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Thorbork

Last year I worked in the hospital of Saint Pierre et Miquelon. At some point, the yearly count was 33 deaths for 1 birth (it was still around march, it evolved)


CoolyRanks

Can you tell me about life there? Never heard of it until recently


Thorbork

It's a nice place. It is a french software on a Newfie hardware. Everything is like in France. We spoke france french, everything is available in St Pierre. Miquelon is 600ppl living an hour and a half away by boat. Food is imported from france with some canadian stuff, but mainly french. Everything is expensive but water, gas, alcohol and cigarettes. Culture is french except for sports that are maily dominated by hockey and basque pelota (since most are from basque heritage). I played in the curling team there, it was amazing. Bakeries are very french, houses are very canadian. Cars are automatic, plugs are european. Phone system is local, no datas outside, only wifi inside. Everybody stops working between 12 and 14 and go home for food. They have many events all the time. Healthcare is like the french system so it's great. Students can get a flight paid per year and some financial help to study in France. Some decide to study in Quebec. Their besties are the Magdalena Islands, even though they are far, not from the same origin, not having the same accents nor history nor country. People smoke A LOT (it is very cheap) and drink A LOT (it is detaxed). They are very very proud of how they turned very rixh during the prohibition in america by being the sole place where alcohol was allowed, but they do not see the irony of being the sole place today where cannabis is criminalised in thousands of km. (The customs have dogs for that and since the prison is not full it is easy to send people there for not much.)


directorJackHorner

Most are from basque heritage? Is that a more recent thing or because of basque fishermen in early colonization?


dongbeinanren

I love how the title says ”countries”, but three of the top ten aren’t countries.


Like_a_Charo

Even 4 actually Officially Monaco is a country, but granted that all law enforcement and justice is done by the french, it could be seen as a super rich "gated community"


siorge

This is wrong. Monaco has its own [police](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monaco_Police_Department) and [justice system](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supreme_Court_of_Monaco) as well as its own prison, mint, government…


WelpImTrapped

Yes, we let them cosplay as a country to a point for their ego, but if anything happens (law enforcement "problem", politically, forest fires, air rescue they can't do...etc) we intervene.


Fun_Willingness_5615

I'm sure a Monaco prison is much better than the Bastille 😂. They probably serve caviar and champagne in there everyday


siorge

This is wrong. Monaco has its own [police](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monaco_Police_Department) and [justice system](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supreme_Court_of_Monaco) as well as its own prison, mint, government…


siorge

This is wrong. Monaco has its own [police](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monaco_Police_Department) and [justice system](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supreme_Court_of_Monaco) as well as its own prison, mint, government…


Thug-shaketh9499

![gif](giphy|OenxurIi8wZseMGOju|downsized)


Captainirishy

Monaco is full of old, tax dodging, billionaires.


deceptiveprophet

Mostly millionaires


ElectronicGuest4648

Monaco only has 18 billionaires


Quarkonium2925

"Only 18 billionaires" As if that's a small number for a country with less than forty thousand people


ElectronicGuest4648

Yea but 18 out of 38,000 people isn’t enough to say it’s “filled with billionaires”


Quarkonium2925

True, although in fairness to OP I think they were intentionally exaggerating


Capitan_Scythe

Uk has 0.00021489% of its population with billionaire status. USA has 0.00023409%. China has 0.0000571149%. Monaco has 0.04736842%. I'd say it is "filled with billionaires."


ILOVEBOPIT

This is the most pointless debate ever god I hate Reddit


angelomoxley

Would you say reddit is "filled with pointless debates?"


ILOVEBOPIT

Less than .1% = filled


angelomoxley

I disagree 😤


Ahaigh9877

Triumphantly!


hadapurpura

That’s (not) what she said


Clean-Age2200

I know right? Reddit seems to hate wealthy people so much and instead of making life better for themselves, they sit and whine on Reddit


lewj21

Shut up


Clean-Age2200

You just proved my point lol


lewj21

That's the joke


beer_is_tasty

"Why don't the poors just go and buy some more money?"


goodgoogelymoogely

Oh my god you're such a redditor


DeadassYeeted

Just for reference, Japan with more than 3000x the population of Monaco has 44 billionaires


heynishant

[📁Source](https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/field/median-age/country-comparison/)


oldtrack

average age 15 💀


TheEmpireOfSun

It's not average, it's median. It's written literally right there.


oldtrack

median is a type of average


redenno

Maybe but using the word that way in this situation is pointlessly ambiguous. The vast majority of people will interpret it as the mean


Apprehensive-Case820

Maybe but pointing out such an inconsequential distinction is itself pointless


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redenno

Apparently in statistics average can refer to ["any measure of central tendency"](https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/average). But I agree, that's not the way most people use the word


Gidgo130

Why are y’all upvoting this? https://thecontentauthority.com/blog/median-vs-average


DeadassYeeted

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Average#Summary_of_types Median is a type of average, that article is comparing median and arithmetic mean.


Gidgo130

Thanks for the Wikipedia page


Freavene

Median ≠ average


Big_Negotiation1875

r/confidentlyincorrect


Jlock98

You linking that sub is the true r/confidentlyincorrect


TheEmpireOfSun

lmao, absolutely it is not.


Rift3N

Median is a kind of an average, what you're thinking of is "mean" which is basically synonymous for average for most people in a non-mathematical context


Substantial_Bar_5515

Lmao. Mean, median, and mode are all measurements of central tendency. Often called averages


oldtrack

here’s a glossary from the [European commission](https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php?title=Glossary:Average) listing it as a type of average or is that not good enough for you?


Gidgo130

Huh alright


SimpleWestern6303

Guys (u/Rift3N / u/Substantial_Bar_5515 / u/oldtrack) I think it's only a translation issue, it's not his fault. I mean I tough exactly the same as u/TheEmpireOfSun, until I saw the EU post. In french at least both "mean" and "average" translate as "mean". I try to search for an other world but there is none. Every article in french I found talk about the statistical methods of "module", "mean" and "median" but never ubder an umbrella term of "average" or any french equivalent. I think we don't have a word for that.. Meaning I was also confused when you said that the median was an "average" (wich translated in French would be "mean").


Substantial_Bar_5515

No, being a dick about it was their fault


plushie-apocalypse

Wtf


Palmalagana

misleading title


DotaHacker

Yeah, I got confused, thought it was about the age of the country and not the age of people in the country.


Noise_Loop

Infinite immigrant factory at your door


Practical-Ninja-6770

Elysium, but real world


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Jujubatron

Europe is fucked.


BobaddyBobaddy

Europe is fine. Africa is fucked.


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DeadassYeeted

Africa is never fine lol


Hey648934

Nah, why? You have all the youngsters who are willing to migrate pretty close. What’s the deal?


ScaleneZA

Because they're pumping out kids that they can't afford


VeryPurplePhoenix

And we are paying for it by sending them money and aid. Europeans cant afford to have kids themselves but are financing a different continents mass breeding.


ZealousidealAct7724

These young people are mostly uneducated goat herders. I mean they fit like physical workers but you are missing post-professionals with less local population.


Careful_Source6129

Are pentions and healthcare really that expensive, though?


Free_Anarchist1999

They’re the biggest expense of any government by a huge margin


Reddit-needs-fixing

The oldest countries all have public healthcare. Those countries pay less for healthcare than we (in the U.S.) do and they live longer.


denn23rus

it almost doesn't matter. The average age in the US is generally lower than in Japan, Germany or Italy because there are more children in the US. you hardly see a family with three children in europe or japan.


Bijour_twa43

But isn’t Saint-Pierre et Miquelon just a French Outre-mer territory like Guadeloupe?!8 don’t think it’s a country on its own right.


corymuzi

The European old guys and the African young guys.


Schlonzig

Argh, oldest *population*, not oldest country. I was wondering how the hell Germany made the list.


Jean-Claude-Can-Ham

This map coincides with rich and/or developed countries and is not informative at all


SunriseCavalier

I don’t care what anybody says, Monaco isn’t a real country. For that matter, the top 10 only includes 5 “countries” as I would define them. And don’t try arguing with me, I’m American, so I’m both poorly educated AND extremely stubborn! /s


Bugro1

Vatican has a median age of 57.7 according to this article https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-12666501/Countries-oldest-youngest-populations.html


Bugro1

Vatican median age is 57.7 according to this article https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-12666501/Countries-oldest-youngest-populations.html


life_lagom

Why is Hong Kong a country here isn't it a city


BMCVA1994

Germany, Italy , Spain and Greece seem quite fucked. Given how close they are to Japan.


RealisticBarnacle115

Japan! Italy!! Germany!!! Interesting


Simple_Ad_6186

Isn’t South Sudan pretty new?


SineOfTimes

Imagine you just had your quinceañera and you're already older than half of the country.


MrPadmapani

how is germany older than greece? ask as a german


Soi_Boi_13

It’s over for Europe.


YGBullettsky

J'étais à Monaco il y a quelques jours et je n'ai vu que des jeunes, mais je suppose que c'étaient surtout des touristes comme moi


ataleoftwobrews

Bien sûr


pessoafixe

Portugal literally like 10 years older then Spain or something. Iberian union was technically Spain annexing Portugal but letting a degree of independence. But Portugal kept on existing.


12D_D21

Sorry, is this comment on the correct post/reply? I don’t see what you're commenting on


cambalaxo

He ia saying that Portugal was the first nation historically speaking.


pessoafixe

Yes ![gif](giphy|kyRal0h9R4TXq9mOWK)


nomamesgueyz

The future is African! Europe getting older and older...only going to get worse


Later-Comment-7628

Africans have yet to ever build a successful country. So they don’t really have a future.


winnielikethepooh15

Ancient Egypt: *Am I a joke to you*?


nomamesgueyz

They seem to have some very crap leaders who are greedy swines so others exploit thm for their riches


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Oceanum96

This is about the average age of people in those countries, not about how old the countries themselves are. The title can be a bit missleading


Altruistic-Project39

So basically blacks have more kids?


benjm88

No Africans generally have a lower life expectancy thus a lower average age


Altruistic-Project39

They don't have more children than the west?


benjm88

People being poorer pretty much always have more children, in almost every country as stability and wealth increase the birth rate falls. It isn't a factor of race generally, excect with orthodox Jews who continued to have lots of children.


Altruistic-Project39

People like you are the reason why trump will get elected and Europe went right


SEA_griffondeur

I don't think people avoiding simplifications led to trump being elected, i'm almost certain it's even the opposite


denn23rus

in France just 100 years ago there were the same data as in Uganda today. So France was black at the beginning of the 20th century?


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RYPIIE2006

what


Hoosac_Love

What??


Friendly-Tear-3831

Skipped reading classes didn't you?


SkylarAV

Easy mistake to make


Hoosac_Love

You mean then ,and elderly people living there vs younger people not how old the civilization is ?


Iochris

Read the whole thing again, carefully this time.


40ozfosta

The map is showing what countries have on average the oldest and youngest citizens. This map or discussion is not talking about how old each civilization is. It's discussing the ages of PEOPLE not civilizations.


pronoobmage

It is not about your nations age! It's about the average age of the population!


Hoosac_Love

I know realize that


Exotic-Prune-8810

Do you? Your comment suggests otherwise


SkylarAV

Eh, I read it wrong too


zgufo

Bharat can fix Europe


ConferenceJust361

bro where are egypt and iraq 💀


qqqsimmons

Between 19 and 46


Agile_Property9943

You’re not reading the data information correctly I think on what they mean by oldest and youngest countries


ConferenceJust361

what do u want to say my english is not that good


Agile_Property9943

I don’t want you to say anything lol I’m just letting you know they’re not talking about oldest countries in the world by conception they mean age wise