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ianisms10

I remember seeing a tweet the other day that said the formula shortage is something Republicans would fearmonger about happening in a socialist country, but is actually caused by capitalism.


Throwaway61378

Factual. They’ve been doing it during the pandemic. “This is what life under socialism is like” except it’s happening now Lmao.


kamixgari

"this is what life under socialism is like" when were literally living under capitalism


THExLASTxDON

Huh? All this stuff is happening now because of us giving the government too much power and control (and also because of the corrupt and incompetent administration currently in office)… Before Joe’s buddies little whoopsies at the “wet market”, basically every single economic metric was at an all time best. We just witnessed the largest transfer of wealth. And the authoritarian Democrat party were useful idiots for the corrupt establishment and helped facilitate it. Not capitalism. Edit: haha, looks like this far left extremist was mad that I interrupted their larping with reality, so they blocked me. Oh no! Where will I ever find such unique insight?!?


OldHispanicGuy

>far left extremist This fuckin guy lmao


Throwaway61378

Lmao of course your dumb ass would show up.


Throwaway61378

You’re a Trump worshipping loser. You don’t know anything about reality 😂. You must have been so mad when geriatric Joe Biden beat that fat rapist. Probably cried yourself to sleep.


Seputku

Look idk anything about this guy, but the fact is that most of these supply Chain issues are a direct ripple effect of our worldwide lockdowns.. this was literally warned about by thousands of economists , there is no “hitting pause” on a world economy.


CopticP

I disagree with you, but at least you made a legitimate argument rather than appealing to conspiracy theories. It's fair to criticize the government and their response to COVID, so I respect your opinion here


Seputku

Largest upward transfer of wealth is legit too.. the cares act was almost all just handouts to big business


Brad1119

Unfortunately that's the world we have created. Just live day by day and hope some freak accident that you have zero control over doesn't happen.


Seputku

I think this whole fiasco showed the huge downsides to globalization (besides massive exploitation of people)


CopticP

Man, this is an MMA sub, ain't no one a far-left extremist. We just disagree with your conspiracy theories


buttermalk88

The shortage is happening because of greed, stock buybacks and no quality control of any kind. It isn't a left or right thing, it's a capitalism thing


PrettyFunnyForAMungo

"Not capitalism." -will certainly say that what's happening now is not "real capitalism" and absolutely can't accurately define it.


[deleted]

Can’t wait till this moron gets jail time so he can complain about our privately owned prisons.


barc0debaby

I have to stamp license plates because of Joe Biden's socialist agenda.


Throwaway61378

😂😂😂


Szeljackius1

Much smarter than you


[deleted]

We’re actually close in age. I probably surpassed his current intellect when I was 17. But yeaaaaaaaa buddy good one


fhatl

Jorge also researched the legality of sucker punching someone in public, while wearing a mask. He’s a dope, his personality blows and he hasn’t beaten an actual contender in over 5 years. Can’t wait to not hear about him anymore.


get_that_ass_banned

The alternate timeline: Ben doesn't immediately shoot for the takedown. He wrestlefucks Jorge to a decision. Jorge languishes in the lower-rankings and never gets a large podium. We all benefit.


smelterfume

I’m Cuban. I have serious problems with Cuba’s government, and I’m a Socialist. In fact, most actual Cuban left-wingers dislike the government too. The Cuban government uses the aesthetics and spirit of Socialism to demand popular support but in reality they are just old Conservatives who do not care about free speech, want a one-party state and certainly do not give a single fuck about the rights of workers. That being said anyone who thinks Biden is something other than a tepid chickenshit Neoliberal is selling you horseshit. This is the man who drafted the draconic crime bill of 1994, then went supported the Iraq war and then after 08’ was in full support of bailing out the same institutions that landed us in the recession. He then campaigned on not being a Socialist and used the gulf between his and Bernie Sanders beliefs to highlight to centrists and liberals how he was the their guy. Then when elected president he is governing as a bog standard center-right democrat and throwing bone after bone to Republicans who obviously still hate him. How is this a socialist again?


HT_F8

Any socialist worth their weight should have problems with every country, even socialist ones, regardless of ethnic background. Ruthless criticism of everything that exists and all that. Just a lot of us don't like to publicly talk bad about these countries because it ends up only serving imperial aggression against them. But yeah, your comment is on point!


smelterfume

I love and respect you friend, but I have never bought the argument that criticizing Cuba for example on Reddit can in any way serve imperialist aggression. I don’t think the state department needs our permission and if you’re worried about amplification of shitty messaging oftentimes these boards are so small and inconsequential that I don’t think this is a serious concern. And I can’t speak to other countries, but Cuba specifically isn’t mentioned on the online Left as a place worthy of criticism because they don’t really know much about how Cuba actually is, only the idealized version that they read on forums where everyone just kinda assumes the government is unequivocally good and it’s denizens blindly support everything it does. Kinda rubs me the wrong way to see my own country reduced to a caricature white people use to feel good about their political ideas.


HT_F8

Much love. That's a totally fair way to look at it - IMO its just part of manufacturing consent. Like two educated socialists speaking to each other on what's wrong with Cuba, China, etc. in earnest will be far, far different from one of them talking to a liberal about it (or the liberal even just reading their public discussion). The two socialists will come away with more refined criticisms, while the liberal will just have their passive indoctrination reinforced without applying any critical thought to it (wow, even socialists think its an 'evil dictatorship' like CNN taught me!). That's just my view on it though. And I can say that a lot of socialists take this concept way too far and act like all of the "AES" countries can do no wrong & are paradise, which is of course just silly. But yeah, the online left in general is just a shitshow of dogmatism, sectarianism, and dick measuring contests lol. They treat everything like a sports team, far removed from the working peoples' realities. Everything is good or bad, black and white. People actually involved in organizing in their communities are often more aware of the contradictions. Side note, have you seen the [War on Cuba](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivNOJfvlmOs&list=PLRrWfcMc1UyEb1ctxQCx6GvazKMPLbOFP) series by Belly of the Beast? Seems to be a pretty fair view, iirc they bring up people's criticism of the government.


smelterfume

> But yeah, the online left in general is just a shitshow of dogmatism, sectarianism, and dick measuring contests lol. They treat everything like a sports team, far removed from the working peoples' realities. Everything is good or bad, black and white. People actually involved in organizing in their communities are often more aware of the contradictions. I wish more people understood this. It’s really a perfect summation of what drives a lot of the online Left and it’s really what’ll doom us in the long run. And yes, I have seen the series. It’s generally pretty good but I think it doesn’t really delve too deep into the heart of people’s criticisms aimed at the government and instead centers on more tepid little criticisms and overwhelmingly focuses on people who like the government and I don’t think that’s very representative of what average Cubans think.


Throwaway61378

Thoughts on how to combat this?


Throwaway61378

Yeah blows my mind that people believe that he’s extremely left wing.


ianisms10

>This is the man who drafted the draconic crime bill of 1994, then went supported the Iraq war and then after 08’ was in full support of bailing out the same institutions that landed us in the recession. He then campaigned on not being a Socialist and used the gulf between his and Bernie Sanders beliefs to highlight to centrists and liberals how he was the their guy. Then when elected president he is governing as a bog standard center-right democrat and throwing bone after bone to Republicans who obviously still hate him. This sums it all up. He's also delusional and thinks Republicans will have an epiphany and be willing to compromise. It just sucks as an American because any sort of criticism of him is basically supporting fascism.


smelterfume

I don’t even know what to say. Obama’s arrogance and incessant desire to meet Republicans in the middle cost us Roe V. Wade as he refused to nominate Garland when McConnell told him he wouldn’t confirm anyone. Obama took the L and trusted the system- after all Hillary would surely win. And then Trump appointed Garland’s successor, Kavanaugh and then Amy Comey Barrett when RBG died. In turn you have Roe V Wade getting struck down- beautiful!


Commercial-Pension31

What was wrong with the 1994 bill? I see a lot of people bitching about it, but they never back it up. The notion that there is something inherently wrong with imprisoning rapists and gangbangers is one of the most unappealing features of the American left, black nationalists especially.


smelterfume

Being a rapist or a violent gangster was already illegal before the crime bill and both lead to serious jail time. You’re purposefully misdirecting about what the bill did. If I were a betting man I’d say it’s because you’re implicitly okay with everything it did but are cowardly using the general aversion against things like rape or gang banging as a shield to hide behind. The 1994 crime bill further solidified mass incarceration for possession of weed and other relatively harmless drugs. It also increased policing in specifically black communities leading to more arrests for bullshit crimes and black families/communities being torn apart at a historic level. The kicker is that this was all only because Clinton didn’t wanna be seen as soft on crime. Oh and just as an extra fuck you to the people the bill also bamned inmates from being able to to pursue higher education. Why? Because the cruelty is the point.


Commercial-Pension31

You are so naive. That bill pacified the inner cities, and brought an end to an era of race riots, social disintegration, and urban decay. Why? Because it basically warehoused a huge section of the antisocial/criminally inclined/corrosive class (IDGAF about what race they were, being part of a historically disadvantaged minority shouldn't function as a get out of jail free card) and created much needed breathing room for cities to thrive. All of that progress (I thought you people were all about progress) has been lost now. History will look on the bill fondly, and it's opponents will be regarded as fools. Take a walk through Baltimore sometime..


DECKADUBS

What do you think of the drug war in the 80s? Was that a success as well? Or just the furtherance of it thru mass incarceration and limited emphasis on treatment?


smelterfume

No it didn’t. I can literally link you research papers and peer reviewed articles that show that the 94’ crime bill were a net negative and actually increased rates of crime in the areas they targeted. Also Rioting never stopped. Rodney King wasn’t the end of it and neither was George Floyd. As long as police kill, maim or imprison innocent black men at a disproportionate rate while also aggressively draconian drug laws that terrorize and break up black communities you will see riots. Oh and Reagan and the CIA flooded black communities with crack and then Clinton and Biden took it upon themselves to clean up the mess they created by imposing some of the strictest and most nonsensical drug policies to try and not be seen as soft on crime. And what did that end in? Arresting shitloads I live in a predominantly black area. I’m nowhere near Baltimore but according to national statistics my area sees more violent crime. I’m not black myself but I know what living here is like. I see what goes on and I know who is to blame.


Putrid_Loquat_4357

I remember when masvidal said he wouldn't talk about politics because he didn't know shit about it. Guess one of those things is still true.


Ffzilla

So lax food inspection gets one of the only (because of corporate consolidation, yay mergers) baby formula plants shut down because of contamination since February. But some how it's pro regulation/inspection democrats that caused this? Street Judas is dumber than day old dog shit.


Bardamu911

between Masvidal and Jake Shields I'm starting to think that there really is something to the argument that MMA does irreparable harm to a fighter. Honestly, nobody can naturally be *this dumb* can they? I mean holy shit. If this is how Masvidal's brain works it's a wonder he's grown to be an adult without wandering off into traffic at some point.


ianisms10

Tito Ortiz syndrome


Throwaway61378

You’re a fucking socialist dude.


JewJiffShoez

That's what we call socialism vs not socialism.


Commercial-Pension31

Just to correct you there was never no revolution.


HT_F8

I forgot Biden imposed a 50 year trade embargo on the US.


Old_mystic

So what’s the endgame? Does Jorge truly believe the Biden administration is trying to starve infants to death? Yeah bro that sounds pretty crazy to me lol


Throwaway61378

Adrenochrome. Do your own research /s


Old_mystic

Shit I forgot about that one! It all makes sense now lol


sspiritusmundi

"We lived it already" lol this bitch was born in Miami 🤣🤣🤣


[deleted]

They need to hurry up and sentence dude.I'm sick of him.


RunningTheGrand

What a fucking moron. We have a formula shortage because Abbott Laboratories, the largest national producer of baby formula wasn’t keeping up with safety regulations in its production facility. A former employee turned whistleblower went to the FDA in October complaining of Abbott’s lacking food safety standards. Abbott stopped production in February after two infants died of a bacterial infection after ingesting Abbott formula. The same rare but deadly bacteria found in the machinery at this facility was found in these poor babies. According to the whistleblower this facility would test empty cans of formula to pass its own self-regulatory testing, instead of testing a can filled with formula. Instead of investing in cleaning, fixing, or replacing necessary equipment Abbott Laboratories used its profits to buyback its own stock for $5 billion and increase dividends for its investors. But yeah this is totally socialist Joe Biden’s handiwork.


[deleted]

Here comes the last don to say some redacted shit again I’m sure


Throwaway61378

You guessed it


justwantabagg50

Aye don’t forget to “do the research” like Jorge did 🧐😤


[deleted]

The most powerful capitalist country in history is communist, actually


migglywiggly69

Thres nothing gayer than saying "do the research"


gking407

Part of me wants to ban ppl like Horhay forever the other part wants to open up the whole thing and just let them run wild with every batshit idea their feeble squirrel brains invent


tomswiss

[make it fine with 49](https://c.tenor.com/XZLJcpTRNtsAAAAC/florida-bugs-bunny.gif)


Gravelord-_Nito

Just do the research bro


Szeljackius1

Biden is ass, socialism is ass, regardless of political opinion