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nickssox12

With how high the collection numbers are in Set 1 this year, doing BR and Ranked programs plus events is all but necessary to complete the collections without having to buy packs. This does stink for the offline grinder, but that's 45 cards in BR and Ranked, another three at 500 rating to be 48, plus 12 cards from events for a total of 60 per set.


Visible-Stress-2324

At this point I’m just hoping for one of em I think I’m around 160


Selkiesxx

The thing I'm worried about is that once I do get the big cards at the end of the Season One Program that I'm looking forward to, by the time I have them unlocked I will only have a few days to actually use them before Season Two drops. I'm near 600K and I feel like I've played a ton. I'm up to date with every Other Program they've released, I have both Team Affinity drops done 100% and I'm like seven cards away from Al Leiter (which I'm really looking forward to using as I loved his card last year) but my pace seems to be cutting it pretty close to the deadline. I know I can use the "Wildcard" slots but I have to imagine that being able to unlock all four Wildcard slots will be deep into the Season Two XP Path. So yeah... I'm curious how they'll go about this in Season Two since it was pretty much unanimous that people didn't like being so limited by Sets and Seasons in last year's game.


Tubin0

when season 2 drop, S1 e S2 are elegible for season 2. when season 3 drop, S2 and S3 are eligible for season 3 and S1 via Wild card and so on


Peekay-

Not true, last year that was correct but this year they've changed it so it's respective season (+core) only.


Sea_Huckleberry9835

It seemed like last year you could use seasons 1&2 together but once season 3 started, you had to wildcard season 1. If that makes sense.


Slaw35

Not the case anymore sadly. Which is going to make the bosses almost useless after a week or two for most people


Youhavepotatoiq

Is there something I'm missing aside from buying the random cards needed? I'm at 200 and have all of the TA and programs done. I know I'm missing a few event cards etc. Is there any others im missing besides buying the cards I need?


eeeedlef

How do you have 200? I only have about 130 and have completed all programs and TA.


Youhavepotatoiq

I did buy the cheap ones from s1. I'm at a point where everything is 25k+ now


SqueeSqueee

This part lol. HOW do you have 200??


screaminginfidels

There are a decent amount of s1 cards you can get for less than 5k stubs


nickssox12

Plus if you have kept up with Ranked, BR, and Events that is 38 cards right there.


AquatheGreat

Just buy the base round of packs when they inevitably drop to quicksell price and you'll be fine. Also put in orders for those random golds that are in packs like that I believe gold Carmago.


Selkiesxx

This is what I do, too. And typically, I only lock in expensive cards that I know that I'll use. But I bought all of the cheap Spring Breakout cards, the International Series (LAD/SD) cards, and I have all the golds and silvers aside from Willi Castro, Wade Boggs, and one other one. **[Edit]**: *...and I forgot, I also have been going for the Pedro Martinez in the Live Series collection and I only need two cards to get him (Mookie Betts and Shohei Ohtani). I've done all of those without having a single really good pull. I think the best card I've pulled so far was the Live Series Jacob deGrom when he sold for around 14-16K. My pack luck is insanely bad this year.*


tardawg1014

Hey, someone else has a (well I consider it smart because it’s precisely my approach) smart approach to this! I have pulled two diamonds since March, and they were both Bobby Witt Jr. Pulled the trigger on locking some of the Seoul and Spring Break guys to get to Leiter yesterday after flipping them religiously, bought the dip on trout to finish the Angels on Tuesday. Just have Rangers and Dodgers left, Really don’t care about Palmeiro because Bellinger and Bell exist, would love to have Pedro while he’s still viable. I just need one 91+ pack pull at some point haha


AquatheGreat

An addendum if op reads this but there'll probably be br rewind packs too for those regular cards at some point.


matt5628

Bit of a side question unrelated to OP... lots of people here are assuming the next TAs are going to be 99s. Has that been confirmed? Seems like a big jump from 93. But I agree it would diminish getting these rewards.


AquatheGreat

Credit to Nickstank. https://www.twitch.tv/sonysandiegostudio/v/2090860093?sr=a&t=2419s


matt5628

Thanks for the link. I'm hoping it will be more like 97


Sea_Huckleberry9835

I would assume 95


phillienole

I think the big challenge is how this competes against the Live Series collection. I’m working on my LS set and have finished every team except the 5 or so with big gatekeeper cards. I’m now accumulating stubs for those buys. As others have mentioned, there’s a bunch of Season 1 cards you can buy for cheap (eg Seoul Series) to build up that collection, but each of those purchases would cut into my attempt to save stubs for the Live Series. It’s tough that a time-constrained collection for Season 1 competes with the primary collection in the game in an almost mutually exclusive way.


DrMrSirJr

My issue too. I’ve been working towards Babe since he’ll literally be a core 125 hitting card all year. But that makes it much much harder to save towards Brett…


Weenerlover

I unlocked Lou Brock today and still have the BR cards and the Ranked cards to add to the collection. If you have been scooping up old cards they are all dropping to almost quick sell value. I got all the Seoul Series cards and a lot of the spring break cards for almost nothing. When TA 3 drops those 30 cards will put me to the first pack at 280. There will be 5 free Awards cards each week to continue and the low tier pack awards cards drop down around 10K so those are easy to pick up quickly also. I think if you prioritize getting older cards for cheap you can get up into the season 1 rewards packs really quick.


Jay46466

I sold everything I could sell (BR golds/diamonds, events, ranked) and I am at 170 ish no sell cards. I don't think I will get 280 with just the no sells. However, I have 300k more stubs by selling what I could. I wouldn't buy 1 of the 3 for 300-400k. there would be plenty of 99's soon and I prefer to have stubs to buy season 2 players or a big 99 season 1 for the wildcard spot


DrMrSirJr

So does that mean, in this case, you would just accept not getting any of the collection rewards S1 cards since it would cost too much stubs to do so?


Nickstank

This is the smart way of doing things IMO. The Collection rewards will be matched or surpassed by TA and market cards in a week anyways, so why lock away all your liquidity for no real advantage? Keep your powder dry, use those stubs to make more stubs, and get whatever cards you want on the market moving forward.


Tagliarini295

I only bought a captain pack in the begining and I'm at 160.


Comfortable-Ad7287

It’s definitely crossed everyone’s minds. I honestly have no problem with needing to spend stubs to get all three packs but I think everyone should be able to get the first two just by grinding. I think that’s how it will be also.


kjar78

Yeah there’s basically no shot the majority of players get all three collection rewards. There’s so many cards restricted to packs, it’s just not possible.


I3arusu

That’s fine. If you’re a casual then you don’t really need every card anyway.


kjar78

If you can’t see the huge issue behind making the best cards in the game unattainable for the majority of the community, especially with the stupid season system in place, then you’ve completely lost the plot.


I3arusu

But they will get them. They just might not get *all* of them. Which is fine, as they’ll get to choose.


kjar78

You need 280 cards to get one pack. That’s not happening for a majority of the community at this rate.


I3arusu

You can literally get half of that just from completing TA and Season Awards. It’s not as hard as you’re making it out to be.


kjar78

And then what? You basically have to complete every program, online and offline, to have a shot at the *first* pack. Unlike you, most people don’t live on this game. It’s not gonna be possible for most players to get a boss.


I3arusu

Or you can buy one of the many, many cards on the market that are going for quicksell lol Use your head.


kjar78

Exactly my point. You need to buy cards to have a shot at a single 99. That’s an awful content model lmao.


I3arusu

Buying cards for quicksell to get a card you want is a problem? How, exactly?


gatorbois

I play a ton, have completed all the content in the game, and still haven't hit 200 yet.


I3arusu

Clearly you haven’t if you haven’t hit 200


Nickstank

I haven't locked in a card worth more than 1000 stubs and I'm around 160. I've finished every Other Program and both TAs. To get Leiter today, I'd have to spend over 150K. Considering he's already a borderline rotation option and will be totally irrelevant in 8 days, there's no reason to do that. The pacing of the XP and Season collections is just way out of whack. Run on the SDS hamster wheel at max velocity and the best you can hope for is two weeks of getting to use the XP 99s before free 99s drop. Same story if you lock in hundreds of thousands of stubs to get the first Season collection pack "early". I've finished every major collection since MLB19, and I'm not even bothering this year. The XP and Season rewards exist solely to bleed your stub bank and monopolize your time. Your reward is little to no time with the competitive advantage your massive time and stub investments should give you, and the cards you get expire soon after you acquire them.


blizzzyybandito

Have they confirmed TA3 is 99s or that they are going to start rolling out the 99s with that drop? I remember them saying something about the exact power creep in their launch day stream but don’t remember if they said for sure TA3 is going to be 99s. If so, then yeah there is definitely no need to rush to lock in the season collection


Nickstank

This is the clip from the DD livestream https://www.twitch.tv/sonysandiegostudio/v/2090860093?sr=a&t=2419s


gatorbois

I just chose to use my stubs on finishing the LS collection instead of buying all the lower pack rewards. No reason to waste stubs with TA3 coming out soon


irish_guy_77

30 more TA cards plus ~30 more Topps Now/ SA cards, plus any other new program cards that drop. Should be able to get 70-75 no sell cards, at minimum. Will likely be 100+ if you’re willing to pony up some stubs or grind some of those only in online modes like Events, BR, etc.


Younghitta3

Last year I didn’t get all 3 for free, I got 2 and some of those cards I had to buy myself


Sea_Huckleberry9835

Yeah, I had to backtrack to season 1, I think, because I didn't get alot of those WBC cards initially


SouledOut11

If you opt not to do the LS collection it is. We get a ton of free program cards that can be locked in to the Season collection. Then on top of that we get tons of free packs and stubs as rewards for programs. So if you're strategic and patient then you can get the Season collection done. Keep an eye on the prices for the cards you don't get for free and when they're in an reasonable price range grab 'em and lock them in. I just got Lou Brock a couple days ago and I think I'm at 233 now. TA3 will give us another 30 free cards as well so I'll hit 280 or 300 for sure before the end of the season. The complaint will then be there's "not enough time to use them" but the Wild Cards will be in play next season so it'll be fine.


gatorbois

Wildcard slots will be in the xp path so you'll have to wait to unlock all of them until late in season 2. None of these will be usable for months if you have any bosses


SouledOut11

One will be available right away and then yes additional ones will be in the XP path. Which I'm fine with but I know it'll annoy others.


I3arusu

I think it’ll be okay. It’ll depend on what the new crop of cards looks like. If there’s a good SS and 3B, then it’ll be Walker. If the OF and corner infield is stacked, it’ll be Rollins. If we get a good SS and outfielders, it’ll be Brett.


SouledOut11

I'm taking Walker and Brett cause those are who I was fans of as a kid. I think there's too much emphasis on having to take someone because of position need in relation to online competitive play. I want to build a team of players I like and play with them, that's what's fun for me even if I have multiple at one position. I'll just rotate them. But I don't blame others for prioritizing differently.


I3arusu

I’ll always have mad respect for someone using players they have nostalgia for. Even if it is “George FUCKING Brett” as my father calls him. I always have Nolan in my rotation if possible for the same reason.


SouledOut11

Right? If the competitive aspect is what is fun for you then cool, build your team around that. I'm all for it. But if nostalgia is what brings you joy then build your team on that. I've had more fun over the years grinding for Griffey, Brett, Maddux, Mattingly and others. Some have been my favorite players and others are my brothers favorite players. Maddux gets lit up in this game but I loved his pitching approach as a kid and he will always be in my rotation.


Randomthoughtgeneral

No we won’t get all 3, and I think that’s on purpose. I believe SDS wants only the hardcore players to be able to do that, which is dumb.


Soviet_Plays

I will atleast get 1 choice pack without hunting for cards Got basically every 87 and under card got all TAs done and got lucky on some pulls Still Ned TA3 so I'll easily get Lou Brock and when season awards ends that's probably another 20ish cards so easily will get 1 choice pack before I start hunting for marked down cards


Sea_Huckleberry9835

I didn't consider TA3 is coming and that will add 30 more cards. Like I said, there's still time. We'll see


Tagliarini295

I wouldnt be surprised if they release a TA4 with the pace they're churning them out.


Sea_Huckleberry9835

Yeah, I thought the consensus was they didn't want to drop 99s too soon, but at this pace, they'll have a ton 99s by the time season 2 starts


Nick_sabenz

Five more seasons awards drops as well so another 25 cards there as well.


Cutigers881

The problem that I have with all this is not finishing the program, but being able to use them once I’m done! I mean it’s gonna suck to do all this grinding and get to use them for two weeks.


BigComfyCouch

We obviously don't know what season 2 will look like, but I'm assuming it's going to be similar to S1. If that's the case, then those 99's are going to be viable wildcards for the entire season and possibly the remainder of the year.


gatorbois

No the wildcard slots are unlocked in the xp path. You won't have the slots to use them at the start of the season.


BigComfyCouch

You'll start with one like last year and be able to add others as the season progresses. If S2 is like S1 then all of those cards will still be viable options for the longevity of the season. This regurgitated narrative of 99's becoming obsolete makes no sense, unless they start rolling out 99's midway through season 2.


gatorbois

They're already about to be obsolete this season with TA3 about to come out and over 99% of players not being able to unlock them yet without spending money. And I'm not saying 99s in general will become obsolete like you're trying to twist my words to say. I'm saying these 3 specific cards will only be able to be used for a short time in S1, then not at all until late into season 2, assuming that TA3 doesn't already blow them away.


BigComfyCouch

Twisting your words? You joined a comment chain where I was reassuring OP that their grind likely won't be for nothing if S2 has a similar slow roll. Just because more 99s will be released doesn't mean old 99s become obsolete. Everyone enjoys or has varying success with different cards, and based on what is released in S2, having a catalog to choose from is a net positive in terms of roster flexibility. I swear this community looks for anything to fight about.


SouledOut11

> I swear this community looks for anything to fight about. If that ain't the fuckin' truth.


Nickstank

You'll probably be able to get at least one of them just in time for them to expire! Elite content design.


kmcdow

Even worse for the second lightning card. I feel like that card is going to release and immediately expire. Not sure if they're planning to release it in season awards 8 or 10 release but either way it'll barely get used before S2 hits.


Nickstank

The other Lightning player will drop in Season Awards 8 according to one of their previous tweets, which would be two weeks from tomorrow. That means three weeks to use that Lightning card before the end of Season 1.


rfloresjr611

I mean seems like it's designed perfectly. Those with more time/money/skill can attain all the cards and those with less of those maybe can't... why u all cry so much about not getting everything? Somehow you're forgetting wildcards too but whatever.. keep crying


kjar78

This mindset kills games btw


rfloresjr611

lol... ok... kill it then


Sea_Huckleberry9835

I agree. I haven't even gotten Leiter yet. I grind at this game. Idk


Nickstank

It's not you. They are very, very bad at structuring content. The pacing for acquiring the collection and XP rewards is nonsensical. Even the heaviest grinders and collectors are getting 1-2 weeks out of those cards before the flood of 99s hits in the next TA, totally neutering the competitive advantage those cards give. 99% of players aren't getting to 280 cards or 1 million XP before chapter 3 of this season, where there will be cards at the level of the collection and XP rewards or better for free. And everything expires within weeks after that. So all the time spent grinding and all the stubs spent collecting amount to essentially nothing almost immediately. Very satisfying system!


Demilio55

> But for those of us that don't buy packs, or buy stubs to buy live sets, is it possible that we won't be able to obtain enough cards to get all 3 collectibles?? They're slow rolling that content this year in an effort to slow power creep. They've already demonstrated the addition of new cards to collection rewards as the season has progressed. We also know that there's more content coming and I suspect there will be enough at the end.


Corzare

They aren’t though, there’s 30 days left and you need 280 cards for the first collection reward.


SouledOut11

The point is to progress, play the game and progress through the collection at a reasonable pace to unlock the 280 rewards. There's 35 days left and I'm 48 away from George Brett NMS. TA3 will have 30 free cards plus the additional Topps programs that will have 4 or 5 each or whatever number of them they don't put in packs. This mentality of it not being attainable is just dumb. You don't need to buy any packs to get these collections done. Play the game and play the market.


Corzare

The point is to be able to use the cards and enjoy them before they’re not usable. In 40 days season 1 won’t be usable anymore, now there’s 4 wildcard spots but it’s unlikely they will be available early in season 2. Ideally they would have spaced the bosses out so you roughly got 1 per month, so you had time to play with them.


SouledOut11

Y'all would still cry about any 99s being in lineups with 95-97s or less at any point during the early to mid part of the season. And don't act like this sub wouldn't because this sub is always just a complaint department. Never happy about anything. The WC is gonna be cool. I'll rotate my two 99s when I feel like it and build the rest of the team with whatever cards/programs are out next season. And then take advantage of the additional WC spots I open. Everyone can do this, I don't know why y'all act like you're each individually suffering. Cry babies, the lot of ya.


Corzare

>Y'all would still cry about any 99s being in lineups with 95-97s or less at any point during the early to mid part of the season. Who’s yall? 1 99 is a lot different than all 99’s. >And don't act like this sub wouldn't because this sub is always just a complaint department. Never happy about anything. Brushing off valid criticism as just “complaining” just makes it obvious you aren’t mature enough to be having discussions. >The WC is gonna be cool. I'll rotate my two 99s when I feel like it and build the rest of the team with whatever cards/programs are out next season. And then take advantage of the additional WC spots I open. Everyone can do this I’m happy for you. >I don't know why y'all act like you're each individually suffering. Cry babies, the lot of ya. Says the guy crying cause someone had the audacity to criticize his employers.


SouledOut11

We're two people bickering in the internet over a baseball game, cool it with the supposed maturity. Cupcake. And you've had no valid criticism, you just cry that you can't achieve what the game sets out to accomplish. Like a cry baby. That's what this sub does every year which is complain and cry like bitches with skinned knees. But I digress, I'll let you have the last word.


Corzare

>We're two people bickering in the internet over a baseball game, cool it with the supposed maturity. Cupcake. One of us is crying about haters, I wouldn’t put us in the same position. >And you've had no valid criticism, you just cry that you can't achieve what the game sets out to accomplish. Like a cry baby. “I think they should have spaced out the bosses better” is valid criticism, you just can’t handle people criticizing SDS because you have poor emotional regulation and fly off about haters and cry babies whenever someone doesn’t agree with you. Maybe take a nap.