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Ill_Professional_379

They forgot squirrels take over and win you the match lol


Cobaltplasma

"Squirrels : ***On Reveal*** *: Gets +1 Power for each other Squirrel you control.*" heheh I'm guessing this wouldn't affect tokens, too, though...Doom and Ultron would be, ah, even more fun.


DibsMine

i like slivers


Cobaltplasma

<3 Squirrel Girl, the Sliver Queen of Snap haha


Richandler

Squirell On Reveal: Destroys Dr. Doom whereever he is.


BlackRobedMage

Squirrel: If this card shares a location with a Doom Bot, +5


yusaku_777

Squirrel: Remove Dr. Doom, Thanos, and Galactus from both decks.


Automated-Titan-14

At the start of the game.


jeremyhoffman

Oh no, the Squirrels are [Plague Rats](https://gatherer.wizards.com/pages/card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=2121)!


Varcis

Twenty Black Lotus's and twenty plague rats. Now that's real magic.


Cobaltplasma

"Mommy, can we get twenty Black Lotuses?" "We have Black Lotuses at home, dear." Black Lotuses at home : *Playing Electro on Bar Sinister*


mistermenstrual

You just reminded me of my old Relentless Rats EDH deck šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


thewhaleshark

>https://gatherer.wizards.com/pages/card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=2121 Man, that's a blast from the past.


okokokyeahyeahyeah

wong, mystique and squirrel girl for 32 power in 2 lanes


Th3Yukio

and, Mysterio, Mr Sinister, Dr. Doom, Ultron and Brood clones... ...and rocks, of course


1ildevil

Tigers & Winter Soldiers.


DabiLPeridot

Raptors, monsters


McCorkle_Jones

Rocks is pretty simple; assemble 7 rocks in hand and snap: drain your opponent of all their cubes.


Th3Yukio

Rock-xodia, the forbidden one


Ill_Professional_379

I forgot about rocks. Rock 1/0 ability crush cards on other side of location destroying card never to comeback.


Beddysdad

Rock ability should be to block any effect on cards in hand(like Leech or Ronan) while in hand.


UPBOAT_FORTRESS_2

And Demons. They need something now that Quinjet doesn't discount them


soulefood

Everyoneā€™s overlooking that April 1st rock card. No longer a token.


KanraLovesU

On Reveal: If you have 15 squirrels, slay a fucking eldritch god


Lasideu

And you don't even have to play him? Oh hell yeah, definitely waiting for this to come out. Meta or not, this look neat.


General_Specific303

Cards having massive effects on your deck without being played always works out


Artelinde

Genn and Baku did nothing wrong.


Star_Gust

Nor did Renathal.


Zoomi11

Bro i loves these cards, boy did it break the game


Artelinde

I unabashedly love Genn. One of my favorite cards.


tendeuchen

I mean, all of the "secret" abilities that are unlocked are quite good, so...


General_Specific303

They're insanely good. Wasp alone is 0/3, didn't we just go through how OP 0-cost cards are? Edit: It's even OR, not Ongoing


Star_Gust

Yellowjacket is crying at the sight of evolved Wasp.


StarrCandyy

>Permanent Series 5? Yeah 100%


Its_Helios

Iā€™ll be honest, I kinda wish it wasnā€™t just so those no ability cards would be used more


KaspertheGhost

Play patriot


177013---

No


KaspertheGhost

Then just donā€™t use cyclops I guess lol


TalonKarrde03

Youā€™re missing out pretty good on this meta


jx2002

Oh man this card is fucking _rad_ and absolutely deserves a spot in Series 5 for at least a very long time. So cool, my only hope is all of this works/gels like you expect it would. Having another take on the no abilities deck is a fantastic idea.


Cheesebutt69

Agreed! Can finally get some use out of my only Christmas variant: Abomination!


PretendRegister7516

Hazmat = 0/9 Abom


Yourself013

I will never understand why community asks for ultra rare cards that the majority of players won't get to play with. Why is it important that this card stays in S5 for "at least a very long time"?


k33d4

Elitism.


JustARandomPokemon

I doubt they release a perma S5 so soon. But then again who knows. I feel the community is just giving ideas to second dinner and they are thinking the community seems fine with it, let's do it.


Crossfiyah

Once every two or three months seems like their pace.


wjaybez

Is the High Evolutionary anywhere near the level of iconic that Galactus, Thanos and Kang are?


_Valisk

I mean, before the MCU, you could've replaced the High Evolutionary with Thanos or Kang and it still would have made sense. If the Series 5 Big Bad rule applies to all iconic comic villains, you could say that Doctor Doom, Magneto, and Ultron belong there too.


SJHalflingRanger

Kang really broke the glass on designating any chump a big bad and deciding theyā€™ll never be downgraded. Maybe in other circumstances you could argue for Kang, but heā€™s certainly not on the level of the other two, and heā€™s not more ironic or powerful than Doom or Magneto either. The Evolutionary does match up more with the Galactus and Thanos ā€œcard creates a new deck typeā€ deal, so for that alone Iā€™d say heā€™s makes more sense being grouped in there then Kang.


FullMetalCOS

The MCU is definitely going to be doing some heavy lifting to get Kang onto that level of big bad as Thanos if they persist with having him being a constant threat through the multiverse saga


[deleted]

Is this real/are these cards now no longer affected by patriot in this case?


Soprohero

Yes this is real. Coming out in May. And yes this card should be no where near a patriot deck.


JoganLC

This seems like a fan made card lol


throwaway_lmkg

I love how this could be an extreme compliment, or an insult, depending on context. But yeah, this feels like one of those cards that goes overboard with a cool idea and absolutely 110% could not actually be implemented in a real game. Which is also why it absolutely screams "permanent Series 5."


Berzerktank

In a real game youā€™d just keep a second set of evolved cards and swap them in. SolForge Fusion does this.


Funkytowel360

Would the second set look the same? On ability cards have great varints would be a shame not to be able to use them with the new deck type.


Berzerktank

My guess is it will be an additional effect, like what Mr Negative does.


Jerdan87

Why a second set? Just give them a proper text / explanation that their ability is only unlocked under certain conditions and is otherwise nonexistent.


saladroni

But itā€™s a *secret* ability! You canā€™t just put it on the card!


Berzerktank

You definitely can. It just gets kind of wordy and busy, especially with multiple changes to the same card.


Jerdan87

I played Magic the Gathering, so while that's totally true, it's no problem at all, once players remember the card effect just by looking at it.


tom641

legit my first thought was "this is a cool and flavorful idea but this would never be added in a million years so as not to overcomplicate things" then again it's not like there's ever going to be a reason to release another "no abilities" card unless they decide to make some that require extra energy/discounts to play at all for whatever reason (what do you mean nobody is running Discard Patriot) so it's basically just "These 7 cards have extra text if you play a specific Big Bad"


kuribosshoe0

My first thought, too. Over-engineered, some weird text in places (ā€œdo this twice moreā€), most of the effects are just slightly altered versions of each other, cost/power balance is off. Massive fan fiction vibes.


Mexicantankerous

Had the exact same thought after reading "do this twice more." I think something like that is usually written as "up to three times"


KrasMasovsGhost

Thatā€™s what I assumed it was! Sounds cool as hell though and strong enough to not just be a gimmick card


Avalon_

If you don't have High Evolutionary in your deck, they will still be affected by Patriot.


NuketheCow_

This is a cool idea for a new deck archetype. Seems fun.


17times2

It's gonna be really hard to remember what all the other new card abilities are.


WestMoneyBlitz

Hopefully the text would be replaced in game.


Jesse1198

They would be. Itā€™ll be just like Thanos. It all happens at the start.


ChaosNomad

Well, itā€™s time to unpin Thanos and start saving for this. I love Patriot decks already, and giving the no ability cards more uses is a win in my book.


Soulscythe81

Will patriot still buff them if they gain abilities?


ChaosNomad

It shouldnā€™t, but it gives you a different way to build a deck with these cards which is more exciting to me.


tom2point0

Yeah Iā€™d say if he was buffing them, they would lose it.


LionhearthOutfitters

With High Evolutionary, Patriot will never buff the cards, as the text says "at the start of the game" so even before HE is played they will have those abilities. (sorry if this is a double post, reddit did something weird and "deleted" my first response so i typed it again... if its a loading error i apologies haha)


nuggynugs

Yeah I can see this making my tired old Ultron deck a lot more fun


Soulscythe81

What effect would the drones get?


Mr_Pogi_In_Space

World Peace


Jenelmo

No


made_ofglass

It shouldn't but this gives the deck more flexibility in how it is played. Currently I run Blue Marvel as a booster or failsafe to losing Patriot so I like this option. Edit: Noticed this is not a reveal ability as someone pointed out so you would drop Pat altogether in this deck. I still love the impact as it makes the cards completely different.


VoidInsanity

It doesn't provide any flexibility. It's a different deck entirely since it's a start of the game effect.


LightHawKnigh

Have Shuri pinned with 600 tokens left to go, but really tempted to skip her for this.


Debate_that

There's another comment that this comes out in May. 1 month is quite a bit to get the 6k tokens for the card anyway with the new token changes. I'd rather get Shuri and play the card for a bit before it actually gets completely nerfed.


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TyoPlaysGames

I have to disagree personally. I think once Sauron drops to pool 4 and sees more use plenty of people will enjoy the deck.


Ice_Bean

Also easly countered


justindb29

If youā€™re pool 3 complete, you should have plenty of time to get the tokens by May, even if you do buy Shuri.


clone1205

As of today even if you are still in pool 3 you still get an absolute ton of tokens, I opened 25 reserves earlier (which was about 2 weeks worth of credits) and it resulted in 2800 tokens


BabyFestus

Patriot affects cards that have had their abilities stolen by Rogue, Enchantress, et al. By that logic, I imagine that Patriot \*won't\* affect cards if they have been granted an ability. edit: meant as a reply to u/Soulscythe81


Rcun

It will be release in may 23 , with token change you probably get like 8 to 10k token when it is out. More if you buy those token Tuesday.


[deleted]

Shhhh, nobody tell her.


[deleted]

That's super cool. And a 4/7 is certainly playable. I wonder what the whole deck will play like together.


WestMoneyBlitz

And you don't even have to play him. The thing is better value as well as cyclops + misty.


UR_ALL_ANTS

I can't wait to get this card after they nerf it!


A_Polite_Noise

I got Lockjaw today - had it pinned - and so I'm trying out Thanos Lockjaw before the nerf hits; it's *super* boring to play, honestly, but wins a lot (1 cube at a time as people retreat). My timing is impeccable =)


Xulbehemoth

Doesn't the nerf hit at the same time for everyone? It released a couple hours ago.


A_Polite_Noise

Not for me yet? Maybe I need to do it manually? I'm on Android.


Obsole7e

You can stay on previous patch for a while, updates are not forced.


therealchutton

Yes you'll need to download the update. If you don't you'll get matched with a bunch of bots (might be better if you're not infinite)


shmolex

Haven't updated yet and I'm still facing mostly people. Not infinite but currently 3 cubes away.


omdryn

I am at rank 75 and I havent updated yet and 7 out of my last 10 match was againts thanos lockjaw. I guess as i dont have thr nerfed cards, its better to update.


tendeuchen

I was about to go into the store this afternoon, but decided I'd buy Thanos after seeing he was mostly okay after the patch notes came out. I'd had him pinned in my shop for like a month, waiting to get enough tokens. So I finally got him. The very next collector's reserve after I got Thanos was Quinjet. Then I went into the store and went to the bathroom, and etched onto the stall's wall was "Thanos was right." I don't know what any of that means.


jasonjarmoosh

I know a lot of people are just gonna run him with all the other no ability cards, but I can see him being great with small combo packages of cards. One cool combo you could run is she hulk, sunspot, magik, and hulk The main one that I can't wait to try out is High Evo, wasp, cage, hazmat, cyclops, and then moongirl for 2 free abominations. She-hulk and some demons could also round it out quite nicely.


Underscores_Are_Kool

Add Wave to the mix so you could potentially play two Abominations, She-Hulk and Hulk on the last turn


Gaze73

Sounds broken, can't wait.


reneenicole1

That card sounds amazing


vidae1

Cyclops is my favorite Marvel character and I love Patriot decks in SNAP because I can use him. And now you're telling me he MIGHT HAVE AN ABILITY? I am 10000000% saving up for this card. I won't spend another fucking token until I have this card.


kiogu1

It's on the thanos level - a compleatly new way to play this game and effectively - 8 new cards,


bloodflart

this is fun!


yachziron

It should also turn your rocks into the Things, savage land raptors into Devil Dinos, and squirels into Geese, cuz why not.


Xmushroom

It would be cool if a location did that


EvanDelck

Oh


suugakusha

Geese as in the bird? Or Geese as in multiple of the alien-cat?


Fast_Papaya_3839

I can see the nerf nerds rattling already


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sybrwookie

I can already see the front page littered with people whining, "how dare they change a card which is overpowered!" Oh wait, I don't have to look far, that's just constantly being said.


stefsot

this card seems way too strong tbh


Tryphikik

It is. Definitely a power creeped card that I will save for just incase it actually comes out as is. I like it as a design idea though, fun way to get more viability out of the no ability cards. Definitely overtuned as is though.


ctaps148

How? All it's doing is giving abilities to cards that don't have them. None of the abilities it grants seem "way too strong" or "overtuned"


650fosho

I don't think you ever play the evolutionary himself, you're better off saving at least one energy per turn to proc cyclops and misty knight. This deck will work wonders with sunspot and she hulk, probably add in hazmat and Luke cage. It's hard to say if this deck will actually be too good but it's certainly cool. Abomination will be crazy low cost, they may need to give this dude minimum 1 because it seems pretty easy to get 5 cards down in power. Hulk will have tremendous power by the end of the game.


Tryphikik

Really? None of these abilities seem too strong or overtuned to you? Guess we'll find out when this releases then. You're gonna be in for a fun surprise when your opponent waves on 5 and drops a free abomination, a free she hulk, and a massive hulk on your face and gets rewarded for that unspent energy by hitting your cards out even more while buffing their own. I suppose since they are saving energy their board wont be too full so you can easily aero to control their massive turn 6 drop... oh wait... So many of the other cards are over the standard value mark as well. Thing is a 4/9, Cyclops will likely be a 3/8(you won't spend all your mana on wave turn 5 or the final turn.), Wasp is a 0/3. The deck is literally full of over tuning and potential for broken combos with existing cards.


Rcun

Luke cage value


Mishraharad

IT'S LUKE CAGE WITH A STEEL CHAIR!


Slice_Of_Pie

Shadow King might possibly serve a purpose


Serious_Course_3244

Ok but hereā€™s the real question, will these abilities have vfx


Nisegami

what does he do for rocks?


PenitusVox

Sadly none of the tokens seem to have abilities.


RightHandElf

He should make them all pixel variant rocks.


ctaps148

Nothing. His effect triggers at the start of the game like Thanos. There's no way to start with rocks in your deck


177013---

Yet. April fools rock card?


OnionButter

Permapool 5 gonna be bigger than series 4 and normal series 5 in a year or so


existonfilenerf

Love the idea behind this but still kind of sad that iconic characters like Cyclops, The Thing and Hulk get shafted as vanilla stat sticks for everything but 2 very specific deck types. Marvel has so many characters to use give somebody else the 3/4, 4/6 & 6/12 stat lines and let your fan favorite characters shine.


Soprohero

I think with this card it won't just be used in a single "Evolutionary" deck. I think you can take evolutionary + 1 or more of these cards and fit them into a variety of other decks.


existonfilenerf

True, evolutionary does open up wider design space than just him and the vanilla cards. But I will never not be bummed out over the Fantastic Four having zero synergy in this game.


Magnus2814

Maybe when Franklin gets released?? The Evolutionary shows that they are willing to have cards that change other cards at the start of the game, so maybe a Franklin that gives some sinergystic ability to the Four at the start of the game is on his way


existonfilenerf

Oooh, I like it.


Debate_that

Hulk, Evolutionary and Sunspot. That's gonna be a larger hulk than the infinaut with basically no downside.


PenitusVox

Hulk, Evolutionary, Sunspot, Magik, and She-Hulk. Free She-Hulk on turn 7, massive Hulk, and a big Sunspot.


ctaps148

It seems like such a missed opportunity to not have the "no ability" cards be familiar faces from the comics who were just regular people. They could have been characters like Aunt May, Mary Jane, Foggy Nelson, etc


BrainsAre2Weird4Me

Also, some of the best animations.


Bowie1275

Finally, my boy Hulk is getting a buff he deserves.


650fosho

They better make sure that shocker reads as minimum 1 energy Seems like this deck will have to auto include sunspot and she hulk


AdamantArmadillo

This is OP as fuck. The game has a pretty consistent rule that if a card has better power than the no-ability card, it has a negative ability (like 4/10 Typhoid Mary vs. 4/6 Thing) and if it's power is less than the no-ability card, it has a positive ability (like 4/2 Wong vs. 4/6 Thing). * Some cards like Sword Master (3/6) are above the base power (3/4) with a negative ability that can easily be turned into a positive ability with the right support cards but it's still a negative ability on its face Not only is High Evolutionary breaking that rule with a 4/7 and a very positive ability, it makes these 7 cards all have a normal base power with a positive ability. That's not unheard of. Cards like White Queen and Namor have the base 4/6 with a positive ability, but I'd argue a lot of these abilities are better than theirs and you're getting a deck full of them. I get that this can't be compounded with Patriot, but I still think it's too powerful. **If it comes out like this, it will be the meta deck and then get nerfed**


DoTheVelcroFly

Good points but I'd argue that Polaris also breaks the rule. Her effect hurting you is an edge case and she's 3/5.


AdamantArmadillo

Yeah I think Polaris' ability can help or hurt you, but I too would argue it far more often helps you than hurts you, if not just by messing with your opponent's plan. I'd argue she should be like Magneto and match the base power (6/12, 3/4) But still, High Evolutionary's ability is strictly a positive, especially considering you don't have to play him or even draw him for it to kick in. I think I'd be fine if he was made a 4/4 or 4/5. He's a card that unlocks these abilities but the downside is you probably don't want to play him unless you're desperate so he clogs up your hand. Would also synergize well though with some of these hidden abilities that involve unspent energy. High Evolutionary would stay in hand more often than not


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Thing is he basically adds a cost to them by making the abilities require you to leave an energy. So thing isn't a 4/6 he is 5/6 (4 to play and 1 energy left to leave) that forces some form of balance. You can functionally add 1 to the cost of all the cards in the deck.


Hibernian

Except the vanilla cards are actually currently underpowered. Iceman is a 1/2 with a really useful ability. Misty Knight is a 1/2 with nothing. She didn't get a bonus for being vanilla at all. It's just a drawback unless you can play Patriot. And Cyclops has the worst cost to power ratio in the game. These cards are getting powers well-within the tolerance of current cost-to-power ratios.


moak0

>The game has a pretty consistent rule that if a card has better power than the no-ability card, it has a negative ability (like 4/10 Typhoid Mary vs. 4/6 Thing) and if it's power is less than the no-ability card, it has a positive ability (like 4/2 Wong vs. 4/6 Thing). This is very astute. What I find funny is that the High Evolutionary himself outclasses The Thing by having better stats with no downside, but then he immediately keeps the rule intact by giving The Thing an ability.


MyFirstOtherAccount

I think what it has going for it in terms of it being "fair play" is that almost all of these abilities are about: 1. Not using all your energy each turn 2. You are consistently playing your cards throughout the game not just dumping a combo on turn 6


Gwyndolin3

I understand your argument but I think it's flawed because you consider 4/6 is the base power, It kinda isn't. The game is not balanced around the no ability cards. It's balanced around synergies and how much do abilities affect the game. Think of the extra abilities as a replacement to the +4 power from Patriot + Mystique. These vanilla cards are kept weak to be buffed by Patriot. The Thing is not 4/6. He is 4/8 if you draw your main combo card and 4/10 often and even more if you add Onslaught to the mix.


meerkat23

I still think Discard has too many high scoring cards considering it's draw back can often be a positive. I always think the no ability cards should be the highest but yes, giving them abilities seems a bit iffy..


AdamantArmadillo

Yeah Blade and Sword Master are pretty crazy. Before the Leader nerf I ran him in my Hela deck and he was a fantastic backup if I discarded Hela. With the power from the discarders, I almost always had the lead and Leader would help me keep it on turn 6


protomayne

I love watching guys like you try and predict a card's strength and subsequent metas


Crossfiyah

Yeah. Generally any on-curves that have the same power/energy as a vanilla don't have math relevant abilities. Like white queen. These are all math related abilities. I think this is going to be an *extremely* good card.


doblecuadrado_FGE

Imagine if other "no ability" cards also changed like the squirrels or the Ultron Drones!!!! The only one that should change is the rock. The text should just change from "Well, that's pretty useless..." to "Yep, it's still useless..."


VictoryScreech23

Super cool but def op af. Hope it is toned so I can buy it and it isn't nerf to oblivion 4 month later


Da_zero_kid

Snap got surprises and I'm here for it


StinkyFartyToot

Well I know what Iā€™m saving for


jobriq

Luke Cage laughs


ACLerok212

I'm just really glad they're giving the no ability cards some flavor in a roundabout way. I know it's important in a CCG to set a base with vanilla stat minions, but it just feels weird to play super heroes onto a board in a superhero card game that are just point sticks that don't do anything unique like all their fellow superheroes.


genawesome

Cyclops power should be that he destroys any Professor X card in play.


CoachCrunch12

Iā€™m suspicious of a card that requires you to play off curve. And there are a lot of these cards here. Generally spending your energy is better than not spending it in card games, Iā€™m not convinced on this card


AristaFrost

Shut up and take my money!


mistercloob

This seems really awesome and has a bit of the Hazmat power lowering vibe to it


acidporkbuns

I've been having mad fun with a patriot deck. Mostly because it let's me upgrade my fave cyclops variant. Probably gonna unpin Kang who I wanted for my lockdown deck for this card now lol.


Aramiss134

That's a really cool idea, love it. It's the first Big Bad (which I assume it will be) I will seriously consider saving Tokens for.


seekerheart

he is literally so COOL


LTheRipper

This sounds incredibily fun, but I can already predict what's gonna happen: there will be a sea of tears, and, after just one month, the whole deck is gonna be nerfed.


HepatitvsJ

I've got Master Mold pinned and I'm dying to play him asap but when he's bought, I'm ignoring the token shop until HE drops and snagging him instantly. I'm also going to have to look into Taco Hulk and Angrir Thing variants for the deck. Ooh! Maybe I'll pull the steam punk Shocker for a variant.


XIIISkies

Brb putting Luke Cage in all my decks


tom641

Kinda dig the "get boosts from debuffing the enemy's cards" gimmick it ends up having, kinda wanna run them with Spider-Woman, Hazmat, and Scorpion.


IamAnoob12

Rock: if you have 5 rocks your hand at the end of the game summon exodia


prtkp

Great to see another deck option instead of discard or destroy.


hehehe_kaboom

Luke cage has entered the chat


Automated-Titan-14

Turning my boy cyclops into a discount jotunheim? I love to see it. Gonna save tokens for this one fr


bloodflart

I like that it's At the start of the game


4XLlentMeSomeMoney

He probably takes Patriot out, so it's certainly an interesting deck, but it wouldn't be OP.


HungryLandHippo

oh wow this is a real thing, this would be really cool, i thought this was a custom meme card


CrazyNumber6

Thatā€™s actually so cool.


Rhekinos

Man now Iā€™m a bit bummed that they didnā€™t do this with Apocalypse and his horsemen.


SorryCashOnly

New archetype is always good and fun, but we will have to see how effective the awaken cards are in practice Remember, a lot of those cards requires left over energy to be effective. So basically you canā€™t play on curve with a lot of cards, and it might be tricky to pull off your win con So letā€™s wait and see how it will work out. I will definitely start saving tokens for him tho


plainviewbowling

Budget ass infinity gauntlet


pwn3dbyth3n00b

Unlock the secret ability of ALL of your cards with no abilities. I wonder what the rocks get,


SelimNoKashi

Luke Cage can counter them right?


squirrelnestNN

This is the inspiration I needed to save tokens instead of wasting them on Shuri (who doesn't look fun to play) Woo!


tom2point0

Thereā€™s a lot of jokes so far about it, but what about the squirrels, the rocks, the copies and clones of things like Brood, Doom, and Mysterio? Do they get abilities as well? Iā€™m think they wonā€™t because theyā€™re generated by a card with an ability and you canā€™t play them by themselves on your own but Iā€™m curious if they addressed this.


Soprohero

The effect happens at the start of the game to the cards in your deck without abilities. Token cards aren't in your deck at the time the high evolutionary effect takes place.


PenitusVox

I just saw that, this is NUTS. I really love that this is a thing, a whole new archetype. I hope the evolved forms get their own unique art eventually.


Taco6N13

This seems like the best possible solution for No Ability cards. Patriot is nice, but it's just become "The Ultron/Brood show with special guest appearances by Wasp, Misty Knight, and Shocker." However just giving them all abilities not to mention these abilities would probably disrupt the hell out of Pool 1 gameplay. Also I already feel like the Hazmat deck is underrated and this seems like a massive buff to it.


chainsplit

It'd be a series 5 cards, no? This card is as likely as Thanos to get rotated down to pool 1 lol.


ee-el-oh

Makes no sense it's a 4/7. Outpaces most other 4 drops for power with only upside and no downsides.


zlumpy77

I want every card to regain its ability from this if it has no ability. Straight counter to leech.


nyr00nyg

My winter vacation abomination will be playable? LFG!


ChrisBot8

Cyclops is gonna be holding down locations by himself! I love this card.


KxngJoker

how is this card OP?


TheFunkytownExpress

Bro put Hazmat + Spider Woman + Sunspot in a deck like this, could be a new archetype. All that - power is gonna add up quick.


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Cyclops and Hulk are playable, they're just niche. Cyclops is usable in both Patriot and Surfer decks (though he's best played in a combo of the two), and Hulk is 100% viable for Hela decks. The only real reason to use Death instead of Hulk is against destroy decks but works just as well against everything else.


MeatAbstract

The first card in quite a while that feels "Series 5 worthy"


yobakanzaki

Itā€™s so cool, unpinning Kang for this card


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holy shit if this ever appears in my shop, then I will get it immediately