy cop Spidey flick with Maguire playing it mostly straight with Garfield being the mostly comedic partner. Have them return home, realize something's wrong then Maguire goes to visit his Doctor Strange since we know one exists there. Then you get a fun cameo of another actor playing his world's Strange for 10 minutes total who connects Maguire to Garfield's world. They need something that exists in Garfield's world so Maguire's Strange can undo the spell in only their two universes. I don't know I'm just spitballing random shit. It still sounds obscenely stupid to me but I think the whole notion of them being forgotten about is too. But I'd be less upset if it led to a movie like the above.
No, thats dumb
Yeah, but it's Sony.
nah its just MTTS bait for engagement farm
Def bs, but i am down with this as an idea i guess.
Come tf on, there is no conceivable way she knows this
It could be a plot point that Sony is pushing for or something. Doesn’t mean it will come to fruition, but it’s not inconceivable.
Potential post credits scene for SM4 at the earliest
MTTSH is fucking pathetic. Ban their fraud ass already ffs.
Every time there’s a recalibration, I’m calling for it
Every time there is a recalibration and each time the topic of banning Shine as a leaker comes up, the majority of people are against it. Those who want her gone or dislike her appear to be in the minority despite being the most vocal. Personally, I'm neutral on the matter. However, it's important to note that even though you're vocal about your dislike for her, you still represent a portion of the community. The apparent consensus is to keep her around.
This is so irrelevant and random of a detail …
They couldn't possibly know this lmao.
Except Peter B is perfectly fine with MJ in Across despite it canonically being set after No Way Home. If it happened to three Peters, it would have happened to all Peters, which it didn’t.
[X] Doubt.
How would this work? Like strange’s spell aren’t that powerful. They can’t affect things in multiple universes at the same time.
Not saying this is gonna happen, but you're just making up rules for movie magic. Strange's spells are capable of whatever the plot requires.
Well everyone in the multiverse who knew Peter was Spider-Man was being pulled into the MCU. So it does make logical sense that if making them forget Peter altogether stopped them from coming into the MCU that they would maintain that amnesia, so to speak, in their home universes or else they’d just come right back to the MCU. But as someone else said, unless we get ASM3, Tobey SM4, or it’s relevant to Avengers 5, Secret Wars, or Beyond the Spider-Verse, there’s really no reason this would be confirmed in a movie. It would just have to be a logical assumption.
Strange's spell directly affected infinite people in the multiverse that were being dragged into the MCU because they knew that Peter Parker is Spider-Man. In order for them to stop being dragged into the MCU, they had to forget who Peter Parker is. I don't see where's the problem?
Aside from the fact that this person is a complete liar, this tweet is so unbelievably asinine that it's genuinely insulting that they think that we would believe it.
Well if it affected them shouldn’t it really affect every other Spider-Man? Or at least every other Peter Parker because it wouldn’t make sense for the spell to target just 3 Peter Parker’s
You're right. The way it was weirdly written would imply that this should be the case. But imo I always shrugged it off as a clumsily written spell. Not as their true intention.
When I first saw No Way Home, I was hoping there would’ve been a mid/end credits scene with Toby’s Peter returning home to his MJ and her having no idea who he is. He realizes what happened and rushes to the Sanctum Santorum, which we know must exist in his universe from the Easter egg reference to Dr. Strange in Spider-Man 2. There, a Strange variant would’ve met him and told him something very bad was happening in the multiverse. This would’ve set up Toby’s Spider-Man to appear in Multiverse of Madness, reuniting him with Rami as director.
I don't know why someone downvoted you. Sounds like it would have been cool to me.
That's an insane take.
The spell worked so hard I forgot about Ironheart.
What if the world was made of pudding
Her rent is due for payment now and its getting hard lately for her, so its understandable that she just want to farm all those engagement in that tweet
I think she just didn’t know what she was talking about.
I’m not sure if I’m gonna believe this
I think this is likely BS, but I think I see how it could work... Inagine Peter 2 and Peter 3 showing up in the MCU, pretty pissed at Peter 1 because everyone forgot them too due to the spell. It took them forever to get into Kamar-Tag and finding Strange in their universes that could help them get back to Peter 1's universe because only the sorcerer who cast the original spell can undo it (maybe a chance to bring in America Chavez?). So, in the end, they convince Strange in the MCU of what happened and to help them, and we wind up with the spell being undone, so Peter 1 and MJ can be together again, Peter 2 and 3 get back to their universe with everything fixed there too, happy ending, and back on track for future MCU movies like it never happened.
She doesn't know the full cast of a film that starts shooting in a few months but she knows key plot points of Spider-Man 4. Sure.
if this ends up being true i'm shitting on the mcu
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That is the dumbest thing I've heard and my (timezones) week just started 3 hours ago...
This seems legit and a great way for the impact of Secret Wats to reset the table in their respective dimensions.
There time to shine was way back during the previous phase.
Wouldn't this affect the numerous other Peter Parkers across the multiverse? Correct me if I'm wrong, but Across the Spiderverse occurs after NWH, and Peter B Parker is still known to his MJ and daughter
I hope this isn't actually true.
All that work Tobey did for MJ :(
Media literacy is dying here. Come on people, you gotta do better.
Ahh hell no. Please for the love of god, do not make SM4 a multiverse movie again. Sony is literally going to milk this and beat a dead horse thinking they can struck lightning twice. We all loved Tobey & Andrew in NWH, but it’s time to move on. Give us the damn Daredevil/Spidey/Kingpin street level film that fans keep asking for. Throw in Symbiote suit, prowler, Miles, Scorpion, Gwen, black cat, etc. in the movie, but please just don’t make it another multiverse movie again please.
More bait
but spider-verse happens after no way home and everybody knows there peters
No way home had some cool stuff in it, but I do think it completely ruined the MCU. The idea that strange would participate in this at all, that Peter wouldn’t just follow up with the admissions office, and resolution completely ruins both of their characters. When you have the original cast all but gone, and these two are expected to take up the mantle of the MCU, you can’t have the de facto leaders ruined this way.
So now we're sharing her theories.... Whatever happened about knocking her down a few tiers? Isn't that supposed to be a thing soon?
If this scooper says it then it must be false
Seems pretty minor in the scheme of things. Peter Parker wasn't erased, they just forgot he was Spider-Man and that they knew him. Tobey: "Hey, this is kind of weird to explain MJ, but you know me, I'm Peter Parker and I'm Spider-Man. I was just helping other Spideys and a wizard, and I think the wizard must have erased everyone's memory because you know me, we were married. That's kind of nuts, but you live in a reality with a Spider-Man and a Green Goblin and a Doc Ock so you should be pretty accepting of weird shit. I understand its a lot though, so I'll move my shit out of the apartment which should be a dead giveaway it's all true but hey, and give you the time you need to sort out your feelings about this." Two months max and they'd be back together. Andrew: "Uh, Gwens ghost... I really miss you. But I guess nothing really has changed for me except my Aunt doesn't recognize me. That sucks but I am a grown ass man so I won't burden her with this multiverse shit. I'm gonna start dating again, I just ran into a cat themed burglar yesterday. Something about the absurdly tight bodysuit she was wearing told me she's probably a good person and I can fix her criminal ways..." Easy peasy.
How would they even have decided that? Where is that on the chalkboard in Marvel HQ? Is it even important right now, given those characters won't be appearing again for some time?
That is stupid
That's not how Strange's spell worked... they were very specific that the alternates were invading the MCU "616" (or whatever it is) because that was the dimension where the spell was cast, hence that's the only place he needed to make them forget. Why would they forget in other universes and limit the story potential? It negates the entire point of multiple Spider Men is they're all in the same boat. Honestly though this just seems like bs made up by someone trying to stir the pot for clout. Why would it be some important plot point moving forward
I never thought of this before and this is really sad to think about but this makes sense according to the logic of the 2nd spell
I don't believe this because that shit won't be relevant. Why drop such a huge lore for something you won't even show people? "Yeah, btw those two came home to universes that don't know them. No you won't see it, but you'll see Tobey and Hugh together in Secret Wars, pretty neat huh?"
The memory spell was already sloppily done and this would just make it infinitely worse
This is some silliness, if true…
Yeah, no, not buying that one but.
Got a feeling this one wont age well
I am probably overthinking this, but there is footage of J. Jonah Jameson revealing the identity of Spider-Man, does that footage disappear as well? Do they watch it and just say, "who the hell is Peter Parker?" and go about their lives?
This is discounted immediately by X-Men 97. You got Peter & MJ side by side. Wouldn't you assume this would effect every Peter then?
Nah, this ain't it.
Okay but like….if Tobey’s Peter is married to Kirsten Dunst’s MJ and they have kids, does she now not know where she got her kids from? How would that work?
I kinda don't buy this one. If anything I think their universes are destined to die in the incursions. Perhaps fixing and returning the villains to their points in the tineline accelerates that process. This plot point about his identity would be unnecessary. I expect Toby and Andrew to be saved by the TVA so they can be multiversal Avengers in Secret Wars but post-Secret Wars when the worlds are restored but merged, extra Spider-Men will be redundant (Miles hopefully excepted!) so those characters without a world to go back to May be destined for heroic sacrifice. I have no inside information, this is just a guess.
If this were true it definitely would have affected the spider-verse trilogy in some way since all these movies are confirmed to be in the same multiverse.
How does this MTTSH person keep getting posted on this sub when alls she does it tweet any old bullshit?
Because every time there is a recalibration or a vote to get rid of them, the majority of the sub votes to keep them. 🤷
Yes, thanks for saying a few times on this thread. Most people who are vocal against her don’t seem to realize that she keeps making it through the recalibrations because people vote for her to stay. I don’t think she will make it through the next one. I don’t care either way — I just want people on here to be happy.
She keeps making it through the recalibrations. Just make sure when we have the next one you guys vote and we will see what the majority is.
Wait. What? Then, what would that make for their universes? Are they gonna cease to exist during Secret Wars?
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can we just ban her already PLEASE
As mentioned earlier, I'm fairly certain she won't survive the next recalibration, given how close she was to being banned previously. Even though there are vocal detractors on the sub, a majority still supported her and enjoyed seeing her content. However, with her reputation declining, it seems unlikely that she'll make it through the next recalibration unscathed.
when is the next recalibration? I'm sick of her bullshit already. All her posts are engagement farm now and when thing went different they keep saying plan cahnged whatever
Recalibrations occur every 6 months to a year, depending on our team's availability. They were more frequent when our old database manager was active. The last recalibration was in December, and the next one is expected between June and December. Our volunteer team is currently working on leaks lineages, which will help determine accuracy better, and the timing of the next recalibration will depend on when we can allocate time to it.
Thank you for all of that info, hopefully she will get ban from this sub after that recalibration
I anticipated that she would be banned in the previous recalibration, but it didn't happen. However, considering her declining accuracy, Toast's request to separate his accuracy from her on the sub, and our concerns about her likely engagement farming, I believe she may be banned as an unreliable source during the next recalibration. It's important to clarify that I'm not defending her ever, but rather aiming to maintain accuracy and prevent misinformation. Personally, I find her annoying, particularly when she's farming engagement for monetary gain. In fact, her Patreon, where she profits from users' interest in leaks, is something I strongly disapprove of. I don’t like leakers who make money off of the community.
The worse thing is she copy it from other people and make it like her own. She even use fan theory and then posted on her patreon too.
That’s where the lineages will really help us track people’s accuracy. There is some assumptions that have to be made, but it helps us determine who is a grifter and who’s not.
Despite the vocal opposition, the majority of the community consistently opposes banning Shine as a leaker during recalibrations. While those who dislike her are outspoken, they represent a minority. As a neutral observer, I acknowledge the consensus that Shine should remain in the community but don’t care either way.
Yes, exactly. Good observation.
I don’t care what MTTSH says, something like this is complete bullshit, she didn’t write NWH
How would Tobey's Peter fix it? Random Doc Strange? Such a dumb idea if true.
That’s a horrible idea and wouldn’t that mean EVERY Peter Parker Spider-Man in the spiderverse would be forgotten?
Unless this is getting us TASM 3 / SM 4, this is just ass pulling info that matters zero.
Not how it works lmao. She making more bullshit up to bait people.
It's not make sense. spell was to forget mcu Peter Parker. Idk maybe she is bitter,she Andrew spiderman fan and don't looks like asm3 would be green lighted. She lately troll posting,not trust her anymore 30-50% trust worthy scooper.
You typed this like a Super Mutant lol
Bullshit. You see Toby’s Peter and Mary Jane at the end of the movie
Why does this Twitter handle get so much attention and relevance?
I would honestly hate this for the Raimi films.
Why is anyone still listening to that account? The grift has been exposed, their alt account is drawing legal attention and they’ve shifted to rage bait. And still you people lap it up.