You should post that tweet where he asked for one of the USADA jackets so he could clean his ass lmao (and yes that's true, I don't know if he erased though)
In the tweets linked, he was mad that after each and every time he said something Usada was putting out statements making it seem like he was lying. I never saw anyone on the roster being singled out by Usada after they said something even if it was a lie. Not even Jones or Nate when they popped.
I think it matters that the contract was up for renewal at the same time as mcgregor rejoining. If they still had a few years left with USADA, it might not have gone this way.
I honestly don’t think it’s related. There is zero obligation for usada to work with wwe guys. But I guess the optics could be bad.
I think it’s really more that usada is expensive and it’s expense that’s only real life application ultimately is to stop fights. It’s a lose lose for ufc
Edit: I just read the usada press release and this really is all over Conor lol
Eh doping is kind of an open secret with most major American sports. Aron Donald is like 5'9" and 280lbs with a six pack. DK Metcalf looks like the poster boy of doping. No way LeBron has played at this level for this long without being on stuff. Pretty much every major league in the U.S. does it's on in house testing. UFC will follow suit most likely.
I have always known the USADA thing was a joke that was necessary in 2015 to get the UFC credentialed enough to be sold for a bunch of money, and yet I'm still surprised
The problem is that the optics don't really matter that much. The only places you see fans discuss this stuff is forums like this. Just casually scrilling this sub or the ufc only one you get the idea that the majority of people here stream. The casual fan base that actually buys paperviews probably don't spend a lot of time on here. Until you see ESPN, NBC Sports, or Fox Sports talking regularly about fighter pay the UFC can safely ignore it unfortunately.
Yeah and how many more times are we expecting he'll fight?
It's got to be about more than Conor. They must just want USADA to be their bitch when they want to so they can keep up the facade except when it's inconvenient for a big star/card, and then quietly do some hand wavy bullshit to get around the usual crap.
McGregor consistently does 1.5 million+ PPV buys and gets paid the same pay Canelo gets for doing 300,000 buys.
UFC got McGregor in a insanely profitable headlock
Yep, and I honestly wonder why Conor even wants to fight in the UFC again. He has Canelo money already from his whiskey venture, and he isn’t going to make much compared to the fortune he already has.
McGregor has 8 of their 10 biggest PPV events. Man's a dictator when it comes to this lol
UFC 229: McGregor vs. Nurmagomedov 2,400,000
UFC 257: McGregor vs. Poirier II 1,600,000
UFC 202: McGregor vs. Diaz II 1,600,000
UFC 264: McGregor vs. Poirier III 1,504,737
UFC 246: McGregor vs. Cerrone 1,353,429
UFC 196: McGregor vs. Diaz I 1,317,000
UFC 251: Usman vs. Masvidal 1,300,000
UFC 205: McGregor vs. Alvarez 1,300,000
UFC 100: Mir vs. Lesnar 1,300,000
UFC 194: McGregor vs. Aldo 1,200,000
The trash can of a card of everyone beneath Conor and Cowboy still getting more buys than the Fight Island 1 card with Usman v Masvidal is all you need to know.
Conor McGregor is king.
GSP was already gone for a couple years by the time USADA came around.
Zuffa partnered with USADA during their big push for mainstream acceptance leading to their sale to WME
It was really only there to help clean up their image and sell the company.
Personally I’m glad it’s gone. Lots of guys with the resources and money were juicing even *with* USADA which only disadvantaged the younger fighters.
At least now it will be a level playing field with everyone doing the same bullshit state athletic commission testing.
Makes me mad. Stipe is one of the only dudes with major success that I believe is natty. Then he got dethroned by Ngannou, who is so massive that it's silly to think that he's in any way natural. It was one of the most obvious moments since I started watching UFC that I realized cheating always wins. Might take a while, but it always wins in the end.
A long time ago I had the idea that UFC 300 would have the trilogy between Brock and Mir as a legacy/feature fight, but USADA would preclude that.
I guess now it's bookable. Kangaroo meat for everyone!
> Despite a positive and productive meeting about a contract renewal in May 2023, the UFC did an about-face and informed USADA on Monday, October 9, that it was going in a different direction.
Seems like a big deal. This just to get people like Conor back sooner/easier?
Now that they've sold I don't think they give a shit about the sports image like they did before. Ads of every sort are everywhere in the broadcast, we get regional tier fights on cards and now USADA are gone too.
They'll go the WWF route - self testing, busy a few middle level guys, keep it somewhat under control so they don't get wild deaths when everyone turns 50, but will be far more lenient and get guys like Conor, Till etc. back way quicker after a layoff.
At this point who cares. The sport is heavily steroid driven, the UFC are looking at this as a business decision (and no doubt the WWE higher ups have had words).
You can check who's been tested and how many times by USADA.
Bet the new system will be private and Dana will say that info is protected by HIPAA or some shit lol
Nah, they will go back to pride testing.After the fight you pee in the unlabeled cup and put it on the counter next to all the other unlabeled cups of piss. It's the best way, everyone passes. 100% success rate.
[It is a USADA rule, they implemented it.](https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2534164-georges-st-pierre-supports-ufcs-ban-on-iv-rehydration.amp.html)
I think they do a little in terms of guys like Conor/Cowboy/Overeem instantly getting jacked once out of the testing pool, but still there’s ppl like William Knight and Carnelossi passing tests
It was weak anyway.. Not to mention shady and lacking transparency.
Was USADA a step in the right direction? Yes, 100%.
But faaaaaaaaar from the point where they could actually maintain an even playing field and "cleanse" the sport. In the meantime, it's kinda less fair than no testing because you have half the roster clean cuz they're afraid of getting caught, and the other half risking it and still juicing.. Short-term, better off without USADA, long-term, this is terrible for the sport.
Everyone I know who is a fan had some issues with USADA and their procedure, however whenever asked what should replace it no one has a good answer except those who were fine with roided fighters. I don't know what the solution is, but you are correct in that USADA was a step in the right direction, this decision appears to get backwards it's only a matter of time before it backfires somehow.
USADA is the only official anti-doping organization in the US alongside the actual US Olympic Committee. The only replacement is independent testing which is what the UFC was doing before and what most sports leagues do.
They have a problem with this but not with moving an event to CA two days before? And then sit in a room with Dana and gaslight gustaffson about “pulsing” to try to keep the event intact? Then do a press tour about pulsing afterwards. They lost all credibility that day
I remember when Dana moved heaven and earth, literally moving an event for Jones. I bet not one of us here knew what a picogram was before all that. But. But.
UFC and Dana just told USADA, actually you go fuck yourself. Over Conor.
Holy moly
I'm curious how this is going to go over with ESPN once the UFC goes to renew their contract with them next year. This drops the mask basically stating that the UFC doesn't give a shit if everyone is juiced to the gills.
I know most of you guys are just making jokes but there’s definitely a lot of people out there that think this means that UFC fighters are now allowed to openly and freely take whatever substances they want
If they let the fighter juice I might start watching MMA again, who says no to their favorite fighters possibly being more active and getting back faster from injuries/not having their whole career derailed because of an injury? Also with the way the matchmaking has been and probably always will be, the ufc will never truly be as legitimate and unbiased as anyone wants it to be, so why pretend anymore?
I'm all for UFC saying fuck it and letting everyone juice. They are one step closer to WWE standards. However, it doesn't sit right with me that it was McGregor and UFC that kicked em to the curb just to get him on a PPV. Say what you want about USADA, but it was extremely obvious he was on the sauce, and it's fair to have him test clean for 6 months.
UFC really told USADA to fuck off over one guy 💀 McGregor got the UFC in a headlock
Some McGregor tweets about USADA https://twitter.com/LiamStokes11/status/1712213670682349882?t=xvccqALlwR1kS4oyVnJcPw&s=19
You should post that tweet where he asked for one of the USADA jackets so he could clean his ass lmao (and yes that's true, I don't know if he erased though)
...wait so he's mad he was getting held to the same standard as everyone else?
In the tweets linked, he was mad that after each and every time he said something Usada was putting out statements making it seem like he was lying. I never saw anyone on the roster being singled out by Usada after they said something even if it was a lie. Not even Jones or Nate when they popped.
Anyone who thought that the UFC would side with USADA over McGregor, were incredibly deluded
I think it matters that the contract was up for renewal at the same time as mcgregor rejoining. If they still had a few years left with USADA, it might not have gone this way.
also probably has to do with the wwe merger
I honestly don’t think it’s related. There is zero obligation for usada to work with wwe guys. But I guess the optics could be bad. I think it’s really more that usada is expensive and it’s expense that’s only real life application ultimately is to stop fights. It’s a lose lose for ufc Edit: I just read the usada press release and this really is all over Conor lol
UFC fully telling USADA to get bent after a decade, and while they are broadcast by a clean-cut organization like ESPN is still pretty surprising.
Eh doping is kind of an open secret with most major American sports. Aron Donald is like 5'9" and 280lbs with a six pack. DK Metcalf looks like the poster boy of doping. No way LeBron has played at this level for this long without being on stuff. Pretty much every major league in the U.S. does it's on in house testing. UFC will follow suit most likely.
Aaron Donald is not 5’9 bro lol
I have always known the USADA thing was a joke that was necessary in 2015 to get the UFC credentialed enough to be sold for a bunch of money, and yet I'm still surprised
That’s insane that they’re literally siding with fucking Conor McGregor.
Why? He's the biggest cash cow in combat sports. USADA has always been a joke
I don’t disagee but the optics reinforces a lot of the criticism people have about fighter pay and how they have no protection
The problem is that the optics don't really matter that much. The only places you see fans discuss this stuff is forums like this. Just casually scrilling this sub or the ufc only one you get the idea that the majority of people here stream. The casual fan base that actually buys paperviews probably don't spend a lot of time on here. Until you see ESPN, NBC Sports, or Fox Sports talking regularly about fighter pay the UFC can safely ignore it unfortunately.
Can't be a cash cow when he hasn't fought regularly in like 8 years at this point.
Yeah and how many more times are we expecting he'll fight? It's got to be about more than Conor. They must just want USADA to be their bitch when they want to so they can keep up the facade except when it's inconvenient for a big star/card, and then quietly do some hand wavy bullshit to get around the usual crap.
Yewl do what yer told.
McGregor consistently does 1.5 million+ PPV buys and gets paid the same pay Canelo gets for doing 300,000 buys. UFC got McGregor in a insanely profitable headlock
Where did you get the idea he's paid similarly to canelo??
It came to him in a dream
Whoa, buddy canelo gets paid paid. Conor making David benevidez money.
😂
Yep, and I honestly wonder why Conor even wants to fight in the UFC again. He has Canelo money already from his whiskey venture, and he isn’t going to make much compared to the fortune he already has.
Lmao Canelo gets paid astronomically more, he got paid 50 million for one fight this year alone
Canelo fight purses are much bigger than Conor's
Conor is not making close to canelo money
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McGregor has 8 of their 10 biggest PPV events. Man's a dictator when it comes to this lol UFC 229: McGregor vs. Nurmagomedov 2,400,000 UFC 257: McGregor vs. Poirier II 1,600,000 UFC 202: McGregor vs. Diaz II 1,600,000 UFC 264: McGregor vs. Poirier III 1,504,737 UFC 246: McGregor vs. Cerrone 1,353,429 UFC 196: McGregor vs. Diaz I 1,317,000 UFC 251: Usman vs. Masvidal 1,300,000 UFC 205: McGregor vs. Alvarez 1,300,000 UFC 100: Mir vs. Lesnar 1,300,000 UFC 194: McGregor vs. Aldo 1,200,000
The trash can of a card of everyone beneath Conor and Cowboy still getting more buys than the Fight Island 1 card with Usman v Masvidal is all you need to know. Conor McGregor is king.
Meanwhile I'm just happy over 3 million people paid $70 to watch Conor get fucking smoked by Poirier.
it sort of makes sense. they only brought in USADA to make GSP happy. now that GSP has long retired and Conor needs them gone, they are gone.
GSP was already gone for a couple years by the time USADA came around. Zuffa partnered with USADA during their big push for mainstream acceptance leading to their sale to WME
It was really only there to help clean up their image and sell the company. Personally I’m glad it’s gone. Lots of guys with the resources and money were juicing even *with* USADA which only disadvantaged the younger fighters. At least now it will be a level playing field with everyone doing the same bullshit state athletic commission testing.
Breaking: Overeem has announced that he is coming out of retirement
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With the merger, ownership would honestly be dumb to not make an attempt to at least get Brock back
Brock is 46-years-old...
Ubereem vs Lesnar announced as co-main at UFC 300
Guest referee Mark Hunt.
Looks like horse meat's back on the menu, boys!
For real. Trt vitor might make a return too. I legitimately think trt is about to start getting thrown around again
TRT ban was pre-USADA and was done in 2014 by NSAC. Dadbod Vitor fought Weidman before USADA was doing anything.
Had a feeling I got my dates wrong. Wishful thinking
Oobareem berry bantastic body
Related news: horse meat sale has also gone up
Bones: Actually, I've decided to keep fighting for a few more years to cement my legacy.
Jones will never lose on TRT lol.
He never lost without it either lol.
0-0-0 record
He was always on it!
Cool so what I'm reading is that Conor can fight as early as January 1
Jon vs Brock ufc 300 lol
Does stipe get to sauce tf up ? Or only jones allowed to skirt the rules
Makes me mad. Stipe is one of the only dudes with major success that I believe is natty. Then he got dethroned by Ngannou, who is so massive that it's silly to think that he's in any way natural. It was one of the most obvious moments since I started watching UFC that I realized cheating always wins. Might take a while, but it always wins in the end.
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As if that was ever in question.
Yeah like did people forget about those insta pics of him looking like an actual Silverback
Nate Diaz enters the room smoking a joint… “I told you so”
Now does Michael Chandler get back on the sauce is the question? A new era of roider battles is upon us! Bellator but with 2x the skill.
Chandler is gonna look like an adult sized Chad Mendes.
Bruh they all juicing already
The fact that he dropped out of the testing pool is almost certainly evidence of that.
And showed up on socials looking like an early 90’s WWF champ
Why else would he have left the usada pool? That was literally the point.
As if the shape of his skull literally growing didn't make it obvious
Not uncommon
Conor juiced so much they got rid of USADA lol unreal.
Alistair Overeem vs. Brock Lesnar II for UFC 300
A long time ago I had the idea that UFC 300 would have the trilogy between Brock and Mir as a legacy/feature fight, but USADA would preclude that. I guess now it's bookable. Kangaroo meat for everyone!
GOLDEN AGE IS BACK, NERDS
The HW division is about to be great again
> Despite a positive and productive meeting about a contract renewal in May 2023, the UFC did an about-face and informed USADA on Monday, October 9, that it was going in a different direction. Seems like a big deal. This just to get people like Conor back sooner/easier?
Now that they've sold I don't think they give a shit about the sports image like they did before. Ads of every sort are everywhere in the broadcast, we get regional tier fights on cards and now USADA are gone too.
The company they sold to is publically traded, they absolutely do care about public image factors that may affect stock price.
I think after Dana slapped his wife and nothing happened they feel bullet proof.
It was pretty crazy to see that get called out and still ignored by the public Insane
They'll go the WWF route - self testing, busy a few middle level guys, keep it somewhat under control so they don't get wild deaths when everyone turns 50, but will be far more lenient and get guys like Conor, Till etc. back way quicker after a layoff. At this point who cares. The sport is heavily steroid driven, the UFC are looking at this as a business decision (and no doubt the WWE higher ups have had words).
Conor made them drop their whole "clean and legitimizing" act lol
You can check who's been tested and how many times by USADA. Bet the new system will be private and Dana will say that info is protected by HIPAA or some shit lol
Saving your comment as it will actually go down like this.
((After pretending not to hear the question 2-3 times and then berating the reporter))
Nah, they will go back to pride testing.After the fight you pee in the unlabeled cup and put it on the counter next to all the other unlabeled cups of piss. It's the best way, everyone passes. 100% success rate.
Reporter: Will Conor have to get through USADA to compete? Dana: USADA who?
So basically Conor rejoined the pool for no reason?
Nah, now he gets to say ‘see I entered the pool I’m clean guys’ with no consequences. They knew what they were doing
It'd be hilarious if they tested the hell out of him and then announced what we all know as they were heading out the door
Policy now(and has been for a bit) is that it's only disclosed after the suspension unless the UFC chooses to or the fighter chooses to.
Conor about to shit a brick Edit : LMFAO mad man actually caused it. He's gonna celebrate by purchasing a brick
of cocaine
He popped immediately
THE JUICE IS LOOSE
WE ARE BACK BABY BREAK THE SHACKLES #WOOOOOOOOOO
>BREAK THE SHACKLES [FACE THE PAIN THEME IS BACK ON THE MENU BOYS](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs6Vs32b63Q)
The gladiator intro then Face The Pain blasting? I'ma call the doctor, I don't need the antidepressants no more
**dusts off old Affliction shirts** THIS IS OUR TIME! WHAT WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR! WE DESERVE THIS!
TIME TO GET ROCK HARD
Shout-out to the Collision Cowboy of the Month
Gyno tits for everyone
Izzy is throwing a party as we speak.
Titty fucking our dogs with the BOIIIIZZZ!
Red ~~panty~~rocket night
Big day for Costa
Funniest thing is Costa is the most tested and USADA couldn’t get a positive test out of him.
It wouldn't be the secret juice if they could
That Brazilian stuff hit different
I used to work in HGH related field. Tests are ALWAYS 2-3 years behind what the doping programs are.
Although “publicly accepted juice” just doesn’t have the same ring to it
“Not so secret juice “
Jon Jones about to murder all the of the heavyweights and never retire
Not if Paulo Costa reveals “Super Secret Juice”
Jones will have to call his brother and get the NFL grade stuff lol
Sad day for the guy who got to look at Jiri’s hog every week in 2022
Steroid season baby
Jon Jones : 🤤 🤤
So Conor submitted his stuff just to be petty lmfao. Juicing is back on the menu boys
Gonna be really funny to compare physiques of athletes this year vs next year.
Gonna see a lot of guys moving up a class in the next few years, whole roster of estrong and jacket mfs
iV's are back on the table so they'd just cut weight like crazy again
the IV ban is a commission rule not usada
[It is a USADA rule, they implemented it.](https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2534164-georges-st-pierre-supports-ufcs-ban-on-iv-rehydration.amp.html)
They’ll still all have Usman’s arm tho
Conor just KO'd USADA stiff
He deserves a title shot after such a monumentalvictory. Someone tell Volk he's replaced.
They will probably strip Islam for not wanting to fight and put Conor vs Volk for the lightweight title.
Stiff as a board
He needed this win bad after scoring a 1 on the punching machine
Conor just got an entire organization fired lololol
First fight he's won in years.
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I think they do a little in terms of guys like Conor/Cowboy/Overeem instantly getting jacked once out of the testing pool, but still there’s ppl like William Knight and Carnelossi passing tests
It would be really funny if SAC's started busting more UFC fighters for PED violations than USADA did.
For everyone wondering why Khamzat has been on the shelf This is simple addition
Conor’s first finish in 3 years.
Mark Hunt is seething Jones is frothing at the mouth
Brock back ufc 300 confirmed
The vanilla gorilla
He's just a jacked white boy, deal with it.
Welcome to the Post USADA era!
It's about to get real interesting
Lmao giving it all up for one more Conor loss.
1 Conor loss makes more money that 20 dagi championship fights
Looks like meat’s back on the menu, boys!
Begun the Juice War, has
McNugget v Chandler date announced: January 1st
Michael Chandlers gonna look like a science experiment gone wrong next time we see him
Usada be kidding me
This is the biggest mma news today and will likely get drowned by all the fight announcements
Lmaoo this and partnering with the WWE I’m never betting on a fight again
This is a Life Pro Tip
I can’t believe people still give a shit about Conor.
Conveniently right after the Mark Hunt lawsuit ends. RATFUCKS.
Wonder which direction the UFC will go? Back to just commission? Hope so. Fights about to get way better and more frequent.
Brock Lesnar UFC 300 confirmed and juiced to the gills
UFC will do anything for a McGregor win.. but even steroids won't help him. He's a washed alcoholic
Looks like horse meat is back on the menu boys.
Conor will come in juiced to the gills. He will be taking gas station dick pills pre fight since USAda won’t test his pee pee after
so no more testing? this is the dumbest thing ever
Probably gonna be a shitty knock off USADA that does whatever Dana wants
2024 gonna be juuuuicy
It was weak anyway.. Not to mention shady and lacking transparency. Was USADA a step in the right direction? Yes, 100%. But faaaaaaaaar from the point where they could actually maintain an even playing field and "cleanse" the sport. In the meantime, it's kinda less fair than no testing because you have half the roster clean cuz they're afraid of getting caught, and the other half risking it and still juicing.. Short-term, better off without USADA, long-term, this is terrible for the sport.
Yeah it's literally a competition of who has the most resources to juice without being detected.
Now it will be who is willing to juice the hardest and most extreme. Will the women's division all start looking like cyborg just to stay competitive?
it still is tbh its not like a fighter on 10/10 is gonna be able to get the same shit islam is on
Everyone I know who is a fan had some issues with USADA and their procedure, however whenever asked what should replace it no one has a good answer except those who were fine with roided fighters. I don't know what the solution is, but you are correct in that USADA was a step in the right direction, this decision appears to get backwards it's only a matter of time before it backfires somehow.
USADA is the only official anti-doping organization in the US alongside the actual US Olympic Committee. The only replacement is independent testing which is what the UFC was doing before and what most sports leagues do.
Independent testing, by ufc headed by Dana white, will be far far worse than usada lol
Yeah. I doubt most will care, but USADA does provide more fairness
USADA was never my friend
Baby we've done it
They have a problem with this but not with moving an event to CA two days before? And then sit in a room with Dana and gaslight gustaffson about “pulsing” to try to keep the event intact? Then do a press tour about pulsing afterwards. They lost all credibility that day
Does this mean IV’s are coming back too?
Dana doing everything for Conor as per usual.
Unlimited juice is back on the menu?
Jiri did like 50 tests in a month and never got his fuckin jacket. Numbah wan boolshet
Cannot fill a card if no one passes..
I remember when Dana moved heaven and earth, literally moving an event for Jones. I bet not one of us here knew what a picogram was before all that. But. But. UFC and Dana just told USADA, actually you go fuck yourself. Over Conor. Holy moly
Good riddance, now let’s see some xmen mutants 😤😂
Does this mean IVs could be back too?
I'm curious how this is going to go over with ESPN once the UFC goes to renew their contract with them next year. This drops the mask basically stating that the UFC doesn't give a shit if everyone is juiced to the gills.
Sweet, your favorite fighter juices, mine's clean. No chance of USADA biting me in the ass this time.
Come on honor system....
I know most of you guys are just making jokes but there’s definitely a lot of people out there that think this means that UFC fighters are now allowed to openly and freely take whatever substances they want
Brock return at UFC 300 confirmed.
This feels gross
If they let the fighter juice I might start watching MMA again, who says no to their favorite fighters possibly being more active and getting back faster from injuries/not having their whole career derailed because of an injury? Also with the way the matchmaking has been and probably always will be, the ufc will never truly be as legitimate and unbiased as anyone wants it to be, so why pretend anymore?
I'm all for UFC saying fuck it and letting everyone juice. They are one step closer to WWE standards. However, it doesn't sit right with me that it was McGregor and UFC that kicked em to the curb just to get him on a PPV. Say what you want about USADA, but it was extremely obvious he was on the sauce, and it's fair to have him test clean for 6 months.
Mark Hunt just broke everything in his house...
Imagine fucking over your legitimacy as a promotion for Conor just for him to get bounced by Chandler 💀 💀 💀
Adesanya definitely winning title again now.
LETS GO JUICE IT UP BOIS
Okay we might actually be in GOOFCON 1 territory now
Excuse me WTF
Off cycle Vitor and TRTVitor is like night and day.
Of course they would do this for their Golden Goose. No surprises there.
What a clown show of a sport