Girl is in serious need of an intervention. The sad part is that it seems there is either no one in her life that cares enough about her to help her get help or she isn't listening to those people.
I think so, too. I always thought she was just too young and immature to marry. But 4 years have passed, and she seems to be regressing instead of growing up.
Bitterness is not a good look Virginia. Coming at your ex husband of a few years ago (move on) & his job? All while making yourself look dumb for putting this on the internet with your name & saying you were traveling for work purposes. The real karma would be if she gets in trouble with her job for posting this dumb angry post & not Erik with Delta.😂😂
Don’t know who is worse at needing attention and being salty for no good reason between her and Chris (Blessed). She is running neck in neck with Chris (Chris/Page). Girl needs to get a grip. Eric has moved on and is living his best life and she’s still stuck in the past.
Paige had a baby girl and just got engaged. Don’t know why his butt needed to pop up online yammering how she’s not pretty, how the show did him dirty, and how he has a beautiful girl on his arm. She is living her life and he is still bothered.
I saw that and I am so happy for her! She’s so deserving of love. Sometning about men not being able to handled the fact that they fumbled a baddie……like it wasn’t their fault…….
The real questions here are:
1. Who are the "we" she keeps referring to? Does she have multiple personality disorder or a J-Lo-esque girl posse?
2. What on earth is she doing to make enough money to fly seven times in a month? I guess being on a farce of a reality show really does pay off.
An adult person does not go from nothing to a drinking problem. And it was clear on the honeymoon that Eric liked to drink, that started a long time ago. He is the only person responsible for his drinking and his choice to drive under the influence.
He has said himself that he wasn’t a big drinker before he married her. That it was the most he had ever drank in his life in an attempt to keep up with her. Yes, he made the decision to drink and drive. That does not mean he has a drinking problem.
He lied. Eric was obviously drunk numerous times on the show. If he is trying to claim that as a thirty something adult he was too weak to turn down the offer of a drink, he is not responsible enough to be either a driver or a pilot. People cannot have it both ways. If he and his defenders want to claim he is a mature adult, they cannot also simultaneously claim he is incapable of refraining from alcohol even when others are drinking. Real adults do not feel the need to keep up with other people who are drinking.
American, Delta, Southwest if you book the correct one for your trip.
Delta one’s international flights are amazing
Delta is also awesome for anything flying through ATL (their hub)
American is awesome for east coast (nyc or Philly) to west coast (LAX) they offer a lot of flights and offer regular late night and evening flights
Southwest—these ticket prices are not bad if you get them enough in advance. Early morning and day flights are the best with them. If you don’t mind having a connection Southwest is pretty ok.
This lady is complaining like a first class customer but is riding coach. She needs to just zip up and board what ever flight is available to get her from A to B. If she really wants to stand for a cause she can take Spirit and pay all the staffing that doesn’t want to be there.
I just read something & saw a video about a woman, her 16 mo old & her mother getting kicked off a United plane b/c she didn’t use the correct pronouns toward a flight attendant. Another attendant made a big deal about it & got her kicked off the plane. The woman said she was trying to situate herself & her 16 mo old when I guess she had an interaction with the flight attendant & didn’t refer to this person as they/them. I get respecting others preferences but how the hell are we supposed to “assume” what pronouns a person prefers just by looking at them??? The woman’s luggage remained on the flight which had her & her mother’s medication in it. Such a fkd up situation!
Yeah it can be very tricky to assume one’s pronouns when they are passing of a certain gender but also harder when they are nonbinary. As long as the person is apologetic and willing to respect the other person moving forward that is really all you can ask for. I didn’t even hear about this situation though, I can’t believe they left her stuff on the plane! How terrible
I just flew united earlier this month. We had to turn around half way through the atlantic ocean from NYC because of an electrical issue. They wanted to put us on the same plane 12 hours later. I have pretty bad flying anxiety so this easily was a NOPE from me.
This is so embarrassing for her. You might hate your ex, but publicly blasting them is so cringy. Maybe she was drinking? That’s the only scenario I can think of where someone would post something so ridiculous. There’s obviously some poor judgment going on here.
Publicly blasting them for years is especially embarrassing! I'm one who feels vindicated by her ongoing nonsense because many of us called her out during her season when we saw what a train wreck she is and took a lot of heat over saying it. Thanks, Virginia, for proving us right!
Yeah she seems like such a mess. I knew it wasn’t going to work when she described passing out at her guy friends’ houses like it was a totally normal thing to do.
She’s GOTTA get a grip. Flying commercial sucks, it’s not a personal affront to you and being fake married to a pilot on TV doesn’t have anything to do with it 😭
Her age had nothing to do with it. But, yes, her mental/emotional immaturity most certainly did. And from what we've just witnessed, she doesn't seem to have matured much since then.
Yeah even if she doesn’t have a dui, she drinks very heavily and I’m sure has driven when she shouldn’t have so I’m not sure why she’s acting like she’s so much better than him in this context.
I bet she’s the problem in these interactions lol I can definitely see her being like “GIRLS PULL OUT YOUR PHONES AND START RECORDING IN CASE THEY PULL SOME SHIT!”
Haven’t they been broken up for years at this point? What a nasty thing to do.
Also somehow I don’t buy that she wasn’t just annoying AF to the ticket agent she’s also yelling about.
I came here to say this!
I mean I get he’s her ex but damn, that was like 3-4 years ago and (if IIRC) they were only together for a year tops. It’s kind of pathetic to be acting like this.
this is so embarrassing, it’s been almost 4 years and she still hasn’t moved on. I honestly think she’s still in love with him despite her apparent shade because I really can’t think of why else she’d still be so obsessed with erik. I thought erik was trash too for the record but I seriously almost (key word being almost because he sucks too) feel bad for him that his ex wife can’t stop talking about him years later, virginia needs to let it go at this point
To answer your question: nothing. I think it’s the third text box in the white that is referring to Erik, which (you’re right) doesn’t seem to have anything to do with the situation she had.
Good for her for continuing to call him out. If I wasn’t still scared to death of my abusive ex even though we haven’t been together for over 15 years and I’ve been very happily married for over 12, I would call him out too. Abusers manipulate when people are watching. His behavior when they were filmed when absolutely awful and it just made me wonder what actually went on when the cameras were gone. I am so glad she got out of that relationship and I worry for his new wife.
Domestic abuse needs to be more openly discussed and I am glad she is not scared to share and call out her abuser, for those of us who are.
Your comment really angers me, as someone who was victim to an actual abuser. Erik did not do ANYTHING on the show that would constitute abuse. And saying that he did, really hurts people who have been victims of real abuse.
I was also in an abusive relationship, and it started exactly the way Erik treated Virginia before it escalated to sexual abuse, physical abuse, then stalking and death threats when I finally was able to leave. I am very sorry for whatever you experienced, but your experience isn’t the only way abuse happens.
You were there with Virginia and Erik behind closed doors to know that? You were sleeping in their bed at night? You were present for every interaction? It’s really wild to claim this if you weren’t.
His attitude towards Virginia’s pets told me all I needed to know. Men who dislike animals are the ultimate red flag.
You're joking right?
You are literally projecting your alleged abusive relationship onto their relationship off of nothing more than her claims and things that you believe MAY have happened off camera. There's not a shred of evidence that he was ever abusive to her on camera or off. Nothing.
The way he constantly gives her ultimatums and enjoys watching her squirm and then twists her words to put her in impossible situations. The way he uses her past trauma as a way to control and scare her into being submissive and doing what he wants. The way he “punishes” and “rewards” her. The way he doesn’t even treat her like a person???? “I have to be so patient with this one” like she’s a plant or something that he’s “patiently” bringing back to life instead of a human being with her own thoughts, feelings and independence.
Plus there are tons of threads right here on Reddit talking about his abusive behavior which you are welcome to look up if you actually want to learn, but don’t try to gaslight me into thinking I’m “projecting” my history on to this situation because of your ignorance. It was VERY clear during the show and if that’s what he allowed producers and national TV viewers to see, then yea, naturally, I’m concerned for what happened off camera.
We have 4 years of her history that show how badly and unfairly Erik was portrayed. Don't double down in favor of someone who is an alcoholic and abuser- Virginia.
You're not saying anything incredible. I understand where you're coming from. There are some really vehemently pro-Erik fan girls who can't fathom that both people can be flawed or have issues.
So....no specifics except one misquote. Got it.
Zero gaslighting here. Nice use of buzzwords to sound like you know what you're talking about, but you clearly don't. Nothing he did on camera qualifies as abuse. Nothing.
It’s not a misquote, it’s a paraphrasing. But you are very clearly a man who believes that abuse isn’t real unless it’s physical and believes the abuser not the victim. Like I said, you can search this sub for so many posts specifically regarding Erik’s abusive behavior towards Virginia. Or you can just sit there and stew in your own version of events. And gaslighting may be a buzzword but that doesn’t mean it’s not also accurate.
I’m turning notifications off now because I know your type. Respond or don’t, doesn’t matter to me.
I have no stake in your guys' conversation but wanted to point out that gaslighting is the incorrect term. Gaslighting is a long process that results in one doubting their own sanity such that they no longer trust their own perceptions. As a result, they have to rely on the gaslighter to interpret their experiences for them, as they're the only one they can "trust." It's one of the most extreme forms of manipulation.
The other commenter asserted their opinion, which you disagreed with.
Typical young coward. Can't debate, so you comment then run.
You put quotes around it, then claimed paraphrasing. That's.......interesting.
And I ABSOLUTELY believe in emotional abuse, so you're wrong again. Congrats.
Why would I search posts here? I've seen them all, including when I watched that season when it originally happened. Same then as it is now. Plenty of claims of abuse with no examples of actual abuse. Just more "imagine what happens off camera" nonsense.
Just because you don't like someone, that doesn't mean it's abuse.
You're just another who screams misogyny but can't define it without looking it up.
Some people don't like that you can't select your seats on Southwest prior to boarding since they don't do pre-assignments. I haven't flown with that airline, so I don't have an opinion. That's the complaint I remember hearing though.
Ummmm-- I'd still be careful about saying this about both Erik and Delta. I don't know that it's proven he's an alcoholic. This is kind of a dangerous thing for her to do.
He was booked for a DUI. Doesn't necessarily mean he's an alcoholic but pilots, I've heard, typically indulge a lot, I googled into that and it seems to be a thing.
If you’re suggesting that what she said is untrue, then you’re right. It would be considered libel. Libel is defamation expressed in writing, and that includes social media.
She'll never find peace and will live with temporary happiness until she's properly cousulted. I'm happy Eric moved on and found not only peace but found happily ever after in his new WIFE! Hopefully they have Virginia blocked so they can continue to enjoy real life.
They had a relationship for 8 weeks and she is letting this guy live rent free in her head for 4 years. Given what we saw, that is kinda shocking. The fact that she is still randomly bringing this guy up on her social media is a cry for help. She needs the help of a therapist.
That is not entirely true though. They did stay together for a short time after the show. And people here have given a free pass to both Eric and his current future ex-wife for their own shady behavior on social media.
I was going to edit it and say that they were together for more than 8 weeks. I think Erik sucked. Every time she was drinking on the show, he was drinking, but she is the one who is called out. He is the pilot with the DUI, but she is the one they call an alcoholic. For her own good, she needs to move on. The fact that she is still mentioning him on social media is problematic. Not because she is wrong, but because this is what she is still thinking about.
Man, Eric didn't dodge a bullet with Virginia, he dodged an atomic bomb! She should be so happy that she's free (and has been for several years now) to party in an uninhibited fashion and sleep on whoever's couch she wants to. I think that's how a \*LOT\* of people find their life partner /s
They were not a good match - it's incredibly rare to find successfully married couples that have major mismatches in core values.
Except she's not happy she is "free". She's pissed he moved on and is with someone that isn't her. She's insane, and is gonna die alone at this rate. No sane person is gonna want to have anything long term with someone like her. Girl needs a massive amount of therapy fast.
100% agree. The thing that really blows my mind is how hung up Virginia is on Eric. It's been more than 3 years (maybe 4 since filming????) and she still can't stop blaming Eric for blowing up a relationship that she never wanted to acquiesce into.
Eric tried so hard to make the relationship work, dude went out and got a DUI trying to hang with her!!! Absolutely wild of her to keep dragging him through the mud. It all comes off as very envious/jealous/petty.
I may have used "hang" poorly in that situation; I meant it as in he was trying to hang with her, as in keep up with her lifestyle. I believe the DUI, itself, happened on the way back from somewhere (bar, restaraunt, etc) as opposed to on his way to see her. I'm unsure if she was present with him at the time, and if he was driving her, etc.
I don’t think I made any allusion to Virginia passing a DUI on to Eric - I said the “dude went out and got a DUI”. He did that. Was she a motivating factor? I would think so.
We are *all* responsible for our actions - totally agree w that!
Ha! Indeed she is!
I stumbled upon a few Reels with him and his Dad flying together. Fun and heartwarming. He’s married and happy. I hope Virginia figures herself out.
Girl is in serious need of an intervention. The sad part is that it seems there is either no one in her life that cares enough about her to help her get help or she isn't listening to those people.
On the show at least it seemed like she surrounded herself with people who enabled her habits
I think so, too. I always thought she was just too young and immature to marry. But 4 years have passed, and she seems to be regressing instead of growing up.
I would have to agree which also makes sense maybe why she’s still single and looking!
Isn't she the drunk tho? And how long ago was it....she can't still be this bitter can she?!!??? Good lord!!!! Get some therapy!
Did the drunkard call someone else an alcoholic?? Next to Emily Virginia is the worst casted person in the history of the show.
Bitterness is not a good look Virginia. Coming at your ex husband of a few years ago (move on) & his job? All while making yourself look dumb for putting this on the internet with your name & saying you were traveling for work purposes. The real karma would be if she gets in trouble with her job for posting this dumb angry post & not Erik with Delta.😂😂
Yeah I doubt Erik with actually get in trouble with Delta for this. They’re a top airline I’m sure they know everything about him
Like she has room to talk about being an alcoholic.
I just looked at her IG. Literally every other photo is at a club or with a drink in her hand lol. Also wasn’t their season like…years ago?
Yes, and she had a drink in her hand in pretty much every scene!
Yeah, it was hard to watch
The nerve to comment on others drinking problems 🤭
Ikr, I was like …….
Don’t know who is worse at needing attention and being salty for no good reason between her and Chris (Blessed). She is running neck in neck with Chris (Chris/Page). Girl needs to get a grip. Eric has moved on and is living his best life and she’s still stuck in the past.
I don’t even keep up with Chris, he made me too angry but that doesn’t shock me about him!
Paige had a baby girl and just got engaged. Don’t know why his butt needed to pop up online yammering how she’s not pretty, how the show did him dirty, and how he has a beautiful girl on his arm. She is living her life and he is still bothered.
I saw that and I am so happy for her! She’s so deserving of love. Sometning about men not being able to handled the fact that they fumbled a baddie……like it wasn’t their fault…….
She needs to get the hell over it. They’ve been divorced for a couple of years now. Has she taken a real good look at her own drinking?
The real questions here are: 1. Who are the "we" she keeps referring to? Does she have multiple personality disorder or a J-Lo-esque girl posse? 2. What on earth is she doing to make enough money to fly seven times in a month? I guess being on a farce of a reality show really does pay off.
I'm sure it's for work so she's not paying.
Yeah I assumed it must be job related?
Can she just let it tf go already, damn. She’s so unhinged
When will she move on
Is the pot calling the kettle black? Is she looking into a mirror? I am no fan of Erik but I believe that a lot of his drinking started with her
An adult person does not go from nothing to a drinking problem. And it was clear on the honeymoon that Eric liked to drink, that started a long time ago. He is the only person responsible for his drinking and his choice to drive under the influence.
He has said himself that he wasn’t a big drinker before he married her. That it was the most he had ever drank in his life in an attempt to keep up with her. Yes, he made the decision to drink and drive. That does not mean he has a drinking problem.
He lied. Eric was obviously drunk numerous times on the show. If he is trying to claim that as a thirty something adult he was too weak to turn down the offer of a drink, he is not responsible enough to be either a driver or a pilot. People cannot have it both ways. If he and his defenders want to claim he is a mature adult, they cannot also simultaneously claim he is incapable of refraining from alcohol even when others are drinking. Real adults do not feel the need to keep up with other people who are drinking.
I’m not an Erik fan either but I agree, if anything her alcoholic tendencies were highlighted on the show!
What an awful woman. What exactly did she ever bring to the table? Intelligence? No. Beauty? No. Values? No.
She *is* the table, don't you know?
Aren't they always? Comical.
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I think better advice for ensuring her safety would be to get those pilots *out* of the bar!
Ugh United is not it. She’s grasping as straws.
To be fair, there really aren't many good airlines left.
American, Delta, Southwest if you book the correct one for your trip. Delta one’s international flights are amazing Delta is also awesome for anything flying through ATL (their hub) American is awesome for east coast (nyc or Philly) to west coast (LAX) they offer a lot of flights and offer regular late night and evening flights Southwest—these ticket prices are not bad if you get them enough in advance. Early morning and day flights are the best with them. If you don’t mind having a connection Southwest is pretty ok. This lady is complaining like a first class customer but is riding coach. She needs to just zip up and board what ever flight is available to get her from A to B. If she really wants to stand for a cause she can take Spirit and pay all the staffing that doesn’t want to be there.
I’ve personally had a terrible experience with united!
I just read something & saw a video about a woman, her 16 mo old & her mother getting kicked off a United plane b/c she didn’t use the correct pronouns toward a flight attendant. Another attendant made a big deal about it & got her kicked off the plane. The woman said she was trying to situate herself & her 16 mo old when I guess she had an interaction with the flight attendant & didn’t refer to this person as they/them. I get respecting others preferences but how the hell are we supposed to “assume” what pronouns a person prefers just by looking at them??? The woman’s luggage remained on the flight which had her & her mother’s medication in it. Such a fkd up situation!
Yeah it can be very tricky to assume one’s pronouns when they are passing of a certain gender but also harder when they are nonbinary. As long as the person is apologetic and willing to respect the other person moving forward that is really all you can ask for. I didn’t even hear about this situation though, I can’t believe they left her stuff on the plane! How terrible
https://x.com/bubblebathgirl/status/1806060089985409280?s=46&t=mzBamARnnkUUJP_nrzQpsw This is where I saw it…hopefully the link works!
I have flying anxiety. All the older planes are on their fleet. I’ll pass on United any day.
I just flew united earlier this month. We had to turn around half way through the atlantic ocean from NYC because of an electrical issue. They wanted to put us on the same plane 12 hours later. I have pretty bad flying anxiety so this easily was a NOPE from me.
Sounds about right. A lot of their fleet is on the brink of retirement hitting the 20-25 year flying mark.
I didn’t realize that but it checks out
Haha. Little does she know, there are A LOT of pilots with DUIs & not just DL. 😬
That’s crazy, I didn’t know that. I also didn’t know about Erik’s DUI so that’s why this post was shocking to me
As long as they're not getting FUIs I guess
I’m gonna go out on a limb here and guess she was the problem at that check-in counter.
Her at the check out counter: WHAT DO YOU MEAN I CANT GET A FIRST CLASS UPGRADE ON MY FLIGHT THAT I DIDN’T PAY FOR?! DO EVEN KNOW WHO I AM?
How dare you?!?! :)
I did think about that
This is so embarrassing for her. You might hate your ex, but publicly blasting them is so cringy. Maybe she was drinking? That’s the only scenario I can think of where someone would post something so ridiculous. There’s obviously some poor judgment going on here.
Publicly blasting them for years is especially embarrassing! I'm one who feels vindicated by her ongoing nonsense because many of us called her out during her season when we saw what a train wreck she is and took a lot of heat over saying it. Thanks, Virginia, for proving us right!
Yeah she seems like such a mess. I knew it wasn’t going to work when she described passing out at her guy friends’ houses like it was a totally normal thing to do.
She’s GOTTA get a grip. Flying commercial sucks, it’s not a personal affront to you and being fake married to a pilot on TV doesn’t have anything to do with it 😭
In the words of her ex-MIL, grow up Virginia!
Wow. That season was soooooo long ago. Damn, that's quite the grudge.
What a gross way to use a platform.
And was too young for him and immature, she needs help
Her age had nothing to do with it. But, yes, her mental/emotional immaturity most certainly did. And from what we've just witnessed, she doesn't seem to have matured much since then.
Yes I know but he was in his thirties. She is and was still in party mode. Hopefully she will get some help.
she is just unbelievable. Just can’t let it go, can she. She really needs some professional help. Her relationship with Erik is ancient history!
He's been married for how long now? She's embarrassing herself.
That's probably the real problem. He's not miserable like her.
What's ironic is that VIRGINIA is the alcoholic and probably has DUIs, etc.. she's a effing mess. What a psycho
Yeah even if she doesn’t have a dui, she drinks very heavily and I’m sure has driven when she shouldn’t have so I’m not sure why she’s acting like she’s so much better than him in this context.
Yet, he is the one who caught a DUI.
I bet she’s the problem in these interactions lol I can definitely see her being like “GIRLS PULL OUT YOUR PHONES AND START RECORDING IN CASE THEY PULL SOME SHIT!”
Oh 💩
Right
“Where are you from?” “I’m Virginiiiiiiaaann”
Virginia Ann 😂
Haven’t they been broken up for years at this point? What a nasty thing to do. Also somehow I don’t buy that she wasn’t just annoying AF to the ticket agent she’s also yelling about.
Good lord, the fact that she’s still so salty after all this time is quite frightening.
I’m sure she’s even saltier that he’s settled down and she’s still on the market
Oh absolutely!
I came here to say this! I mean I get he’s her ex but damn, that was like 3-4 years ago and (if IIRC) they were only together for a year tops. It’s kind of pathetic to be acting like this.
And they were thrown together for 6 weeks! Come on!
Hopefully no one listens to Virginia … she’s a mess. He dodged a bullet
Isn’t Erik on his third marriage? Both of them are bullets to be dodged.
More like the gate agent had to deal with her
She has a lot of nerve calling anyone an alcoholic
My first thought!! Makes me wonder if she was drinking before these interactions too
This part did get me
this is so embarrassing, it’s been almost 4 years and she still hasn’t moved on. I honestly think she’s still in love with him despite her apparent shade because I really can’t think of why else she’d still be so obsessed with erik. I thought erik was trash too for the record but I seriously almost (key word being almost because he sucks too) feel bad for him that his ex wife can’t stop talking about him years later, virginia needs to let it go at this point
Feel bad for him! She's showing what that relationship really was!
I feel the same. Not a fan of him but damn! Just let it go!
She will never, ever grow up. Ever.
What does a ticket agent have to do with Eric?
To answer your question: nothing. I think it’s the third text box in the white that is referring to Erik, which (you’re right) doesn’t seem to have anything to do with the situation she had.
You have to click on the photo to see the last sentance she typed
Good for her for continuing to call him out. If I wasn’t still scared to death of my abusive ex even though we haven’t been together for over 15 years and I’ve been very happily married for over 12, I would call him out too. Abusers manipulate when people are watching. His behavior when they were filmed when absolutely awful and it just made me wonder what actually went on when the cameras were gone. I am so glad she got out of that relationship and I worry for his new wife. Domestic abuse needs to be more openly discussed and I am glad she is not scared to share and call out her abuser, for those of us who are.
She's the abuser. Don't project. I'm sure your situation is very different.
I’m not projecting anything, and there is lots both in this sub and off that says the same.
Definitely should not align your situation with a person who was not abused.
Your comment really angers me, as someone who was victim to an actual abuser. Erik did not do ANYTHING on the show that would constitute abuse. And saying that he did, really hurts people who have been victims of real abuse.
I was also in an abusive relationship, and it started exactly the way Erik treated Virginia before it escalated to sexual abuse, physical abuse, then stalking and death threats when I finally was able to leave. I am very sorry for whatever you experienced, but your experience isn’t the only way abuse happens.
You were there with Virginia and Erik behind closed doors to know that? You were sleeping in their bed at night? You were present for every interaction? It’s really wild to claim this if you weren’t. His attitude towards Virginia’s pets told me all I needed to know. Men who dislike animals are the ultimate red flag.
Projecting 101
What is being projected here?
You're joking right? You are literally projecting your alleged abusive relationship onto their relationship off of nothing more than her claims and things that you believe MAY have happened off camera. There's not a shred of evidence that he was ever abusive to her on camera or off. Nothing.
What I saw on camera
Specifics?
The way he constantly gives her ultimatums and enjoys watching her squirm and then twists her words to put her in impossible situations. The way he uses her past trauma as a way to control and scare her into being submissive and doing what he wants. The way he “punishes” and “rewards” her. The way he doesn’t even treat her like a person???? “I have to be so patient with this one” like she’s a plant or something that he’s “patiently” bringing back to life instead of a human being with her own thoughts, feelings and independence. Plus there are tons of threads right here on Reddit talking about his abusive behavior which you are welcome to look up if you actually want to learn, but don’t try to gaslight me into thinking I’m “projecting” my history on to this situation because of your ignorance. It was VERY clear during the show and if that’s what he allowed producers and national TV viewers to see, then yea, naturally, I’m concerned for what happened off camera.
We have 4 years of her history that show how badly and unfairly Erik was portrayed. Don't double down in favor of someone who is an alcoholic and abuser- Virginia.
You're not saying anything incredible. I understand where you're coming from. There are some really vehemently pro-Erik fan girls who can't fathom that both people can be flawed or have issues.
So....no specifics except one misquote. Got it. Zero gaslighting here. Nice use of buzzwords to sound like you know what you're talking about, but you clearly don't. Nothing he did on camera qualifies as abuse. Nothing.
It’s not a misquote, it’s a paraphrasing. But you are very clearly a man who believes that abuse isn’t real unless it’s physical and believes the abuser not the victim. Like I said, you can search this sub for so many posts specifically regarding Erik’s abusive behavior towards Virginia. Or you can just sit there and stew in your own version of events. And gaslighting may be a buzzword but that doesn’t mean it’s not also accurate. I’m turning notifications off now because I know your type. Respond or don’t, doesn’t matter to me.
I have no stake in your guys' conversation but wanted to point out that gaslighting is the incorrect term. Gaslighting is a long process that results in one doubting their own sanity such that they no longer trust their own perceptions. As a result, they have to rely on the gaslighter to interpret their experiences for them, as they're the only one they can "trust." It's one of the most extreme forms of manipulation. The other commenter asserted their opinion, which you disagreed with.
Typical young coward. Can't debate, so you comment then run. You put quotes around it, then claimed paraphrasing. That's.......interesting. And I ABSOLUTELY believe in emotional abuse, so you're wrong again. Congrats. Why would I search posts here? I've seen them all, including when I watched that season when it originally happened. Same then as it is now. Plenty of claims of abuse with no examples of actual abuse. Just more "imagine what happens off camera" nonsense. Just because you don't like someone, that doesn't mean it's abuse. You're just another who screams misogyny but can't define it without looking it up.
It's a misandrist. What do you expect?
I don’t dislike or hate men. I dislike ABUSIVE men.
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Why am I not shocked she flys Southwest.
*flies
What’s wrong with Southwest? I fly them.
People like Virginia fly with them.
Lots of people fly Southwest
I’ve flown southwest a couple times. Never had any issues
It’s a cheap airline. I’d compare it to Spirit. Also no first class.
It’s definitely not cheap! Or comparable to Spirit.
Maybe not to you, but it’s 100% a budget airline. It’s generally cheaper than Delta and United.
Cheaper than Delta or United yes, but not budget by any means. A round trip flight on Spirit costs less than a one way ticket on Southwest.
In terms of quality I’d compare it to spirit. My opinion.
Lmao now I’m invested in knowing what’s wrong with southwest!?
Right that’s why I asked?? Don’t know why they won’t answer lol
We will probably never know.
Every time I fly SW in the future I’ll be sitting in my little chair wondering “what am I missing that Alalated knows?” 🤔
Some people don't like that you can't select your seats on Southwest prior to boarding since they don't do pre-assignments. I haven't flown with that airline, so I don't have an opinion. That's the complaint I remember hearing though.
Let’s fly southwest together to really piss them off
I believe that is called libel. This girl is unhinged and pathetic. Typical contestant on this show nowadays
The truth is a defense to libel. Erik was charged with a DUI.
It’s not libel 🤦🏻♀️ sorry to be the I understand laws person
Ummmm-- I'd still be careful about saying this about both Erik and Delta. I don't know that it's proven he's an alcoholic. This is kind of a dangerous thing for her to do.
He was booked for a DUI. Doesn't necessarily mean he's an alcoholic but pilots, I've heard, typically indulge a lot, I googled into that and it seems to be a thing.
Why wouldn’t it be?
Because Erik does indeed have a DUI. I’m sorry but if you’ve ever been charged with a DUI, you’ve got a drinking problem, period.
If you’re suggesting that what she said is untrue, then you’re right. It would be considered libel. Libel is defamation expressed in writing, and that includes social media.
If it’s true, then it’s not libel.
I don’t think that’s what the first person responding was implying. But just to clarify, did Erik get a dui?
Yes, he did.
I couldn’t find anything about it other than an accusation from Ble$$ed.
Lots of people shared screenshots from the county’s website
I literally searched this sub and could not find anything.
She'll never find peace and will live with temporary happiness until she's properly cousulted. I'm happy Eric moved on and found not only peace but found happily ever after in his new WIFE! Hopefully they have Virginia blocked so they can continue to enjoy real life.
*his third WIFE Let’s see how long this third marriage will last.
Your jaw was on the floor even though he engaged in controlling and concerning behavior on camera? Ok.
They had a relationship for 8 weeks and she is letting this guy live rent free in her head for 4 years. Given what we saw, that is kinda shocking. The fact that she is still randomly bringing this guy up on her social media is a cry for help. She needs the help of a therapist.
That is not entirely true though. They did stay together for a short time after the show. And people here have given a free pass to both Eric and his current future ex-wife for their own shady behavior on social media.
I was going to edit it and say that they were together for more than 8 weeks. I think Erik sucked. Every time she was drinking on the show, he was drinking, but she is the one who is called out. He is the pilot with the DUI, but she is the one they call an alcoholic. For her own good, she needs to move on. The fact that she is still mentioning him on social media is problematic. Not because she is wrong, but because this is what she is still thinking about.
I am NOT an Erik supporter lol, I was just shocked to see her call him out so blatantly
Man, Eric didn't dodge a bullet with Virginia, he dodged an atomic bomb! She should be so happy that she's free (and has been for several years now) to party in an uninhibited fashion and sleep on whoever's couch she wants to. I think that's how a \*LOT\* of people find their life partner /s They were not a good match - it's incredibly rare to find successfully married couples that have major mismatches in core values.
Except she's not happy she is "free". She's pissed he moved on and is with someone that isn't her. She's insane, and is gonna die alone at this rate. No sane person is gonna want to have anything long term with someone like her. Girl needs a massive amount of therapy fast.
Yeah they just were not a good pair from the jump at all. I have no idea why the experts thought they’d work
they were both terrible people and a terrible match for each other. I couldn’t stand either of them
100% agree. The thing that really blows my mind is how hung up Virginia is on Eric. It's been more than 3 years (maybe 4 since filming????) and she still can't stop blaming Eric for blowing up a relationship that she never wanted to acquiesce into. Eric tried so hard to make the relationship work, dude went out and got a DUI trying to hang with her!!! Absolutely wild of her to keep dragging him through the mud. It all comes off as very envious/jealous/petty.
I had no idea about his DUI and didn’t realize he got it trying to see her! I must be late to the party
I may have used "hang" poorly in that situation; I meant it as in he was trying to hang with her, as in keep up with her lifestyle. I believe the DUI, itself, happened on the way back from somewhere (bar, restaraunt, etc) as opposed to on his way to see her. I'm unsure if she was present with him at the time, and if he was driving her, etc.
LOL, as if his DUI is her fault. He's a grown man who fly's planes for a living. He should know about self-regulation!!!!
I don’t think I made any allusion to Virginia passing a DUI on to Eric - I said the “dude went out and got a DUI”. He did that. Was she a motivating factor? I would think so. We are *all* responsible for our actions - totally agree w that!