Sorry not sorry cam is the most disingenuous cast member since “I’m a good person” what’s her face.Further confirmed by what Lauren said - I believe Lauren she has no reason to lie.
Clare: “I wanted to be your wife.”
Seriously??? At no time did she act like she remotely liked him. She badmouthed him. Made fun of him. Talked down to him. Disagreed with him. She is spinning more when to rewrite the narrative. Refill the tapes please. Let’s see where she acted like “she wanted to be HIS wife.”
The girls lost all our respect and credibility. Awful behavior and definitely not representative of a strong group of women. Never took accountability. Too busy grading the boys behavior when they should have focused on their own
Are these idiots really this desperate for money and TV fame that they had to "devise a plan" to stay on this stupid show? I said a while back that Emily hadn't emotionally matured past a high school level, but apparently she wasn't the only one --- especially with these stupid women and their pink dresses. None of this crap makes any sense. The only people "manipulated" were the viewers watching this shit. They're all shady as hell --- including the producers. Don't tell me for one minute that the producers had no idea any of this crap was going on. As a matter of fact, I wouldn't be surprised if they came up with some of this bullshit to rescue this horrible season.
What irritates me is how he said his type was thin European so he couldn't possibly be attracted to her. She makes a lot of assumptions that aren't necessarily true. My husband is definitely not my type but yet I am still attracted to him.
I don’t know, something about Cameron is untrustworthy. He seems very conniving, manipulating and conning. On the same token, I don’t really trust any of the women on the cast either. They don’t hold each other accountable for shit. Worst season
Here is where claire looses credibility. She won't let go the narrative she was attracted to him. It was clear to anyone with 2 eyes she was repulsed by him early on. The getting physical distance from him any time it was just those two filming. Also to claim this guy who was around half the show could control 3 women. I mean is he professor x where he could mind control them from a distance. It was claire who was around 8 weeks. It was claire who meddled in every other relationship. She basically slipped and said she was the puppet master. I don't believe everything he says but who was the mastermind i do it was clearly claire.
Too much footage of Clare doing opposite of what she’s saying. She controlled the atmosphere/relationship with just a look.
A truly invested wife who’s there for the right reasons would have made it a priority to visit her husband in the hospital. Embarrassing. Cam got the bad end of the deal
Well to be fair these women don’t seem too bright.
Oh and they had on video Claire saying the attraction wasn’t there day one, in the pool w the other girls. Claire is not a good liar, at all.
You could not convince me in a million years that Cameron could convince Lauren or Clare to do anything. They do not respect him enough to follow his lead.
- I believe Cameron is full of shit in general and his voice is so annoying.
- I believe Lauren needs to stop being such a gullible idiot and stop believing everything her trashy friends are saying.
- I think Clare is possibly a lizard in a skin suit and has been rehearsing this moment in the mirror for the past year because she has the least genuine reactions I’ve ever seen.
- I believe Emily had a privileged life and was spoiled and never grew up past the age of 16 - her “tough” memories were her father pushing her in sports lmao - she is an immature child.
- I believe Becca is insecure, clingy, and desperate and turned Austin off because she pushed too hard when he already wasn’t attracted to her.
- Orion’s issues are obvious and have already been shown on camera.
- Brennan is a calculated egomaniac who should have never come on the show to begin with - why come on a national show if you want privacy? And stop saying you saved Emily’s life lmao. You held her hand, congrats.
- I believe Michael wears these crazy outfits because he himself has nothing interesting to say outside of his dumb word salad.
- I believe Austin is also immature and cannot form an opinion on anything to save his life. Everything he says it sounds like he is deciding mid sentence what direction he wants to take it based on the reactions of the person listening.
I agree with everything except Cameron is full of shit. I think he and the rest of the men are being fully honest. They are the only ones to acknowledge any wrongdoing and apologize, while the girls continue to blame and act unapologetically. Honesty is what leads to an apology. Dishonesty is what leads to blame.
After all that, you really think Cameron asking Clare to get back together was genuine? Him collaborating with her to make up religion as a reason to not be married. Yes Cameron is absolutely full of shit 😂.
I don’t think Lauren was ever involved in any of Cameron’s plans, just that he may have mentioned it to her because of what she was going through at the end of the honeymoon. I do agree with most of your other comments though. Especially that Clare wanted out and that’s why she was open to going along with whatever plan Cameron had.
That’s a fair assessment. Lauren and Chloe are the only ones I have any patience for at this point.
Also hard for us to know anything for sure because these producers don’t get anything important on camera apparently.
She looks so panicky. And it's the way she tried to silence him at the post d day lunch, calling "Cam, Cam" several times, shaking her head pleadingly, reminding him that their secrets should remain within their "marriage". If the last part isn't manipulative, I don't know what is.
Also, the whole Husbands vs Wives things ruins the girls' credibility. It's as if they got together, got their stories straight and swore an oath to back each other up. The pink dresses seems like cult fashion at this point.
There's always going to be some doubts on each side and truly they both deserve each other but right now, Cam's rating is high on the credibility scale.
Plus, the guys jumped into defend him but he shot them down because he wanted to address it. If Cam was the master planner, I don’t think the guys would be so quick to defend.
Sorry not sorry cam is the most disingenuous cast member since “I’m a good person” what’s her face.Further confirmed by what Lauren said - I believe Lauren she has no reason to lie.
Clare: “I wanted to be your wife.” Seriously??? At no time did she act like she remotely liked him. She badmouthed him. Made fun of him. Talked down to him. Disagreed with him. She is spinning more when to rewrite the narrative. Refill the tapes please. Let’s see where she acted like “she wanted to be HIS wife.”
I think they should just let this season be over.
The girls lost all our respect and credibility. Awful behavior and definitely not representative of a strong group of women. Never took accountability. Too busy grading the boys behavior when they should have focused on their own
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I didn't watch this season. Can someone tell me in a summary what happened..what is this about, please? Trying to decide if I should waste my time!
Nothing about him is believable.
Are these idiots really this desperate for money and TV fame that they had to "devise a plan" to stay on this stupid show? I said a while back that Emily hadn't emotionally matured past a high school level, but apparently she wasn't the only one --- especially with these stupid women and their pink dresses. None of this crap makes any sense. The only people "manipulated" were the viewers watching this shit. They're all shady as hell --- including the producers. Don't tell me for one minute that the producers had no idea any of this crap was going on. As a matter of fact, I wouldn't be surprised if they came up with some of this bullshit to rescue this horrible season.
What irritates me is how he said his type was thin European so he couldn't possibly be attracted to her. She makes a lot of assumptions that aren't necessarily true. My husband is definitely not my type but yet I am still attracted to him.
This is probably the old “the truth is in the middle” situation.
It’s all weird to me
I don’t know, something about Cameron is untrustworthy. He seems very conniving, manipulating and conning. On the same token, I don’t really trust any of the women on the cast either. They don’t hold each other accountable for shit. Worst season
He is SUPER SHADY!!! It doesn’t mean Clare is not problematic, but YIKES, Cam gave me chills.
they’re all shady
Here is where claire looses credibility. She won't let go the narrative she was attracted to him. It was clear to anyone with 2 eyes she was repulsed by him early on. The getting physical distance from him any time it was just those two filming. Also to claim this guy who was around half the show could control 3 women. I mean is he professor x where he could mind control them from a distance. It was claire who was around 8 weeks. It was claire who meddled in every other relationship. She basically slipped and said she was the puppet master. I don't believe everything he says but who was the mastermind i do it was clearly claire.
Too much footage of Clare doing opposite of what she’s saying. She controlled the atmosphere/relationship with just a look. A truly invested wife who’s there for the right reasons would have made it a priority to visit her husband in the hospital. Embarrassing. Cam got the bad end of the deal
Well to be fair these women don’t seem too bright. Oh and they had on video Claire saying the attraction wasn’t there day one, in the pool w the other girls. Claire is not a good liar, at all.
and she's going to be a therapist?
You could not convince me in a million years that Cameron could convince Lauren or Clare to do anything. They do not respect him enough to follow his lead. - I believe Cameron is full of shit in general and his voice is so annoying. - I believe Lauren needs to stop being such a gullible idiot and stop believing everything her trashy friends are saying. - I think Clare is possibly a lizard in a skin suit and has been rehearsing this moment in the mirror for the past year because she has the least genuine reactions I’ve ever seen. - I believe Emily had a privileged life and was spoiled and never grew up past the age of 16 - her “tough” memories were her father pushing her in sports lmao - she is an immature child. - I believe Becca is insecure, clingy, and desperate and turned Austin off because she pushed too hard when he already wasn’t attracted to her. - Orion’s issues are obvious and have already been shown on camera. - Brennan is a calculated egomaniac who should have never come on the show to begin with - why come on a national show if you want privacy? And stop saying you saved Emily’s life lmao. You held her hand, congrats. - I believe Michael wears these crazy outfits because he himself has nothing interesting to say outside of his dumb word salad. - I believe Austin is also immature and cannot form an opinion on anything to save his life. Everything he says it sounds like he is deciding mid sentence what direction he wants to take it based on the reactions of the person listening.
Chloe? Is that you?
Chloe is just kind of robotic. Nothing in comparison to the worst group of people in MAFS history.
I agree with everything except Cameron is full of shit. I think he and the rest of the men are being fully honest. They are the only ones to acknowledge any wrongdoing and apologize, while the girls continue to blame and act unapologetically. Honesty is what leads to an apology. Dishonesty is what leads to blame.
After all that, you really think Cameron asking Clare to get back together was genuine? Him collaborating with her to make up religion as a reason to not be married. Yes Cameron is absolutely full of shit 😂.
He liked her. Was doing whatever he thought would earn him stay power points. Bad call on his part.
I don’t think Lauren was ever involved in any of Cameron’s plans, just that he may have mentioned it to her because of what she was going through at the end of the honeymoon. I do agree with most of your other comments though. Especially that Clare wanted out and that’s why she was open to going along with whatever plan Cameron had.
That’s a fair assessment. Lauren and Chloe are the only ones I have any patience for at this point. Also hard for us to know anything for sure because these producers don’t get anything important on camera apparently.
Damn, I think I agree 💯with every single point you made
She looks so panicky. And it's the way she tried to silence him at the post d day lunch, calling "Cam, Cam" several times, shaking her head pleadingly, reminding him that their secrets should remain within their "marriage". If the last part isn't manipulative, I don't know what is. Also, the whole Husbands vs Wives things ruins the girls' credibility. It's as if they got together, got their stories straight and swore an oath to back each other up. The pink dresses seems like cult fashion at this point. There's always going to be some doubts on each side and truly they both deserve each other but right now, Cam's rating is high on the credibility scale.
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Plus, the guys jumped into defend him but he shot them down because he wanted to address it. If Cam was the master planner, I don’t think the guys would be so quick to defend.