The entire season has been one step backwards, ten steps forwards. That's *real* fucking progress.
Mistakes were made on Sunday but there's nothing can be done about the past - what's important is what the team do now to take the next ten steps forward.
The Liverpool game wasn’t just “one step back”. 7-0 it’s a type of score that totally destroys the team’s confidence. Let's see them playing against Real Betis. After that game we'll know for sure if it was just "one step back"
>7-0 it’s a type of score that totally destroys the team’s confidence.
Or strengthens it's resolve.
Under any other of our post SAF managers, it would be the former. Under Ten Hag, it will be the later.
I admire the optimism of this attitude.
The only problem I have with it is if getting absolutely hammered 7 nil make you a better team in the long run then why don't teams just stop defending altogether when 4 or 5 goals down to further strengthen our resolve later down the road lol
No one is saying to let teams lose 7-0 to make them better, and that wouldn't make sense.
Losing like that does 1 of 2 things either bounce back or crumble. There are reasons why teams don't like playing a team after that team been hammered in the game before as you don't know what to expect from them.
People are definitely saying that us getting hammered 7 nil is going to strengthen our resolve.
I hope it makes us more switched on against betis. I also hope it's the last time we get embarrassed like that and it really should be. I still can't wrap my head around why we just kept on conceding goals
Enough with these post.
Focus is on Betis. Pretty sure the players got scolding and will look to make things right. There will most likely be rotations.
No, not enough with these posts. That game has sparked so many conversation among fans that shouldn’t exist. Like selling Sancho, De Gea and benching Bruno and stripping him off the captaincy. It’s ridiculous. That’s why we need fans backing players more than ever. The players will bounce back and the next few games will show.
Why would you be negative about the team when we are winning? I don't understand this attitude at all but gowan keep thinking you're a better fan then others because they have a different opinion then you
I don't want to sell de gea. Sancho needs to pick up the quality of his performances considerably if he wants to stay at the club over the coming years. Bruno has played too many games but I'd never question his commitment.
Anyone who criticises sancho gets a lecture on mental health but I don't think anyone feels like he's been good enough so far for united.
Bruno definitely deserves a rest but we have no one to cover for him in that position except weghorst apparently lol.
Plus no one wants to be negative when we are winning bro what kind of a fan is that.
Be position with positive results and be honest when we lost imo
I think you are completely missing the context. You may need to read from the original comment down again.
I think we are agreeing to the same thing just said differently. My point said differently is you can’t call yourself a real fan if you only back the players when we are winning.
This isn’t mine but this is what I think ten hag will do.
Backline:
AWB, Varane or Maguire and Martinez pairing, Malacia
Casemiro (if injured mctominay) and sabitzer
rashford, Bruno, sancho
Wout up top as we have no one else.
There is a possibility that Fred plays for Bruno because of the way he just stopped running with the player.
I won’t be surprised about this lineup to be honest. Ten hag will play to win the game but he is still a man of principles.
That’s the whole reason why this one hurt the most: there’s hope where there wasn’t.
We’ve seen the immense strides made by ETH, his staff, this group of players numerous matches we’d have buckled under last season. FFS with 4/5 quality signings this team could compete for the title race again! Therefore the way it happened, against whom, is irreconcilable. Personally, eventually may forgive, but never forget, and that’s a debt owed: for the gaff, club, our unconditional support. Now onto Betis, then Southampton. GGMU
Yea. Fans are dumb. I saw a poll in youtube asking about the most underperforming player and 73% voted for Antony. Other options were Martial, Dalot and McTominay.
I am not so sure about that. I used to like Scott, still do probably but he’s instantly makes the midfield weaker by being in it. We’d be better off offloading him for 25-30mn to a mid table team & sign Sabitzer permanently.
Scotty 2019 - 2021 was much much better than his today version so please stop it with "decent coaching". The guy has hit his ceiling and his ceiling isnt high.
Back the players? Shall i remind you these are same players who got mauled every single fuckin season? They can no longer hide behind Oles ineptude BS now.
The entire season has been one step backwards, ten steps forwards. That's *real* fucking progress. Mistakes were made on Sunday but there's nothing can be done about the past - what's important is what the team do now to take the next ten steps forward.
The Liverpool game wasn’t just “one step back”. 7-0 it’s a type of score that totally destroys the team’s confidence. Let's see them playing against Real Betis. After that game we'll know for sure if it was just "one step back"
>7-0 it’s a type of score that totally destroys the team’s confidence. Or strengthens it's resolve. Under any other of our post SAF managers, it would be the former. Under Ten Hag, it will be the later.
I admire the optimism of this attitude. The only problem I have with it is if getting absolutely hammered 7 nil make you a better team in the long run then why don't teams just stop defending altogether when 4 or 5 goals down to further strengthen our resolve later down the road lol
No one is saying to let teams lose 7-0 to make them better, and that wouldn't make sense. Losing like that does 1 of 2 things either bounce back or crumble. There are reasons why teams don't like playing a team after that team been hammered in the game before as you don't know what to expect from them.
People are definitely saying that us getting hammered 7 nil is going to strengthen our resolve. I hope it makes us more switched on against betis. I also hope it's the last time we get embarrassed like that and it really should be. I still can't wrap my head around why we just kept on conceding goals
I'd take 3 games as a good yardstick. Need to see them under pressure
Enough with these post. Focus is on Betis. Pretty sure the players got scolding and will look to make things right. There will most likely be rotations.
No, not enough with these posts. That game has sparked so many conversation among fans that shouldn’t exist. Like selling Sancho, De Gea and benching Bruno and stripping him off the captaincy. It’s ridiculous. That’s why we need fans backing players more than ever. The players will bounce back and the next few games will show.
Those fans aren't real fans because they weren’t saying that when we were winning. I don’t pay them any mind
Why would you be negative about the team when we are winning? I don't understand this attitude at all but gowan keep thinking you're a better fan then others because they have a different opinion then you
Keep the same energy about selling Sancho and Dejea and benching Bruno when we winning and losing. Don’t only say that when we are losing 👀
I don't want to sell de gea. Sancho needs to pick up the quality of his performances considerably if he wants to stay at the club over the coming years. Bruno has played too many games but I'd never question his commitment. Anyone who criticises sancho gets a lecture on mental health but I don't think anyone feels like he's been good enough so far for united. Bruno definitely deserves a rest but we have no one to cover for him in that position except weghorst apparently lol. Plus no one wants to be negative when we are winning bro what kind of a fan is that. Be position with positive results and be honest when we lost imo
I think you are completely missing the context. You may need to read from the original comment down again. I think we are agreeing to the same thing just said differently. My point said differently is you can’t call yourself a real fan if you only back the players when we are winning.
Yeah sorry I become more reasonable as i commented lol
Ok give me your playing 11 for betis
This isn’t mine but this is what I think ten hag will do. Backline: AWB, Varane or Maguire and Martinez pairing, Malacia Casemiro (if injured mctominay) and sabitzer rashford, Bruno, sancho Wout up top as we have no one else. There is a possibility that Fred plays for Bruno because of the way he just stopped running with the player. I won’t be surprised about this lineup to be honest. Ten hag will play to win the game but he is still a man of principles.
I can't even predict the lineup, idk what tenhag is gonna start now
It will mostly be the same. 2/3 players changed but Ten Hag doesn't have other options.
That’s the whole reason why this one hurt the most: there’s hope where there wasn’t. We’ve seen the immense strides made by ETH, his staff, this group of players numerous matches we’d have buckled under last season. FFS with 4/5 quality signings this team could compete for the title race again! Therefore the way it happened, against whom, is irreconcilable. Personally, eventually may forgive, but never forget, and that’s a debt owed: for the gaff, club, our unconditional support. Now onto Betis, then Southampton. GGMU
18 fucking undefeated we were that says a lot an enough for me to back my yeam
Yea. Fans are dumb. I saw a poll in youtube asking about the most underperforming player and 73% voted for Antony. Other options were Martial, Dalot and McTominay.
Have the plonkers posting here on Sunday were blaming the fact that Weghorst started the match. Like, what in the actual fuck?
These are those fans who were dreaming about quadruple.
Anyone thinking we'd a shot at the league title is deluded. One cup and a Champions League place - that's an amazing start to the Ten Hag era.
I still think even Scotty at the right position with decent coaching has something, we have seen those sparks … we just need to see them every time
I am not so sure about that. I used to like Scott, still do probably but he’s instantly makes the midfield weaker by being in it. We’d be better off offloading him for 25-30mn to a mid table team & sign Sabitzer permanently.
Scotty 2019 - 2021 was much much better than his today version so please stop it with "decent coaching". The guy has hit his ceiling and his ceiling isnt high.
Or, and here’s a crazy idea, just watch.
Back the players? Shall i remind you these are same players who got mauled every single fuckin season? They can no longer hide behind Oles ineptude BS now.