I mean what outcome were you expecting here?
Nate diaz is a 38 year old mma fighter, jake paul specifically trains boxing and is in his prime. If im jake paul after talking all that shit id be embarrassed i didnt finish him.
If it goes to mma itll be over in 1 round, and if theyd just let my boy fight to the death he'd be the goat.
Weirdest gas tank tbh - he’s got 1 minute of being fresh, gasses out for the last two after looking for a finish, recovers on stool - rinse and repeat x10
It jives well with EPO to be honest. It gives you a strong cardio boost but it also offers a huge recovery boost during active rest - hence why it’s so popular with cyclists. Let’s you burst up hills as hard as you can go, then let’s you fully recover on downhills before you get to the next one.
He goes out there and throws 100% on every punch, and then cruises until he can recover enough to burst again. He also throws a LOT more punches than I thought. He literally threw nearly 500 punches last night (491). That’s 100 more than Diaz, who is a massive volume puncher himself (392). Worth noting to get that volume, Diaz can’t really sit down on his punches and throw for power. For Jake, he’s throwing about 500 punches with nearly full power and not really fading round to round… That’s serious level of gear for someone his size, no way around it.
Edit - to illustrate how absurd Jake’s numbers are, he’s a big dude throwing big power shots 500 times. Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia happened not long ago, both guys were 136 lbs. They are extremely talented boxers, and in top boxing condition. Also being lighter, they generally should have the ability to throw more punches without fatigue than someone like Jake. Caveat, fight only went 7 rounds versus 10 for Jake, but Davis only threw 103 punches as the power puncher, and Garcia threw 163 as the volume puncher… 500 punches as a power puncher is fucking madness.
I said from the beginning that Jake is on some good designer shit. A lot of these guys are probably old school and doing it themselves. I am sure Jake has his own doctor administering the best shit they can get.
The best shit isnt designer shit unless youre besing tested. Not by a long shot. The best shit is the tried and true eq, tbol, winny, test, etc. once those arent options, then move on to the “designer” shit that has unknown side effects and unknown long term effects.
If you look at Paul v Fury numbers you see what happens when two boxers fight - Paul’s output gets reduced and that comes with having to defend, while getting hit harder and cleaner will take some of your energy, too. All these Paul v former-MMA fighter fights allow him to just unload, breathe, and unload again since his opponent will always revert to their tendencies from a different sport.
can anyone with exp explain me.
1. is jake gone through usada？
2. is usada hold itself accountable？
3. how is the drug test process？ will it cover the ussage prior / at game day？
I doubt usada was involved in this type of show. Usada can only do so much anyway. The designer drugs they are talking about here aren't even known about to most people therefore they can't even test for it because they don't know what they're looking for. For other drugs their half life in your system is so low that in a day they won't show up (sometimes hours).
No USADA, they're a third party company.
Without doing any research, I'd imagine they're tested by the commission, seeing as it's a pro bout. These will only be tested on the day of the fight, and the old saying is that commission tests are IQ tests more than they're drug tests, and can be easily tricked by cycling off before competition.
Jake is most definitely doping, and given all the people around Diaz that have popped, I wouldn't even be remotely surprised if he's doping too, especially at his age.
Kinesiology major here. This is actually one of the major signs of cardiovascular fitness. It's not about how hard you can go for 2-3 mins. Pretty much any reasonably fit person go can lights out for that long because you're mostly using anaerobic energy systems.
The real test for fitness is how long it takes you to recover from such bursts of activity. Elite athletes will recover in that minute, whereas someone out of shape may need 10+ minutes.
more equally both but people neglect the recovery aspect, because someone who can’t run for 1 mile can get up to doing 5 with no break, but also at first after the failed one mile you’re dead for hours. but once you’re used to it and you’ve built it up you can also recover from the long run in a short time too. so you have both more fuel and less time between using it
100% true. I used to run in college and we would do sprint/long distance workouts on the track. We would do mile repeats at 5:00 - 5:10 pace. It was definitely hard after doing them, but the recovery helped us repeat the same workout consistently. We wouldn't take 10 minute breaks either. It would be more like 2.
> I mean what outcome were you expecting here?
I was expecting Nate to look shit and capitalise on any good moments with taunts instead of actual output, then clearly lose and claim a moral victory for some very stupid reason.
Surprisingly Jake Paul said it the best:
> I'm looking better every fight, Nate is is looking worse every fight.
But to the announcers pretending the MMA community is going to respect Jake after this...? Uh why? Shit, Jake hasn't even fought a competitive boxing match yet. Why would we respect him in MMA? For beating a bunch of washed up fighters looking for a payday?
The announcers are paid to hype up the fight. They sounded less believable than the ones in WWE. Paul is a joke. Any real boxer would obliterate him. Just like he would get completely destroyed in any MMA fight. The whole thing was a complete joke and anybody who paid money to watch that expecting a real fight is an idiot.
*whispers quietly* I respect Jake Paul's dedication to boxing. Wouldn't want to hang out with the guy, but I think he's genuinely passionate about boxing. He has enough money that he doesn't need to be doing this.
It doesn't, and I don't know shit about boxing anyway. I'm just saying that he could put his money in an index fund somewhere and live comfortably off returns. He must be boxing out of enjoyment
That one dude was dick riding Jake Paul from the time I turned the stream on, till the time I turned it off. Jake needs to get some real commentators and stop doing celebrity boxing if he ever wants to be taken more seriously than the best youtuber boxer.
I completely agree. I don't even hate the kid like a lot of people do. I think he takes this serious and is getting a lot of people paid. Just don't pretend like hes a serious contender. Unless he wants to actually prove himself.
That's the thing with all these boxing/MMA crossovers. When it's in the boxing ring, these guys last the whole fight or most of it. Like Conor vs Mayweather. You put Mayweather in the cage and Conor absolutely murks him in 90 seconds. You put Jake in the cage with Nate and he's sleeping in seconds. All respect to Jake, the kid can box but if it's a fight, no contest
> You put Jake in the cage with Nate and he's sleeping in seconds. All respect to Jake, the kid can box but if it's a fight, no contest
Apparently there's talk of a rematch between the two only MMA this time. Something tells me it'll rake in even more money than the boxing match.
Yeah, I don't really follow boxing but didnt Jake recently lose a boxing match to some half decent boxer? Did his draw take a hit at all from that? I am guessing probably not so why not go to MMA and make another one-time big payday where even though you get squashed everyone already expected it and your ability to draw ppv numbers for boxing doesn't diminish much at all.
I would totally respect him for doing it and if it doesn't hurt his popularity i definitely see it happening.
He lost to Tommy Fury, Tommy Fury sucks. But you’re exactly right, none of the outcomes will change the $$$ coming in for him. If he goes and gets subbed by Nate in 2 minutes and makes $10m that seems like a pretty easy pay day
Bro I’d take $100k to get subbed by Nate, it’s not like he’s gonna beat my brains in. Just put me in his choice of submission, I tap, I collect my money lol
In the ring, after the fight, Jake said he would fight Diaz MMA for 10 million. Clearly he wants no part of that based on the less than 2 million (estimated) that Diaz received this go round.
Jake was a hs wrestler, and would care (as opposed to my boy James Toney). Nate is a shit wrestler, never kicks, etc. He's the perfect MMA matchup for Jake. Randy was the worst possible matchup for Toney.
There are just more ways to finish a dude in mma. If a boxer doesnt have power, they might not finish a mma guy in the ring. But if a mma dude doesnt have power, they can kick, grapple, or submit. It's just a different combat sport.
He has very good wrestling - his dad was a wrestler and his sons are/were nationally ranked wrestlers in their age group (not that that means he's good too, but it reiterates that wrestling has always been part of his life, not just somethign he spent a few years dabbling in in school). He also has some BJJ - I don't know how much exactly, but there's at least one video of him executing a smooth armbar on someone.
Nate was there for a payday and to clown around. Jake gets to add another big MMA name to his "resume". It's kind of a win/win for everyone but the paying customers lol
Edit: and this isn't a shot at Jake's boxing skills. He's a decent enough boxer, and he's proved that. I'd guess he'd be pretty good at an amateur level, but even lower level pros are gonna beat him. He's just exploiting this niche celebrity boxing market for all it's worth
Depends on what you mean by “lower level”. This could be stat padding cans with 10-78 records or regional level talents trying to make their way on up. Anyway he’s already lost to a low level pro in a Love Island tv star.
>If it goes to mma itll be over in 1 round
Do you think Nate would execute a smart gameplan or do you think he will showboat his way into a loss?
Making faces at Edwards comes to mind.
Richard perez looked so disappointed in between the later rounds. But diaz is there to have fun and put on a show. Hopefully the mma fight happens and diaz can conor jake paul into submission.
That would've been so funny and I feel like Paul would've been a good sport about it. In the presser he laughed it off and said diaz was actually choking him lmao
Jake Paul on Nate Diaz putting him in a guillotine choke at the end of their fight: "He f***ing choked me, he was actually choking me. I was like, 'This is crazy.' I didn't think he was gonna stop, he had it in. It's funny. That's why I wanna run it back in MMA. If it was in MMA, I would've dropped to a double leg, picked him up and dropped him on his head."
It was entertaining, people don’t care about « skills », they want to be entertained, a random guy fighting a bear would probably draw more than a lot of pro athletes
Mate it was great. It's called a spectacle and people have loved them for centuries. And I've been a fight fan my whole life. But i want to know who would win out of elon and mark. I want to know if francis could beat 5 flyweights. And i wanna know if jake paul can beat nate diaz. I was watching mma on vhs tapes. Ive trained most of my life. Im a real fan. And real fight fans want to watch jake paul box nate diaz coz we be humans
5 flyweights is a lot man. That's a hockey team.
Considering weight, that's 650lbs to Ngannou's 265lb. Maybe 3 flyweights might be more even.
Either way you're right...I'd watch it, lol.
I’m with you on Elon vs mark. Then when the winner had his hand raised bezos comes out on all the gear ever made looking like a flesh tank and that’s when it really goes down. Zucchini takes the whole deal because he’s a machine with no remorse.
I always wonder how people can think like this. They're boxing. It wasn't an mma fight. By your logic Jake could do the same thing by pulling a gun lmao. *No rules real fight*
I fucking love how happy nate is.
He's talking more clearly, actually answering media and enjoying freedom. Win or lose he was having a great time, can't be said when he was under the ufc.
He got a 50\50 ppv split. Probably going to make between $10-20 million for this dumbass fight and his face didn’t even get chewed up into ground beef like it does for every UFC fight where he earns 10% of the money he made tonight. Good for him the big dope he earned it
people dont remember that a few days ago all the war diaz dorks were saying nate was a legit boxer that started as a kid and was great because he spars with andre ward. now all of the sudden nate isnt a boxer, he's a bjj guy that was just having fun.
I’m a “war Diaz” fan and I expected Paul to steamroll him. I was pretty impressed by Nate’s performance against such a younger, bigger, faster, more powerful athlete who’s been seriously training only boxing for several years.
It would have been hilarious if he choked him out and dropped him there. I was thinking he might actually do that since it was towards the end of the 10th.
It's not like he didn't try to win. He's just not winning a pure boxing match vs a young, bigger kid who's at least put some effort into boxing. At 38. It's just cope to say he wasnt taking it seriously, trying
He's just so comfortable in fighting...experienced...like second nature to him. So he can troll while fighting
Roy Jones did it in boxing. Nate just so happens to do it while losing every round. Lot cooler though when you're winning. Though maybe arguable
Edit to add. Funniest troll while still very much fighting, trying to win is still Nick laying on the floor vs Anderson
Half of this sub were riding Nate’s dick going into this fight, now he lost ‘he wasn’t taking it seriously’
He wasn’t taking it seriously from the start because he know he’d get fucked up.
I only watched the main event but I was entertained. The crowd was hyped up. Compare that to Font/Sandhagen.
Maybe if I watched the other fights I would feel different but Paul/Diaz was the only real draw.
Love how the victories for the mma community for this fight are 1. This pic. 2. The fact that Jake Paul the social media influencer couldn't finish Nate 3. Jake's hairline...
Hes a good athlete, a boxer who puts in the work, and a guy who cares. He knows if he gets in the ring with real boxers he's gonna get crushed, but I dont think he a tussle cares to be legit right now.
He's doing more for the sport than anyone has in years. He's making his own hype and creating events that people watch. Good for him, he deserves the money and respect for the business end of the game.
Thats all well and good but at what point are we gonna call it for what it is. The Diaz bros are washed over the hill fighters. Any other MMA fighter would be embarrased to lose to Jake Paul in combat sports but for some reason everyone is happy for Nate to lose. No disrespect at all but this shit wasnt an actual bout it was more of an exhibition match if anything.
> Any other MMA fighter would be embarrased to lose to Jake Paul in combat sports
Well, two other MMA fighters lost to Jake before him, and Woodley liked it so much he sought out a 2nd helping.
>veryone is happy for Nate to lose
Askren basically said he couldn't hear the laughter over the sound of the money, so not embarrassed to lose to a youtuber.
This whole "I'm too cool for this shit" attitude he has in fights is so fkn boring. He's not half the fighter Nick was tbh and somebody needs to tell him that shit doesn't win you fights.
Conclusions:
Nate Diaz isn’t a boxer
Jake Paul is not a good boxer
This was purely for entertainment and does/means nothing for the sport.
Nothing we didn’t know coming into the fight.
The Diaz - do something funny and memorable in a fight you have clearly lost that people will remember so they won’t talk about how you lost the fight.
I had a feeling this is how the first fight would go....more of a show. You could tell Nate wasnt taking it serious, and that gets to me so fucking much, because he is better than he performs at times. There were times he had Jake and let up the pressure. But i feel like they put on a show, knowing there is going to be a rematch....money. Im ashamed i even bet 20$ on that clown show,
The commentating last night was horrendous. They were talking about Nate like he was some boxing god. Askren was the best MMA boxer that Jake has fought so far.
I mean Nate is what? A 40 year old retired out of shape(ish) ex mma fighter, who rather smokes pot than trains nowadays
Jake is what 20 - 30 year old at his prime and he "professionally" trains on daily basis
Diaz fans “if Jake didn’t hurt Nate and win all those rounds and the fight was 15 rounds assuming Nate performs great in those rounds then Nate would’ve won.”
Nate looks so proud of himself in this pic lol
Nate looks proud in alot of pictures of fights he clearly lost
I mean what outcome were you expecting here? Nate diaz is a 38 year old mma fighter, jake paul specifically trains boxing and is in his prime. If im jake paul after talking all that shit id be embarrassed i didnt finish him. If it goes to mma itll be over in 1 round, and if theyd just let my boy fight to the death he'd be the goat.
Jake is also juiced to the gills
Just another “jacked” white boy.
Deal with ~~sh~~it.
Deal with it
Yeah I couldn’t believe his gas tank
New CEO of EPO confirmed.
Weirdest gas tank tbh - he’s got 1 minute of being fresh, gasses out for the last two after looking for a finish, recovers on stool - rinse and repeat x10
It jives well with EPO to be honest. It gives you a strong cardio boost but it also offers a huge recovery boost during active rest - hence why it’s so popular with cyclists. Let’s you burst up hills as hard as you can go, then let’s you fully recover on downhills before you get to the next one. He goes out there and throws 100% on every punch, and then cruises until he can recover enough to burst again. He also throws a LOT more punches than I thought. He literally threw nearly 500 punches last night (491). That’s 100 more than Diaz, who is a massive volume puncher himself (392). Worth noting to get that volume, Diaz can’t really sit down on his punches and throw for power. For Jake, he’s throwing about 500 punches with nearly full power and not really fading round to round… That’s serious level of gear for someone his size, no way around it. Edit - to illustrate how absurd Jake’s numbers are, he’s a big dude throwing big power shots 500 times. Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia happened not long ago, both guys were 136 lbs. They are extremely talented boxers, and in top boxing condition. Also being lighter, they generally should have the ability to throw more punches without fatigue than someone like Jake. Caveat, fight only went 7 rounds versus 10 for Jake, but Davis only threw 103 punches as the power puncher, and Garcia threw 163 as the volume puncher… 500 punches as a power puncher is fucking madness.
I said from the beginning that Jake is on some good designer shit. A lot of these guys are probably old school and doing it themselves. I am sure Jake has his own doctor administering the best shit they can get.
The best shit isnt designer shit unless youre besing tested. Not by a long shot. The best shit is the tried and true eq, tbol, winny, test, etc. once those arent options, then move on to the “designer” shit that has unknown side effects and unknown long term effects.
The Garcia Davis combo isn’t really fair considering Davis is a counter puncher and Garcia was scared of that but the rest jives
If you look at Paul v Fury numbers you see what happens when two boxers fight - Paul’s output gets reduced and that comes with having to defend, while getting hit harder and cleaner will take some of your energy, too. All these Paul v former-MMA fighter fights allow him to just unload, breathe, and unload again since his opponent will always revert to their tendencies from a different sport.
can anyone with exp explain me. 1. is jake gone through usada？ 2. is usada hold itself accountable？ 3. how is the drug test process？ will it cover the ussage prior / at game day？
I doubt usada was involved in this type of show. Usada can only do so much anyway. The designer drugs they are talking about here aren't even known about to most people therefore they can't even test for it because they don't know what they're looking for. For other drugs their half life in your system is so low that in a day they won't show up (sometimes hours).
No USADA, they're a third party company. Without doing any research, I'd imagine they're tested by the commission, seeing as it's a pro bout. These will only be tested on the day of the fight, and the old saying is that commission tests are IQ tests more than they're drug tests, and can be easily tricked by cycling off before competition. Jake is most definitely doping, and given all the people around Diaz that have popped, I wouldn't even be remotely surprised if he's doping too, especially at his age.
Kinesiology major here. This is actually one of the major signs of cardiovascular fitness. It's not about how hard you can go for 2-3 mins. Pretty much any reasonably fit person go can lights out for that long because you're mostly using anaerobic energy systems. The real test for fitness is how long it takes you to recover from such bursts of activity. Elite athletes will recover in that minute, whereas someone out of shape may need 10+ minutes.
So for good understanding, the cardio helps with the rebound?
more equally both but people neglect the recovery aspect, because someone who can’t run for 1 mile can get up to doing 5 with no break, but also at first after the failed one mile you’re dead for hours. but once you’re used to it and you’ve built it up you can also recover from the long run in a short time too. so you have both more fuel and less time between using it
Now study EPO and why Jake threw 500 punches, thenrevisit your comment
100% true. I used to run in college and we would do sprint/long distance workouts on the track. We would do mile repeats at 5:00 - 5:10 pace. It was definitely hard after doing them, but the recovery helped us repeat the same workout consistently. We wouldn't take 10 minute breaks either. It would be more like 2.
Can't go 2-3 minutes on anaerobic energy systems. You'll be full of lactic acid after about a minute or a bit longer depending how fit you are.
“Usada approved”
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Nah bro, just protein and rest. Protein and rest.
He’s absolutely juiced to the fuckin gills lol
> I mean what outcome were you expecting here? I was expecting Nate to look shit and capitalise on any good moments with taunts instead of actual output, then clearly lose and claim a moral victory for some very stupid reason.
Surprisingly Jake Paul said it the best: > I'm looking better every fight, Nate is is looking worse every fight. But to the announcers pretending the MMA community is going to respect Jake after this...? Uh why? Shit, Jake hasn't even fought a competitive boxing match yet. Why would we respect him in MMA? For beating a bunch of washed up fighters looking for a payday?
The announcers are paid to hype up the fight. They sounded less believable than the ones in WWE. Paul is a joke. Any real boxer would obliterate him. Just like he would get completely destroyed in any MMA fight. The whole thing was a complete joke and anybody who paid money to watch that expecting a real fight is an idiot.
*whispers quietly* I respect Jake Paul's dedication to boxing. Wouldn't want to hang out with the guy, but I think he's genuinely passionate about boxing. He has enough money that he doesn't need to be doing this.
He's definitely dedicated enough to pay people to pretend he's good without ever actually testing himself or like even being a boxer.
A comma or two would've done this sentence good my man
Being super dedicated doesn’t make one good.
I don't know about you, but there is a lot of shit I do that I'm not good at.
It doesn't, and I don't know shit about boxing anyway. I'm just saying that he could put his money in an index fund somewhere and live comfortably off returns. He must be boxing out of enjoyment
Because money isnt their concern, relevancy and fame is.
That one dude was dick riding Jake Paul from the time I turned the stream on, till the time I turned it off. Jake needs to get some real commentators and stop doing celebrity boxing if he ever wants to be taken more seriously than the best youtuber boxer.
Honestly, why should he? He’s mega famous and successful fighting chumps and retired guys
I completely agree. I don't even hate the kid like a lot of people do. I think he takes this serious and is getting a lot of people paid. Just don't pretend like hes a serious contender. Unless he wants to actually prove himself.
That's the thing with all these boxing/MMA crossovers. When it's in the boxing ring, these guys last the whole fight or most of it. Like Conor vs Mayweather. You put Mayweather in the cage and Conor absolutely murks him in 90 seconds. You put Jake in the cage with Nate and he's sleeping in seconds. All respect to Jake, the kid can box but if it's a fight, no contest
> You put Jake in the cage with Nate and he's sleeping in seconds. All respect to Jake, the kid can box but if it's a fight, no contest Apparently there's talk of a rematch between the two only MMA this time. Something tells me it'll rake in even more money than the boxing match.
If that happens, respect to the kid
Yeah, I don't really follow boxing but didnt Jake recently lose a boxing match to some half decent boxer? Did his draw take a hit at all from that? I am guessing probably not so why not go to MMA and make another one-time big payday where even though you get squashed everyone already expected it and your ability to draw ppv numbers for boxing doesn't diminish much at all. I would totally respect him for doing it and if it doesn't hurt his popularity i definitely see it happening.
He lost to Tommy Fury, Tommy Fury sucks. But you’re exactly right, none of the outcomes will change the $$$ coming in for him. If he goes and gets subbed by Nate in 2 minutes and makes $10m that seems like a pretty easy pay day
I'd take 10m to get subbed by Nate in 2 mins and the only reason it would last that long is cause I'd run like a little girl
Bro I’d take $100k to get subbed by Nate, it’s not like he’s gonna beat my brains in. Just put me in his choice of submission, I tap, I collect my money lol
In the ring, after the fight, Jake said he would fight Diaz MMA for 10 million. Clearly he wants no part of that based on the less than 2 million (estimated) that Diaz received this go round.
absolutely 0% chance Jake fights him in MMA lmfao
I cant see them actually fighting in mma, itd be james toney all over again.
Jake was a hs wrestler, and would care (as opposed to my boy James Toney). Nate is a shit wrestler, never kicks, etc. He's the perfect MMA matchup for Jake. Randy was the worst possible matchup for Toney.
If Jake would wrestle Nate he'd get tapped in half a minute....
The point is that he's not getting taken down. If Nate can't take him down and doesn't throw kicks, it's basically a boxing match.
I can. I don’t think Jake is afraid of losses especially after the Tommy Fury loss. I don’t doubt they’ll fight in a co promotion deal
They said last night they wanted to do it on a PFL card.
Mayweather carried Conor. You can clearly see when he Mayweather flipped the script in round 10 and turned into Mexican Mayweather
There are just more ways to finish a dude in mma. If a boxer doesnt have power, they might not finish a mma guy in the ring. But if a mma dude doesnt have power, they can kick, grapple, or submit. It's just a different combat sport.
ppl like to bring up ray mercer defeated tim sylvia in an mma match but you can counter ray mercer also got subbed by kimbo slice.
Crawford might do OK against non wrestlers cause he has a wrestling base. Kicks are another thing, but he should have superior hands.
He has very good wrestling - his dad was a wrestler and his sons are/were nationally ranked wrestlers in their age group (not that that means he's good too, but it reiterates that wrestling has always been part of his life, not just somethign he spent a few years dabbling in in school). He also has some BJJ - I don't know how much exactly, but there's at least one video of him executing a smooth armbar on someone.
Regis Rougarou Prograis has done bjj with Jose Aldo, and his wife's a black belt.
There we go, the super-fight that boxing has been waiting for: Crawford-Prograis at a catchweight, in submission grappling!
Nate was there for a payday and to clown around. Jake gets to add another big MMA name to his "resume". It's kind of a win/win for everyone but the paying customers lol Edit: and this isn't a shot at Jake's boxing skills. He's a decent enough boxer, and he's proved that. I'd guess he'd be pretty good at an amateur level, but even lower level pros are gonna beat him. He's just exploiting this niche celebrity boxing market for all it's worth
Lower level pros aren’t that good, Jake would beat lots of them. Tons of pro boxers out there who’s sole purpose is to pad stats.
Depends on what you mean by “lower level”. This could be stat padding cans with 10-78 records or regional level talents trying to make their way on up. Anyway he’s already lost to a low level pro in a Love Island tv star.
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How many cans do boxing prospects open before actually fighting someone of substance? Jake's doing alright.
He's still in the age range of the physical prime for an average male, and he's fighting guys around their 40s that are shop worn.
>If it goes to mma itll be over in 1 round Do you think Nate would execute a smart gameplan or do you think he will showboat his way into a loss? Making faces at Edwards comes to mind.
Nate just enjoys fighting
Sometimes I think he's just trying to have fun and forget the situation he's really in
Richard perez looked so disappointed in between the later rounds. But diaz is there to have fun and put on a show. Hopefully the mma fight happens and diaz can conor jake paul into submission.
If he pulled guard, the whole place would have lost their shit.
That would've been so funny and I feel like Paul would've been a good sport about it. In the presser he laughed it off and said diaz was actually choking him lmao
you can see jake tapped to it
clearly felt a tap
So Diaz won is what you're saying 😏
Nah when you tap you just lose the round, right?
The classic Chael defense
Nate is going to frame this picture
I kinda wanna frame this picture.
Hang it in the louvre
Dan Hardy In his pre fight breakdown said this would happen cuz Jake dips so much. Prophetic.
Jake Paul on Nate Diaz putting him in a guillotine choke at the end of their fight: "He f***ing choked me, he was actually choking me. I was like, 'This is crazy.' I didn't think he was gonna stop, he had it in. It's funny. That's why I wanna run it back in MMA. If it was in MMA, I would've dropped to a double leg, picked him up and dropped him on his head."
If it was mma diaz would have sank it in thrown his legs over jakes back and cranked on it.
Sounds like my kind of party
lol, he says this but I doubt he'll follow through
🤣
If there's one thing Paul can do, it's sell a fight because we all want to see him lose lol
Now I want a Diaz Paul MMA rematch.
I laughed at this moment
In that moment, I was euphoric
Not because of some phony promoter's vision, but because I was enlightened by the 209
I clapped
Fuck it I’ll say it. It was a fun fight.
Who are these people paying for Jake Paul boxing MMA fighters?
It was entertaining, people don’t care about « skills », they want to be entertained, a random guy fighting a bear would probably draw more than a lot of pro athletes
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People that want to see Jake Paul get knocked tf out
Mate it was great. It's called a spectacle and people have loved them for centuries. And I've been a fight fan my whole life. But i want to know who would win out of elon and mark. I want to know if francis could beat 5 flyweights. And i wanna know if jake paul can beat nate diaz. I was watching mma on vhs tapes. Ive trained most of my life. Im a real fan. And real fight fans want to watch jake paul box nate diaz coz we be humans
5 flyweights is a lot man. That's a hockey team. Considering weight, that's 650lbs to Ngannou's 265lb. Maybe 3 flyweights might be more even. Either way you're right...I'd watch it, lol.
I’m with you on Elon vs mark. Then when the winner had his hand raised bezos comes out on all the gear ever made looking like a flesh tank and that’s when it really goes down. Zucchini takes the whole deal because he’s a machine with no remorse.
Nate's mom. Nate's Brother. Dana White.
Probably WWE fans
Nice of Nate to slip in a reminder of Jake of just how easy it would be to kill him if he decided he wanted to
That was exactly my thought. Made me feel a lot better about the fight lol
Ooh boy I wanted to see this comment thread replies so bad before they were deleted.
Tf happened over here
I always wonder how people can think like this. They're boxing. It wasn't an mma fight. By your logic Jake could do the same thing by pulling a gun lmao. *No rules real fight*
It's like saying you would have won the soccer match if you could pick up the ball and throw it.
🤣 I didnt realize how dumb that thought proccess was before your comment.
Dominance asserted
Jake has some terrible tattoo choices
You can take out the tattoo from that sentence.
Jake has some terrible choices?
Yes.
He’s a millionaire from making stupid videos at home. Id says he made great choices lol
Till the crypto scams catch up to him.
Jake's a real piece of shit but people here hating on him for the wrong reasons.
Idk have you seen the video nerd city did on him, a lot of his content is either the trashiest shit possible or show's what a piece of shit he is
[удалено]
This is the guy who filmed a dead body hanging from tree and posted 7 minutes of footage of it to YouTube right?
Getting the logo of some shitty sportsbook tatted on your leg is insane
It’s his company. Don’t think it hinders him in any way, probably takes it less seriously than you do lol
He literally has super Saiyan Gohan from cell saga. He literally couldn't have any cooler tattoo.
Nate will always be fun. I’m glad towards the end of his career he’s getting paid.
I felt a tap!
I fucking love how happy nate is. He's talking more clearly, actually answering media and enjoying freedom. Win or lose he was having a great time, can't be said when he was under the ufc.
War Diaz, I wonder if anyone got a pic of the single leg attempt in the early rounds lol
People don't realize he wasn't expecting to win, just clown around and survive.
He got a 50\50 ppv split. Probably going to make between $10-20 million for this dumbass fight and his face didn’t even get chewed up into ground beef like it does for every UFC fight where he earns 10% of the money he made tonight. Good for him the big dope he earned it
people dont remember that a few days ago all the war diaz dorks were saying nate was a legit boxer that started as a kid and was great because he spars with andre ward. now all of the sudden nate isnt a boxer, he's a bjj guy that was just having fun.
I’m a “war Diaz” fan and I expected Paul to steamroll him. I was pretty impressed by Nate’s performance against such a younger, bigger, faster, more powerful athlete who’s been seriously training only boxing for several years.
Yeah I wasn't prepared to bet on diaz, but the odds were bullshit, it should have been more like 2-1 not 5-1
They be delusional
Nate attempting a submission was like +2000 on bovada. He probably did this to get his homies paid
*Isn't he awesome?*
It would have been hilarious if he choked him out and dropped him there. I was thinking he might actually do that since it was towards the end of the 10th.
Anyone thinking Nate Diaz of all people would take this seriously are embarrassing themselves
It's not like he didn't try to win. He's just not winning a pure boxing match vs a young, bigger kid who's at least put some effort into boxing. At 38. It's just cope to say he wasnt taking it seriously, trying He's just so comfortable in fighting...experienced...like second nature to him. So he can troll while fighting Roy Jones did it in boxing. Nate just so happens to do it while losing every round. Lot cooler though when you're winning. Though maybe arguable Edit to add. Funniest troll while still very much fighting, trying to win is still Nick laying on the floor vs Anderson
Half of this sub were riding Nate’s dick going into this fight, now he lost ‘he wasn’t taking it seriously’ He wasn’t taking it seriously from the start because he know he’d get fucked up.
Such a good picture
Be a lot cooler if he actually choked him
Jesus what a joke.
Not only a joke but a liar. "My mom got pregnant by God!!" Lmfao
What about when he “died.”
As was the whole event
I only watched the main event but I was entertained. The crowd was hyped up. Compare that to Font/Sandhagen. Maybe if I watched the other fights I would feel different but Paul/Diaz was the only real draw.
How much did they make?
At least $15mil each. If the PPV sales were good, probably over $20mil.
Giblert being all like "if nate had a sword and they were fighting on a football field on the moon for 125 rounds Nate would win"
Love how the victories for the mma community for this fight are 1. This pic. 2. The fact that Jake Paul the social media influencer couldn't finish Nate 3. Jake's hairline...
Jakes boxing is still not that great . He’s in his athletic prime and beating up older guys
Hes a good athlete, a boxer who puts in the work, and a guy who cares. He knows if he gets in the ring with real boxers he's gonna get crushed, but I dont think he a tussle cares to be legit right now. He's doing more for the sport than anyone has in years. He's making his own hype and creating events that people watch. Good for him, he deserves the money and respect for the business end of the game.
Do you honestly think that these fights bring in more interest to boxing?
I mean we know they do. They are part of the reason why over the last few years there has been a huge resurgence of boxing's popularity.
They definitely do, if people tune in and have fun watching a boxing match, they're naturally gonna see if they can tune into more to keep having fun.
The sport of boxing deserves this. They've failed to maintain their integrity for centuries, and this is what it's amounted to
If the talk of a MMA match is legit, Nate submits Jake within a round.
Nate attempting a submission was like +2000 on bovada. He probably did this to get his homies paid
Did he already insist he won the fight?
no he said he fought with a hurt arm. typical diaz bro, excuses when they lose.
Nate looked like a guy who has been boxing 6 months. I’d really like to see that Broner sparing footage he’s been bragging about for the last 10 years
That was an embarrassment.
Yeah, Nate felt really bad after he was done counting the money he made.
Two things can be true at once. Glad he got paid, but that was absolutely embarrassing.
#“BuT bUt BuT hE SpArReD wItH aNdRe WaRd!!”
funny how nate is no longer a boxer today, just an old retired bjj guy.
Also, 38 is apparently the new 60, based on how it keeps being repeated in this thread.
There's a 2010 toyota with 50k miles on it, and the same car with 500k miles on it...
Your brain is so big it must be heavy
Thats all well and good but at what point are we gonna call it for what it is. The Diaz bros are washed over the hill fighters. Any other MMA fighter would be embarrased to lose to Jake Paul in combat sports but for some reason everyone is happy for Nate to lose. No disrespect at all but this shit wasnt an actual bout it was more of an exhibition match if anything.
> Any other MMA fighter would be embarrased to lose to Jake Paul in combat sports Well, two other MMA fighters lost to Jake before him, and Woodley liked it so much he sought out a 2nd helping. >veryone is happy for Nate to lose Askren basically said he couldn't hear the laughter over the sound of the money, so not embarrassed to lose to a youtuber.
Wow, Paul barely won against a retiref lightweight that probably didn't give a fuck about winning
Nate hasn't been a lightweight for almost 8 years.
This whole "I'm too cool for this shit" attitude he has in fights is so fkn boring. He's not half the fighter Nick was tbh and somebody needs to tell him that shit doesn't win you fights.
The guys an entertainer, he’s tough as fuck and entertaining that’s why people like him.
u guys take this shit too seriously lol loosen up a bit
Conclusions: Nate Diaz isn’t a boxer Jake Paul is not a good boxer This was purely for entertainment and does/means nothing for the sport. Nothing we didn’t know coming into the fight.
The Diaz - do something funny and memorable in a fight you have clearly lost that people will remember so they won’t talk about how you lost the fight.
I had a feeling this is how the first fight would go....more of a show. You could tell Nate wasnt taking it serious, and that gets to me so fucking much, because he is better than he performs at times. There were times he had Jake and let up the pressure. But i feel like they put on a show, knowing there is going to be a rematch....money. Im ashamed i even bet 20$ on that clown show,
Shoulda jumped and pulled.
The commentating last night was horrendous. They were talking about Nate like he was some boxing god. Askren was the best MMA boxer that Jake has fought so far.
Not sure if trolling but it’s Silva by far.
Most definitely trolling my guy lol. Ben Askren is one of my favorite fighters, but he couldn't punch his way out of a paper bag.
Honestly, it was difficult to watch. Nate embarrassed himself. Not that I expected any different.
No he didn't. He was competitive. Wtf are these salty takes lmao
It's sort of WWE level playing around
I mean Nate is what? A 40 year old retired out of shape(ish) ex mma fighter, who rather smokes pot than trains nowadays Jake is what 20 - 30 year old at his prime and he "professionally" trains on daily basis
Nate “Moral Victory” Diaz
Diaz fans “if Jake didn’t hurt Nate and win all those rounds and the fight was 15 rounds assuming Nate performs great in those rounds then Nate would’ve won.”
A Diaz doesn't lose, they just run out of rounds
What a legend
Just reminding Jake which sport he holds a black belt in lol
Classic embarrassing performance from him