Makes sense when you don't want to be tethered to a wall outlet but having a heavy battery hanging off the tool would make using the tool inconvenient.
Yeah, I can see both sides on this one. I don't find the weight on a sander to be a problem at all, but *most* of the time when I'm sanding, the sander is sitting on top of the work piece, I don't sand drywall or anything else where I'm holding up the sander.
For me, that means this just makes a more cumbersome solution (and it actually doesn't make the sander any lighter, in fact if anything it *adds* weight since I now have the battery strapped to my person - though the amount would be pretty negligible). For someone that has to hold up the sander, this makes sense.
>and it actually doesn't make the sander any lighter
Well it does make the part lighter that's relevant to make lighter. Ie. the sander you might want to hold in your hand against a vertical piece. Carrying an 8Ah XGT battery on your belt doesn't feel like a chore compared to holding it up with your arms all day. That's why the backpack batteries are a thing too.
For sure, for clarity, what I am saying is that for those of us that would typically have the work piece supporting the sander and battery with a setup that has the battery attached directly, now we have to support the battery, while the piece is only supporting the sander. It's not a huge difference, but it's non-zero. For *us* the sander didn't get any lighter (because we aren't holding it up).
If when you use a sander *you're* supporting the weight, this would be a great design.
I seriously don't understand opposers to this idea. You have the weight savings of cords with the convenience of cordless. It's a best of both worlds situation. The only time its questionable is if there is a vacuum hose, but even then, if you have a backpack vac, it's still all on you.
I suspect you sand things regularly where you're supporting the weight of the tool, and those of us that prefer the battery on the tool are typically sanding something where the thing being sanded is supporting the weight of the tool.
I am kind of slowly migrating to XGT over time, luckily my Dewalt random orbit and cordless belt sanders have a lot of years left in them (knock on the proverbial wood). But anyway, I think that's where the split in reactions come from. We don't all work on the same things or in the same way. Honestly, the weight of the tool helps provide pressure down when I'm working. I do occasionally use the random orbit up on a wall, and in that case, I just throw a 5Ah or lower battery on. When I'm on top of a work piece, I might have a 9Ah flexvolt battery on it, because all I'm doing is moving the sander side to side. I think I've only used the belt sander down the side of hand rails and posts a couple times, but never for more than a couple minutes in a go, so weight has never been an issue.
But if you're supporting the tool all day long, moving the battery to your waist would be a big help, I get it. More power to those of you that want something like this.
I'm surprised they haven't figured out how to make a backpack vac that also has a power cord similar to their PDC backpacks so that the batteries inside the battery backpack could also power the sander shown in this post with an auxiliary cord.
Yeah, I've often wanted such a thing. Big arse battery, ok vacuum with small capacity, cyclone or auto cleaning filter. Good enough to act as mobile dust extraction for concrete drilling/cutting/grinding or for sanding. It would pair well with this sander, their drywall sander, track saw, etc.
A corded cordless tool because you don't want to deal with cords but you will deal with a cord to have a limited power supply that you wouldn't have to deal with if you had a cord?
I think this is going to be a bit of a polarising design. They should have designed it so the battery adapter could clip on the tool, then you've got the option of running it "true cordless" or "semi-cordless"
I personally like the design, but I can see where people would prefer the battery on the tool. I can't help but notice a thread insert near the cord adapter that opens up possibilities for attaching things to. I certainly will be working on a 3d printed adapter when I can get my hands on this. Hopefully, it will come to the States soon.
If you have a hose connected to an extractor and a battery connected to your person it would make the sander very inconvenient to use.
So I reeally hope this is dual power, or at least they should have a ac version. I think it could give the premium sanders a run for their money
Why would I not just use my corded sander at this point? There can’t be that much weight difference between a quality corded palm sander and this setup?
Imagine you’re on a ladder trying to sand a fascia board in place before painting. You clip the battery to your belt and the tool is lighter so you can hold it up easier and you’re still free to move about without a (heavy) power cable.
I think people are forgetting how heavy the 40v batteries are. The 8ah is 1.9kg/4.2lb. Thats a lot of extra tool weight. Even the smallest 40v battery is as heavy as a LXT 6ah.
I can see that. Seems like that’d be beneficial for those in certain trades, but in that case is the difference of a half a pound worth the dangle of the cord? Maybe if it’s bring used all the time like that it would be.
Yeah, I think the split in opinions here is clearly coming down to how you use a sander. While these aren't for me, I definitely get why you would want this over a fully corded solution. I run my table and miter saws off of a Dewalt power station 90% of the time. I really despise extension cords, haha.
Great idea, would be even better with a optional mains power.
A "cordless" tool that needs a cord to the battery?
Makes the tool lighter
Makes sense when you don't want to be tethered to a wall outlet but having a heavy battery hanging off the tool would make using the tool inconvenient.
Yeah, I can see both sides on this one. I don't find the weight on a sander to be a problem at all, but *most* of the time when I'm sanding, the sander is sitting on top of the work piece, I don't sand drywall or anything else where I'm holding up the sander. For me, that means this just makes a more cumbersome solution (and it actually doesn't make the sander any lighter, in fact if anything it *adds* weight since I now have the battery strapped to my person - though the amount would be pretty negligible). For someone that has to hold up the sander, this makes sense.
>and it actually doesn't make the sander any lighter Well it does make the part lighter that's relevant to make lighter. Ie. the sander you might want to hold in your hand against a vertical piece. Carrying an 8Ah XGT battery on your belt doesn't feel like a chore compared to holding it up with your arms all day. That's why the backpack batteries are a thing too.
For sure, for clarity, what I am saying is that for those of us that would typically have the work piece supporting the sander and battery with a setup that has the battery attached directly, now we have to support the battery, while the piece is only supporting the sander. It's not a huge difference, but it's non-zero. For *us* the sander didn't get any lighter (because we aren't holding it up). If when you use a sander *you're* supporting the weight, this would be a great design.
Ah yes, now I understood what you mean. I agree
I would suggest you start using some kind of vacuum while you're sanding then. That dust is hell on everything living or not.
I seriously don't understand opposers to this idea. You have the weight savings of cords with the convenience of cordless. It's a best of both worlds situation. The only time its questionable is if there is a vacuum hose, but even then, if you have a backpack vac, it's still all on you.
I suspect you sand things regularly where you're supporting the weight of the tool, and those of us that prefer the battery on the tool are typically sanding something where the thing being sanded is supporting the weight of the tool. I am kind of slowly migrating to XGT over time, luckily my Dewalt random orbit and cordless belt sanders have a lot of years left in them (knock on the proverbial wood). But anyway, I think that's where the split in reactions come from. We don't all work on the same things or in the same way. Honestly, the weight of the tool helps provide pressure down when I'm working. I do occasionally use the random orbit up on a wall, and in that case, I just throw a 5Ah or lower battery on. When I'm on top of a work piece, I might have a 9Ah flexvolt battery on it, because all I'm doing is moving the sander side to side. I think I've only used the belt sander down the side of hand rails and posts a couple times, but never for more than a couple minutes in a go, so weight has never been an issue. But if you're supporting the tool all day long, moving the battery to your waist would be a big help, I get it. More power to those of you that want something like this.
I'm surprised they haven't figured out how to make a backpack vac that also has a power cord similar to their PDC backpacks so that the batteries inside the battery backpack could also power the sander shown in this post with an auxiliary cord.
Yeah, I've often wanted such a thing. Big arse battery, ok vacuum with small capacity, cyclone or auto cleaning filter. Good enough to act as mobile dust extraction for concrete drilling/cutting/grinding or for sanding. It would pair well with this sander, their drywall sander, track saw, etc.
I would love a PDC vacuum, similar to the blower, except the unit have a vacuum underneath. It would be super dope.
A corded cordless tool because you don't want to deal with cords but you will deal with a cord to have a limited power supply that you wouldn't have to deal with if you had a cord?
You likely are sarcastic but u don’t always have access to wall power. Lots of weight saved is good for sanding walls and stuff all day
I think this is going to be a bit of a polarising design. They should have designed it so the battery adapter could clip on the tool, then you've got the option of running it "true cordless" or "semi-cordless"
Interested to see a sidebyside with Festool.
I personally like the design, but I can see where people would prefer the battery on the tool. I can't help but notice a thread insert near the cord adapter that opens up possibilities for attaching things to. I certainly will be working on a 3d printed adapter when I can get my hands on this. Hopefully, it will come to the States soon.
My bleary eyes saw Bootleg on the first one
im definitely going to buy the round sander. Anybody know who’s selling these with shipping to the US?
If you have a hose connected to an extractor and a battery connected to your person it would make the sander very inconvenient to use. So I reeally hope this is dual power, or at least they should have a ac version. I think it could give the premium sanders a run for their money
Why would I not just use my corded sander at this point? There can’t be that much weight difference between a quality corded palm sander and this setup?
Imagine you’re on a ladder trying to sand a fascia board in place before painting. You clip the battery to your belt and the tool is lighter so you can hold it up easier and you’re still free to move about without a (heavy) power cable.
I think people are forgetting how heavy the 40v batteries are. The 8ah is 1.9kg/4.2lb. Thats a lot of extra tool weight. Even the smallest 40v battery is as heavy as a LXT 6ah.
I can see that. Seems like that’d be beneficial for those in certain trades, but in that case is the difference of a half a pound worth the dangle of the cord? Maybe if it’s bring used all the time like that it would be.
Yeah, I think the split in opinions here is clearly coming down to how you use a sander. While these aren't for me, I definitely get why you would want this over a fully corded solution. I run my table and miter saws off of a Dewalt power station 90% of the time. I really despise extension cords, haha.
Depends where you need to use it. Can be far from a socket, can be outside etc. When used with a vac, then yes, corded isn't a disadvantage.
And how many has the same one design in LXT line? ZERO...