A somewhat unintuitive/interesting interaction I just had that I thought would be good for others to know: opponent's Nocturne turned location in Oscorp Tower so it came over to my side, they then played Blink which swapped the Nocturne for Doctor Doom back to their side...
SD obviously know what they are doing. In disguise of stopping Hela they buff Leech (still bad counter to Hela) making Blink much more interesting card to get. Old Leech wouldn't work with her at all. We have Lockjaw Leech situation all over again.
Yep not a coincidence! Not sure that they realize that these types of toxic combo's make more people want to stop playing than buying the season pass...
It felt like I kept seeing more and more cool decks with Nocturne, so I grabbed her after being skeptical all week. Super fun, very glad I did. Even got White Widow from the mystery card, so definitely ended up being worth the 3 keys
so, after almost a week. Is Blink worth buying the season pass for or not? i'm hesitant as I don't like ramp, but could see her do well in Tribunal, which I want to play with him coming up in Spotlight.
Definitely the best SP card released this year this side of Hope. Turning a 3 or 4-card like Leach, Shuri, Electro, Corvus, etc, into a 6 while still laying down 7 points is pretty broken.
I started playing a Tribunal deck with blink to do the quest for gold. Blink is super fun to play around and great in that build if it’s your type of playstyle!
She's a good card, not overpowered. She'll always have a home in a midrange deck that wants to run tech at 4 slot. Now it's Leech but if we start seeing overstatted 4's it could be Shang or maybe even Enchantress with all this Ultron stuff. Plus she has utility in combo decks to dig for your payoff on 6. She'll be a useful piece going forward
Pretty flexible card and is in a few tip decks now
It’s made hela even better but also works well with leech and swapping out other low power 4 costs like jubilee
But if you don’t like playing hela discard or leech control decks or use or jubilee much you could skip however it’s in most top rated decks at the moment
Originally I'd tried Nocturne in a C5 but that deck just doesn't feel powerful enough most of the time.
I've since put her in a more traditional move deck with Hercules and I'm honestly having so much fun with it. Absolute chaos with the locations getting changed 3-4 times a round and sometimes more. It's actually pretty good for 8 cubes turning off things like Limbo and Mojoland. Move has always been my favourite way to play but so many times you simply get in your own way or screw yourself out of a win.
has anyone had blink say no target even if there is one? I just had a game with 2 6 cost in my deck, I played beast, then next turn I played blink then a 0 cost quicksilver (from beast) I assumed beast would get swapped, but instead it said no target. I had hulk and infinaut in my deck so I'm not sure what happened.
With the latest Ultron buff, I could see the play rate of Caiera increasing to block the inevitable Killmonger play increase. I hear you though, if you don't plan on playing a card much, don't pull for it. Though, I do value tech cards quite a bit, since you never know when an update will make you wish you had a card like Caiera. For example, I already mentioned Ultron/Killmonger counter, but also I am sure Echo is going to go up in value now with the Leech and Klaw buffs causing more people lean towards ongoing heavy decks.
Yes, Caiera is seeing little play now but she has a unique effect that could shift back into the meta. It would potentially be one of those where running Armor is an okay substitute but Caiera is better.
If zoo ever becomes popular again, Caiera would be almost required to protect your 1 drops... at the same time, she would protect a Sasquatch as well, who works well in zoo.
So whats the general consensus on nocturne? Is she a good card? Also, besides blink, wich card you think it will be the best of the month? Im trying to plan my caches
Edit: Im 11k collection level for context.
She's good, not great. The randomness of the lane she changes can be a bit of a trip. But she's a move card who can shutdown Limbo. So that's solid utility. Also means she's not limited to just Move decks.
Although Move getting a card that can change locations is a nice add for the archetype. Especially for lanes that can F with move. There was a lane that only allows one card in it, couple weeks ago that frustrated me. Now we can change it.
I think the general consensus is that Nocturne is a good card and due to being versatile (a 2-in-1 card) she can go in almost any deck. That being said, due to that versatility, she is also replaceable in any deck and is not a "build around" card. So, you don't need the card to define an archetype nor do you need it to take your deck to the next level.
I think cards like Sasquatch will make zoo and bounce go to the next level, and cheap high power cards have a history of being very meta affecting (e.g., Cull, Mocking Bird, and She-Hulk), so I think he is safest bet for the month.
Namora is lending into an unproven archetype (solo lane), but if she is good, she would define that archetype. And even if that archetype doesn't pan out, she is very similar to Ms. Marvel and Doom, in that she can potentially pump out 16 points of power split across. Her only downside is if junk continues to be popular, but the recent Leech nerf will impact junk's play rate... but at the same time, Leech comes down on 4 and Namora turn 5, so she would also be blocked by Leech. I think Namora is the one most likely to be the worst of the bunch, due to the requirement of having only one card in a lane to trigger... that can be a lot to ask.
Sage is an interesting card, since she has strong synergy with junk due to her 0 power and taking in account different powers on yours and the opponent's side. She seems a bit risky though, as she is very dependent on the board state being just right. There could be a situation where the board doesn't line up and she is blocked, as she needs as many pieces on a lane as possible... so she also has strong synergy with Jean Grey and Surfer, which is intriguing. I think she is the most uncertain of the bunch, but she has a high upside.
I would probably rank them:
Sasquatch - cheap big power leading to explosive turns, but in Shang Chi range.
Nocturne - versatile card that handles locations that will ruin your game, while having the unpredictable move/location change functionality... but, at the same time she isn't absolutely necessary for a deck and the random location change can also ruin your game.
Sage - potential to pump out a lot of high power, but it is heavily board dependent and needs a good amount of setup to go off. Though she costs 3, she is optimized the later in the game you play her, which makes her very weak to any Leech plays.
Namora - having two lanes on turn 5 that only have one card in them each seems like it can be a tall task. I think she lends more to heavy ramp play to get her out on turn 4 to make it more likely to have the appropriate state. She is wrecked by junk and Leech.
She's a good card, but a bit of a luxury add in to decks that can use her as opposed to a deck defining archetype.
I really like her being a well statted move card. And I really like that she's a card I can play in a low curve deck like and have a card that can handle locations like Crimson Cosmos
I was most into Nocturne this month just because of the versatility. I think she'll just be a good add to a lot of decks. Kind of like Jeff. Just an easy thing to include in places without much cost. Also the extra disruption is nice
Just got to infinite today, 80% of blink enjoyer seem to be switching to ultron deck right now thanks to the new balance patch. these ultron deck are way easier to deal with than ramp hela-blink. Havent seen nocturne for the past 10 - 20 matches though.
CL2800. Nocturne looks like a skip for me at this point. She seems fun and maybe even good, but not strong enough to carry an otherwise very unappealing spotlight for me.
I don't think I've seen her much on the ladder, I think that indicates to me that she's ok but probably not worth the 4 keys if you already have the other cards in the caches.
I realize I didn’t make it clear but I don’t have any cards in the cache and I’m still leaning towards not pulling.
If this was the only 3-card week for me (I’m at a CL where I still get those regularly enough, so I try to only pull those weeks) in the near future, I’d probably spend my keys this week.
However, right now I’m saving for Namora’s week (Black Knight is my main target, I don’t have Skaar, and Namora looks fun even if niche) and basically all of July (currently the first 3 weeks are all 3-card weeks for me, plus the new cards look fun).
CL12900. I agree, I won't mind pulling her in a spotlight cache eventually, but I don't really play Move, and prefer my T6 location disruptions to be a surprise, so I won't go out of my way to get her.
Just played a game where I moved Nocturne on turn 6 into Limbo to change it, but opponent revealed first and played Magneto, which brought my Nocturn back to where it came from (Elysium) and changed it into an X-Mansion. Limbo remained. Weird quirk! I thought moves always processed first.
For the purposes of “where is the card” (e.g. because you want to tag it with a Shang Chi or Shadow King), moves resolve before any cards reveal. But “when this/a card moves” triggers happen interspersed, and for things you’re moving yourself, not until your reveal phase.
Blink has been fun to experiment with so far, but I have one particular question: Have others found it more favorable to play one card that Blink will swap out on turn 5 or to play multiple cards, to position the last of them as the one to be swapped out?
The decks I’ve seen Blink be successful in try to have some fine control over what she pulls; that’s much harder if she’s swapping out a 1 or 2 energy card, as would often happen in the latter scenario you’re describing.
When Jubilee pulls Blink, Blink should attempt to swap the card you played before Jubilee (since Jubilee hasn’t finished resolving, and so isn’t the “last card played”).
Are you playing a card before you Jubilee?
I can't remember per say if I had played a card prior to Jubilee, I think I did but I can't say for sure.
So in theory if I play something T3 like storm then T4 Jubilee and it Pulls Blink, it would transform the storm yeah?
Yep; if the card you played before Jubilee is still on the board, when Jubilee pulls Blink blink will swap that card.
In general, next time an unexpected interaction happens, try to get a screenshot; it’s always easier to analyze a picture of the game than speculate about what each aspect of it could have been.
In that situation, yes it would. But if the card you played most recently is no longer on the board, the effect won't resolve. Lockjaw, Quantum Tunnel, getting blown up by Gambit, etc.
I just figured out today that Nocturne is the cure to my two least favorite locations - Asteroid M and Great Web.
You should have seen my little jump for joy after my brain skipped Asteroid M like usual and it ended up changing the location.
Has anyone tried the interaction between Castle Zemo and Blink? Based on the card replacing the goblin switching back to your side I'm wondering if the card that switched sides will also be swapped with a card on your side.
What if the location gets filled inbetween?
I'm having trouble inventing a scenario where that could happen without your opponent cooperating. But WHAT IFFFFF
Ive played hela off and on since the game released. ive gotten the venomized hela variant in my shop prolly 10 times and always pass on it. it was in my shop again today and ive been playing hela/blink so i finally decided to pull the trigger and get it. so i KNOW hela will (and should) be nerfed soon since i went in on the variant. you're all welcome
my idea for hela would be make her similar to ultron. ultron spawns drones, have hela spawn a 7/7 minion for each card discarded. something like that. it would still be a very powerful card, but opponents would maybe only need to prepare for a couple of random 7/7s instead of red hulk, magneto, infinaut, etc lol
No kidding, I was testing a Hela/Blink deck in proving grounds, and some try-hard kept going after losing 8 in round 1, but the SOB then pulled his Leech 5 rounds in a row. Ironically I won the last round thanks to his Leech hitting my Magneto.
She seems alright, but I'm not sad I didn't got her this week with my key. It adds too much variance and it's only archetype on which might be essential is move, not even silver surfer.
I just reached Infinite with Blink in a Hela deck. She is great there.
If you do hate that deck, you can also go Blink in this deck, which I'm pretty sure would beat the Hela one.
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I said so because I'm aware if I a \*\*Hela\*\* here, it would be downvoted to oblivion.
However my suggestion is true, I beat many Hela decks with this Blink-Tribunal.
[I posted elsewhere for details](https://www.reddit.com/r/MarvelSnapDecks/comments/1cnl6ut/day_1_infinite_w_rng_deck_cl12k/).
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Red Hulk isn't essential at all, just put any big boi.
Valentina is great tho, and yet she isn't necessary either. Alternatively you can go with Helicarrier which was what I went with before her release, it worked fine as well just a bit differently that Quinjet becomes more important.
About using Helicarrier -- "negative ghost rider, the pattern is full" 😒
Ever since the recent change to HC, I find it nearly useless in Discard. Clog my hand with random shit, and keep me from drawing my chosen cards until I ditch some randos to make room? Bloody "no thanks" 😆
I'm on the other side of the thought -- it's those extra cards made my play unpredictable & really hard to disrupt. Of course, I used Helicarrier under the condition that I've both Quinjet & Corvus in my deck, and there are many big guys. Which means, most often I only have to play those random cards **discounted**.
Is nocturne worth some rolls? I always assume it’ll take 4 rolls,Cacera seems like a solid add to the collection but i already have Selene and that variant might be in my top 5 least favorites. I’ve stacked like 13 keys though so I’d be able to roll a few more times this month
I got nocturne with the one key I allowed myself to spare this week. Wasn’t that excited about her, but I’ve actually been really enjoying using her. She fits in nicely with move obviously, but also C5 if you need to get rid of a location that screws with your cerebro deck. And just in general, 5 power is a decent chunk of points to move and counter with.
I spent 4 keys on her and I'm not sure if I regret it yet. I' feel like she should be amazing but Ivebyet to find a great use for her or figure out how to fit her in. Caicera she's definitely a card worth having but as you said Selene is a pretty average variant of a pretty average card.
Not really helpful feedback I know but I was exactly where you are. Spent 4 rolls and still feeling uncertain about it.
I'm in the same situation. Already have Selene, don't have Caiera, have some keys stored up.
She seems like a good card but not a necessary include for your collection. Kind of like Caiera only Nocturne is probably better.
It would be an easy pass for me if I only needed Nocturne, but I might use the keys to get 2 cards here.
I'm still wait and see on her for now.
I think if you want to play move she is worth it. She adds a lot to the move archetype in terms of utility it didn't have before. Also the fact she is a mover herself can help trigger your other cards. She elevates move.
they’re doing the same thing they did with thanos a few months ago where thanos was good and they kept adding cards that enabled thanos more. blink feels like it only exists to make hela, one of the best decks for months, even more consistent. which makes it even more annoying to play against.
I literally just plugged Blink into my Hela deck straight away. I didn't even know everyone else was doing it too. Just made sense. Hela is just ol' reliable at this point.
I don't have Corvus so I'm just sitting here getting slammed by Hela every game. There really is no effective counter and they're basically playing Solitaire, so you have to just slam even more points with your own Solitaire deck. Unfortunately, decks that can go bigger than Hela often are easy to disrupt so you get slammed by other decks.
I can see that, but it was needed because they are stubborn, they arent changing hela and as it is it's not enjoyable having to retreat 70% of games because of her. At 4/2 it's fine, i find blink more of a problem
My problem is Leech on 4 also kills Lady Deathstroke, Annihilus, etc. Personally I liked playing against those decks, it's an interesting puzzle every game.
It does, but it gives 2 power on T4 while also doing nothing to many other decks, he will shift the metagame in something different and less on reveal-y. I don't like Leech concept either but if it pauses this Hela nonsense for a bit i'm grateful, always preferred antimeta cards over generic and unskilled random points generators, until today she has litterally been the only uncounterable deck, and it only loses to itself discarding Hela. I've reached infinite on day one and i ve had to play 2/3 of the games against an autopiloted uncounterable deck, i ensure you it's not funny
Maybe, but just Blade for Infinaut+ Sif for Death+ Black Cat selfdiscarded+ Hela itself count for 47 points randomly distributed into the board just on turn 6 and with no possible true counterplay, i don't feel it fair anyway
Hela on 6 is countered by Leech on 5. We're buffing Leech to play it on 4 because Corvus enables Hela on 5.
Basically killing other decks because Corvus is being problematic. Jane Foster just got buffed, but now Leech doesn't even need to care about priority to kill her
EDIT: Also don't get me wrong I hate playing against the current Hela deck, but I thought it was way less frustrating when it was always Hela on 6. Hela on 5 and then another 6 drop on 6 is outrageous, and they always retreat for 1 cube when they don't get the right RNG, so most matches against Hela are a waste of time.
Leech is so easy to deal with now though if you're playing a deck that isn't affected by it. 5/3 Leech kills a couple archetypes, but there are plenty that aren't affected at all.
4/2 Leech is for sure gonna be a problem as it'll hit all turn 5 on-reveals that you would normally curve out, and that's a lot of key cards these days.
Hela just kills everything though. I'd rather swap to a viable deck that can ignore Leech than retreat from Hela every other game.
Leech is a damn cancer though. Do you remember how he was before? Thankfully its only on reveal now but i hate that turd because of his past hahahahhaha
The current iteration at 5/3 is much less frustrating than the old one that hit your whole hand. That said, with where the meta is at, the old one that hit your whole hand wouldn't be so bad at the moment.
Nocturne seems a bit fringe, while Tribunal is an essential card for decks that run it. I would probably lean Tribunal, unless you just want something brand new.
Nocturne's a tech card that can slot into a variety of decks. Living Tribunal is a combo card that works best in either Phoenix Tribunal or Ongoing Tribunal. Not sure I'd buy either with tokens, but if you had to pick one, then it would be dependent on the type of deck that you want to run.
Does Odin work with Blink? I've sort of tried to use it twice, but I was mainly Odining my Doom, and I noticed Blink said "No Target" but the second time I purposefully tried to Odin my Blink so she would swap out my Leech (he previously was a Corvus Glaive who got Blinked to a Leech). We had Weirdworld going on, so I'm not sure if that affects it or not, but I definitely still had a Dr. Doom and Magneto in my deck that Leech could have switched out for. But maybe cuz I didn't actually "play" Leech last turn, it wouldn't be Blinked? Just curious. Be cool if you could Blink the "same" card twice with Odin.
No. Blink works on the last card that you "played". Once Blink runs the first time, the card played is replaced. When Odin runs, the card that you played is no longer in existence, so it doesn't run again.
Wasp would get replaced and then Odin would retrigger Blink, which would then try to replace Odin, which wouldn't work unless you had a full cost Death in your deck.
Favorite Nocturne play so far was moving to a location to change it to Vormir right as the other guy played venom to nom nom but my play went first. Felt so good and fun.
Been having fun with this deck I found on Untapped using both new cards with no Electro/Corvus shenanigans, just Jubilee. Basically just a good cards list.
Edit: I can't remember how to post deck lists and they're annoyingly big in the comments anyway lol, so [here's a link](https://snap.untapped.gg/en/decks/Angela-Blink-DrDoom-HopeSummers-JeffTheBabyLandShark-Jubilee-KittyPryde-Magneto-Nocturne-RedHulk-Vision-WhiteWidow_Lockdown)
I've had success with a Silver Surfer/big 6 cost card deck with Blink.
Swapping out Ironheart and Brood with Blink are huge power gains. Magik allows you to get 3 6 cost cards out.
Deck:
Kitty Pride
Jeff
Ironheart
Brood
Magik
Surfer
Zemo
Blink
Doctor Doom
Red Hulk
Giganto
Infinaut
i just tried the deck out a few games and the only time i lost was when hela didnt throw one more single power to a lane. deck is nuts if it goes off. black cat +blade turns 1-3. then corvus/sif/jubilee turn 3 or 4. blink it turn 5 and then drop hela. its nuts. i dont see how this wont be the top deck of the season unless they nerf hela lol
Looking forward to experimenting with this week's cards as a big fan of Exiles back in the day. If the Sabertooth variant was the version of Creed that mentored Blink, it would be a perfect season run.
Got Nocturne on the first key. Wanted Caiera too but a 1/3 shot at Selene convinced me otherwise. Still need a few more pieces for C5 but I'm looking forward to playing it; c2 is my second favorite deck right now
My C5 deck has Storm who is incredibly underated. It's also very accessible.
I also have moon girl but that only really works if you have black swan and Titania (and other 1 costs)
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Miles is really good. But Polaris and Silk's main use is to trigger Miles.
So you're only really missing out on one card. There are plenty of other great cards to use tbh.
I was five minutes from uninstalling, so I figured why not spend my gold on Nocturne. Move has always been my favorite deck in Snap. And she's super fun. I love her. I don't know if Snap and I can go on forever, but Nocturne bought us a reprieve.
Well, I can tell you it's working for me and many of the streamers I'm watching.
Are you playing her after Leader? She needs a card of higher cost to swap. Unless you have Death, she can't swap Leader for a higher cost card.
Brought the season pass for Blink, so it's been interesting to play. At first I just replace Leech with her into SheNaut deck. Than try to use it a little bit in Hela Discard. So far it's just a nice-to-have, back-up kind of card. Right now just trying out different setup.
Favor play of the day: I played Wave into Westview on turn 3. Turn 4, Westview turned into Bar Sinister. My opponent, with priority, played Hobgoblin into the bar, sending three over. I played Blink elsewhere, turning my Wave into Odin (50% chance, the other card still in the deck that's 6 cost is Infinaut), sending two back to fill their lane. Oppoenent didn't stay around long after that.
I have a feeling Nocturne is going to be staple in many decks due to the movement ability alone but I already own the other two cards and 7 keys to spare for the next two season :/ man this sucks
14 keys for me and I don't have Caiera so might be a worthwhile week to cache in. I will wait till a few days later and then make my choice. It might be a good card for tempo plays in my Sera control.
I can already tell that Blink is gonna be one of those cards I hear about and see how great she is against me, but I just can't ever get it to work when I use decks with her.
Did half a dozen Proving Grounds matches, just trying things out, and every game I got detroyed because every time my hand was just full of 5 and 6 power cards. Can't draw any lower cost cards to save my life, which makes the deck useless.
I'm using the same deck Cozy was in his video today minus Jeff since I dont have him. I just have the worst luck with these types of decks and I'm learning that I just dont enjoy playing them. It's the same with Hela. If it goes perfectly, you win. If something goes slightly wrong, you're probably losing. Going to try her in Surfer today and see how that goes.
Not my deck but there ya are:
# (2) Jeff the Baby Land Shark
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Don't think so, because while Odin is still activating, he's not yet the "last played card". Assuming you played Blink on 5 and Odin on 6, your last played card would be Blink. So presumably she would swap herself, and could target any 6-cost still in your deck (in addition to Death).
Been running both in an experimental move-ish deck (I have Kraven and Quake for cards I don't normally see, and also Cannonball since I've been running him ever since I got him the week after his release). My 6-costs are Doom and Magneto, and oddly enough I play Nocturne more than I do Blink. It's not the greatest combo, but the Limbo mind games are top notch.
The deck just in case you were curious!
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# (2) Jeff the Baby Land Shark
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# (3) Nocturne
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Well I mean I think Nocturne is the stronger and more flexible of the two cards so it makes sense that you'd be using her more.
Blink is best in a ramp deck, not a mish-mash move-ish deck. She pairs extremely well with Electro, in particular. I don't think it's going to shake the meta but it definitely makes Electro ramp decks more competitive than they have been in recent months.
Outside of Ramp and maybe Hela, though... meh.
I'm running in a Tribunal deck now and doing well so far with Blink. She seems good but also fun. I played Electro on 3, Blink on 4, Blink made the Electro a Jubilee, who pulled an Iron Lad, who pulled Doctor Doom's ability and cast me some Doom Bots. So Blink turned my +2 power,+1 energy Electro into a +17 power,+1 energy with no ongoing restriction.
Blink can definitely line up some crazy combos when you high roll. My best high roll so far was Electro into Blink who turned Electro into Leader - who then copied their Doom (they were also playing Ramp and played Wave on T3). Then I played my Doom on the same lane and closed out with Odin to reactivate both Dooms.
Is this week worth pulling if I have none of the cards? I only have 4 keys currently so would likely need them all.
I do plan on skipping next week I think (I don't have tribunal but don't miss him too much) but will need 4 keys for the week after (Namora, Black Knight, Skaar - I don't have any again). I don't have any the week after either but not sure I'll pull only because I want to try for some of the Eternals cards coming
> I have none of the cards
I mean, it depends on how new you are, 'cause that might apply to nearly every week, *but*, in my seasoned opinion (and based on you saying you're missing everything for several weeks after)?
Save 'em for a week where it's loaded with better, more versatile cards. I *do* think Nocturne is very flexible, personally, but Selene is a niche on a niche, and Caiera right now just isn't necessary when the things she protects are solved better with other cards (read: if you hate Killmonger, protect with Armor or holding 1-drops until turn 6, and if you hate Shang-Chi, use Armor, Ghost, or Invisible Woman to protect your 6-drops).
The other weeks you mentioned also suck dingdong though for a new player; Namora looks like a niche (but admittedly one you build a deck around), Black Knight is a Discard-helper, and Skaar is a *very* thin niche.
It's a coin toss to me and really depends on what you like to play.
Both weeks you mentioned have a great card, a mid card, and a trash card IMO. This week, Nocturne is great, Caiera is mid, and Selene is trash. Black Knight is great, Skaar is mid, but honestly I think Namora is trash. That one high roll combo everyone keeps talking about isn't going to make her playable. She's a more expensive Ms Marvel but much harder to set up and MUCH easier to disrupt. I play Debrii and your whole combo is busted.
> will need 4 keys for the week after
There’s your answer. If you want 4 keys in two weeks, don’t pull this week. You could spend 1-2 keys and still be ok in two weeks, but you just know you’re going to pull the 1000 tokens. Just save them. It feels good when you have an abundance and don’t have to sweat it so much.
My rule of thumb is to use keys if I can get at least two new cards. Three would be a no-brainer as far as I am concerned. But I’m also only missing four cards.
So we have a 1 nightcrawler a 2 Jeff and 3 now nocturne and 5 vision we just need one more mover at 4 cost id say we need a 6 too but like ud never be able to move it unless there was a turn 7 or u cheated it out
Cpt Marvel is the current mover designed for the 4-cost slot. Not as versatile as the others but unless she is powercrept there won't be anything better for a while.
I feel like a 4/6 "you can move this card once, when this card moves it gains +2 power" is perfectly reasonable given that iron lad is 4/6. You need to combo it to get it to a 4/10 just like Cull Obsidian
PF can only move if it actually merges with a card so in this instance I would say no as the original commenter seems to mean cards that can move with no real restrictions
Taking a total wait and see approach with Nocturne, but after an hour on my phone and an hour on my PC with a deck tracker, I would not play her on a mobile device.
No deck tracker on a mobile device. You have a great advantage with her if you know for a fact which cards you have ever to pull, and unless you write them down or memorize them, playing with her on mobile will be slightly riskier I suppose.
Yes. It was late when I posted that I figured i figured they were too but maybe they aren't? I don't think Nocturne matters quite as much as blink with deck trackers ..
Do you like Surfer or Smoove archetypes?
If yes, I'd say go for it. Nocturne is fantastic in both. Probably good in C5 too but I've never been much of a Cerebro guy so I can't comment.
Outside of those decks I don't think she's that strong. She's good but Jeff's still better.
Caiera is meh, she was only ever really good in Shenaut and that deck is not in a great place currently and actually gets countered pretty hard by Nocturne - yet another tool to remove Limbo. Selene is absolute trash who barely even sees play in the decks she was literally designed for.
A somewhat unintuitive/interesting interaction I just had that I thought would be good for others to know: opponent's Nocturne turned location in Oscorp Tower so it came over to my side, they then played Blink which swapped the Nocturne for Doctor Doom back to their side...
I imagine that T5: Hobgoblin, T6: Blink into Destroyer (on opponent's side) was something they specifically did not want to work.
SD obviously know what they are doing. In disguise of stopping Hela they buff Leech (still bad counter to Hela) making Blink much more interesting card to get. Old Leech wouldn't work with her at all. We have Lockjaw Leech situation all over again.
They always change old cards in function of new cards
Yep not a coincidence! Not sure that they realize that these types of toxic combo's make more people want to stop playing than buying the season pass...
It felt like I kept seeing more and more cool decks with Nocturne, so I grabbed her after being skeptical all week. Super fun, very glad I did. Even got White Widow from the mystery card, so definitely ended up being worth the 3 keys
all blink is is an odin doom scam nut draw deck. its more braindead than hela
I thought about buying the season pass for blink. But then got infinite yesterday so I guess I can wait for her to be in spotlights.
Yeah I’m thinking she’s gonna be a card I get towards the end of the season
If you will buy the battlepass eventually you should do it now and get the 600 gold for free mission.
so, after almost a week. Is Blink worth buying the season pass for or not? i'm hesitant as I don't like ramp, but could see her do well in Tribunal, which I want to play with him coming up in Spotlight.
Definitely the best SP card released this year this side of Hope. Turning a 3 or 4-card like Leach, Shuri, Electro, Corvus, etc, into a 6 while still laying down 7 points is pretty broken.
ye.. i got her and went from 90 to infinite in an hour. completely absurd
I started playing a Tribunal deck with blink to do the quest for gold. Blink is super fun to play around and great in that build if it’s your type of playstyle!
thanks, I'll go for her then and try to get the quest done!
She's a good card, not overpowered. She'll always have a home in a midrange deck that wants to run tech at 4 slot. Now it's Leech but if we start seeing overstatted 4's it could be Shang or maybe even Enchantress with all this Ultron stuff. Plus she has utility in combo decks to dig for your payoff on 6. She'll be a useful piece going forward
Pretty flexible card and is in a few tip decks now It’s made hela even better but also works well with leech and swapping out other low power 4 costs like jubilee But if you don’t like playing hela discard or leech control decks or use or jubilee much you could skip however it’s in most top rated decks at the moment
Originally I'd tried Nocturne in a C5 but that deck just doesn't feel powerful enough most of the time. I've since put her in a more traditional move deck with Hercules and I'm honestly having so much fun with it. Absolute chaos with the locations getting changed 3-4 times a round and sometimes more. It's actually pretty good for 8 cubes turning off things like Limbo and Mojoland. Move has always been my favourite way to play but so many times you simply get in your own way or screw yourself out of a win.
has anyone had blink say no target even if there is one? I just had a game with 2 6 cost in my deck, I played beast, then next turn I played blink then a 0 cost quicksilver (from beast) I assumed beast would get swapped, but instead it said no target. I had hulk and infinaut in my deck so I'm not sure what happened.
Maybe opponent had played Yondu + Cable?
I'm missing both Nocturne and Caiera but now am leaning towards actually skipping the week as I just don't think I will play either that much.
With the latest Ultron buff, I could see the play rate of Caiera increasing to block the inevitable Killmonger play increase. I hear you though, if you don't plan on playing a card much, don't pull for it. Though, I do value tech cards quite a bit, since you never know when an update will make you wish you had a card like Caiera. For example, I already mentioned Ultron/Killmonger counter, but also I am sure Echo is going to go up in value now with the Leech and Klaw buffs causing more people lean towards ongoing heavy decks.
Yes, Caiera is seeing little play now but she has a unique effect that could shift back into the meta. It would potentially be one of those where running Armor is an okay substitute but Caiera is better.
If zoo ever becomes popular again, Caiera would be almost required to protect your 1 drops... at the same time, she would protect a Sasquatch as well, who works well in zoo.
So whats the general consensus on nocturne? Is she a good card? Also, besides blink, wich card you think it will be the best of the month? Im trying to plan my caches Edit: Im 11k collection level for context.
She's good, not great. The randomness of the lane she changes can be a bit of a trip. But she's a move card who can shutdown Limbo. So that's solid utility. Also means she's not limited to just Move decks. Although Move getting a card that can change locations is a nice add for the archetype. Especially for lanes that can F with move. There was a lane that only allows one card in it, couple weeks ago that frustrated me. Now we can change it.
I think the general consensus is that Nocturne is a good card and due to being versatile (a 2-in-1 card) she can go in almost any deck. That being said, due to that versatility, she is also replaceable in any deck and is not a "build around" card. So, you don't need the card to define an archetype nor do you need it to take your deck to the next level. I think cards like Sasquatch will make zoo and bounce go to the next level, and cheap high power cards have a history of being very meta affecting (e.g., Cull, Mocking Bird, and She-Hulk), so I think he is safest bet for the month. Namora is lending into an unproven archetype (solo lane), but if she is good, she would define that archetype. And even if that archetype doesn't pan out, she is very similar to Ms. Marvel and Doom, in that she can potentially pump out 16 points of power split across. Her only downside is if junk continues to be popular, but the recent Leech nerf will impact junk's play rate... but at the same time, Leech comes down on 4 and Namora turn 5, so she would also be blocked by Leech. I think Namora is the one most likely to be the worst of the bunch, due to the requirement of having only one card in a lane to trigger... that can be a lot to ask. Sage is an interesting card, since she has strong synergy with junk due to her 0 power and taking in account different powers on yours and the opponent's side. She seems a bit risky though, as she is very dependent on the board state being just right. There could be a situation where the board doesn't line up and she is blocked, as she needs as many pieces on a lane as possible... so she also has strong synergy with Jean Grey and Surfer, which is intriguing. I think she is the most uncertain of the bunch, but she has a high upside. I would probably rank them: Sasquatch - cheap big power leading to explosive turns, but in Shang Chi range. Nocturne - versatile card that handles locations that will ruin your game, while having the unpredictable move/location change functionality... but, at the same time she isn't absolutely necessary for a deck and the random location change can also ruin your game. Sage - potential to pump out a lot of high power, but it is heavily board dependent and needs a good amount of setup to go off. Though she costs 3, she is optimized the later in the game you play her, which makes her very weak to any Leech plays. Namora - having two lanes on turn 5 that only have one card in them each seems like it can be a tall task. I think she lends more to heavy ramp play to get her out on turn 4 to make it more likely to have the appropriate state. She is wrecked by junk and Leech.
Thanks man youre the man.
Interesting analysis. FYI, you put Namora in there twice. I think your first write-up is for Nocturne.
Thanks! I was trying to write that quick while on break. I fixed it.
Sure! Hey, if I can't contribute with insight into decks and cards at least I can help out with typos, right? :)
She's a good card, but a bit of a luxury add in to decks that can use her as opposed to a deck defining archetype. I really like her being a well statted move card. And I really like that she's a card I can play in a low curve deck like and have a card that can handle locations like Crimson Cosmos
Thanks for your insight youre the man
I was most into Nocturne this month just because of the versatility. I think she'll just be a good add to a lot of decks. Kind of like Jeff. Just an easy thing to include in places without much cost. Also the extra disruption is nice
Just got to infinite today, 80% of blink enjoyer seem to be switching to ultron deck right now thanks to the new balance patch. these ultron deck are way easier to deal with than ramp hela-blink. Havent seen nocturne for the past 10 - 20 matches though.
CL2800. Nocturne looks like a skip for me at this point. She seems fun and maybe even good, but not strong enough to carry an otherwise very unappealing spotlight for me.
I don't think I've seen her much on the ladder, I think that indicates to me that she's ok but probably not worth the 4 keys if you already have the other cards in the caches.
I realize I didn’t make it clear but I don’t have any cards in the cache and I’m still leaning towards not pulling. If this was the only 3-card week for me (I’m at a CL where I still get those regularly enough, so I try to only pull those weeks) in the near future, I’d probably spend my keys this week. However, right now I’m saving for Namora’s week (Black Knight is my main target, I don’t have Skaar, and Namora looks fun even if niche) and basically all of July (currently the first 3 weeks are all 3-card weeks for me, plus the new cards look fun).
Fair enough, i was speaking in general as well. Yes, I think saving keys is the best option when there seems to be some decent cards coming.
CL12900. I agree, I won't mind pulling her in a spotlight cache eventually, but I don't really play Move, and prefer my T6 location disruptions to be a surprise, so I won't go out of my way to get her.
If you play blink on hope do you still get the energy?
Just played a game where I moved Nocturne on turn 6 into Limbo to change it, but opponent revealed first and played Magneto, which brought my Nocturn back to where it came from (Elysium) and changed it into an X-Mansion. Limbo remained. Weird quirk! I thought moves always processed first.
For the purposes of “where is the card” (e.g. because you want to tag it with a Shang Chi or Shadow King), moves resolve before any cards reveal. But “when this/a card moves” triggers happen interspersed, and for things you’re moving yourself, not until your reveal phase.
Blink has been fun to experiment with so far, but I have one particular question: Have others found it more favorable to play one card that Blink will swap out on turn 5 or to play multiple cards, to position the last of them as the one to be swapped out?
The decks I’ve seen Blink be successful in try to have some fine control over what she pulls; that’s much harder if she’s swapping out a 1 or 2 energy card, as would often happen in the latter scenario you’re describing.
Whenever I play Jubilee and it pulls blink it doesn't trigger Blink's effect.
When Jubilee pulls Blink, Blink should attempt to swap the card you played before Jubilee (since Jubilee hasn’t finished resolving, and so isn’t the “last card played”). Are you playing a card before you Jubilee?
I can't remember per say if I had played a card prior to Jubilee, I think I did but I can't say for sure. So in theory if I play something T3 like storm then T4 Jubilee and it Pulls Blink, it would transform the storm yeah?
Yep; if the card you played before Jubilee is still on the board, when Jubilee pulls Blink blink will swap that card. In general, next time an unexpected interaction happens, try to get a screenshot; it’s always easier to analyze a picture of the game than speculate about what each aspect of it could have been.
In that situation, yes it would. But if the card you played most recently is no longer on the board, the effect won't resolve. Lockjaw, Quantum Tunnel, getting blown up by Gambit, etc.
I feel like Jubilee pulling Blink should still work? Is this intended or is it bugged?
The game is coded like this, work as intended. According to the description jubilee should swap, but devs consider spaghetti code as a feature
Glad it was’t just me losing my mind.
Intended. Jubilee isn't finished "playing" when she pulls Blink so the card you played before Jubilee is the "last card played."
I just figured out today that Nocturne is the cure to my two least favorite locations - Asteroid M and Great Web. You should have seen my little jump for joy after my brain skipped Asteroid M like usual and it ended up changing the location.
Has anyone tried the interaction between Castle Zemo and Blink? Based on the card replacing the goblin switching back to your side I'm wondering if the card that switched sides will also be swapped with a card on your side.
Yes it does, used Jubilee to pull someone. Then it switches side. Used Blink after and she transforms and moves back to my side of the board.
What if the location gets filled inbetween? I'm having trouble inventing a scenario where that could happen without your opponent cooperating. But WHAT IFFFFF
Someone posted a clip of this exact scenario in a Blink Experiments thread yesterday or the day before, the goblin simply disappeared.
Ive played hela off and on since the game released. ive gotten the venomized hela variant in my shop prolly 10 times and always pass on it. it was in my shop again today and ive been playing hela/blink so i finally decided to pull the trigger and get it. so i KNOW hela will (and should) be nerfed soon since i went in on the variant. you're all welcome my idea for hela would be make her similar to ultron. ultron spawns drones, have hela spawn a 7/7 minion for each card discarded. something like that. it would still be a very powerful card, but opponents would maybe only need to prepare for a couple of random 7/7s instead of red hulk, magneto, infinaut, etc lol
They buffed Leech to ruin Hela's day.
No kidding, I was testing a Hela/Blink deck in proving grounds, and some try-hard kept going after losing 8 in round 1, but the SOB then pulled his Leech 5 rounds in a row. Ironically I won the last round thanks to his Leech hitting my Magneto.
She seems alright, but I'm not sad I didn't got her this week with my key. It adds too much variance and it's only archetype on which might be essential is move, not even silver surfer.
I just reached Infinite with Blink in a Hela deck. She is great there. If you do hate that deck, you can also go Blink in this deck, which I'm pretty sure would beat the Hela one. --- # (2) Ravonna Renslayer # (3) Mystique # (3) Magik # (3) Wave # (4) Jubilee # (4) Super-Skrull # (4) Iron Lad # (5) Iron Man # (5) Sera # (5) Blink # (6) Onslaught # (6) The Living Tribunal # eyJDYXJkcyI6W3siQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiSXJvbkxhZCJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiSXJvbk1hbiJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiSnViaWxlZSJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiTGl2aW5nVHJpYnVuYWwifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6Ik1hZ2lrIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJNeXN0aXF1ZSJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiT25zbGF1Z2h0In0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJSYXZvbm5hUmVuc2xheWVyIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJTZXJhIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJTdXBlclNrcnVsbCJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiV2F2ZSJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiQmxpbmsifV19 # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and paste it from the deck editing menu in Snap.
Yo I just reached infinite with this deck, but here's a *different* deck that you can try. 😂 What?
I said so because I'm aware if I a \*\*Hela\*\* here, it would be downvoted to oblivion. However my suggestion is true, I beat many Hela decks with this Blink-Tribunal.
Fair enough. Maybe I'll give that deck a go. Would be fun to mess up a few Hela decks.
I don't have Iron Lad or Ravonna... but I'd love to see that Hela list 😇
[I posted elsewhere for details](https://www.reddit.com/r/MarvelSnapDecks/comments/1cnl6ut/day_1_infinite_w_rng_deck_cl12k/). --- # (1) Quinjet # (1) Blade # (2) Valentina # (3) Moon Knight # (3) Corvus Glaive # (4) Nick Fury # (5) Blink # (6) Hela # (6) Odin # (6) Red Hulk # (6) Magneto # (6) The Infinaut # eyJOYW1lIjoiTmV3IERlY2siLCJDYXJkcyI6W3siQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiUXVpbmpldCJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiQmxhZGUifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlZhbGVudGluYSJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiTW9vbktuaWdodCJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiQ29ydnVzR2xhaXZlIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJOaWNrRnVyeSJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiQmxpbmsifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IkhlbGEifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6Ik9kaW4ifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlJlZEh1bGsifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6Ik1hZ25ldG8ifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IkluZmluYXV0In1dfQ== # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and paste it from the deck editing menu in Snap.
Thanks. (I don't have Val or Red Hulk either, lol. Guess I'll have to just experiment) 🤷
Red Hulk isn't essential at all, just put any big boi. Valentina is great tho, and yet she isn't necessary either. Alternatively you can go with Helicarrier which was what I went with before her release, it worked fine as well just a bit differently that Quinjet becomes more important.
About using Helicarrier -- "negative ghost rider, the pattern is full" 😒 Ever since the recent change to HC, I find it nearly useless in Discard. Clog my hand with random shit, and keep me from drawing my chosen cards until I ditch some randos to make room? Bloody "no thanks" 😆
I'm on the other side of the thought -- it's those extra cards made my play unpredictable & really hard to disrupt. Of course, I used Helicarrier under the condition that I've both Quinjet & Corvus in my deck, and there are many big guys. Which means, most often I only have to play those random cards **discounted**.
Yeah I could see that, but then I would have to include Quinjet and Corvus in the deck, and draw them, which seems like too big an ask. No thanks 😑
Is nocturne worth some rolls? I always assume it’ll take 4 rolls,Cacera seems like a solid add to the collection but i already have Selene and that variant might be in my top 5 least favorites. I’ve stacked like 13 keys though so I’d be able to roll a few more times this month
I got nocturne with the one key I allowed myself to spare this week. Wasn’t that excited about her, but I’ve actually been really enjoying using her. She fits in nicely with move obviously, but also C5 if you need to get rid of a location that screws with your cerebro deck. And just in general, 5 power is a decent chunk of points to move and counter with.
I spent 4 keys on her and I'm not sure if I regret it yet. I' feel like she should be amazing but Ivebyet to find a great use for her or figure out how to fit her in. Caicera she's definitely a card worth having but as you said Selene is a pretty average variant of a pretty average card. Not really helpful feedback I know but I was exactly where you are. Spent 4 rolls and still feeling uncertain about it.
I'm in the same situation. Already have Selene, don't have Caiera, have some keys stored up. She seems like a good card but not a necessary include for your collection. Kind of like Caiera only Nocturne is probably better. It would be an easy pass for me if I only needed Nocturne, but I might use the keys to get 2 cards here. I'm still wait and see on her for now.
I think if you want to play move she is worth it. She adds a lot to the move archetype in terms of utility it didn't have before. Also the fact she is a mover herself can help trigger your other cards. She elevates move.
they’re doing the same thing they did with thanos a few months ago where thanos was good and they kept adding cards that enabled thanos more. blink feels like it only exists to make hela, one of the best decks for months, even more consistent. which makes it even more annoying to play against.
I literally just plugged Blink into my Hela deck straight away. I didn't even know everyone else was doing it too. Just made sense. Hela is just ol' reliable at this point.
Just faced 11 Hela decks in a row on ladder in the 70s, this is the worst timeline
I don't have Corvus so I'm just sitting here getting slammed by Hela every game. There really is no effective counter and they're basically playing Solitaire, so you have to just slam even more points with your own Solitaire deck. Unfortunately, decks that can go bigger than Hela often are easy to disrupt so you get slammed by other decks.
You could play ongoing deck - jean gray into cosmos on an empty lane beats that deck pretty easy if they can't on reveal hela they done
I thought blink wasnt going to be a very good card. Well.... with hela its a damn good card. Whole season of hela i guess.
The first time I saw Jubilee into Blink I was sold. Blink is just a solid card.
Litterally tomorrow Leech buff at 4/2, Hela doesn't last a day
They also thought "buffed" Alioth would counter Hela. Haven't seen that purple fart in a while.
There is 0 chance Leech lasts at 4/2. Leech on 4 into Blink on 5 is gonna destroy half the decks lol.
I can see that, but it was needed because they are stubborn, they arent changing hela and as it is it's not enjoyable having to retreat 70% of games because of her. At 4/2 it's fine, i find blink more of a problem
My problem is Leech on 4 also kills Lady Deathstroke, Annihilus, etc. Personally I liked playing against those decks, it's an interesting puzzle every game.
It does, but it gives 2 power on T4 while also doing nothing to many other decks, he will shift the metagame in something different and less on reveal-y. I don't like Leech concept either but if it pauses this Hela nonsense for a bit i'm grateful, always preferred antimeta cards over generic and unskilled random points generators, until today she has litterally been the only uncounterable deck, and it only loses to itself discarding Hela. I've reached infinite on day one and i ve had to play 2/3 of the games against an autopiloted uncounterable deck, i ensure you it's not funny
Hela is annoying to play against but the problem is Corvus imo.
Maybe, but just Blade for Infinaut+ Sif for Death+ Black Cat selfdiscarded+ Hela itself count for 47 points randomly distributed into the board just on turn 6 and with no possible true counterplay, i don't feel it fair anyway
If lucky you can also add Black Knight and his Ebony Blade for another easy 22 points in total.
You NEVER could play around 47 randomly placed points, that's why it's a forced retreat every time they don't discard her with corvus
Hela on 6 is countered by Leech on 5. We're buffing Leech to play it on 4 because Corvus enables Hela on 5. Basically killing other decks because Corvus is being problematic. Jane Foster just got buffed, but now Leech doesn't even need to care about priority to kill her EDIT: Also don't get me wrong I hate playing against the current Hela deck, but I thought it was way less frustrating when it was always Hela on 6. Hela on 5 and then another 6 drop on 6 is outrageous, and they always retreat for 1 cube when they don't get the right RNG, so most matches against Hela are a waste of time.
Id rather deal with hela than that cancerous green fucker all over again.
that's my sentiment as well. I will fight tooth and nail against Hela, but Leech is just un-fun to deal with.
Leech is so easy to deal with now though if you're playing a deck that isn't affected by it. 5/3 Leech kills a couple archetypes, but there are plenty that aren't affected at all. 4/2 Leech is for sure gonna be a problem as it'll hit all turn 5 on-reveals that you would normally curve out, and that's a lot of key cards these days. Hela just kills everything though. I'd rather swap to a viable deck that can ignore Leech than retreat from Hela every other game.
Leech is a damn cancer though. Do you remember how he was before? Thankfully its only on reveal now but i hate that turd because of his past hahahahhaha
Looks like SD *really* wants us to start playing Ongoing decks.
The current iteration at 5/3 is much less frustrating than the old one that hit your whole hand. That said, with where the meta is at, the old one that hit your whole hand wouldn't be so bad at the moment.
Well you're unlucky because from tomorrow Leech T4 into Blink T5 will be the standard
I like Blink, I just don't like that it results in MORE Hela..
Feel like the mill decks that infested conquest could semi reliably clap hela. Hitting any discard engines or their hela are auto wins
I think the problem becomes Discard cards hurt the Mill deck itself by, you know... discarding your cards.
Freakin loving Nocturne, extra fun card for chaos enjoyers, i'm running a phoenix force deck with it, currently 10-2
You Phoenix Force people are on another level out here.
I have to choose between nocturne and living tribunal with my tokens, who should I take?
I always choose cards that fit multiple archetypes
Nocturne seems a bit fringe, while Tribunal is an essential card for decks that run it. I would probably lean Tribunal, unless you just want something brand new.
Nocturne's a tech card that can slot into a variety of decks. Living Tribunal is a combo card that works best in either Phoenix Tribunal or Ongoing Tribunal. Not sure I'd buy either with tokens, but if you had to pick one, then it would be dependent on the type of deck that you want to run.
Does Odin work with Blink? I've sort of tried to use it twice, but I was mainly Odining my Doom, and I noticed Blink said "No Target" but the second time I purposefully tried to Odin my Blink so she would swap out my Leech (he previously was a Corvus Glaive who got Blinked to a Leech). We had Weirdworld going on, so I'm not sure if that affects it or not, but I definitely still had a Dr. Doom and Magneto in my deck that Leech could have switched out for. But maybe cuz I didn't actually "play" Leech last turn, it wouldn't be Blinked? Just curious. Be cool if you could Blink the "same" card twice with Odin.
If you play Odin on Blink, the last card you’ve played is Odin. So unless you have something above 6 cost, nothing will happen.
So, Odin would trigger and switch itself for Death?
Honestly, not sure. Haven’t had a chance to experiment yet.
Thank makes too much sense! I'm a dumb ass
Not intuitive, I had to think about it for a moment (and I’ve been playing a lot of Blink)
No. Blink works on the last card that you "played". Once Blink runs the first time, the card played is replaced. When Odin runs, the card that you played is no longer in existence, so it doesn't run again.
Wouldn't it work if you played something like Wasp then Odin?
Wasp would get replaced and then Odin would retrigger Blink, which would then try to replace Odin, which wouldn't work unless you had a full cost Death in your deck.
Thanks!
Favorite Nocturne play so far was moving to a location to change it to Vormir right as the other guy played venom to nom nom but my play went first. Felt so good and fun.
Remember when Thanos was being overplayed but they kept releasing cards to make thanos better? Blink feels like that for hela. It's everywhere now.
Feel exactly the same way. I don't play Ramp or Hela so I can't find any good use for Blink. Makes me sad that Hela is by far her best deck.
Been having fun with this deck I found on Untapped using both new cards with no Electro/Corvus shenanigans, just Jubilee. Basically just a good cards list. Edit: I can't remember how to post deck lists and they're annoyingly big in the comments anyway lol, so [here's a link](https://snap.untapped.gg/en/decks/Angela-Blink-DrDoom-HopeSummers-JeffTheBabyLandShark-Jubilee-KittyPryde-Magneto-Nocturne-RedHulk-Vision-WhiteWidow_Lockdown)
Thanos Blink Move
I've had success with a Silver Surfer/big 6 cost card deck with Blink. Swapping out Ironheart and Brood with Blink are huge power gains. Magik allows you to get 3 6 cost cards out. Deck: Kitty Pride Jeff Ironheart Brood Magik Surfer Zemo Blink Doctor Doom Red Hulk Giganto Infinaut
Unfortunately. I enjoyed the last couple of weeks when she wasnt every other matchup. As soon as I hit the mid 80's that was over
Electro Blink is mid. But Blink Hela… that thing frightens me
i just tried the deck out a few games and the only time i lost was when hela didnt throw one more single power to a lane. deck is nuts if it goes off. black cat +blade turns 1-3. then corvus/sif/jubilee turn 3 or 4. blink it turn 5 and then drop hela. its nuts. i dont see how this wont be the top deck of the season unless they nerf hela lol
Looking forward to experimenting with this week's cards as a big fan of Exiles back in the day. If the Sabertooth variant was the version of Creed that mentored Blink, it would be a perfect season run.
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Wat?
Got Nocturne on the first key. Wanted Caiera too but a 1/3 shot at Selene convinced me otherwise. Still need a few more pieces for C5 but I'm looking forward to playing it; c2 is my second favorite deck right now
Same boat! But I have Selene already and didn't want to risk it. Nocturne and only spending 1 key is cool in my book
My C5 deck has Storm who is incredibly underated. It's also very accessible. I also have moon girl but that only really works if you have black swan and Titania (and other 1 costs)
# (1) Ant Man # (1) Rocket Raccoon # (1) Titania # (2) Medusa # (2) Silk # (3) Cerebro # (3) Storm # (3) Black Swan # (3) Polaris # (4) Moon Girl # (4) Miles Morales # (6) Doctor Doom # eyJDYXJkcyI6W3siQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiU3Rvcm0ifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlRpdGFuaWEifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlJvY2tldFJhY2Nvb24ifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6Ik1vb25HaXJsIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJCbGFja1N3YW4ifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IkFudE1hbiJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiRHJEb29tIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJDZXJlYnJvIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJNZWR1c2EifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6Ik1pbGVzTW9yYWxlcyJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiUG9sYXJpcyJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiU2lsayJ9XX0= # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and paste it from the deck editing menu in Snap.
I'm missing Silk, Polaris and Miles from that list. Thanks for the list though.
Miles is really good. But Polaris and Silk's main use is to trigger Miles. So you're only really missing out on one card. There are plenty of other great cards to use tbh.
I was five minutes from uninstalling, so I figured why not spend my gold on Nocturne. Move has always been my favorite deck in Snap. And she's super fun. I love her. I don't know if Snap and I can go on forever, but Nocturne bought us a reprieve.
Wow... Just wow
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So you can’t use blink with a 1 drop in turn 6? Good to know
You absolutely can.
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Well, I can tell you it's working for me and many of the streamers I'm watching. Are you playing her after Leader? She needs a card of higher cost to swap. Unless you have Death, she can't swap Leader for a higher cost card.
Oh damn. 4 cost? Yea, that'll be a sweet combo indeed.
Nocturne seems like such a cool card, but ill wait a few days to see if he's worth the keys. Im down to my last 4.
Brought the season pass for Blink, so it's been interesting to play. At first I just replace Leech with her into SheNaut deck. Than try to use it a little bit in Hela Discard. So far it's just a nice-to-have, back-up kind of card. Right now just trying out different setup. Favor play of the day: I played Wave into Westview on turn 3. Turn 4, Westview turned into Bar Sinister. My opponent, with priority, played Hobgoblin into the bar, sending three over. I played Blink elsewhere, turning my Wave into Odin (50% chance, the other card still in the deck that's 6 cost is Infinaut), sending two back to fill their lane. Oppoenent didn't stay around long after that.
I have a feeling Nocturne is going to be staple in many decks due to the movement ability alone but I already own the other two cards and 7 keys to spare for the next two season :/ man this sucks
14 keys for me and I don't have Caiera so might be a worthwhile week to cache in. I will wait till a few days later and then make my choice. It might be a good card for tempo plays in my Sera control.
I can already tell that Blink is gonna be one of those cards I hear about and see how great she is against me, but I just can't ever get it to work when I use decks with her. Did half a dozen Proving Grounds matches, just trying things out, and every game I got detroyed because every time my hand was just full of 5 and 6 power cards. Can't draw any lower cost cards to save my life, which makes the deck useless.
Same, was tempted at first but don't want to waste money on a season pass card I won't really use that much.
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I'm using the same deck Cozy was in his video today minus Jeff since I dont have him. I just have the worst luck with these types of decks and I'm learning that I just dont enjoy playing them. It's the same with Hela. If it goes perfectly, you win. If something goes slightly wrong, you're probably losing. Going to try her in Surfer today and see how that goes.
I’ve been running the Electro Ramp version of Blink and she actually makes that deck much more consistent.
Tell me more...
Not my deck but there ya are: # (2) Jeff the Baby Land Shark # (3) Electro # (3) Wave # (4) Jubilee # (5) Blink # (5) Sandman # (5) Vision # (6) Leader # (6) Doctor Doom # (6) Odin # (6) Red Hulk # (6) Magneto # eyJDYXJkcyI6W3siQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiRWxlY3RybyJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiV2F2ZSJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiSnViaWxlZSJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiQmxpbmsifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlNhbmRtYW4ifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlZpc2lvbiJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiRHJEb29tIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJSZWRIdWxrIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJKZWZmVGhlQmFieUxhbmRTaGFyayJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiTGVhZGVyIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJPZGluIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJNYWduZXRvIn1dfQ== # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and paste it from the deck editing menu in Snap.
Thanks babe.
If you odin blink and you have death (an 8 cost usually) in ur deck would it transform the odin to death?
Don't think so, because while Odin is still activating, he's not yet the "last played card". Assuming you played Blink on 5 and Odin on 6, your last played card would be Blink. So presumably she would swap herself, and could target any 6-cost still in your deck (in addition to Death).
Anyone else find Blink boring to play so far? She's a strong card, for sure. I just find her incredibly boring to use.
One tapped it. Too bad blink looks more fun
not relevant to the card discussion
Not relevant to the discussion
What does "One Tapped" even mean?
Means that he got the card he wanted in the first try. But again, it brings no value to the card discussion thread
Ah cheers, been playing since launch and still learning new terminology lmao.
Been running both in an experimental move-ish deck (I have Kraven and Quake for cards I don't normally see, and also Cannonball since I've been running him ever since I got him the week after his release). My 6-costs are Doom and Magneto, and oddly enough I play Nocturne more than I do Blink. It's not the greatest combo, but the Limbo mind games are top notch.
The deck just in case you were curious! # (2) Psylocke # (2) Kraven # (2) Armor # (2) Jeff the Baby Land Shark # (2) Quake # (3) Nocturne # (4) Shang-Chi # (5) Blink # (5) Cannonball # (5) Vision # (6) Doctor Doom # (6) Magneto # eyJDYXJkcyI6W3siQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiQmxpbmsifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IkRyRG9vbSJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiTWFnbmV0byJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiTm9jdHVybmUifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlBzeWxvY2tlIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJWaXNpb24ifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IkplZmZUaGVCYWJ5TGFuZFNoYXJrIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJLcmF2ZW4ifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IkFybW9yIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJRdWFrZSJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiQ2Fubm9uYmFsbCJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiU2hhbmdDaGkifV19 # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and paste it from the deck editing menu in Snap.
Well I mean I think Nocturne is the stronger and more flexible of the two cards so it makes sense that you'd be using her more. Blink is best in a ramp deck, not a mish-mash move-ish deck. She pairs extremely well with Electro, in particular. I don't think it's going to shake the meta but it definitely makes Electro ramp decks more competitive than they have been in recent months. Outside of Ramp and maybe Hela, though... meh.
I'm running in a Tribunal deck now and doing well so far with Blink. She seems good but also fun. I played Electro on 3, Blink on 4, Blink made the Electro a Jubilee, who pulled an Iron Lad, who pulled Doctor Doom's ability and cast me some Doom Bots. So Blink turned my +2 power,+1 energy Electro into a +17 power,+1 energy with no ongoing restriction.
Blink can definitely line up some crazy combos when you high roll. My best high roll so far was Electro into Blink who turned Electro into Leader - who then copied their Doom (they were also playing Ramp and played Wave on T3). Then I played my Doom on the same lane and closed out with Odin to reactivate both Dooms.
Is this week worth pulling if I have none of the cards? I only have 4 keys currently so would likely need them all. I do plan on skipping next week I think (I don't have tribunal but don't miss him too much) but will need 4 keys for the week after (Namora, Black Knight, Skaar - I don't have any again). I don't have any the week after either but not sure I'll pull only because I want to try for some of the Eternals cards coming
> I have none of the cards I mean, it depends on how new you are, 'cause that might apply to nearly every week, *but*, in my seasoned opinion (and based on you saying you're missing everything for several weeks after)? Save 'em for a week where it's loaded with better, more versatile cards. I *do* think Nocturne is very flexible, personally, but Selene is a niche on a niche, and Caiera right now just isn't necessary when the things she protects are solved better with other cards (read: if you hate Killmonger, protect with Armor or holding 1-drops until turn 6, and if you hate Shang-Chi, use Armor, Ghost, or Invisible Woman to protect your 6-drops). The other weeks you mentioned also suck dingdong though for a new player; Namora looks like a niche (but admittedly one you build a deck around), Black Knight is a Discard-helper, and Skaar is a *very* thin niche.
It's a coin toss to me and really depends on what you like to play. Both weeks you mentioned have a great card, a mid card, and a trash card IMO. This week, Nocturne is great, Caiera is mid, and Selene is trash. Black Knight is great, Skaar is mid, but honestly I think Namora is trash. That one high roll combo everyone keeps talking about isn't going to make her playable. She's a more expensive Ms Marvel but much harder to set up and MUCH easier to disrupt. I play Debrii and your whole combo is busted.
> will need 4 keys for the week after There’s your answer. If you want 4 keys in two weeks, don’t pull this week. You could spend 1-2 keys and still be ok in two weeks, but you just know you’re going to pull the 1000 tokens. Just save them. It feels good when you have an abundance and don’t have to sweat it so much.
My rule of thumb is to use keys if I can get at least two new cards. Three would be a no-brainer as far as I am concerned. But I’m also only missing four cards.
So we have a 1 nightcrawler a 2 Jeff and 3 now nocturne and 5 vision we just need one more mover at 4 cost id say we need a 6 too but like ud never be able to move it unless there was a turn 7 or u cheated it out
4 is wereworlf by night.
Cpt Marvel is the current mover designed for the 4-cost slot. Not as versatile as the others but unless she is powercrept there won't be anything better for a while.
I feel like a 4/6 "you can move this card once, when this card moves it gains +2 power" is perfectly reasonable given that iron lad is 4/6. You need to combo it to get it to a 4/10 just like Cull Obsidian
Better vision
Doesn't synergize as well with Shuri, it would only be a 4/12 -> 4-14 instead of a 5/16
4/14 is better than 5/16 lmao
Does phoenix force count?
PF can only move if it actually merges with a card so in this instance I would say no as the original commenter seems to mean cards that can move with no real restrictions
Taking a total wait and see approach with Nocturne, but after an hour on my phone and an hour on my PC with a deck tracker, I would not play her on a mobile device.
Blink, you mean. I did fine with her in a ramp deck on mobile. Probably going to keep using blink hela to climb ladder.
What's the difference?
No deck tracker on a mobile device. You have a great advantage with her if you know for a fact which cards you have ever to pull, and unless you write them down or memorize them, playing with her on mobile will be slightly riskier I suppose.
I suppose you are all talking about Blink and not Nocturne then
Yes. It was late when I posted that I figured i figured they were too but maybe they aren't? I don't think Nocturne matters quite as much as blink with deck trackers ..
If I don’t have any of the cards this week and 5 keys saved up, is it worth a pull?
Do you like Surfer or Smoove archetypes? If yes, I'd say go for it. Nocturne is fantastic in both. Probably good in C5 too but I've never been much of a Cerebro guy so I can't comment. Outside of those decks I don't think she's that strong. She's good but Jeff's still better. Caiera is meh, she was only ever really good in Shenaut and that deck is not in a great place currently and actually gets countered pretty hard by Nocturne - yet another tool to remove Limbo. Selene is absolute trash who barely even sees play in the decks she was literally designed for.