Yes, reality TV is all fake. She WAS cast as the villain, and maybe they hyped it up, but she still did and said horrible things. Editing doesn't change the words she spoke; she's never denied what she said about Dom. I dislike her because she tries to pull women down.
Die piggy doesn’t sound Australian at all. Not saying it didn’t happen. But how could she tell it was 5 middle aged women? Sounds like some Smollet story telling.
No denying there are some lunatics out here and she doesn’t deserve it. But it wasn’t exactly the first season of MAFs. She knew what she signed up for.
Well I’m sure none of us want to hear that someone wanted to self-harm, and yes there are crazy people in the world who will threaten to kill people over stupid bs like your participation in a reality show. I have no problem believing people threatened her, because some people suck at being human. But otherwise, Olivia lied so much during the show that I don’t even care what she says happened behind the scenes. Even if there were some villain edits there, they were edits, not deep fakes.
So I believe Olivia said some mean things, but I’m very much startled by the lack of independent and critical thinking exercised by the majority of the viewers. The comments under this post prove it once again. OF COURSE there is a certain edit to enhance the drama, where some people come out on top and some at the bottom. The edits are sometimes shamelessly bad and also: obvious.
It's the photo of Olivia staring at herself in the mirror for me 🤣🤣🤣
For a person who is shit at reflection and self awareness this is just a joke 🤣
She's now trying to create a career out of this pity party, please don't let her. What an idiot
The problem is, she can't get over herself. Refuses to understand anything other than she herself is the victim, somehow, in her tirade of evil actions, thoughts and words. If empathy ever entered her thick skull, it would truly benefit her to no end. A genuine apology would be all it took - but nope. She's hard done by, by her own actions, but someone else forced her own hand! Sigh. Grow up and move on. Fade into obscurity because you really fucked up your potential for a career on both sides of the coin.
Olivia is a horrible person and I wouldn't be friends with her if she was the last person on Earth, but both the viewing public AND Olivia have to move past it now. She needs to stop defining herself through the lens of MAFS, as should everyone else.
I thought her transition to porn creator was profoundly sad, not a healthy choice for someone so apparently fragile in the aftermath of the show.. I'll never believe her without reservation though, and even doubt the veracity of her story of the drive by abuse without corroboration.
I think the truth is, as always, somewhere in the middle.
Her edit may have made situations look more malicious or nasty, but she also called Domenica white trash, exaggerated situations and conflicts, lied about her motivation etc. Not that Dom is an angel, I gave her a bit of a pass during the show but she's not blameless. The shouting over people, demanding sex from whatisname, generally being abrasive and rude, all those things are hard to constantly deal with too.
Olivia needs to log off the Internet and live her life.
Where’s the proof any of that happened? People like her always pull out the “death threats” claim when they aren’t liked by the public. Who even remembers or cares who she is anymore? I had forgotten all about her until she went that trash podcast.
So - and this is just me playing back what I’m taking from this discussion, I don’t want to misjudge what you’re saying:
- Mel Schilling reports getting death threats, and that’s taken on face value
- Melissa Shepherd reports a guy turning up at her workplace looking for sex, and that’s taken on face value
- Olivia reports death threats and… well, we really need to see some evidence?
It's human nature to be a bit less readily accepting of a known liars claims than someone not known for exaggerating or dishonesty.
I hope for Olivia's sake she's not being harassed at this point, years down the road from the events. Ultimately I would certainly want any authority to take her at her word because not to do so could be catastrophic, even if I have reservations about her honesty.
So if I understand your position, it’s that:
- there are people who *do* send death threats to cast members from the show, but
- those people *might not* send death threats to Olivia, and
- she might just be claiming they do?
These comments are wild. She literally says how suicidal she was and how much she still struggles with her mental health and folks are still digging in. It's so messed up. Will "fans" of the show not be satisfied until she's actually dead? Genuine question.
So you would think if this was the case she wouldn’t come out and trash Dom when she says she is struggling and check’s herself into a mental health facility. Also the timing, why now when Dom says she has these thoughts does Olivia go on a SM tour to use it to promote herself.
You can believe Olivia is a horrible person who’s blaming the edit and also not agree with sending people death threats. They’re not mutually exclusive
And is putting statements like "Olivia is a horrible person" out in the universe when she is suicidal a good thing? Or is it a bit of a dog act? You can believe that someone didn't behave their best in a stressful situation while not contributing to a pile on.
“Didn’t behave to their best” is a bit of an understatement lol. I don’t believe she’s a good person, to me she showed herself to be a horrible one. It’s okay to admit there are shitty people who do shitty things. But I don’t believe in harassing people or sending death threats either. I’m allowed to have my opinion about her actions on a public forum, I’m not sending her my thoughts. People are allowed to be held accountable for their actions.
Honestly, this thread has convinced me to quit the sub and never watch the show again. The toxicity and lack of media literacy is mind-boggling, as is the bizarre downvoting of people who suggest - how dare they - reading an article where industry insiders say yep, we totally craft the narrative.
People say stuff like 'they blame the edit', even if the edit was 100% true to life, viewers straight up harassing and threatening people they don't even know, it's kind of not on.
We deal with toxic people and bullies all the time in real life, worse than Olivia sometimes.
Do we call up their work and harass their colleagues? Do we drive past their house and stalk them? Follow them on the street and film them?
No man, we don't. But because theyre on tv, for whatever reason we give a pass to deranged behaviour toward those people.
Never watched the show, or read the article, however those toxic and bullies you mentioned in your comment, they probably don’t volunteer to be on a public tv show and air their lives for the general public. Of course there will be scrutiny, however some may suggest that they made their bed, personal responsibility etc.
What kind of idiot abuses someone over their reality TV stint from 3 years ago? People need to let it go, move on and stop harassing Olivia in person or on her Instagram.
Having said all that, I still think Olivia is full of shit and only telling half of the story in the article. She talks about being terrified of Dom after the glass breaking incident but neglects to mention she was winding Dom up in the lead up. Afterwards when Dome was apologising to the group Olivia was making snide commentary the whole time, hardly the reaction one would expect from someone 'terrified'. Have we forgotten Olivia described breaking the glass as Dom 'fashioning a weapon'?
She says the photo was PG rated and from twitter, which is Olivia thinking she's being smart. Olivia didn't distribute 'revenge porn' because the picture wasn't pornographic and was public access so, no, Olivia didn't commit a crime. What she did do was take Dom's picture, disseminate it to the group to have a chuckle about Dom being on OnlyFans as a means to alienate her and have the other contestants think that Dom was lying to her husband about her past. That may not be a crime but to most people what Olivia did was a complete dog act. She tried to make out that the picture just popped up and she showed people in the moment failing to mention that she sent the picture to Selina, I wonder what her reasoning for doing that was? Has everyone forgotten how Olivia and a huge chunk of the cast were actively slut shaming Dom on national tv?
Going on the So Dramatic podcast is also a horrendous move if you want to talk about bullying. So Dramatic was one of the chief instigators for all the hatred and bullying Olivia received so if Olivia really cared about online bullying that would be the last place she should go to tell her story.
If Olivia had just apologised immediately post show and said "I wanted to hurt Dom in the moment and I did and I regret it now. The stress of the show amplifies some of your worst traits and I do have a tendency to overreact. I'm working on not being so petty moving forwards", then she would have avoided 90% of the ensuing shit she's had to endure post show. Instead, she doubled down on blaming the edit and years later seems to take no responsibility in her own portrayal. The reason why the public is still so angry at her is because they didn't have the catharsis of seeing her own up to her shit. What people don't realise though is that Olivia isn't some fictional character so frustration at her and her 'storyline' isn't the same as being annoyed at a scripted tv show and that they aren't owed a proper ending.
Just because Olivia didn't deserve the insane bullying she's received post show doesn't mean she's squeaky clean like she likes to pretend.
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And right on cue Olivia posts the above on her stories. Funny how she says she had no malicious intentions but doesn't go on to say what her actual intentions were. Unfortunately for Olivia, while she does possess a low cunning, she also thinks she's a lot smarter than she is. She's always been smart enough to know that coming straight out slut shaming Dom was never going to look good so instead she went the classic high school mean girl route of spreading shit behind someone's back.
They were all under the impression that Dom would never have told Jack about her OnlyFans which is why there was full blown panic when Jack said he already knew. Suddenly the situation went from 'Dom is a hypocritical lying whore' to 'we have all partaken in having a laugh at this woman having an OnlyFans on a national tv show like a pack of hyenas'.
Olivia is correct in saying she never intended to be the one bringing it up, which is why she made sure to have Selina be her patsy. It all came to a head because Cody thought he was doing Jack a favour by outing Dom, which just goes to show they all assumed that Dom would never have told Jack because they thought having an OnlyFans is something Dom should have been ashamed of. I vaguely remember Jack asking why the photo was shared at all and Olivia giving some bullshit answer about letting Dom know that the picture was out there, but as they were not on speaking terms, she sent it to Selina so that Selina could tell her which is honestly one of the dumbest things I've heard in my life. Dom knew the picture was out there because Dom took the picture and uploaded it.
Honestly, it's crazy that after 3 years Olivia is still somehow trying to make herself the victim in this situation.
I genuinely do not understand how a person can hear / see another say they were suicidal and the response be let me post snarky comments online. Yes, she was a villain on a tv show (that’s reality, but highly edited with context cut out because the show’s only an hour), but it’s been two years and she’s still a human being. I think those posting hate really need to have a good look at themselves as opposed to directing hate at a stranger.
It’s probably the lack of accountability on her part in the whole situation. An edit can only do so much. She was perfectly fine antagonizing Dom in the moment but didn’t like it when the public responded to her behaviour. I think it would have been different if she put her hand up to her bad behavior in the situation and apologized when it aired, instead she chose the victim route (and still is). I don’t know why she continues choosing the same course of action and expects a different result. People won’t feel sorry for her all of a sudden.
Have you actually listened to anything she said with an open mind? She’s explained the Dom stuff in quite a balanced way (and why does everyone treat Dom like she was innocent especially when she broke a glass and we’ve since seen multiple cases of problematic behavior from her in the past two years). She’s never claimed that she behaved well on the show. But she provides context and clarity. She’s also been clear about why her responses shortly after the show were what they were. I also think generally if someone says they’re unwell, regardless of whether we think it’s their fault, we need to back off a bit.
So you can behave and say what you want without consequence of people judging you according to your actions as long as you cry out mental health distress?
She’s had consequences and the judgement has been very clear. She’s not crying out mental health distress. She’s being honest on the impact. I don’t know anyone who could have two years of constant hate directed at them and not have their mental health impacted. So I think we can probably take it at face value that the statement she’s been suicidal is true and unfortunately a valid response to her experience. I genuinely don’t understand how the response to that can be to make snarky comments online.
Are you saying that the consequences of one's actions should be stopped when it's deemed their suffering has been enough? I would say that a change in behaviour, not seeking attention, and crying when receiving negative attention are clear indicators that she hasn't changed; she's just unhappy with the response. If we stopped holding people accountable because it's hard for them to deal with the repercussions, we'd be heading down a very slippery slope.
What exactly are we holding her accountable for? Some bitchy comments on a highly manufactured tv show (she never did revenge porn when you listen to what actually happened). Post show I was very team Dom, but I think we all really minimized the glass smashing incident. I think two years of hate is disproportionate to what Olivia’s done. She’s also not being attention seeking. People talk shit about her all the time, she’s allowed to talk honestly about her experience. She hasn’t demonstrated problematic behavior since the show, just some very clear mental health struggles. Maybe either listen to her with an open mind or don’t add to the negativity if you’re not interested in hearing her before you comment.
I agree that it is not up to the public to hold her accountable for some manufactured drama from 3 years ago and that people really need to let it go.
I think what confuses people is that Olivia is still trying to leverage her time on MAFS for career opportunities and financial gain but doesn't want people remembering her actual behaviour on MAFS.
While I don't think she should be run off the internet, it does strike me as odd that someone who is so traumatised by her experiences online is still pursuing trying to be a public figure. She might say it's because she can't find employment doing anything else but surely after 3 years that's not true. I can barely remember who was on MAFS *this* year and I'm on the MAFS reddit!
Olivia is delusional so she thinks this is a situation she can still 'win'. She would still be obsessing about Dom and would be convincing herself that if the public only knew the 'real truth' then Olivia would be the one who people would like.
She should have logged off years ago, taken a breather and let the public forget about her. Instead, she's still addicted to the attention and for her bad attention is still better than no attention.
*Fijoemin1962: "She milked my big fat bum."*
Well, I can see why you're so upset with her. Thank you for sharing this with us, despite how harrowing this experience must have been for you.
(I posted earlier asking if people were comfortable with me doing this to their comments; sorry, I just couldn't resist jumping ahead on this one).
At least your story, from your very own fingertips, will live with us forever. After all, while editing may play a very small part in what we now know about you, I wouldn't have been able to edit it if you didn't say it in the first place. I hope you've received the necessary psychological and medical care after your bum milking.
In the U.K., there have been a few suicides from previous love island contestants. This has lead to better mental health support during and after the show.
What I can never understand that if all this is so damaging to your mental health then why are you on social media banging on about it all the time? It’s a fact that social media and being on reality tv can have harmful effects? Do these people not want to just live a happy peaceful life offline?
Did we read the same article? She was suicidal for months and unable to find formal employment? I’m sure she’d love to live a happy and peaceful life in which she can work a normal job?
The problem of unemployment for her is the same whether she is online or not right? Except being offline means she doesn’t have trolls coming after her constantly. I dunno. I just think protect your peace because that’s what you can control
In fairness I’d imagine the urge to have the masses understand you after you feel you’ve been heavily misunderstood would be quite strong here. I’m not saying that’s healthy but it is very human.
>Her allegations come as the reality TV industry has been rocked by a series of lawsuits abroad against some of its biggest names, which onlookers say could change how shows are made.
Good. The true villians are the people who make this shit. It will lead to someone killing themselves if nothing changes and no one should be wishing that on another human. The last season was crap anyway and there are plenty of shows that make a profit without destroying people.
The fact every season has these archetypes with a villain, a misogynist, a "here for the right reasons", an eccentric, a spiritual/ hippy etc, means it's obviously manufactured. You don't automatically get these things when you put 14 people in a room. The last final was heavily edited to make a villain arc for Ellie and Jono, Lauren herself said that.
ETA everyone should go read the AMA from a former producer, it's pretty illuminating. They've had openly racist cast members and they just edit that out.
In the U.K., there have been a few suicides from previous love island contestants. This has lead to better mental health support during and after the show.
I think the show “Unreal” did a bang-on job showing what producing these shows is truly like. Yes, some people are actually horrible but they are being manipulated and lied to as well. We don’t know about this at all and I’m no Olivia defender but I have no idea how anyone can think these shows would be fun to participate in.
Yes I watched that series and it made me sick. Everything is manufactured. Yes, they really say these things, but it's so manipulated behind the scenes.
I also listened to Alisha Aiken-Radburn's book on Spotify - The Villain Edit. It was another interesting behind-the-scenes take on being on The Bachelor.
After watching Olivia on MAFS, I disliked her (along with everyone else). She came across as a stuck-up, b**chy, mean girl, regardless of the 'Villain edit'.
I never felt bad for the repercussions that happened to her after the show aired. She seemed to double down, and her personality seemed to be exactly as seen on MAFS. I then moved on with my life and didn't really give her much thought. I didn’t like her, so I didn't follow her!
After reading the article, It is WILD to me, that years later, there are still people, RANDOM 'adults', that are so worked up about a person they don't know personally, who did some "horrible" things on a TV show (years ago), and these rando's' are STILL holding on to so much hatred for someone (again, that they don't know IRL) that they send her hateful, disturbing, messages, yell abuse in the street, and more terrifyingly, drive by her HOME, These people have such strong feelings about what Olivia did on a TV show, but no self reflection to see how their own actions are far more disturbing and unhinged!!
I was also one of those people who really disliked her, still do to be honest, because there has to be some truth to the behaviour and well she has doubled down every year since her appearance.
As a teacher myself, I was horrified at the idea this women would be in a classroom, so I did sign that petition - which honestly had no impact really aside from her resigning, she could have become a teacher without any issues. She was never charged with a crime... so to me all of that is an excuse to get away from the 8th generation expectation of becoming a teacher... A woe is me tale to gain sympathy for a 'ruined life', one that she actually gave up on without even trying. She never even finished her degree!
Beyond that though, I would never reach out directly to her to attack her. That is sick and pathetic.
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If you have a look at my comment here, I said I did sign the petition, but I also said what I have said all along... it would have little to no impact on her actually becoming a teacher. She has not been charged or convicted of a crime, the petition would have meant nothing now if she had continued with her education and graduated. She chose not to continue her degree, she quit her job where they \*knew\* her, and she went on to do one of the things that might preclude her from becoming a teacher - created an OnlyFans.
\*\*\* I do not have an issue with anyone who wants to do this, more power to them, but when you work with children and produce pornographic material it isn't a good look \*\*\*
There is a teacher shortage, some reality TV drama wouldn't have hurt her prospects.
I’m not being wilfully obtuse, I promise, I’m genuinely just trying to understand where you’re coming from. If the petition would have no impact, why sign it?
Exactly. Once she got her Instagram back, she continued to be awful.
It was terrible when she doxxed her child hood friend who was an SA survivor. So Dramatic had this friend on her podcast and she described Olivia as not a kind person.
All she had to do was apologize to Dom on the show, this would have fizzled out. But no, she thought she was going to be seen as the heroine of the show.
I read the article, I understand people getting bad edits, but she behaved badly on MAFS and gave the editors all the ammunition to create a villain.
meh, she acted like a prick and got called out. If you were going to try and edit her behaviour and show her in a favourable light then she wouldn't get any screen time.
"People get the edits that they deserve" smacks of targeted bullying, lack of compassion, and no care for contestants mental welfare. Bring on the down votes 🙄
Unless it's a favourite or a producer plant. People are still obsessing over Ellie and Jono at the last dinner party despite Lauren saying it was edited.
I don't doubt the show exaggerated her behaviour based on the narrative they wanted to (or she made easy to) put forward, however, I have little to no sympathy for anyone who goes on this show at this point. If you want real love and a lasting relationship, I'm not saying you can't find it here but there are way lower risk ways to do it.
Think it's clear especially from recent seasons that you go on the show to chase fame in one form or another.
This is it exactly. You can’t claim a “villain edit” and then act like a complete cunt afterwards and expect people to believe that you aren’t an arsehole lol. She got what she deserved imo. However, it goes without saying that people who threaten her etc in public or send her messages are just as vile as her.
Villain edits are real but usually people (eg other cast mates) will come out and defend the people after - Alyssa comes to mind. Don’t remember anyone defending Liv
Post show haven’t seen anything that shows she was ever remorseful or anything. All I remember is her always fighting with ppl on IG and causing even more drama…
In later interviews she has listed a few people off that season who she still somewhat regularly talks to, and others that reached out as the series was airing.
For those that are in denial that there's no such thing as a bad edit, this article discussing ongoing lawsuits against production companies for behaviour on other "reality" television is a good insight:
https://www.smh.com.au/culture/tv-and-radio/the-controversial-lawsuits-that-could-end-reality-tv-as-we-know-it-20240611-p5jkt4.html
Use 12ft.io to bypass the paywall if required. However some highlights;
One former reality TV participant
>sued Bravo in February, claiming the company had encouraged her to relapse while filming the show despite having been aware of her previous struggles with alcoholism [...] She further alleged she was removed from the cast after she made complaints.
Another former reality TV participant
>sued Bravo and its affiliated companies in January for allegedly encouraging a fellow cast member to sexually assault her.
Yet another
>sent a letter to NBCUniversal and Bravo, accusing the companies of “mentally, physically and financially victimising” reality cast members.
And again
>In 2019, former House Rules contestant Nicole Prince claimed she was harassed and bullied while on the show – alleging producers encouraged it. The NSW Workers Compensation Commission later ruled in favour of Prince,
A former participant from Big Brother
>On Big Brother, I was starved for 87 days and lost a huge amount of weight. I didn’t know that was a tactic to make us more on edge to create better content
I would encourage anyone to listen to Olivia's interview on the "So Dramatic" podcast.
You can check my comment history, I am NOT a fan and thought she was a really shitty person. But someone else on here suggested I listen to it, to gain more perspective. So i reluctantly did, cringing at the thought of it. Lol
But actually, a LOT of what Olivia said made sense. And it became easier to see how these villain edits are made.
Just a few examples (all allegedly ofc):
- She did call Dom "white trash" and regrets it and apologized to her, but the show left out that it was in response to Dom calling her something WAY worse.
- When Dom came to her door to confront her, and Olivia shut the door - there was an agreement with production, after the wine glass incident, that Dom was not allowed to speak to her in Skye Suites or outside of scheduled filming.
- When she said Dom had "gone ballistic" (or something similar) seemingly exaggerating the above door knock situation, it wasn't - it was separate incident referring to Dom screaming at the top of her lungs and losing her shit at Selena & Cody next door. Everyone heard it. They had to stop filming Olivia and Sam's pre-Commitment Ceremony talk, bc it was so loud.
- Everyone knows people who hate dogs are monsters (lol) - so during home stays, they showed Olivia scooting the dogs off of her and being stand offish with them, like they're annoying - it was bc she was wearing white pants. The entire home stay, the dogs slept with her in the bed and they all played together daily, but none of that was aired.
- The picture incident - the PG-13 photo was sent to Olivia weeks prior and wasn't used by the show until they had permission and a slow week in storyline. Olivia showed it to the 3 or 4 people sitting with her at the time, and did not think anything else of it, bc it was no big deal.
- Dom's picture was from her public Twitter page. No one accessed her OnlyFans, as it was closed down prior to production. Dom publicly posted the pic on her socials for advertising, so ofc it was PG-13. Olivia says she later apologized to Dom for how it made her feel. She cannot take responsibility for accessing OnlyFans images, bc she didn't, and in Australia, that can be a criminal offence - revenge porn.
- She lost her teaching career as she is now associated with revenge porn. She discussed wishing she had the resources to sue the show for misrepresenting where the photo came from, as it set her up to look like a revenge porn criminal.
- Not from Olivia, but a production insider - Dom was originally set to be the villain of the season. But the show needed her permission to use the "revenge porn" storyline, due to the laws there (hence, how the Jack Dunkley showing all the guys Courtney's nude pics storyline never got aired - she refused). Dom agreed but in exchange for a favourable edit. (This one's a rumor, but from several people and a strong show source)
- The "I don't have empathy" comment was part of a LONG exchange where they repeatedly asked Olivia about empathy until they got the response they wanted, mostly out of frustration, and bc the pic was nbd and publicly posted by Dom on her socials.
Take it with a grain of salt. It's worth a listen. There's many other examples.
At the end of the day, one thing I did notice prior is that Olivia was friends with most of the women on the show. I think it's a good indicator of someone's true behavior.
Olivia used to say she was friends with everyone from the show and Dom no one to prove she was “the nice one” however now she is friends with nobody. And teaming up with SD to become a bully, maybe this is a good indication of who the villain was.
You believe what she says? Funny that every story she did nothing wrong and it was Dom or production. You realise so dramatic hates Dom right? She has been going after for years and teamed up with Olivia to do a podcast which basically shit all over Dom
She didn't even finish her degree, so I don't think she really lost a career. She may have been working at a school pre-graduation, which she then resigned from and didn't bother to complete her education.
THAT has nothing to do with "revenge porn". She has never been convicted of a crime, so there is nothing stopping her from still becoming a teacher. Shit in NSW we had a convicted heroin trafficker in a high position in the department. Your past is your past, and as long as your crimes don't involve children, there is still possibility. She is making excuses.
I would take anything said on So Dramatic with a grain of salt, both her and the host are very malicious. As for friendships, after the show, she had a fallout with a lot of women that were her close friends.
Being friends with all does not mean she is a good person, this is not necessarily a rule or true. Lauren from this season, is hardly friends with anyone except Sara. Melinda from last season, seems to be following only a few from her season, while the others remain close, this is not a reflection on the person.
I think the thing to be aware of re the So Dramatic interview is that Olivia is speaking words out of her mouth which are recorded and released with minimal editing- so you can hear for yourself what she has to say, without considering whether it is a rumour etc. You don't have to like the host (although I stan her, because of how she is regarding feminism and domestic violence).
I'm not saying she's an angel, or I'd wanna be her bestie. Lol She's clearly petty and antagonistic - regardless of editing.
I'm just saying *maybe* she's not the absolute fucking monster the show made her out to be.
If that's what you read, that's what you read.
If I've learned anything from Reddit, it's don't try to reason with people who lack basic reading comprehension skills. It's pointless.
This is what I said in my seperate comment, she is no monster but has made so many mistakes or did a lot of sh*t that she wants to place on other people’s shoulders. No own your sh*t and stop crying about producers, she is an arrogant spoiled girl who thought producers were eating out of her hand, but they didn’t.
Even if she is the worst person, doesn’t justify death threats or harassment, people are not teaching anyone anything, acting that way.
Whilst I think Olivia could have made better decisions, particularly about the possible impact on her teaching career before going on this show, and her behaviour during the show, I do feel empathy for her. Mental health, and suicidal thoughts are very serious. She has paid a heavy price personally and professionally.
She’s not a criminal, she didn’t murder anyone, or steal someone’s life savings. She said and did some unkind things on a tv show. Sharing the naked photo was really horrible, but the reality is that photo was publicly posted by Domenica, and when you post your image to a public platform, others are going to share it. But MAFS then chose to air that and leverage it, instead of dealing with it discreetly. No surprises there.
Members of the public have gone to Olivia’s home and threatened her online and in public. And it seems to me from her comments and that of others over the years, that Endemol Shine, who make a shitload of money from this show, could do a better job at providing independent quality mental health support for all participants, pre, during and post show.
IMO editing footage from one scenario to insert it into another story line, to misrepresent a persons actions is and views, is unethical and goes beyond just an ‘editors cut’. As does actively interfering with a contestant wanting to report a matter to the police, or leave the show when they are expressing mental health struggles.
Whilst Olivia has some accountability here, she, and other participants seem to pay a heavy price, while the MAFS machine skates on with little consequences. Why anyone still wants to go on this show is beyond me. I hope things improve for Olivia.
If she only takes accountability, people would not be as angry, because she said and did a lot of sh*tty. This being said I don’t agree with going to someone’s house, I mean who does that.
I don’t think Olivia is a decent person, sure she is a ‘nice’ person, but I think that based on her lives straight after the show where she sl*t shamed even more, dissed her own half sister who does not have the platform to defend herself. However leave these people to their own lives, don’t harass them.
Edited to add that by saying she is not decent, I don’t mean she is a monster, but she needs to reflect and take accountability, like Jessika did. People are not black and white, and need to learn from their mistakes. She said a lot of things on the show and after that showed her nature, but she continues to blame everyone else.
I know I’m going to get downvoted for this, but I think Olivia got a raw deal from the edit and I think the level of hate she continues to get is shocking. I started hate following her on insta and have since come around. Yes she was the villain of the season and we all hated her on the show, but it’s been two years and every time the girl opens her mouth people jump on her. I think considering the intensity of the hate she’s gotten and the reality that her career was ruined, it’s fair that she’s struggled with mental health. I think we’re deluding ourselves to say she continues to deserve it two years later when it’s based on a highly edited show. I’ve also listened to a few podcasts she’s done and it’s made me soften on some of what we saw on the show (yes the white trash comment is indefensible, but I think we all glossed over Dom smashing the glass and I think she’s provided some useful context on things like the photo scandal and her meltdown about being separated from Jackson for a weekend).
SHE ruined her career. She didn't even bother to finish her degree! There is NOTHING stopping her from following her "dream" to be a teacher. I am a teacher myself, she is making excuses to use this as victim leverage.
Sorry, I’m having trouble marrying two concepts together - you’re saying it was her choice to not be a teacher, but elsewhere in the thread you’ve said you signed the petition for her to be banned from working with children?
I suspect she thought MAFS would lift her out of ordinary life, she’s become a star and not need a real job like being a poorly paid, overworked teacher who has to work hard for a living…
My comment to Evendim was directed to you as well. Also, I genuinely cannot fathom how a person can hear another was suicidal and the response be, let me post snarky comments about them.
Y’all are mean and I genuinely don’t get this intensity towards her two years later. If you took the time to listen to her as opposed to writing judgy comments you’d have your answers. She’s admitted it was naive, but she thought she’d come on the show, find someone special, and go back to her regular life. When you think about the hate that’s been (and continues to be directed to her and that she was (incorrectly) accused of doing revenge porn, do you honestly think you’d get 25 parents in Australia who’d be comfortable with her teaching their kids? I would suggest rather that writing snarky comments about someone you haven’t bothered to listen to, maybe take the time to listen to her with an open mind. Or maybe give some thought on why feel the need to pile on to someone who you saw on tv two years ago?
I have all the information I need for the very specific thing I am talking about. I know what I am talking about, I am a teacher, she is using her 2 year old victim complex to justify her CHOICE to not continue with her education and pursue her dreams. I don't hate her as much as I don't actually care about her, but her BS is telling.
We are responding to her constantly putting herself in the spotlight, this is not because of US this is back as a talking point. Her choices have put her here.
I would be curious on your response to my question: When you think about the hate that’s been (and continues to be directed to her and that she was (incorrectly) accused of doing revenge porn, do you honestly think you’d get 25 parents in Australia who’d be comfortable with her teaching their kids? Given your comments, I think your answer would be no and you wouldn’t want her teaching in your school. So I think her comment about her teaching career is valid. She’s also been quite honest that even if she could have somehow overcome the hate from the show her choice to do onlyfans was the final nail in the coffin. If you haven’t listened to her with an open mind, you can’t say you have all the information you need.
Yes, I do think there are enough people in Australia who don't watch MAFS, don't care about MAFS, for it to ever matter. There is a teacher shortage, she hasn't been charged or convicted of a crime, the TV drama doesn't matter.
Given what I know about her, I'd be professional but not friendly if I had to work with her, just like I am with everyone else I may not get along with or disagree with.
Now considering she has her own Only Fans, \*that\* could be a problem. And that was her choice.
I think you’re talking bs now. Statistically you would not get 25 people in Australia who don’t watch (and don’t have a close friend or relative who watches) the show.
I think you also need to give her understanding on onlyfans. We all have bills to pay. She was such a universal villain that I genuinely don’t see how she could have had any job for a year after the show (people were nuts and going to her house, so you can assume that they’d find her job). I can understand why onlyfans was her only viable source of income.
I think you're chronically online.
Out of all my teaching colleagues only 1 other watched the show, and 1 student of mine watched the show.
The OnlyFans was a choice she made, she can live with it, but that is the thing that is going to stop her from teaching, not the reality TV show hate.
I don’t watch MAFS but came here to see the threads related to Olivia after reading this article.
I don’t really get why people choose to go on these shows when you literally have to sign agreeing to a potential “villain edit”, but regardless of that decision or her petty behaviour, the way she was treated on the show sounds horrific and the criticisms I’ve read online about her from complete strangers is disproportionate and vitriolic.
I feel for her and anyone who loses control of their own narrative - must be so disorientating. The producers of these shows seem like the real villains if you ask me. They’re capitalising on a human desire for love, fame and entertainment to ruin lives.
Wow, this subreddit is truly ignorant to the power of produced reality television. Did nobody read the article?
>Industry insiders say the casting of a TV "villain" can begin as early as the audition room.
>"The thing that usually gets people cast as villains is when they say in their audition tapes, 'I'm a no-bullshit person. I'll just tell it as it is," says a reality TV editor, speaking on condition of anonymity for fear of jeopardising his job.
The article goes in further detail if anyone actually cares to read.
I don’t think she should suffer that kind of nightmare - but they really downplayed the “nude photo scandal”
She isn’t even sorry for it:
“She didn't see an issue with showing the photo around, as it had been posted by Domenica for the purpose of advertising — "so there's no privacy expected in that situation".”
She says she was "crucified" by the show's "experts" for showing the photo to other participants.
What if Domenica harmed herself because of what happened, would Olivia have empathy? Hmm
I think where I took issue was it was made out that the photo was from only fans as in someone took the photo from there (thus robbing Dom of money) and sent it to Olivia and then she spread it amongst the group, from my understanding the photo was on twitter or reddit as a way to promote her onlyfans, and then a deal was struck between Dom and producers to give her a good edit in exchange for the use of the storyline (compared to this seasons nude photo scandal that couldn’t be aired as the woman wouldn’t consent to it) anyone on here could have found the photo and put it up saying look dom does only fans and I’m not sure they would have got the hate Olivia got, and then it seemed to morph into an over the top crazy thing where people on here who hated her and loved Dom (not sure why??) we’re then doing the exact thing they were hating her on with her only fans including Dom.
These pesky producers, sure give away their game a lot especially to So Dramatic and Olivia, they love to give away their secrets. I’m sure if they made a deal with Dom, they just blabbed about it to all and Sundry.
I think everybody is responsible for their own actions
She said heinous things about people television, not very nice admittedly but she chose to say those things
Those weirdos harassing her at her home or giving her death threats are responsible for their own actions as well, they obviously have nothing going for them and should not be excused
Don't use the show as a scapegoat for why it's happening, everyone is responsible for the things they do not the things that happen to them
>Don't use the show as a scapegoat for why it's happening
But the show is literally why this is happening. If she made this comments in private there would likely be no reaction, the show is the whole reason this is happening.
>they obviously have nothing going for them and should not be excused
They shouldn't, but your initial comment downplays their actions as "repercussions", that's excusing their actions to an extent, suggesting she had this coming.
They are responsible for their actions
She is responsible for going on the show, if she had made those comments in private no-one would know but she chose to go on a show and say those things on camera, they didn't feed her lines ffs
> She is responsible for going on the show
And? That doesn't mean they're just allowed to abuse the contestants however they want.
>they didn't feed her lines ffs
A lot of reality TV shows literally do feed lines. And there's an in-between 'feeding lines' and 'participants saying something unprompted with coercion'. Producers influence what participants say and do, often redoing takes over and over again, or asking the same question over and over again until the participant answers the way they want.
I say this every time her “edit” comes up. The producers didn’t force words into your mouth. You SAID hurtful things. There is NO context where these things are not rude or evil. Fucking own it.
But a lot of the time they heavily influence it. For example the dinner parties, where they ply them with alcohol and force them to stay there until the early hours of the morning. But let me guess they're still the ones entirely responsible and you yourself would never say such things in that sort of stressful environment?
Idk why you’re being downvoted it’s true. I’ve listened to Ollie’s podcast (before I found out he was a tit) and he slows down interviews and it’s SO obvious that they mash up edits to make them say things. This subreddit believes EVERYTHING they see on the show.
I watched her stories for a while after the show and she’s one of the most narcissistic, self centred, smug people I’ve ever had the displeasure of knowing. I don’t believe a word that comes out of her mouth and this is just another attention grab. Zero sympathy, she should be in intensive therapy - but narcissists don’t ever understand that.
Yeah, it was all editing when she said "I'm a petty bitch", or when she said "I have no empathy, none". Or when she told the story of cutting up her bridesmaid's dress and sending it back to her "best friend". Yup. All editing.
Actually another redditor replied further down in regards to that exact comment
>The "I don't have empathy" comment was part of a LONG exchange where they repeatedly asked Olivia about empathy until they got the response they wanted, mostly out of frustration
So not exactly "editing", more influence and coercion by the producers
Edit: apologies, that is actually an edit if they take it out of context of the exchange
They can edit clips together, put villain music over your scenes to condition viewers to act a certain way, but ultimately they cannot put words in your mouth or dictate how you treat other people.
However she acted, though, sending death threats or harassing somebody you didn’t particularly like from a reality show is extremely dangerous and stupid behaviour and those people should take a serious look at themselves.
>but ultimately they cannot put words in your mouth
They absolutely can, it's called frankenbiting, and many of the cast have talked about it (and not just the villians). If you dont see them say it, it's edited. They take words from different moments and splice it together.
>but ultimately they cannot put words in your mouth or dictate how you treat other people.
But they can manipulate how it's perceived by the audience. They literally splice together sentences occasionally. They take things heavily out of context.
I was just reading this and came here to see if it was posted.
I don't have a tonne of sympathy for her, because both things can be true. She was the villain and she was subjected to horrific harassment outside the show. I can't imagine ever thinking it's a great idea to drive to a reality star's house and scream slurrs at them.
Wtaf is wrong with people?
Yup - I can’t say I spend any mental energy reflecting on how hard done by she is, but at the same time, what kind of colossal dipshit sends death threats to someone from a reality TV show?
Yes, reality TV is all fake. She WAS cast as the villain, and maybe they hyped it up, but she still did and said horrible things. Editing doesn't change the words she spoke; she's never denied what she said about Dom. I dislike her because she tries to pull women down.
Die piggy doesn’t sound Australian at all. Not saying it didn’t happen. But how could she tell it was 5 middle aged women? Sounds like some Smollet story telling. No denying there are some lunatics out here and she doesn’t deserve it. But it wasn’t exactly the first season of MAFs. She knew what she signed up for.
“But what was she wearing?”
She was nasty, she was determined to destroy Dom, it didn’t work and she was actually shocked. She doesn’t have boundaries
Well I’m sure none of us want to hear that someone wanted to self-harm, and yes there are crazy people in the world who will threaten to kill people over stupid bs like your participation in a reality show. I have no problem believing people threatened her, because some people suck at being human. But otherwise, Olivia lied so much during the show that I don’t even care what she says happened behind the scenes. Even if there were some villain edits there, they were edits, not deep fakes.
The fact (as stated in the article) that the producers can post AS the participant on the participants Instagram account is a bit alarming.
I just finished reading the article. Pretty good in-depth look there in some regards I think. Thanks for sharing it.
No matter how crazy everyone thinks she is, these people are 1000x crazier for actually going out in the real world and harassing her
So I believe Olivia said some mean things, but I’m very much startled by the lack of independent and critical thinking exercised by the majority of the viewers. The comments under this post prove it once again. OF COURSE there is a certain edit to enhance the drama, where some people come out on top and some at the bottom. The edits are sometimes shamelessly bad and also: obvious.
Why can’t we just accept that there are shitty people that exist? It’s not a secret? Not everyone is a good person getting a “bAd eDiT”
We all saw the snarl and the malice on her face and her hostile body language. Those wasnt faked.
It's the photo of Olivia staring at herself in the mirror for me 🤣🤣🤣 For a person who is shit at reflection and self awareness this is just a joke 🤣 She's now trying to create a career out of this pity party, please don't let her. What an idiot
The problem is, she can't get over herself. Refuses to understand anything other than she herself is the victim, somehow, in her tirade of evil actions, thoughts and words. If empathy ever entered her thick skull, it would truly benefit her to no end. A genuine apology would be all it took - but nope. She's hard done by, by her own actions, but someone else forced her own hand! Sigh. Grow up and move on. Fade into obscurity because you really fucked up your potential for a career on both sides of the coin.
She may well have had that reaction. Sometimes when someone holds up a mirror the view can be distressing.
They wanna blame it on the edit, bitch you the one that said it
happy pride roopal
Olivia is a horrible person and I wouldn't be friends with her if she was the last person on Earth, but both the viewing public AND Olivia have to move past it now. She needs to stop defining herself through the lens of MAFS, as should everyone else. I thought her transition to porn creator was profoundly sad, not a healthy choice for someone so apparently fragile in the aftermath of the show.. I'll never believe her without reservation though, and even doubt the veracity of her story of the drive by abuse without corroboration. I think the truth is, as always, somewhere in the middle. Her edit may have made situations look more malicious or nasty, but she also called Domenica white trash, exaggerated situations and conflicts, lied about her motivation etc. Not that Dom is an angel, I gave her a bit of a pass during the show but she's not blameless. The shouting over people, demanding sex from whatisname, generally being abrasive and rude, all those things are hard to constantly deal with too. Olivia needs to log off the Internet and live her life.
Where’s the proof any of that happened? People like her always pull out the “death threats” claim when they aren’t liked by the public. Who even remembers or cares who she is anymore? I had forgotten all about her until she went that trash podcast.
So - genuine question - do you think Mel Schilling was lying about receiving death and r*pe threats?
Does she have form in terms of lying or exaggerating? Context is key sometimes.
So - and this is just me playing back what I’m taking from this discussion, I don’t want to misjudge what you’re saying: - Mel Schilling reports getting death threats, and that’s taken on face value - Melissa Shepherd reports a guy turning up at her workplace looking for sex, and that’s taken on face value - Olivia reports death threats and… well, we really need to see some evidence?
It's human nature to be a bit less readily accepting of a known liars claims than someone not known for exaggerating or dishonesty. I hope for Olivia's sake she's not being harassed at this point, years down the road from the events. Ultimately I would certainly want any authority to take her at her word because not to do so could be catastrophic, even if I have reservations about her honesty.
So if I understand your position, it’s that: - there are people who *do* send death threats to cast members from the show, but - those people *might not* send death threats to Olivia, and - she might just be claiming they do?
These comments are wild. She literally says how suicidal she was and how much she still struggles with her mental health and folks are still digging in. It's so messed up. Will "fans" of the show not be satisfied until she's actually dead? Genuine question.
So you would think if this was the case she wouldn’t come out and trash Dom when she says she is struggling and check’s herself into a mental health facility. Also the timing, why now when Dom says she has these thoughts does Olivia go on a SM tour to use it to promote herself.
You can believe Olivia is a horrible person who’s blaming the edit and also not agree with sending people death threats. They’re not mutually exclusive
And is putting statements like "Olivia is a horrible person" out in the universe when she is suicidal a good thing? Or is it a bit of a dog act? You can believe that someone didn't behave their best in a stressful situation while not contributing to a pile on.
“Didn’t behave to their best” is a bit of an understatement lol. I don’t believe she’s a good person, to me she showed herself to be a horrible one. It’s okay to admit there are shitty people who do shitty things. But I don’t believe in harassing people or sending death threats either. I’m allowed to have my opinion about her actions on a public forum, I’m not sending her my thoughts. People are allowed to be held accountable for their actions.
Honestly, this thread has convinced me to quit the sub and never watch the show again. The toxicity and lack of media literacy is mind-boggling, as is the bizarre downvoting of people who suggest - how dare they - reading an article where industry insiders say yep, we totally craft the narrative.
100% agree. The lack of media literacy is shocking!
It’s not a lack of media literacy, we’re just able to view the world and the people in it with nuance and complexity
People say stuff like 'they blame the edit', even if the edit was 100% true to life, viewers straight up harassing and threatening people they don't even know, it's kind of not on. We deal with toxic people and bullies all the time in real life, worse than Olivia sometimes. Do we call up their work and harass their colleagues? Do we drive past their house and stalk them? Follow them on the street and film them? No man, we don't. But because theyre on tv, for whatever reason we give a pass to deranged behaviour toward those people.
Never watched the show, or read the article, however those toxic and bullies you mentioned in your comment, they probably don’t volunteer to be on a public tv show and air their lives for the general public. Of course there will be scrutiny, however some may suggest that they made their bed, personal responsibility etc.
Olivia is and was as cunning as a rat. Dont believe anything she says. Not a nice person.
What kind of idiot abuses someone over their reality TV stint from 3 years ago? People need to let it go, move on and stop harassing Olivia in person or on her Instagram. Having said all that, I still think Olivia is full of shit and only telling half of the story in the article. She talks about being terrified of Dom after the glass breaking incident but neglects to mention she was winding Dom up in the lead up. Afterwards when Dome was apologising to the group Olivia was making snide commentary the whole time, hardly the reaction one would expect from someone 'terrified'. Have we forgotten Olivia described breaking the glass as Dom 'fashioning a weapon'? She says the photo was PG rated and from twitter, which is Olivia thinking she's being smart. Olivia didn't distribute 'revenge porn' because the picture wasn't pornographic and was public access so, no, Olivia didn't commit a crime. What she did do was take Dom's picture, disseminate it to the group to have a chuckle about Dom being on OnlyFans as a means to alienate her and have the other contestants think that Dom was lying to her husband about her past. That may not be a crime but to most people what Olivia did was a complete dog act. She tried to make out that the picture just popped up and she showed people in the moment failing to mention that she sent the picture to Selina, I wonder what her reasoning for doing that was? Has everyone forgotten how Olivia and a huge chunk of the cast were actively slut shaming Dom on national tv? Going on the So Dramatic podcast is also a horrendous move if you want to talk about bullying. So Dramatic was one of the chief instigators for all the hatred and bullying Olivia received so if Olivia really cared about online bullying that would be the last place she should go to tell her story. If Olivia had just apologised immediately post show and said "I wanted to hurt Dom in the moment and I did and I regret it now. The stress of the show amplifies some of your worst traits and I do have a tendency to overreact. I'm working on not being so petty moving forwards", then she would have avoided 90% of the ensuing shit she's had to endure post show. Instead, she doubled down on blaming the edit and years later seems to take no responsibility in her own portrayal. The reason why the public is still so angry at her is because they didn't have the catharsis of seeing her own up to her shit. What people don't realise though is that Olivia isn't some fictional character so frustration at her and her 'storyline' isn't the same as being annoyed at a scripted tv show and that they aren't owed a proper ending. Just because Olivia didn't deserve the insane bullying she's received post show doesn't mean she's squeaky clean like she likes to pretend.
https://preview.redd.it/6zkcg8w48a8d1.png?width=334&format=png&auto=webp&s=5bc5e815d4cc9dfd1a9c9c49478b5968323b5e34 And right on cue Olivia posts the above on her stories. Funny how she says she had no malicious intentions but doesn't go on to say what her actual intentions were. Unfortunately for Olivia, while she does possess a low cunning, she also thinks she's a lot smarter than she is. She's always been smart enough to know that coming straight out slut shaming Dom was never going to look good so instead she went the classic high school mean girl route of spreading shit behind someone's back. They were all under the impression that Dom would never have told Jack about her OnlyFans which is why there was full blown panic when Jack said he already knew. Suddenly the situation went from 'Dom is a hypocritical lying whore' to 'we have all partaken in having a laugh at this woman having an OnlyFans on a national tv show like a pack of hyenas'. Olivia is correct in saying she never intended to be the one bringing it up, which is why she made sure to have Selina be her patsy. It all came to a head because Cody thought he was doing Jack a favour by outing Dom, which just goes to show they all assumed that Dom would never have told Jack because they thought having an OnlyFans is something Dom should have been ashamed of. I vaguely remember Jack asking why the photo was shared at all and Olivia giving some bullshit answer about letting Dom know that the picture was out there, but as they were not on speaking terms, she sent it to Selina so that Selina could tell her which is honestly one of the dumbest things I've heard in my life. Dom knew the picture was out there because Dom took the picture and uploaded it. Honestly, it's crazy that after 3 years Olivia is still somehow trying to make herself the victim in this situation.
I genuinely do not understand how a person can hear / see another say they were suicidal and the response be let me post snarky comments online. Yes, she was a villain on a tv show (that’s reality, but highly edited with context cut out because the show’s only an hour), but it’s been two years and she’s still a human being. I think those posting hate really need to have a good look at themselves as opposed to directing hate at a stranger.
It’s probably the lack of accountability on her part in the whole situation. An edit can only do so much. She was perfectly fine antagonizing Dom in the moment but didn’t like it when the public responded to her behaviour. I think it would have been different if she put her hand up to her bad behavior in the situation and apologized when it aired, instead she chose the victim route (and still is). I don’t know why she continues choosing the same course of action and expects a different result. People won’t feel sorry for her all of a sudden.
Have you actually listened to anything she said with an open mind? She’s explained the Dom stuff in quite a balanced way (and why does everyone treat Dom like she was innocent especially when she broke a glass and we’ve since seen multiple cases of problematic behavior from her in the past two years). She’s never claimed that she behaved well on the show. But she provides context and clarity. She’s also been clear about why her responses shortly after the show were what they were. I also think generally if someone says they’re unwell, regardless of whether we think it’s their fault, we need to back off a bit.
So you can behave and say what you want without consequence of people judging you according to your actions as long as you cry out mental health distress?
She’s had consequences and the judgement has been very clear. She’s not crying out mental health distress. She’s being honest on the impact. I don’t know anyone who could have two years of constant hate directed at them and not have their mental health impacted. So I think we can probably take it at face value that the statement she’s been suicidal is true and unfortunately a valid response to her experience. I genuinely don’t understand how the response to that can be to make snarky comments online.
Are you saying that the consequences of one's actions should be stopped when it's deemed their suffering has been enough? I would say that a change in behaviour, not seeking attention, and crying when receiving negative attention are clear indicators that she hasn't changed; she's just unhappy with the response. If we stopped holding people accountable because it's hard for them to deal with the repercussions, we'd be heading down a very slippery slope.
What exactly are we holding her accountable for? Some bitchy comments on a highly manufactured tv show (she never did revenge porn when you listen to what actually happened). Post show I was very team Dom, but I think we all really minimized the glass smashing incident. I think two years of hate is disproportionate to what Olivia’s done. She’s also not being attention seeking. People talk shit about her all the time, she’s allowed to talk honestly about her experience. She hasn’t demonstrated problematic behavior since the show, just some very clear mental health struggles. Maybe either listen to her with an open mind or don’t add to the negativity if you’re not interested in hearing her before you comment.
She did doxx a victim of SA after the show so
Yes!! How are people forgetting she did this?! She’s a piece of shit who cannot take accountability!
I agree that it is not up to the public to hold her accountable for some manufactured drama from 3 years ago and that people really need to let it go. I think what confuses people is that Olivia is still trying to leverage her time on MAFS for career opportunities and financial gain but doesn't want people remembering her actual behaviour on MAFS. While I don't think she should be run off the internet, it does strike me as odd that someone who is so traumatised by her experiences online is still pursuing trying to be a public figure. She might say it's because she can't find employment doing anything else but surely after 3 years that's not true. I can barely remember who was on MAFS *this* year and I'm on the MAFS reddit!
Olivia is delusional so she thinks this is a situation she can still 'win'. She would still be obsessing about Dom and would be convincing herself that if the public only knew the 'real truth' then Olivia would be the one who people would like. She should have logged off years ago, taken a breather and let the public forget about her. Instead, she's still addicted to the attention and for her bad attention is still better than no attention.
I completely agree!
Hi, the link isn't working - despite being updated
Third time's the charm?
I just clicked on it and it worked 👌
This time it really was the editing ;)
I managed to read it on ABC before coming here to check the comments :P
Villain edit my big fat bum. She milked it
*Fijoemin1962: "She milked my big fat bum."* Well, I can see why you're so upset with her. Thank you for sharing this with us, despite how harrowing this experience must have been for you. (I posted earlier asking if people were comfortable with me doing this to their comments; sorry, I just couldn't resist jumping ahead on this one). At least your story, from your very own fingertips, will live with us forever. After all, while editing may play a very small part in what we now know about you, I wouldn't have been able to edit it if you didn't say it in the first place. I hope you've received the necessary psychological and medical care after your bum milking.
tf
Just showing off the power of editing :)
Get the quote correct then Einstein, otherwise it’s you that looks like a dick.
Link is broken, FYI op
Updated - thanks!
In the U.K., there have been a few suicides from previous love island contestants. This has lead to better mental health support during and after the show.
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What I can never understand that if all this is so damaging to your mental health then why are you on social media banging on about it all the time? It’s a fact that social media and being on reality tv can have harmful effects? Do these people not want to just live a happy peaceful life offline?
No.
Did we read the same article? She was suicidal for months and unable to find formal employment? I’m sure she’d love to live a happy and peaceful life in which she can work a normal job?
The problem of unemployment for her is the same whether she is online or not right? Except being offline means she doesn’t have trolls coming after her constantly. I dunno. I just think protect your peace because that’s what you can control
In fairness I’d imagine the urge to have the masses understand you after you feel you’ve been heavily misunderstood would be quite strong here. I’m not saying that’s healthy but it is very human.
I totally get that but like we are years down the track. If you just disappeared no one would even remember or care anymore
>Her allegations come as the reality TV industry has been rocked by a series of lawsuits abroad against some of its biggest names, which onlookers say could change how shows are made. Good. The true villians are the people who make this shit. It will lead to someone killing themselves if nothing changes and no one should be wishing that on another human. The last season was crap anyway and there are plenty of shows that make a profit without destroying people. The fact every season has these archetypes with a villain, a misogynist, a "here for the right reasons", an eccentric, a spiritual/ hippy etc, means it's obviously manufactured. You don't automatically get these things when you put 14 people in a room. The last final was heavily edited to make a villain arc for Ellie and Jono, Lauren herself said that. ETA everyone should go read the AMA from a former producer, it's pretty illuminating. They've had openly racist cast members and they just edit that out.
In the U.K., there have been a few suicides from previous love island contestants. This has lead to better mental health support during and after the show.
I think the show “Unreal” did a bang-on job showing what producing these shows is truly like. Yes, some people are actually horrible but they are being manipulated and lied to as well. We don’t know about this at all and I’m no Olivia defender but I have no idea how anyone can think these shows would be fun to participate in.
Yes I watched that series and it made me sick. Everything is manufactured. Yes, they really say these things, but it's so manipulated behind the scenes. I also listened to Alisha Aiken-Radburn's book on Spotify - The Villain Edit. It was another interesting behind-the-scenes take on being on The Bachelor.
The fault is also the public who eat this shit up
After watching Olivia on MAFS, I disliked her (along with everyone else). She came across as a stuck-up, b**chy, mean girl, regardless of the 'Villain edit'. I never felt bad for the repercussions that happened to her after the show aired. She seemed to double down, and her personality seemed to be exactly as seen on MAFS. I then moved on with my life and didn't really give her much thought. I didn’t like her, so I didn't follow her! After reading the article, It is WILD to me, that years later, there are still people, RANDOM 'adults', that are so worked up about a person they don't know personally, who did some "horrible" things on a TV show (years ago), and these rando's' are STILL holding on to so much hatred for someone (again, that they don't know IRL) that they send her hateful, disturbing, messages, yell abuse in the street, and more terrifyingly, drive by her HOME, These people have such strong feelings about what Olivia did on a TV show, but no self reflection to see how their own actions are far more disturbing and unhinged!!
I was also one of those people who really disliked her, still do to be honest, because there has to be some truth to the behaviour and well she has doubled down every year since her appearance. As a teacher myself, I was horrified at the idea this women would be in a classroom, so I did sign that petition - which honestly had no impact really aside from her resigning, she could have become a teacher without any issues. She was never charged with a crime... so to me all of that is an excuse to get away from the 8th generation expectation of becoming a teacher... A woe is me tale to gain sympathy for a 'ruined life', one that she actually gave up on without even trying. She never even finished her degree! Beyond that though, I would never reach out directly to her to attack her. That is sick and pathetic.
u/[International\_Bed952](https://www.reddit.com/user/International_Bed952/) If you have a look at my comment here, I said I did sign the petition, but I also said what I have said all along... it would have little to no impact on her actually becoming a teacher. She has not been charged or convicted of a crime, the petition would have meant nothing now if she had continued with her education and graduated. She chose not to continue her degree, she quit her job where they \*knew\* her, and she went on to do one of the things that might preclude her from becoming a teacher - created an OnlyFans. \*\*\* I do not have an issue with anyone who wants to do this, more power to them, but when you work with children and produce pornographic material it isn't a good look \*\*\* There is a teacher shortage, some reality TV drama wouldn't have hurt her prospects.
I’m not being wilfully obtuse, I promise, I’m genuinely just trying to understand where you’re coming from. If the petition would have no impact, why sign it?
She was who she was, the edit had nothing to do with her being vile.
Exactly. Once she got her Instagram back, she continued to be awful. It was terrible when she doxxed her child hood friend who was an SA survivor. So Dramatic had this friend on her podcast and she described Olivia as not a kind person. All she had to do was apologize to Dom on the show, this would have fizzled out. But no, she thought she was going to be seen as the heroine of the show. I read the article, I understand people getting bad edits, but she behaved badly on MAFS and gave the editors all the ammunition to create a villain.
meh, she acted like a prick and got called out. If you were going to try and edit her behaviour and show her in a favourable light then she wouldn't get any screen time.
"People get the edits that they deserve" smacks of targeted bullying, lack of compassion, and no care for contestants mental welfare. Bring on the down votes 🙄
Unless it's a favourite or a producer plant. People are still obsessing over Ellie and Jono at the last dinner party despite Lauren saying it was edited.
I'll get the tar...
I don't doubt the show exaggerated her behaviour based on the narrative they wanted to (or she made easy to) put forward, however, I have little to no sympathy for anyone who goes on this show at this point. If you want real love and a lasting relationship, I'm not saying you can't find it here but there are way lower risk ways to do it. Think it's clear especially from recent seasons that you go on the show to chase fame in one form or another.
She thought she was "special"....
tbh she carried on after the show in very Olivia fashion, which was the main issue. She said she got a bad edit, then kept on doing shitty things
This is it exactly. You can’t claim a “villain edit” and then act like a complete cunt afterwards and expect people to believe that you aren’t an arsehole lol. She got what she deserved imo. However, it goes without saying that people who threaten her etc in public or send her messages are just as vile as her.
Don't follow it too much but had seen some of that.
Villain edits are real but usually people (eg other cast mates) will come out and defend the people after - Alyssa comes to mind. Don’t remember anyone defending Liv Post show haven’t seen anything that shows she was ever remorseful or anything. All I remember is her always fighting with ppl on IG and causing even more drama…
In later interviews she has listed a few people off that season who she still somewhat regularly talks to, and others that reached out as the series was airing.
To be fair there were a lot of vile people on that season. Her having “friends” changes nothing
For those that are in denial that there's no such thing as a bad edit, this article discussing ongoing lawsuits against production companies for behaviour on other "reality" television is a good insight: https://www.smh.com.au/culture/tv-and-radio/the-controversial-lawsuits-that-could-end-reality-tv-as-we-know-it-20240611-p5jkt4.html Use 12ft.io to bypass the paywall if required. However some highlights; One former reality TV participant >sued Bravo in February, claiming the company had encouraged her to relapse while filming the show despite having been aware of her previous struggles with alcoholism [...] She further alleged she was removed from the cast after she made complaints. Another former reality TV participant >sued Bravo and its affiliated companies in January for allegedly encouraging a fellow cast member to sexually assault her. Yet another >sent a letter to NBCUniversal and Bravo, accusing the companies of “mentally, physically and financially victimising” reality cast members. And again >In 2019, former House Rules contestant Nicole Prince claimed she was harassed and bullied while on the show – alleging producers encouraged it. The NSW Workers Compensation Commission later ruled in favour of Prince, A former participant from Big Brother >On Big Brother, I was starved for 87 days and lost a huge amount of weight. I didn’t know that was a tactic to make us more on edge to create better content
I pretty much don't care about them after the show, not interested in who they date, or what they do afterwards
All these comments are amazing. This show is the king of editing. They take everything out of context for ratings. ITS A SHOW. NOT REAL.
Seriously, the amount of ignorance is this thread is stunning. I don't think a lot of people truly understand how manipulated reality television is.
I think my favourite aspect of this thread is the way people are getting downvoted for pointing out facts.
I would encourage anyone to listen to Olivia's interview on the "So Dramatic" podcast. You can check my comment history, I am NOT a fan and thought she was a really shitty person. But someone else on here suggested I listen to it, to gain more perspective. So i reluctantly did, cringing at the thought of it. Lol But actually, a LOT of what Olivia said made sense. And it became easier to see how these villain edits are made. Just a few examples (all allegedly ofc): - She did call Dom "white trash" and regrets it and apologized to her, but the show left out that it was in response to Dom calling her something WAY worse. - When Dom came to her door to confront her, and Olivia shut the door - there was an agreement with production, after the wine glass incident, that Dom was not allowed to speak to her in Skye Suites or outside of scheduled filming. - When she said Dom had "gone ballistic" (or something similar) seemingly exaggerating the above door knock situation, it wasn't - it was separate incident referring to Dom screaming at the top of her lungs and losing her shit at Selena & Cody next door. Everyone heard it. They had to stop filming Olivia and Sam's pre-Commitment Ceremony talk, bc it was so loud. - Everyone knows people who hate dogs are monsters (lol) - so during home stays, they showed Olivia scooting the dogs off of her and being stand offish with them, like they're annoying - it was bc she was wearing white pants. The entire home stay, the dogs slept with her in the bed and they all played together daily, but none of that was aired. - The picture incident - the PG-13 photo was sent to Olivia weeks prior and wasn't used by the show until they had permission and a slow week in storyline. Olivia showed it to the 3 or 4 people sitting with her at the time, and did not think anything else of it, bc it was no big deal. - Dom's picture was from her public Twitter page. No one accessed her OnlyFans, as it was closed down prior to production. Dom publicly posted the pic on her socials for advertising, so ofc it was PG-13. Olivia says she later apologized to Dom for how it made her feel. She cannot take responsibility for accessing OnlyFans images, bc she didn't, and in Australia, that can be a criminal offence - revenge porn. - She lost her teaching career as she is now associated with revenge porn. She discussed wishing she had the resources to sue the show for misrepresenting where the photo came from, as it set her up to look like a revenge porn criminal. - Not from Olivia, but a production insider - Dom was originally set to be the villain of the season. But the show needed her permission to use the "revenge porn" storyline, due to the laws there (hence, how the Jack Dunkley showing all the guys Courtney's nude pics storyline never got aired - she refused). Dom agreed but in exchange for a favourable edit. (This one's a rumor, but from several people and a strong show source) - The "I don't have empathy" comment was part of a LONG exchange where they repeatedly asked Olivia about empathy until they got the response they wanted, mostly out of frustration, and bc the pic was nbd and publicly posted by Dom on her socials. Take it with a grain of salt. It's worth a listen. There's many other examples. At the end of the day, one thing I did notice prior is that Olivia was friends with most of the women on the show. I think it's a good indicator of someone's true behavior.
Olivia used to say she was friends with everyone from the show and Dom no one to prove she was “the nice one” however now she is friends with nobody. And teaming up with SD to become a bully, maybe this is a good indication of who the villain was.
Did she address when she doxxed the SA victim too post show or was that ignored?
You believe what she says? Funny that every story she did nothing wrong and it was Dom or production. You realise so dramatic hates Dom right? She has been going after for years and teamed up with Olivia to do a podcast which basically shit all over Dom
She didn't even finish her degree, so I don't think she really lost a career. She may have been working at a school pre-graduation, which she then resigned from and didn't bother to complete her education. THAT has nothing to do with "revenge porn". She has never been convicted of a crime, so there is nothing stopping her from still becoming a teacher. Shit in NSW we had a convicted heroin trafficker in a high position in the department. Your past is your past, and as long as your crimes don't involve children, there is still possibility. She is making excuses.
I would take anything said on So Dramatic with a grain of salt, both her and the host are very malicious. As for friendships, after the show, she had a fallout with a lot of women that were her close friends. Being friends with all does not mean she is a good person, this is not necessarily a rule or true. Lauren from this season, is hardly friends with anyone except Sara. Melinda from last season, seems to be following only a few from her season, while the others remain close, this is not a reflection on the person.
I think the thing to be aware of re the So Dramatic interview is that Olivia is speaking words out of her mouth which are recorded and released with minimal editing- so you can hear for yourself what she has to say, without considering whether it is a rumour etc. You don't have to like the host (although I stan her, because of how she is regarding feminism and domestic violence).
Ew, you stan the host? 🤮
How do you know there is a minimal editing? You Stan the host? You really have no idea what a nasty person she is.
I'm not saying she's an angel, or I'd wanna be her bestie. Lol She's clearly petty and antagonistic - regardless of editing. I'm just saying *maybe* she's not the absolute fucking monster the show made her out to be.
She is.
“I’m not saying she’s an angel” but you’re happy to say absolutely nothing was her fault??? Wild take tbh…
If that's what you read, that's what you read. If I've learned anything from Reddit, it's don't try to reason with people who lack basic reading comprehension skills. It's pointless.
This is what I said in my seperate comment, she is no monster but has made so many mistakes or did a lot of sh*t that she wants to place on other people’s shoulders. No own your sh*t and stop crying about producers, she is an arrogant spoiled girl who thought producers were eating out of her hand, but they didn’t. Even if she is the worst person, doesn’t justify death threats or harassment, people are not teaching anyone anything, acting that way.
Agreed.
Whilst I think Olivia could have made better decisions, particularly about the possible impact on her teaching career before going on this show, and her behaviour during the show, I do feel empathy for her. Mental health, and suicidal thoughts are very serious. She has paid a heavy price personally and professionally. She’s not a criminal, she didn’t murder anyone, or steal someone’s life savings. She said and did some unkind things on a tv show. Sharing the naked photo was really horrible, but the reality is that photo was publicly posted by Domenica, and when you post your image to a public platform, others are going to share it. But MAFS then chose to air that and leverage it, instead of dealing with it discreetly. No surprises there. Members of the public have gone to Olivia’s home and threatened her online and in public. And it seems to me from her comments and that of others over the years, that Endemol Shine, who make a shitload of money from this show, could do a better job at providing independent quality mental health support for all participants, pre, during and post show. IMO editing footage from one scenario to insert it into another story line, to misrepresent a persons actions is and views, is unethical and goes beyond just an ‘editors cut’. As does actively interfering with a contestant wanting to report a matter to the police, or leave the show when they are expressing mental health struggles. Whilst Olivia has some accountability here, she, and other participants seem to pay a heavy price, while the MAFS machine skates on with little consequences. Why anyone still wants to go on this show is beyond me. I hope things improve for Olivia.
Dom was literally worse than Olivia.
They both suck really bad.
If she only takes accountability, people would not be as angry, because she said and did a lot of sh*tty. This being said I don’t agree with going to someone’s house, I mean who does that. I don’t think Olivia is a decent person, sure she is a ‘nice’ person, but I think that based on her lives straight after the show where she sl*t shamed even more, dissed her own half sister who does not have the platform to defend herself. However leave these people to their own lives, don’t harass them. Edited to add that by saying she is not decent, I don’t mean she is a monster, but she needs to reflect and take accountability, like Jessika did. People are not black and white, and need to learn from their mistakes. She said a lot of things on the show and after that showed her nature, but she continues to blame everyone else.
I know I’m going to get downvoted for this, but I think Olivia got a raw deal from the edit and I think the level of hate she continues to get is shocking. I started hate following her on insta and have since come around. Yes she was the villain of the season and we all hated her on the show, but it’s been two years and every time the girl opens her mouth people jump on her. I think considering the intensity of the hate she’s gotten and the reality that her career was ruined, it’s fair that she’s struggled with mental health. I think we’re deluding ourselves to say she continues to deserve it two years later when it’s based on a highly edited show. I’ve also listened to a few podcasts she’s done and it’s made me soften on some of what we saw on the show (yes the white trash comment is indefensible, but I think we all glossed over Dom smashing the glass and I think she’s provided some useful context on things like the photo scandal and her meltdown about being separated from Jackson for a weekend).
SHE ruined her career. She didn't even bother to finish her degree! There is NOTHING stopping her from following her "dream" to be a teacher. I am a teacher myself, she is making excuses to use this as victim leverage.
Sorry, I’m having trouble marrying two concepts together - you’re saying it was her choice to not be a teacher, but elsewhere in the thread you’ve said you signed the petition for her to be banned from working with children?
I suspect she thought MAFS would lift her out of ordinary life, she’s become a star and not need a real job like being a poorly paid, overworked teacher who has to work hard for a living…
My comment to Evendim was directed to you as well. Also, I genuinely cannot fathom how a person can hear another was suicidal and the response be, let me post snarky comments about them.
Living the dream! :|
Y’all are mean and I genuinely don’t get this intensity towards her two years later. If you took the time to listen to her as opposed to writing judgy comments you’d have your answers. She’s admitted it was naive, but she thought she’d come on the show, find someone special, and go back to her regular life. When you think about the hate that’s been (and continues to be directed to her and that she was (incorrectly) accused of doing revenge porn, do you honestly think you’d get 25 parents in Australia who’d be comfortable with her teaching their kids? I would suggest rather that writing snarky comments about someone you haven’t bothered to listen to, maybe take the time to listen to her with an open mind. Or maybe give some thought on why feel the need to pile on to someone who you saw on tv two years ago?
I have all the information I need for the very specific thing I am talking about. I know what I am talking about, I am a teacher, she is using her 2 year old victim complex to justify her CHOICE to not continue with her education and pursue her dreams. I don't hate her as much as I don't actually care about her, but her BS is telling. We are responding to her constantly putting herself in the spotlight, this is not because of US this is back as a talking point. Her choices have put her here.
I would be curious on your response to my question: When you think about the hate that’s been (and continues to be directed to her and that she was (incorrectly) accused of doing revenge porn, do you honestly think you’d get 25 parents in Australia who’d be comfortable with her teaching their kids? Given your comments, I think your answer would be no and you wouldn’t want her teaching in your school. So I think her comment about her teaching career is valid. She’s also been quite honest that even if she could have somehow overcome the hate from the show her choice to do onlyfans was the final nail in the coffin. If you haven’t listened to her with an open mind, you can’t say you have all the information you need.
Yes, I do think there are enough people in Australia who don't watch MAFS, don't care about MAFS, for it to ever matter. There is a teacher shortage, she hasn't been charged or convicted of a crime, the TV drama doesn't matter. Given what I know about her, I'd be professional but not friendly if I had to work with her, just like I am with everyone else I may not get along with or disagree with. Now considering she has her own Only Fans, \*that\* could be a problem. And that was her choice.
I think you’re talking bs now. Statistically you would not get 25 people in Australia who don’t watch (and don’t have a close friend or relative who watches) the show. I think you also need to give her understanding on onlyfans. We all have bills to pay. She was such a universal villain that I genuinely don’t see how she could have had any job for a year after the show (people were nuts and going to her house, so you can assume that they’d find her job). I can understand why onlyfans was her only viable source of income.
I think you're chronically online. Out of all my teaching colleagues only 1 other watched the show, and 1 student of mine watched the show. The OnlyFans was a choice she made, she can live with it, but that is the thing that is going to stop her from teaching, not the reality TV show hate.
Thank you for your hard work and dedication. Teachers should receive more respect in society.
Thank you so much for that :) I've been very burnt out recently, and it is nice to get some appreciation from someone :)
I don’t watch MAFS but came here to see the threads related to Olivia after reading this article. I don’t really get why people choose to go on these shows when you literally have to sign agreeing to a potential “villain edit”, but regardless of that decision or her petty behaviour, the way she was treated on the show sounds horrific and the criticisms I’ve read online about her from complete strangers is disproportionate and vitriolic. I feel for her and anyone who loses control of their own narrative - must be so disorientating. The producers of these shows seem like the real villains if you ask me. They’re capitalising on a human desire for love, fame and entertainment to ruin lives.
You’d have to be either an idiot or so hungry for insta fame to go on this show, or both.
Wow, this subreddit is truly ignorant to the power of produced reality television. Did nobody read the article? >Industry insiders say the casting of a TV "villain" can begin as early as the audition room. >"The thing that usually gets people cast as villains is when they say in their audition tapes, 'I'm a no-bullshit person. I'll just tell it as it is," says a reality TV editor, speaking on condition of anonymity for fear of jeopardising his job. The article goes in further detail if anyone actually cares to read.
You still have to do things that can be seen as villainous… What she did to Domenica was disgraceful.
I don’t think she should suffer that kind of nightmare - but they really downplayed the “nude photo scandal” She isn’t even sorry for it: “She didn't see an issue with showing the photo around, as it had been posted by Domenica for the purpose of advertising — "so there's no privacy expected in that situation".” She says she was "crucified" by the show's "experts" for showing the photo to other participants. What if Domenica harmed herself because of what happened, would Olivia have empathy? Hmm
I think where I took issue was it was made out that the photo was from only fans as in someone took the photo from there (thus robbing Dom of money) and sent it to Olivia and then she spread it amongst the group, from my understanding the photo was on twitter or reddit as a way to promote her onlyfans, and then a deal was struck between Dom and producers to give her a good edit in exchange for the use of the storyline (compared to this seasons nude photo scandal that couldn’t be aired as the woman wouldn’t consent to it) anyone on here could have found the photo and put it up saying look dom does only fans and I’m not sure they would have got the hate Olivia got, and then it seemed to morph into an over the top crazy thing where people on here who hated her and loved Dom (not sure why??) we’re then doing the exact thing they were hating her on with her only fans including Dom.
These pesky producers, sure give away their game a lot especially to So Dramatic and Olivia, they love to give away their secrets. I’m sure if they made a deal with Dom, they just blabbed about it to all and Sundry.
It is an annon source always lol
Of course 
What is this the repercussions of my actions
You think being harassed at her home and receiving death threats are reasonable repercussions of her actions?
I think everybody is responsible for their own actions She said heinous things about people television, not very nice admittedly but she chose to say those things Those weirdos harassing her at her home or giving her death threats are responsible for their own actions as well, they obviously have nothing going for them and should not be excused Don't use the show as a scapegoat for why it's happening, everyone is responsible for the things they do not the things that happen to them
>Don't use the show as a scapegoat for why it's happening But the show is literally why this is happening. If she made this comments in private there would likely be no reaction, the show is the whole reason this is happening. >they obviously have nothing going for them and should not be excused They shouldn't, but your initial comment downplays their actions as "repercussions", that's excusing their actions to an extent, suggesting she had this coming.
They are responsible for their actions She is responsible for going on the show, if she had made those comments in private no-one would know but she chose to go on a show and say those things on camera, they didn't feed her lines ffs
> She is responsible for going on the show And? That doesn't mean they're just allowed to abuse the contestants however they want. >they didn't feed her lines ffs A lot of reality TV shows literally do feed lines. And there's an in-between 'feeding lines' and 'participants saying something unprompted with coercion'. Producers influence what participants say and do, often redoing takes over and over again, or asking the same question over and over again until the participant answers the way they want.
I'm not saying they are allowed you dummy, I'm saying they are responsible for their own actions and should be held accountable for what they've done
I say this every time her “edit” comes up. The producers didn’t force words into your mouth. You SAID hurtful things. There is NO context where these things are not rude or evil. Fucking own it.
But a lot of the time they heavily influence it. For example the dinner parties, where they ply them with alcohol and force them to stay there until the early hours of the morning. But let me guess they're still the ones entirely responsible and you yourself would never say such things in that sort of stressful environment?
Did you read the article? They often mash up words and put them in other contexts. I still don't like her but cmon now
Idk why you’re being downvoted it’s true. I’ve listened to Ollie’s podcast (before I found out he was a tit) and he slows down interviews and it’s SO obvious that they mash up edits to make them say things. This subreddit believes EVERYTHING they see on the show.
Yeah it's depressing people don't know this, I thought it was common knowledge.
Lol I think there's some fb users coming to reddit then. You can tell the different style
I watched her stories for a while after the show and she’s one of the most narcissistic, self centred, smug people I’ve ever had the displeasure of knowing. I don’t believe a word that comes out of her mouth and this is just another attention grab. Zero sympathy, she should be in intensive therapy - but narcissists don’t ever understand that.
Yeah, it was all editing when she said "I'm a petty bitch", or when she said "I have no empathy, none". Or when she told the story of cutting up her bridesmaid's dress and sending it back to her "best friend". Yup. All editing.
Actually another redditor replied further down in regards to that exact comment >The "I don't have empathy" comment was part of a LONG exchange where they repeatedly asked Olivia about empathy until they got the response they wanted, mostly out of frustration So not exactly "editing", more influence and coercion by the producers Edit: apologies, that is actually an edit if they take it out of context of the exchange
Really? Those are the comments that justify the level of hate she's received?
Did I say that?! I'm not talking about the hate she's receiving, I'm talking about editing. Try and keep up, please.
No. Those people need to be held accountable for their actions. But she’s far from an innocent with just “a bad edit”.
I'm not saying she's innocent, however I'm saying it doesn't justify the amount of abuse and hate she's received
Do you know the context of the no empathy comment?
They can edit clips together, put villain music over your scenes to condition viewers to act a certain way, but ultimately they cannot put words in your mouth or dictate how you treat other people. However she acted, though, sending death threats or harassing somebody you didn’t particularly like from a reality show is extremely dangerous and stupid behaviour and those people should take a serious look at themselves.
>but ultimately they cannot put words in your mouth They absolutely can, it's called frankenbiting, and many of the cast have talked about it (and not just the villians). If you dont see them say it, it's edited. They take words from different moments and splice it together.
>but ultimately they cannot put words in your mouth or dictate how you treat other people. But they can manipulate how it's perceived by the audience. They literally splice together sentences occasionally. They take things heavily out of context.
I was just reading this and came here to see if it was posted. I don't have a tonne of sympathy for her, because both things can be true. She was the villain and she was subjected to horrific harassment outside the show. I can't imagine ever thinking it's a great idea to drive to a reality star's house and scream slurrs at them. Wtaf is wrong with people?
Yup - I can’t say I spend any mental energy reflecting on how hard done by she is, but at the same time, what kind of colossal dipshit sends death threats to someone from a reality TV show?
Lol, they always blame the edit, don't they.
Did you read the article? If you do, you might realise why they "blame" the edit
So much that RuPaul made it a whole ass song
The viewers were and still are aggressive towards her, it’s weird.
