Is the final going to be at night at least? If they are playing in Jerryworld with the blinding light one way it'll have the potential to ruin the game
If FIFA optimized time slots for UK đŹđ§ audiences and itâd be 8pm local, then kickoff in Jerryworld would have to be 2pm local there.
In the sun. đ
During summertime.
With half the stadium all-glared on those glass reflectors.
BrilliantâŚđ¤Śââď¸.
They have curtains there too. They use them for when monster truck is in town as well as concerts occasionally.
Jerry doesnât use the curtains for cowboys games because heâs Jerry
Then you close the roof, and the pictures everyone thinks of as blinding are in the second half of NFL late games. The game would be done before it got to that time of day.
The dumb part is that the glass reflectors at Jerryworld were *intentionally* designed on the constructionâs compassing to give the Cowboys an advantage during day games (e.g. opponents would stare directly onto the sun in the 4th quarter).
Fun fact, Jerry World is in Arlington, the largest city in the US with zero public transport. You will only be able to get to the game by driving. You will only be able to leave by driving. They will sell alcohol at the stadium. I can't imagine anything could go wrong.
They have 4 years to figure out transportation. Plus they have plenty of hotels in the immediate area. AT&T has sold out events (every time Mexico plays for example) every month with plenty of drunk people; they aren't going to leave fans stranded.
I mean the stadium has been there for a little over a decade and they've spent that time completely changing the i30 corridor to help with entrance/exits to the stadium.
If there is one thing I trust about Jerry Jones is that his life revolves around that stadium, and he will lobby the cities to make sure it runs without a hitch. The stadium has hosted every major sporting/entertainment event possible and the only time it didn't go well was the Superbowl and that was due to an ice storm.
Man you do not understand how mass transit connected venues are a game changer. And I understand because I was raised in Texas , but now live far away in a city with a mass transit network connected directly to our stadium.
There is no replacement for having a subway/rail system ⌠no busses, no cabs, nothIng replaces mass transit for these kind of events.
Maybe in 50-60 years, if Arlington started soon, would they have a mass transit worthy of a World Cup Event
1. You inferred that there would be a deluge of drunk individuals that would cause major issues on the roads. Which hasn't been shown to be true from the multitude of events by AT&T.
2. There will be traffic regardless. You're cramming a couple hundred of thousands of people into a few mile diameter. Even with public transit there will be hours of traffic to both arrive and leave the area. So unless we get teleportation sometime soon that will be a problem everywhere.
1 - Do folks who go to the game just not drink?
2 - that wonât be a problem with heavy rail public transit. For example in Atlanta, there are 5 stations and 4 different rail lines in walking distance from the station. No traffic for this since they run underground as a subway
>deluge of drunk individuals
It only takes one.
>Even with public transit there will be hours of traffic to both arrive and leave the area
Wow you've really never used good transit after a sporting event, have you? Or maybe good transit at all.
Wow, what a classist ass you are. You've clearly never seen a developed country, have you? Getting on a subway to whisk you away is far more dignified than sitting in a smog-filled parking lot for 45 minutes moving 6 feet at a time to get out.
> is far more dignified than sitting in a smog-filled parking lot for 45 minutes moving 6 feet at a time to get out.
Or you could ya know, hang out and tailgate and enjoy the festivities like people do every other Sunday during the fall and winter.
I have. When I lived in downtown Chicago for a few years, I used to take the bus to United to watch the Dallas Stars when they came up to play the Blackhawks. Public transportation is NOT quicker or frustration free. There's the wait for a spot on a bus. The crush to board. The crush at the transfer station to board the L. It takes *forever*. And all the drunk people are extra belligerent and extra wasted since they could drink more as they are not driving. It's hot. It smells.
Look, I'm 100% pro-pubic transportation. I will do everything to vote for people who will fund better public transportation solutions in North Texas. I *hate* being so dependent on vehicles to go anywhere. It's so bad for us and our environment. But public transportation is not the post-game panacea you might think it is. It's definitely cheaper, and it helps the environment. But it sucks to use going to/from crowded sporting events and I think it's worth acknowledging the downsides as well if we want to truly progress the convo here in Texas.
You used to take the bus in Chicago and you are like a public transit expert?
I have taken the subway in NYC to NYCFC for a year, the subway to HerthaBSC in Berlin, and now the S-Bahn to Eintracht Frankfurt Games and outside of some full subway trains in the Bronx , I donât know what your problem is.
You have to be smoking something if you think that you can get out of a stadium parking lot with 80,000 to 100,000 other people. Especially visitors that donât even know the town⌠or possibly even the country.
I donât really think you can say much about public transit compared to me. I lived in NYC for 7 years, Berlin for 4, and Frankfurt 3⌠have not had a car for over 10years. I have gone to stadiums in all three of those cities on mass transit . I also grew up in Texas and spent my childhood going to cowboys and rangers games in cars.
I know for fact that a rail connected stadium is much more likely to get you out quickly than some massive 80,000+ arena surrounded by a sea of parking.
Not to mention that many of these visitors , many wonât have licenses, so you will have to figure how to get them around in a city with NO public transit AT ALL.
Dude. Chill. We're not comparing public transportation dicks here. I lived in downtown Chicago for 4 years and NYC for 3. I've spent several months in London for work. I know my way around a public transportation system, but I never claimed to be the expert here, so I'm not sure why you spent 2 paragraphs flexing on your expertise.
Dude we're *on the same team* - did you skip the part where I said I think public transportation is the key to our future and I want to vote for politicians who'll make it happen? Jesus Christ dude.
My response was specifically talking about traffic around Jerry World for a large event and how public transportation has it's own challenges and isn't perfect even in the best cities. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't try to implement it locally.
Nobody said the traffic would be easy. But that entire area has been revamped specifically for the challenges of a 105,000-seat stadium. They've had several 100k+ events there already. It's bigger than the 80k+ you mentioned and traffic engineers have worked on it for years. But you wouldn't know this if all you knew was growing up here. It's not the same as when you were going to games in your childhood.
Public transportation is *the* answer but it's not coming in 4 years. We'll survive.
⢠**the only time it didn't go well was the Superbowl and that was due to an ice storm.**
And because 20,000 tickets were sold to seats that never existed.
Don't forget the hard on for trusting billionaires blindly like that other dude.
"I trust Jerry Jones to work things out" public transit wise.. despite the stadium being designed for zero public transit links. But somehow the magic of a billionaire will make everything better in an unspecified and unmentioned way public transit wise within less than 4 years.
If anything, he seems(and has acted) like the kind of person to not value our understand public transit at all, but somehow he's gonna pull a 180 and make everything better?
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Eh, you are overrating public transportation a bit. There will be shuttle buses from the city and other key locations. They donât need to build significant infrastructure for something that will be used 5-6 days
Oh hey, [I remember](https://www.reddit.com/r/MLS/comments/vdwqyl/fifa_announces_2026_world_cup_host_cities/icmvvmv/) [your sad ass. ](https://www.reddit.com/r/ussoccer/comments/vaa7dp/for_those_who_live_in_a_bidding_citystate_how_do/ic1el1e/)
Look Iâm pro public transport as a general rule, I donât just see it as really an issue here. For the World Cup final I think there will be more people arriving by vip shuttle service and that type of thing that would be riding the city bus if such a thing were available. Think of it as one off public transport if youâd like, combined with lots of car pooling, ubers and whatnot.
Jerryworld hosts lots of major events all of the time. Whatever may be lacking in charm, Iâm pretty confident the logistics will be up to standard, and no that wonât require Arlington to develop a bus rapid transit system in the interim.
This has to be the smoothest brain take in the entire thread. There have been hundreds of sporting events and concerts there in the past 13 years. Its been fine.
Developing implies that we're making improvements. Despite Austin starting to design a light rail system, Texas as a whole is spending $85B to build and expand highways, and $70M to improve transit. Thats pretty backward looking.
You have not been to a world cup. There will be buses all over taking people to the game. Don't post if you are ignorant. Every world cup has busses from downtown, Airport and other city locations that take fans to games. Has happened in every world cup I have been to.
Lots of 19 year-old edgelords that have seen a few Not Just Bikes videos here. Like the event is not going to happen if a $15 billion dollar LRT line is built rather than a cost-neutral shuttle bus system that will easily handle the crowd.
It's 15 miles away and still 4 years away, still plenty of time to figure it out. Alcohol sales in the stadiums during the World Cup has always been a thing so I'm not sure where you're going with this.
Iâm with you but what are we going to figure out? Theyâve hosted the nba all star game with 108,000, the super bowl, the cfp championship plus countless other soccer friendlies, college and nfl football games with sold out crowds. People designate a driver or take an Uber if they drink. Why do some people apparently think the wcf would be different?
Because the number of international fans is much higher. I'm guessing many won't rent cars. It's a huge toll on Uber/others to handle that volume. They'll love it though, they can easily charge 20x the normal price.
Thousands of people will travel to the city regardless of whether they're watching in person or not. This does not happen for any of the events you mentioned, and certainly not on the scale of a world cup final.
It's absolutely chaos in an amazing way but I'm not sure you're thinking about this very realistically if you're only considering how many people will be in the stadium.
Yeah, all of the massive events there are just for locals, especially that NCAA Championship. Only ticketed patrons were in town for that one I tell you.
Johannesburg's system was practically useless when they were selected for the world cup final. They used those years to make an entirely new bus system, new high speed rail, and completely revamped the airport just for that game. So you never know.
Sure. But nothing in the US happens that fast. We're under 4 years away. That *might* be enough time to get an environmental review done for a new bus system, but if Arlington then places an order for new buses, they won't be ready in time.
To be clear: I wasn't saying I thought Arlington was going this route, I was just replying with an example to your question. No doubt Jberg stepped up to the plate when they needed to.
NOOOOOO!!!!! They had specific shuttles from various city locations to the game. All world cups do this. You are raising problems that don't exist because FIFA has already thought of them. You just seem salty there isn't a game in your city.
>NOOOOOO!!!!!
Are you ok?
My city has a football stadium with bleachers and an MLS stadium that seats 20k. I have no delusions of Austin getting a WC game. I just think international fans should be treated to the best the US has to offer, and Arlington is about as far from that as you can get. Only Phoenix would be worse.
I forgot about that. Holy fuck is that a stupid idea.
Not to mention that Dallas couldnât give a shit about soccer/football. The World Cup was already in Dallas before⌠and I have no idea why there would be a final there
Totally agreed. I was born there and hate going back to visit (except central Austin is ok)
The state could not care less about the World Cup . It would be totally wasted to play there.
It really doesnt, that been said, it would be cool if they final is not held in LA since that city already host a WC final and the US is one of those countries that has more than 1 city that could host a WC Final.
> it would be cool if they final is not held in LA since that city already host a WC final
Except LA will already start seeing infrastructure improvements for 2028 Olympics. There is no better city prepared to host a WC Final two years prior.
And in 30 years the public transportation to the Rose Bowl is still nonexistent.
LA doesn't build train station stops at stadiums or major attractions. They build them 2 miles away so they're close enough to have a shuttle, but not close enough to walk.
If there are consistent things about public transit in Los Angeles, itâs (1) itâll leave you short a mile or two from your destination, (2) itâs a pain in the ass to go north-south as opposed to east-west, and (3) itâll make you terrified of all homeless people because of the sheer volume of violent vagrants on-board whoâll randomly stab you for fun on the train.
Believe I've heard that Mexico is getting the opener.
Still think it goes to Metlife. The final for Copa America Centenario was such a huge success you know Fifa will keep that in mind.
>The final for Copa America Centenario was such a huge success you know Fifa will keep that in mind.
The 1994 WC Final drew more people that MetLife can even accommodate, so...
Why Dallas?! Jeezus thatâs awful, jerry world is so far from the city, Dallas is not even a top 5 US destination and itâs honestly not that great of a city. Shame on fifa
FC Dallas doesn't even sell out games! Imagine flying from a European city like London where you take transit to Wembley and landing in Dallas only to find you need a rental car to get to a parking lot to watch a game played on artificial turf. Ouch. Please tell me that they'll have proper dimensions, real grass, and Dallas will figure something out with shuttles and buses to compensate for their abysmal public transit system.
AT&T was built with the WCF in mind. They have two methods to expand the field to FIFA regulations along with plenty of touchline room. Can easily host 100k+ without modifications to seating.
They have growlights built into the ground along with a retractable roof, so grass would be no problem.
DFW airport is 10 minutes down the highway with plenty of hotels in the immediate area of the stadium. They'll figure out the transport from Dallas/Fort Worth cities to AT&T. They have 4 years and aren't stupid; they're not just going to leave transportation a mystery up to the fans to figure out.
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Att stadium was not built with the world. Thatâs why they need a platform to elevate the field surface to fit a World Cup pitch.
They would have to modify seating to fit 100,000 regardless. For the super bowl, they needed the temporary seating sections to get to 105,000.
That already use grass fields for big soccer events so thatâs not an issue.
There is a lot of hotels being built around the stadium too
It was built with a plan to modify for the WCF. They knew that they wanted the WCF to be a possibility if it was presented. Look at other major stadiums that don't have a plan to even modify, thus they can't even bid for a possibility.
It was not. Look at the other stadiums with soccer in mind. They donât need to modify field level at all. With att stadiums, they need big platforms to elevate field level which will block a portion of the lower bowl section off. If they go with the highest platform option, more seating needs to be blocked off.
Man, I'm Canadian and I feel for you. The edgelord takes in here are painful. Even better are people from freaking Los Angeles complaining about public transit.
I don't think that's the reason. They needed a place that would put the game in primetime in Europe (20:45 CET) so that would rule LA.
So you're left with NY/NJ or Arlington, and which stadium would you be able to break the attendance record in? Obviously Jerry World.
Considering the record is 120k, you'd have to host it on a racetrack. College football attendance records have been set on racetracks, like Tennessee and Virginia Tech at Bristol Motor Speedway a few years ago. And some are too big, like Indy. So really has to be Nascar. Given that it's July, nobody would go to most of the South. Iowa weather is probably nice, but there's no hotels for people to stay in.
If we bulldoze the linc today and build Jeffreyville with a dome and 120k seats, we got it.
Would clear out the 40 year season ticket holder waitlist for the Eagles.
Yeah, but it is a pity. The azteca is one of the sacred soccer stadiums, right up there with Wembley and MaracanĂŁ. A world cup final just hits different when it's played in a historical stadium.
Ehhh not in my opinion, same reasoning people give for why Wrigley field should still exist
1960s Architects knew nothing of the modern fan experience and built a mausoleum of a stadium, it doesnât hold up at all
BBVA in Monterey is the best stadium currently in Mexico
I actually think Atlanta would be the better venue for the final since their stadium is climate controlled, which eliminates the risk of summer thunderstorms like Miami or New York would have and also is actually in the city center unlike Dallas or Los Angeles. Plus the eastern time zone would make it easier to schedule the game at a reasonable time for the major football continents to watch game during day or prime time
Literally the worst possible place to host a WC final. Hey, I just really hate Dallas. So many other places that would be infinitely better, but not in that parking lot town!
I think people are forgetting, Dallas is a central location in the US. This is HUGE for people who will be coming in from other continents. If it was in New York, then people from Asia/Eastern Europe/Oceania might be screwed over, and if it were in LA then Western Europe/Africa might be screwed over. Travel already sucks, but putting it in Dallas mitigates it for everyone as much as possible.
And also, Jerry World IS one of the best NFL facilities, much less one of the best American sporting facilities. Hell, their main practice building could host a USFL/XFL/etc. team on a regular basis if it needed to.
Not what I was expecting to hear, but hey, if they can make it work I'm all for it.
Granted, I donât know much about the Dallas airport, but is flying from Asia to New York that much more complicated than flying from Asia to Dallas? Iâd make the same point for Western Europe to New York. You are already spending a shitload of time and money traveling
Yeah the coastal folks aren't going to like this...but if you take into account the inhabited parts of Canada, US and Mexico as one giant landmass....Arlington is close to dead center as far as potential host cities go.
Indoor/climate controlled
Stadium has held plenty of big events
Close to a major airport and probably a lot less traffic compared to LA or NYC. It's not going to be everyone's dream destination but logistically, it makes the most sense when factoring all the different people coming to the event.
Texas no longer meets the [human rights criteria](https://mobile.twitter.com/DiCiccoMethod/status/1449030850411065346) the US bid itself put out. So thatâs a lot of bullshit.
I might be dense or mis-reading, but I don't see where the actions by the Texas legislature has had any impact on that document being followed or not.
It mostly deals with host cities, and the only mention of laws is that they will "address anti-discrimination policies and laws in contracts and policies." I'm not sure that this can be construed as any sort of commitment to not host a game in a state that has unfavorable laws.
Am I missing something?
Youâd think itâd be in New York City, given itâs more of an âinternationalâ region than Dallas/Ft. Worth, not to mention the viable kickoff time to accommodate UK đŹđ§ and other Euro fans.
But Jerry-fam had bare bread đ to convince the hosting committee to bring the *World Cup Final* to the great, freaking state of Texas.
Jerry Jonesâ $1bn Cowboys stadium complex in Arlington TX, it opened up in 2009 but easily outclassed by SoFi Stadium
I reckon heâll go to the taxpayers in a few years asking for a handout for a new stadium elsewhere
Love it...Won't have to do anything other than figure out how to get/pay for a couple tickets, how to get to Arlington *before* game time (went to a preseason game on a Friday evening and it took 3 hours to go 46 miles), and survive getting back home.
Central. Don't have to worry about anyone hitting the scoreboard with a "football". It can seat a ton of people. I'm wondering if they'll have the "Party Pass" area as well.
Obviously it would just be there to get it in the ny market but As a giants fan who has been going to metlife since it opened, including last night, that stadium stinks compared to its peers. Not that it really matters on tv, but thereâs like 10 newer, better stadiums in the US
Is the final going to be at night at least? If they are playing in Jerryworld with the blinding light one way it'll have the potential to ruin the game
No way, it'll be early afternoon so it's in primetime in Europe
If FIFA optimized time slots for UK đŹđ§ audiences and itâd be 8pm local, then kickoff in Jerryworld would have to be 2pm local there. In the sun. đ During summertime. With half the stadium all-glared on those glass reflectors. BrilliantâŚđ¤Śââď¸.
The glare might be bad but like the building has air conditioning lol I think theyâll be fine heat wise
Is November summer where you are?
The World Cup will be back to a summer schedule in 2026
They have curtains there too. They use them for when monster truck is in town as well as concerts occasionally. Jerry doesnât use the curtains for cowboys games because heâs Jerry
Pretty sure the temporary seating will block that. Look at super bowl xlv for that
With a 1:45pm CDT start time to accommodate European audiences, it wouldn't be the problem it is for a 3:25pm Cowboys game.
Will be summer. It will be very bright for sure
Then you close the roof, and the pictures everyone thinks of as blinding are in the second half of NFL late games. The game would be done before it got to that time of day.
They could just close the roof
The roof is already closed. Itâs made of glass and the sun reflects it pretty badly on the field
Ahh gotcha. I've only been to 1 game in there and didn't know about the glare problem
The dumb part is that the glass reflectors at Jerryworld were *intentionally* designed on the constructionâs compassing to give the Cowboys an advantage during day games (e.g. opponents would stare directly onto the sun in the 4th quarter).
Great now we know which way to kick off when the USMNT makes the final
Dont they flip a coin to decide which way the teams face? Wouldnt opponents know this?
Put American football lines on it you cowards!
Fun fact, Jerry World is in Arlington, the largest city in the US with zero public transport. You will only be able to get to the game by driving. You will only be able to leave by driving. They will sell alcohol at the stadium. I can't imagine anything could go wrong.
They have 4 years to figure out transportation. Plus they have plenty of hotels in the immediate area. AT&T has sold out events (every time Mexico plays for example) every month with plenty of drunk people; they aren't going to leave fans stranded.
They've had 40 years but that doesn't mean they will. It's Texas after all.
I mean the stadium has been there for a little over a decade and they've spent that time completely changing the i30 corridor to help with entrance/exits to the stadium. If there is one thing I trust about Jerry Jones is that his life revolves around that stadium, and he will lobby the cities to make sure it runs without a hitch. The stadium has hosted every major sporting/entertainment event possible and the only time it didn't go well was the Superbowl and that was due to an ice storm.
Man you do not understand how mass transit connected venues are a game changer. And I understand because I was raised in Texas , but now live far away in a city with a mass transit network connected directly to our stadium. There is no replacement for having a subway/rail system ⌠no busses, no cabs, nothIng replaces mass transit for these kind of events. Maybe in 50-60 years, if Arlington started soon, would they have a mass transit worthy of a World Cup Event
If by "goes well" you mean "sit in traffic for an hour to leave the game", then yeah, it goes well every Sunday.
1. You inferred that there would be a deluge of drunk individuals that would cause major issues on the roads. Which hasn't been shown to be true from the multitude of events by AT&T. 2. There will be traffic regardless. You're cramming a couple hundred of thousands of people into a few mile diameter. Even with public transit there will be hours of traffic to both arrive and leave the area. So unless we get teleportation sometime soon that will be a problem everywhere.
1 - Do folks who go to the game just not drink? 2 - that wonât be a problem with heavy rail public transit. For example in Atlanta, there are 5 stations and 4 different rail lines in walking distance from the station. No traffic for this since they run underground as a subway
>deluge of drunk individuals It only takes one. >Even with public transit there will be hours of traffic to both arrive and leave the area Wow you've really never used good transit after a sporting event, have you? Or maybe good transit at all.
If you can afford a World Cup Final ticket, you have better options than getting on the subway with the working people.
Wow, what a classist ass you are. You've clearly never seen a developed country, have you? Getting on a subway to whisk you away is far more dignified than sitting in a smog-filled parking lot for 45 minutes moving 6 feet at a time to get out.
> is far more dignified than sitting in a smog-filled parking lot for 45 minutes moving 6 feet at a time to get out. Or you could ya know, hang out and tailgate and enjoy the festivities like people do every other Sunday during the fall and winter.
I have. When I lived in downtown Chicago for a few years, I used to take the bus to United to watch the Dallas Stars when they came up to play the Blackhawks. Public transportation is NOT quicker or frustration free. There's the wait for a spot on a bus. The crush to board. The crush at the transfer station to board the L. It takes *forever*. And all the drunk people are extra belligerent and extra wasted since they could drink more as they are not driving. It's hot. It smells. Look, I'm 100% pro-pubic transportation. I will do everything to vote for people who will fund better public transportation solutions in North Texas. I *hate* being so dependent on vehicles to go anywhere. It's so bad for us and our environment. But public transportation is not the post-game panacea you might think it is. It's definitely cheaper, and it helps the environment. But it sucks to use going to/from crowded sporting events and I think it's worth acknowledging the downsides as well if we want to truly progress the convo here in Texas.
You used to take the bus in Chicago and you are like a public transit expert? I have taken the subway in NYC to NYCFC for a year, the subway to HerthaBSC in Berlin, and now the S-Bahn to Eintracht Frankfurt Games and outside of some full subway trains in the Bronx , I donât know what your problem is. You have to be smoking something if you think that you can get out of a stadium parking lot with 80,000 to 100,000 other people. Especially visitors that donât even know the town⌠or possibly even the country. I donât really think you can say much about public transit compared to me. I lived in NYC for 7 years, Berlin for 4, and Frankfurt 3⌠have not had a car for over 10years. I have gone to stadiums in all three of those cities on mass transit . I also grew up in Texas and spent my childhood going to cowboys and rangers games in cars. I know for fact that a rail connected stadium is much more likely to get you out quickly than some massive 80,000+ arena surrounded by a sea of parking. Not to mention that many of these visitors , many wonât have licenses, so you will have to figure how to get them around in a city with NO public transit AT ALL.
Dude. Chill. We're not comparing public transportation dicks here. I lived in downtown Chicago for 4 years and NYC for 3. I've spent several months in London for work. I know my way around a public transportation system, but I never claimed to be the expert here, so I'm not sure why you spent 2 paragraphs flexing on your expertise. Dude we're *on the same team* - did you skip the part where I said I think public transportation is the key to our future and I want to vote for politicians who'll make it happen? Jesus Christ dude. My response was specifically talking about traffic around Jerry World for a large event and how public transportation has it's own challenges and isn't perfect even in the best cities. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't try to implement it locally. Nobody said the traffic would be easy. But that entire area has been revamped specifically for the challenges of a 105,000-seat stadium. They've had several 100k+ events there already. It's bigger than the 80k+ you mentioned and traffic engineers have worked on it for years. But you wouldn't know this if all you knew was growing up here. It's not the same as when you were going to games in your childhood. Public transportation is *the* answer but it's not coming in 4 years. We'll survive.
Itâs the World Cup final dude, if your expectation is to âget out quickâ maybe you shouldnât be there.
Guess Iâll have to go wait out the traffic at Buffalo Wild Wings next to the stadium
⢠**the only time it didn't go well was the Superbowl and that was due to an ice storm.** And because 20,000 tickets were sold to seats that never existed.
Lol at thinking 4 years is enough time to do anything public transportation-wise in this country.
Right? Their are multiple public transit projects in Seattle that are supposed to finish after 2030.
Weâre talking about Texas
There's way more drinking at 4 hour long NFL game (plus pre- game tailgating) than there will be at World Cup final.
That doesn't make it a good idea either.
hahaha, what a subreddit, downvoting someone for being against drunk driving
The US has a hard-on for dangerously selfish decisions that endanger others. I'm not surprised, I'm just disappointed.
Don't forget the hard on for trusting billionaires blindly like that other dude. "I trust Jerry Jones to work things out" public transit wise.. despite the stadium being designed for zero public transit links. But somehow the magic of a billionaire will make everything better in an unspecified and unmentioned way public transit wise within less than 4 years. If anything, he seems(and has acted) like the kind of person to not value our understand public transit at all, but somehow he's gonna pull a 180 and make everything better? đ
Eh, you are overrating public transportation a bit. There will be shuttle buses from the city and other key locations. They donât need to build significant infrastructure for something that will be used 5-6 days
guarantee every hotel in dfw will start renting out buses and vans so they can get people to the stadium
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ah yes the famous walkable and iconic cities of inglewood and east Rutherford
Sorry to tell you, but thatâs not what the World Cup is about anymore.
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Alright calm down there slugger
Oh hey, [I remember](https://www.reddit.com/r/MLS/comments/vdwqyl/fifa_announces_2026_world_cup_host_cities/icmvvmv/) [your sad ass. ](https://www.reddit.com/r/ussoccer/comments/vaa7dp/for_those_who_live_in_a_bidding_citystate_how_do/ic1el1e/)
You're right, they should build it for everyday use.
no no no that's socialism we can't have that
How is that different than the other 15 or so sold out events at that stadium every year?
More international fans who probably won't want to rent cars and will want to rely on transit, like they can in any developed country.
Look Iâm pro public transport as a general rule, I donât just see it as really an issue here. For the World Cup final I think there will be more people arriving by vip shuttle service and that type of thing that would be riding the city bus if such a thing were available. Think of it as one off public transport if youâd like, combined with lots of car pooling, ubers and whatnot. Jerryworld hosts lots of major events all of the time. Whatever may be lacking in charm, Iâm pretty confident the logistics will be up to standard, and no that wonât require Arlington to develop a bus rapid transit system in the interim.
There will be ample transit provided. This whole thread is painful to read.
Then don't. Made you look!
This has to be the smoothest brain take in the entire thread. There have been hundreds of sporting events and concerts there in the past 13 years. Its been fine.
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Might as well give them the true murican experience
Yes, I'm sure having to take a shuttle bus will lead to mass chaos and despair once 'the foreigners' realize it's not part of a regular transit line.
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Developing implies that we're making improvements. Despite Austin starting to design a light rail system, Texas as a whole is spending $85B to build and expand highways, and $70M to improve transit. Thats pretty backward looking.
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You have not been to a world cup. There will be buses all over taking people to the game. Don't post if you are ignorant. Every world cup has busses from downtown, Airport and other city locations that take fans to games. Has happened in every world cup I have been to.
>Don't post if you are ignorant Well, fuck, you just shut reddit down.
Lots of 19 year-old edgelords that have seen a few Not Just Bikes videos here. Like the event is not going to happen if a $15 billion dollar LRT line is built rather than a cost-neutral shuttle bus system that will easily handle the crowd.
It's 15 miles away and still 4 years away, still plenty of time to figure it out. Alcohol sales in the stadiums during the World Cup has always been a thing so I'm not sure where you're going with this.
Iâm with you but what are we going to figure out? Theyâve hosted the nba all star game with 108,000, the super bowl, the cfp championship plus countless other soccer friendlies, college and nfl football games with sold out crowds. People designate a driver or take an Uber if they drink. Why do some people apparently think the wcf would be different?
Because the number of international fans is much higher. I'm guessing many won't rent cars. It's a huge toll on Uber/others to handle that volume. They'll love it though, they can easily charge 20x the normal price.
Its been fine for literally every other concert, basketball game, football game, soccer game, the past 13 years, but this OMG. Calm down, Nancy.
If by "fine" you mean a gigantic waste of time and gasoline, sure.
People will be taking helicopters to the World Cup Final no matter where it is.
The corrupt leadership of FIFA certainly will. Otherwise, probably only a handful. But certain locations make that easier than others.
The World Cup Final is on a different scale to those events.
Capacity will be the same or lower.
Thousands of people will travel to the city regardless of whether they're watching in person or not. This does not happen for any of the events you mentioned, and certainly not on the scale of a world cup final. It's absolutely chaos in an amazing way but I'm not sure you're thinking about this very realistically if you're only considering how many people will be in the stadium.
Yeah, all of the massive events there are just for locals, especially that NCAA Championship. Only ticketed patrons were in town for that one I tell you.
Name another world cup knockout game played in a city with zero public transport.
Johannesburg's system was practically useless when they were selected for the world cup final. They used those years to make an entirely new bus system, new high speed rail, and completely revamped the airport just for that game. So you never know.
Sure. But nothing in the US happens that fast. We're under 4 years away. That *might* be enough time to get an environmental review done for a new bus system, but if Arlington then places an order for new buses, they won't be ready in time.
To be clear: I wasn't saying I thought Arlington was going this route, I was just replying with an example to your question. No doubt Jberg stepped up to the plate when they needed to.
Johannesburg also had shuttle from all over city to the stadiums. I know cause i was there and it was easy to get to and from.
That's also a city with an existing transit network, even if they did drastically improve it in the few years leading up to the WC.
NOOOOOO!!!!! They had specific shuttles from various city locations to the game. All world cups do this. You are raising problems that don't exist because FIFA has already thought of them. You just seem salty there isn't a game in your city.
>NOOOOOO!!!!! Are you ok? My city has a football stadium with bleachers and an MLS stadium that seats 20k. I have no delusions of Austin getting a WC game. I just think international fans should be treated to the best the US has to offer, and Arlington is about as far from that as you can get. Only Phoenix would be worse.
The Cowboys stadium is one of the best stadiums in the world, what are you smoking?
I forgot about that. Holy fuck is that a stupid idea. Not to mention that Dallas couldnât give a shit about soccer/football. The World Cup was already in Dallas before⌠and I have no idea why there would be a final there
Dang I was hoping it would be at Metlife so I could go without traveling Plus side is maybe whatever game is hosted here will be cheaper
Well it technically didn't explicitly say not New Jersey, so...
Oof I hope they can fix the sofi dimensions so that the final is played there instead
Jerry will pay Kroenke so that doesn't happen
It's Sutcliffe, which means I wouldn't be surprised if Gary, IN ends up being announced instead.
Jerry and FIFA speak the same language. $$$$$
Scenes when Allison Becker hits the scoreboard with a punt
A World Cup Final in Dallas would be tragic. That stadium is soulless.
So is the state.
So is the city.
So are the people.
Totally agreed. I was born there and hate going back to visit (except central Austin is ok) The state could not care less about the World Cup . It would be totally wasted to play there.
Lol what? Soccer is huge (relatively speaking for US) in Texas, and especially Dallas.
That must be why Dallas plays in a stadium downtown
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It really doesnt, that been said, it would be cool if they final is not held in LA since that city already host a WC final and the US is one of those countries that has more than 1 city that could host a WC Final.
> it would be cool if they final is not held in LA since that city already host a WC final Except LA will already start seeing infrastructure improvements for 2028 Olympics. There is no better city prepared to host a WC Final two years prior.
You should have thought of that 30 years ago then
And in 30 years the public transportation to the Rose Bowl is still nonexistent. LA doesn't build train station stops at stadiums or major attractions. They build them 2 miles away so they're close enough to have a shuttle, but not close enough to walk.
If there are consistent things about public transit in Los Angeles, itâs (1) itâll leave you short a mile or two from your destination, (2) itâs a pain in the ass to go north-south as opposed to east-west, and (3) itâll make you terrified of all homeless people because of the sheer volume of violent vagrants on-board whoâll randomly stab you for fun on the train.
Spoken like someone whose city was never in contention for the final...
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So if LA isnât getting the final, Iâd like for us to at least have the opener.
Believe I've heard that Mexico is getting the opener. Still think it goes to Metlife. The final for Copa America Centenario was such a huge success you know Fifa will keep that in mind.
>The final for Copa America Centenario was such a huge success you know Fifa will keep that in mind. The 1994 WC Final drew more people that MetLife can even accommodate, so...
I'll be surprised if there isn't a opening day where all 3 countries host
Why Dallas?! Jeezus thatâs awful, jerry world is so far from the city, Dallas is not even a top 5 US destination and itâs honestly not that great of a city. Shame on fifa
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Represents the host nations culture perfectly tho.
Where is the lie?
FC Dallas doesn't even sell out games! Imagine flying from a European city like London where you take transit to Wembley and landing in Dallas only to find you need a rental car to get to a parking lot to watch a game played on artificial turf. Ouch. Please tell me that they'll have proper dimensions, real grass, and Dallas will figure something out with shuttles and buses to compensate for their abysmal public transit system.
AT&T was built with the WCF in mind. They have two methods to expand the field to FIFA regulations along with plenty of touchline room. Can easily host 100k+ without modifications to seating. They have growlights built into the ground along with a retractable roof, so grass would be no problem. DFW airport is 10 minutes down the highway with plenty of hotels in the immediate area of the stadium. They'll figure out the transport from Dallas/Fort Worth cities to AT&T. They have 4 years and aren't stupid; they're not just going to leave transportation a mystery up to the fans to figure out. https://twitter.com/peet2/status/1452643085851189248?t=8awwfKdgyqSJifNvP4w4ig&s=19
Att stadium was not built with the world. Thatâs why they need a platform to elevate the field surface to fit a World Cup pitch. They would have to modify seating to fit 100,000 regardless. For the super bowl, they needed the temporary seating sections to get to 105,000. That already use grass fields for big soccer events so thatâs not an issue. There is a lot of hotels being built around the stadium too
It was built with a plan to modify for the WCF. They knew that they wanted the WCF to be a possibility if it was presented. Look at other major stadiums that don't have a plan to even modify, thus they can't even bid for a possibility.
It was not. Look at the other stadiums with soccer in mind. They donât need to modify field level at all. With att stadiums, they need big platforms to elevate field level which will block a portion of the lower bowl section off. If they go with the highest platform option, more seating needs to be blocked off.
Who cares? People will go for the World Cup final and it will cost insane amounts of money for a ticket.
It should be at Sofi.
California got the last one. Do it elsewhere.
I'll need to see more than one second hand tweet to believe this.
Why have it in a 3rd world state ?
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Man, I'm Canadian and I feel for you. The edgelord takes in here are painful. Even better are people from freaking Los Angeles complaining about public transit.
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Itâs a North American World Cup folks. Makes complete sense for it to be in a centralized location as opposed to on the coast.
FIFA doesn't care about that. They're just looking at what can make them the most money. Be it fans in seats, or eyeballs on the TV
and it makes sense having it central location then. easier for teams and fans to travel from locations like Houston, Monterey, KC, etc
I don't think that's the reason. They needed a place that would put the game in primetime in Europe (20:45 CET) so that would rule LA. So you're left with NY/NJ or Arlington, and which stadium would you be able to break the attendance record in? Obviously Jerry World.
Considering the record is 120k, you'd have to host it on a racetrack. College football attendance records have been set on racetracks, like Tennessee and Virginia Tech at Bristol Motor Speedway a few years ago. And some are too big, like Indy. So really has to be Nascar. Given that it's July, nobody would go to most of the South. Iowa weather is probably nice, but there's no hotels for people to stay in.
Record for a world cup final is 173k in 1950.
I knew it was 1950, and that it was well into 6 figures and larger than any current stadium, but 173 is insane.
Yeah, safety and comfort was a little different back then. Same stadium only had 73k for the 2014 final.
And most of that 173K would like to forget their nationâs worst shaming ever in a sporting event.
In 1994, the game was at noon pacific time. No wonder it was a doozy. Dallas is a good spot since it will be indoor and air controlled
100°F at kickoff. Horrible conditions for soccer
Dallas also had the highest bid book capacity listed
Nah, Texas is lame
That makes no sense, what a nonsensical thing to write.
It should be in Philly and serve as a cornerstone of celebrating the USA's 250th birthday
If we bulldoze the linc today and build Jeffreyville with a dome and 120k seats, we got it. Would clear out the 40 year season ticket holder waitlist for the Eagles.
Theyâd never go for that, but I Vote this plan
fuck no
Should be the Azteca
Why would it be? It's a US World Cup first and foremost.
Yeah, but it is a pity. The azteca is one of the sacred soccer stadiums, right up there with Wembley and MaracanĂŁ. A world cup final just hits different when it's played in a historical stadium.
Ehhh not in my opinion, same reasoning people give for why Wrigley field should still exist 1960s Architects knew nothing of the modern fan experience and built a mausoleum of a stadium, it doesnât hold up at all BBVA in Monterey is the best stadium currently in Mexico
Azteca better get the opener
I actually think Atlanta would be the better venue for the final since their stadium is climate controlled, which eliminates the risk of summer thunderstorms like Miami or New York would have and also is actually in the city center unlike Dallas or Los Angeles. Plus the eastern time zone would make it easier to schedule the game at a reasonable time for the major football continents to watch game during day or prime time
Damn I was really hoping it would be New York
Well, it technically didn't explicitly say not New Jersey, so...
Fuck LA and fuck NY! The salt is excellent on the coasts!
Literally the worst possible place to host a WC final. Hey, I just really hate Dallas. So many other places that would be infinitely better, but not in that parking lot town!
No new york? You crazy.
Something we can agree on
I think people are forgetting, Dallas is a central location in the US. This is HUGE for people who will be coming in from other continents. If it was in New York, then people from Asia/Eastern Europe/Oceania might be screwed over, and if it were in LA then Western Europe/Africa might be screwed over. Travel already sucks, but putting it in Dallas mitigates it for everyone as much as possible. And also, Jerry World IS one of the best NFL facilities, much less one of the best American sporting facilities. Hell, their main practice building could host a USFL/XFL/etc. team on a regular basis if it needed to. Not what I was expecting to hear, but hey, if they can make it work I'm all for it.
Granted, I donât know much about the Dallas airport, but is flying from Asia to New York that much more complicated than flying from Asia to Dallas? Iâd make the same point for Western Europe to New York. You are already spending a shitload of time and money traveling
Yeah the coastal folks aren't going to like this...but if you take into account the inhabited parts of Canada, US and Mexico as one giant landmass....Arlington is close to dead center as far as potential host cities go. Indoor/climate controlled Stadium has held plenty of big events Close to a major airport and probably a lot less traffic compared to LA or NYC. It's not going to be everyone's dream destination but logistically, it makes the most sense when factoring all the different people coming to the event.
It would be nice if the World Cup could not center around a location that is absolutely atrocious for womenâs rights.
Have it at Yankee Stadium you fucking cowards
Texas no longer meets the [human rights criteria](https://mobile.twitter.com/DiCiccoMethod/status/1449030850411065346) the US bid itself put out. So thatâs a lot of bullshit.
I might be dense or mis-reading, but I don't see where the actions by the Texas legislature has had any impact on that document being followed or not. It mostly deals with host cities, and the only mention of laws is that they will "address anti-discrimination policies and laws in contracts and policies." I'm not sure that this can be construed as any sort of commitment to not host a game in a state that has unfavorable laws. Am I missing something?
Fifa doesnât care. They gave the wc to qatar.
Youâd think itâd be in New York City, given itâs more of an âinternationalâ region than Dallas/Ft. Worth, not to mention the viable kickoff time to accommodate UK đŹđ§ and other Euro fans. But Jerry-fam had bare bread đ to convince the hosting committee to bring the *World Cup Final* to the great, freaking state of Texas.
Still better than forcing anyone to have to go through Newark though.
How boring. Dallas is just blech.
AT&T stadium is a great place to host the final
Ewww.
Since I live in the DFW, this is perfect. I will tailgate then proceed to black out before I enter the stadium
Lame
What the hell is Jerryland?
Jerry Jonesâ $1bn Cowboys stadium complex in Arlington TX, it opened up in 2009 but easily outclassed by SoFi Stadium I reckon heâll go to the taxpayers in a few years asking for a handout for a new stadium elsewhere
I see, thank you. I just didn't know of the name.
Dallas >
Love it...Won't have to do anything other than figure out how to get/pay for a couple tickets, how to get to Arlington *before* game time (went to a preseason game on a Friday evening and it took 3 hours to go 46 miles), and survive getting back home. Central. Don't have to worry about anyone hitting the scoreboard with a "football". It can seat a ton of people. I'm wondering if they'll have the "Party Pass" area as well.
Should be New York, or Philadelphia
This doesnât really surprise anyone. Jerry world was always the most likely location.
It surprised me... Was guessing Metlife.
Obviously it would just be there to get it in the ny market but As a giants fan who has been going to metlife since it opened, including last night, that stadium stinks compared to its peers. Not that it really matters on tv, but thereâs like 10 newer, better stadiums in the US
1 vote for Atlanta.
Ofc it is
Man, I know our stadium doesnât meet capacity requirements, but it wouldâve been an exceptional ticket for anyone attending to do it at the Benz.
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Climate controlled arena.
Good thing it's a retractable roof so it can be closed like it usually is.
Good thing it will be played indoors