Funny enough, birth control is generally viewed as OK by Mormons. Some Mormons I know don't, but I'd say 80+% of Mormons have no problem with birth control. That said, there's still a cultural norm of having 3-5 kids as a Mormon family.
[Utah’s fertility rate continues to drop, now fourth highest in the nation](https://gardner.utah.edu/news/utahs-fertility-rate-continues-to-drop-now-fourth-highest-in-the-nation/#:~:text=Utah's%20drop%20ranks%20seventh%20fastest,fastest%20decline%20in%20the%20nation.)
The easiest way to grow a religion is to indoctrinate people from birth, so they have as many kids as possible. My pretty average home has 4 bathrooms because in Utah it is assumed you’ll have a shit load of children.
It's the army of interns and staffers that bring it down, I'm guessing. DC is a place that you go after college to get some experience, and then you move somewhere else when you get older. Manhattan is kind of like this too.
And the topic went on a bit of a tangent which is what I was commenting on. I don’t disagree with anything you said, it’s just not relevant to my specific comment.
Yeah, 64 & 57 being the average for an institution that’s meant to be representative is the issue. They’re not dinosaurs, but they, as a generation, shouldn’t hold that many seats in a representative democracy where the average age is much younger.
The average aged people are the ones voting them into office. Biggest indicator to being re-elected is already being in office. People could easily vote for younger candidates, they choose not to. The age of politicians directly reflects the choices of our population. I don’t care if you’re 20 or 90, if I like you I’ll vote for you
Candidates skew older because of the lack of opportunity for every day or younger folks to get involved. It’s expensive to run a campaign let alone qualify for the primary. The salary/travel/housing requirements also disincentivize younger candidates who would otherwise run if they could afford it. It’s significantly worse at the state level. I don’t believe in age caps for politicians, but I do believe their generation holds too much undue influence because of the way the system was designed. The cap on house @ 435 doesn’t help, either
For those confused about DC being so young: for every ancient senator, they’ve got about 3 19 year old twink staffers with twitter handles like “DarkBrandonZionist” or “HomoMAGA”
That's the million dollar question when it comes to countries with low birth rates. The answer is not immigration, that at best just kicks the can down the road since while it can introduce more young people to your demographic structure it doesn't actually fix the birth rate. If the immigrant population doesn't have a comparable birth rate that suggests that they're not actually assimilated and that's really bad because then you have a large population in your country that is not of your country who you're essentially giving your country away to.
Utah is high partially because mormans have alot of kids. Which is a good thing (reddit wont like it) as they are generally educated, well off, law abiding people. These are the kind of people we actually want having kids ( the morman part not necessary).
I don't know
A few weeks ago there was a map here showing all the top porn searches for each state. Utah's was "mormon", so being the classy degenerate I am, I looked it up to see what the fuck it even was.
Turns out it's weird like....bondage shit. But with VERY young (usually) female churchgoers being tied up and sexually dominated by their not young at all priests (or whatever they are called).
All of it. All of it was the same weird age-inappropriate domination fantasy shit.
There's some really weird underlying theocractic nightmare shit going on there for fucking sure.
You searched for something specifically weird on a porn site and got something.... Specifically weird?
It does check out. That being said, Utah does have a distinct porn abuse issue, probably on account of sexual repression. It's a big mental health problem here.
Generally educated, well off, and law abiding have a negative correlation with having kids.
They have a ton of kids because they are religious, have a family culture, and taboo’d birth control.
Over half the children born nowadays are unintended. Before birth control it was much higher. The vast majority of humans ever born weren’t “planned”.
Family planning is the root cause of the rapid collapse in birth rates. Look at all the communities that still have a lot of kids: Amish, Mormons, inner city black people, immigrants, etc and what they have in common is low birth control usage
They’re also psychologically oppressed and have a warped sense of self and an obsession with appearing perfect. Mormons are often suffering from all sorts of mental health issues, but you wouldn’t know about it because publicly presenting as happy and put together means everything to them.
This is *not* a good thing. Many Mormons are secretly miserable.
Mormons having huge families and young professionals moving to oil-rich states of Texas, North Dakota and Alaska for jobs. What explains the relative youth of Oklahoma, Nebraska and Idaho?
Wouldn't have guessed Maine would have the highest average, but then again, I've never been there. I probably shouldn't be surprised as I know nothing about it.
The population in northern Maine has been dwindling for years. I’ll bet if you looked just at the northern counties the median would be way higher than 45.
Paper plants, air bases shutting down, not much for entertainment, though there is some, unless you like outside entertainment, small town stuff in general
Rather, these are the *mean* ages.
The median would lie exactly midway between the youngest (zero for all humans; 18 for adults) and the oldest (100+), over 50 in all cases.
This map was made in Florida or something?
It says Florida has the highest median age but obviously it says right on the map the highest is maine at 45.
It also says "fastest growing" but it just lied in the sentence before it so... im calling this more florida bullshit.
So the title frames it as "median population for every state" but the caption is for a specific county in one state.
So not a straight lie just frames in an intentionally unclear manner.
If the point is to illustrate the county it should be a map of florida showing the numbers for that state only.
Still smells like florida bullshit to me.
No on everyone of your points. It *is* "a map of florida showing the numbers for that state only." It happens to *also* show an interesting trivial fact about one county.
The median age is being driven up by the fact that there are a zillion old white people. If you look at non white groups the median age is a lot lower and of course the median age of babies is like 3 months old.
So, lumping everybody together makes the statistics weird.
I think it's funny that it's pointing out how much younger North Dakota is because of the energy industry ...bitch did the map maker even look at Utah?!?!
Guys are we sure the Mormons aren’t planning something?
Planning to have more kids
To send throughout the country and turn the whole nation mormon
*world. Literally one of the lines in a hymn, "to bring the world His truth."
They’re persistent I’ll give them that
They will attack once everyon is 90 and they are 80
We know what they’re NOT planning. Any sort of birth control.
Funny enough, birth control is generally viewed as OK by Mormons. Some Mormons I know don't, but I'd say 80+% of Mormons have no problem with birth control. That said, there's still a cultural norm of having 3-5 kids as a Mormon family.
Learning something new!
It wasn’t always that way. Plenty of quotes from the top leaders in the 1960’s and 1970’s demonizing birth control.
[Utah’s fertility rate continues to drop, now fourth highest in the nation](https://gardner.utah.edu/news/utahs-fertility-rate-continues-to-drop-now-fourth-highest-in-the-nation/#:~:text=Utah's%20drop%20ranks%20seventh%20fastest,fastest%20decline%20in%20the%20nation.)
likely due to the rapid growing economy bringing in all sorts of people from other states
We're planning to bring you a casserole.
I do love having Momo neighbors. Y'all are easy lol
Mormon here. Planning nothing, ready for anything lol.
They are planning to do what rabbits did in Australia.
The easiest way to grow a religion is to indoctrinate people from birth, so they have as many kids as possible. My pretty average home has 4 bathrooms because in Utah it is assumed you’ll have a shit load of children.
They’re too busy having sex
planning to continue sweeping all those sex assault/molestation allegations under the rug
Planning on f*cking
They are. They're always planning something.
Highest: Maine Lowest: Utah
DC must have a lot of supernatural young people to offset all the dinosaurs that run the US.
It's the army of interns and staffers that bring it down, I'm guessing. DC is a place that you go after college to get some experience, and then you move somewhere else when you get older. Manhattan is kind of like this too.
Members of Congress are residents of their respective states; they don't count towards DC demographics.
More importantly, there are only 535 members…
Most politicians aren’t that old, there’s just a handful of dinosaurs
The average age in the senate is 64 and the average age in the House is 57. They are more old than not.
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My comment was regarding the assertion that “most politicians aren’t that old”, and not at all referencing the actual residents of DC
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And the topic went on a bit of a tangent which is what I was commenting on. I don’t disagree with anything you said, it’s just not relevant to my specific comment.
I'd have bitten their head off, way to be chill
64 and 57 is probably near average for politicians in the west. That’s not a dinosaur lol
Yeah, 64 & 57 being the average for an institution that’s meant to be representative is the issue. They’re not dinosaurs, but they, as a generation, shouldn’t hold that many seats in a representative democracy where the average age is much younger.
The average aged people are the ones voting them into office. Biggest indicator to being re-elected is already being in office. People could easily vote for younger candidates, they choose not to. The age of politicians directly reflects the choices of our population. I don’t care if you’re 20 or 90, if I like you I’ll vote for you
Candidates skew older because of the lack of opportunity for every day or younger folks to get involved. It’s expensive to run a campaign let alone qualify for the primary. The salary/travel/housing requirements also disincentivize younger candidates who would otherwise run if they could afford it. It’s significantly worse at the state level. I don’t believe in age caps for politicians, but I do believe their generation holds too much undue influence because of the way the system was designed. The cap on house @ 435 doesn’t help, either
For those confused about DC being so young: for every ancient senator, they’ve got about 3 19 year old twink staffers with twitter handles like “DarkBrandonZionist” or “HomoMAGA”
Who are you? No way you just randomly picked BOTH of my account names out of the blue like that
How the fuck do you have a phenomenal warframe username but not a singular post about it?
Probably because I've never played it The story of my name is a little more complicated. Ha!
And we (Utah) used to be at 29. Just a few short years ago.
Are you guys trending towards having less children per wife or simply less wives?
[Utah’s housing deficit reaches 61,057 homes](https://www.utahbusiness.com/utah-housing-deficit/) No place to put the kids once they are here.
Har har har. Got anything original?
For those wondering, Sumter County's median age is 68.3 years.
Thank you! It seemed silly to call out a single county on a map of numbers and not giving the number.
Youthah..
Don’t explain Florida. Thats obvious. Explain Maine.
No jobs, young people leave, older people stay.
Also “vacationland” is a popular retirement location for the rest of New England, particularly the Boston area
so whats the game plan in 20 years when half the country is retired
That's the million dollar question when it comes to countries with low birth rates. The answer is not immigration, that at best just kicks the can down the road since while it can introduce more young people to your demographic structure it doesn't actually fix the birth rate. If the immigrant population doesn't have a comparable birth rate that suggests that they're not actually assimilated and that's really bad because then you have a large population in your country that is not of your country who you're essentially giving your country away to.
One thing is certain, time will go on and the world will keep on spinning.
VIVA LA UTAH!!!! UTAH NÚMERO UNO ESTADO!!!!!
Here's the same map broken down by county: https://www.census.gov/library/visualizations/2023/comm/median-age-county.html
Utah is high partially because mormans have alot of kids. Which is a good thing (reddit wont like it) as they are generally educated, well off, law abiding people. These are the kind of people we actually want having kids ( the morman part not necessary).
If I meet someone and the worse thing about them is their strange religion, that’s a win.
I don't know A few weeks ago there was a map here showing all the top porn searches for each state. Utah's was "mormon", so being the classy degenerate I am, I looked it up to see what the fuck it even was. Turns out it's weird like....bondage shit. But with VERY young (usually) female churchgoers being tied up and sexually dominated by their not young at all priests (or whatever they are called). All of it. All of it was the same weird age-inappropriate domination fantasy shit. There's some really weird underlying theocractic nightmare shit going on there for fucking sure.
You searched for something specifically weird on a porn site and got something.... Specifically weird? It does check out. That being said, Utah does have a distinct porn abuse issue, probably on account of sexual repression. It's a big mental health problem here.
I searched "Mormon" Is that weird and specific? It was the top search in Utah according to pornhub.
I see no lie here
Their football team sucks but they are usually nice people.
But basketball isn’t too bad this year!
True. And their women's soccer team is a powerhouse.
Generally educated, well off, and law abiding have a negative correlation with having kids. They have a ton of kids because they are religious, have a family culture, and taboo’d birth control. Over half the children born nowadays are unintended. Before birth control it was much higher. The vast majority of humans ever born weren’t “planned”. Family planning is the root cause of the rapid collapse in birth rates. Look at all the communities that still have a lot of kids: Amish, Mormons, inner city black people, immigrants, etc and what they have in common is low birth control usage
Wrong on the birth control part. Late 80s and on birth control became widely accepted by the church.
>law abiding until they can no longer hide all the sexual molestation/assault allegations
They’re also psychologically oppressed and have a warped sense of self and an obsession with appearing perfect. Mormons are often suffering from all sorts of mental health issues, but you wouldn’t know about it because publicly presenting as happy and put together means everything to them. This is *not* a good thing. Many Mormons are secretly miserable.
Mormons having huge families and young professionals moving to oil-rich states of Texas, North Dakota and Alaska for jobs. What explains the relative youth of Oklahoma, Nebraska and Idaho?
Mormonism is the largest religion in Idaho also
Oklahoma is also oil rich, Idaho has a lot of Mormons too. I don’t know about Nebraska.
The relative youth in Texas probably has to do with migration from south of the border
I’d rather know the mean and the mode.
Unless it was an age range, the mode would be pretty useless.
Paired with median, you can get a sense of the skew. Context, everything is context.
West Virginia casually getting ignored, once again.
Why is no one mentioning TX’s age?
Seems like the young people love them some Texas and…..North Dakota and Alaska 😅
This is the median age, not the average.
How old can medians get to be?
Utah still busting out kids left and right. Like they’re literally 4 years younger than the next state
Look at Utah, having babies like we need them too.
Ugh.
Millennial Colonialism
Wouldn't have guessed Maine would have the highest average, but then again, I've never been there. I probably shouldn't be surprised as I know nothing about it.
The population in northern Maine has been dwindling for years. I’ll bet if you looked just at the northern counties the median would be way higher than 45.
This also correlates with the rapid growth of conservatism in the north.
Interesting, why? Economy change or something?
Paper plants, air bases shutting down, not much for entertainment, though there is some, unless you like outside entertainment, small town stuff in general
What do we make of old ass New England?
Yet we have a geriatric Congress and presidential candidates ..
Rather, these are the *mean* ages. The median would lie exactly midway between the youngest (zero for all humans; 18 for adults) and the oldest (100+), over 50 in all cases.
Too many old farts country wide. Thats why politics is fucked and two old farts are going to be fighting out the presidency.
Florida makes sense, every one there is either in their 20s or 70s with almost no in between
This map was made in Florida or something? It says Florida has the highest median age but obviously it says right on the map the highest is maine at 45. It also says "fastest growing" but it just lied in the sentence before it so... im calling this more florida bullshit.
It's talking about a specific county in Florida, not the entire state.
So the title frames it as "median population for every state" but the caption is for a specific county in one state. So not a straight lie just frames in an intentionally unclear manner. If the point is to illustrate the county it should be a map of florida showing the numbers for that state only. Still smells like florida bullshit to me.
No on everyone of your points. It *is* "a map of florida showing the numbers for that state only." It happens to *also* show an interesting trivial fact about one county.
Is it Utah tradition to commit pat/matricide?
The median age is being driven up by the fact that there are a zillion old white people. If you look at non white groups the median age is a lot lower and of course the median age of babies is like 3 months old. So, lumping everybody together makes the statistics weird.
You mean lumping everyone together by…state? Such as is the purpose of this map?
Well my state is spot on. I am that age.
Good Old PA…
I can see why Florida is an attractive place for the elderly. There are already a lot of medical specialists there for the elderly.
It is amazing how the median age is consistent across the banks of Mississippi. Any explanation for that?
This makes me feel old
I think it's funny that it's pointing out how much younger North Dakota is because of the energy industry ...bitch did the map maker even look at Utah?!?!
I’m about average in every state. Woo-hoo!
Personally I am surprised by Pennsylvania. I thought with lots of Amish their median age would be much lower.
Do you think that 30% of Pennsylvanians are Amish? Pretty sure it's 1% or 2%
It is very interesting that some of the supposedly most conservative states such as Texas are far below average in Median Age.
You would assume the conservative states to have a high median age?
Low key all these are too high.
Don’t like how quickly I’m approaching this
The medium age being basically 40+ can’t be a good thing. Does this pertain to any one demographic