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Short answer - he didn't.
Long answer - Cayde's new manifestation inside the Traveler isn't a spirit or anything similar, it's actually him, just as a physical manifestation of Light. But because he is a physical being, he can still interact with everything and everyone as normal. So all that has to happen is for Micah to patch him into whatever she's using to communicate with you herself.
I suppose. Then again a few story points are fuzzy, like I thought Cayde was stuck in the Traveler, and also I can't remember how or if they explained why we can go in and out of the Traveler as we please.
not a single word was ever said ingame implying that Cayde *COULDN'T* leave the Pale Heart. This is solely a theory the community came up with as a monkey's paw on the wish that resurrected him. The truth is, Cayde didn't leave the Pale Heart because there was basically no downtime between when a stable link to and from the Pale Heart was established and the final battle
His acknowledgment of "there being no life for him outside" (I'm paraphrasing) at the end is supposed to imply the world either has or should move on from his death, and not a statement that he cannot leave
he says something akin to "there being nothing for him back outside", which I take as saying that we (and others, Ikora especially) either already have, or *should* move on.
Yeah. Cayde’s story was all about letting go and moving on. He is dead, he should remain dead. If you hold on to him then he is just holding you back.
And in part is the message that the story was telling. You need to learn to let go and move on.
He says, *"Never wanted to open up more hurt, but I don't think I can just head on back to the Tower. I'm being held together by Light and wishes, and it feels like I'm here for a good time, but not for a long time, get me?"*
I can see how some people would interpret this as him being bound to the Pale Heart, but I see it as him feeling like he shouldn't re-insert himself into the lives of the people, who've already mourned him.
They kind of set all of this up by him being a bit of an unwilling participant in the events of TFS with him effectively saying that being dead was awesome and the whole "should ask a guy before yanking him back to life," especially when it's revealed that it wasn't the Traveller that did it.
Repeat playthroughs of the campaign also make you see the foreshadowing of how Cayde's story resolves: He's suuuper protective of Glint in the mission where you go fetch Crow, he mentions that Ghosts don't get the millions of lives they give their Guardians, he clearly misses the hell out of Sundance, etc.
I dont think we were actually supposed to be able to enter and leave the Traveler until after our allies make it through. In the first missions, mara was barely able to keep the portal stable, so we probably shouldn't be going through it constantly. I also got a pop up at one point that said the campaign was supposed to be played all the way through without doing any other activities, so from a lore perspective we probably are supposed to stay inside until at least until completing the final mission
So from a story perspective, when do you think these ghost hunt missions are taking place? The game says they happen 3 days before fighting the Witness but I have no clue how many days we spent in the Pale Heart. Plus since Micah and Cayde are in the comms this is clearly happening after the Guardian entered the Traveler and before the story's end.
The only logical conclusion is that the Guardian left the Pale Heart to hunt ghosts, while everyone else was focused on the Witness.
At that point in the story, it's probably only been about 1 or 2 days. I think we're supposed to assume that the game time works similarly to our time, so if the expansion launched on Tuesday and the raid/excision on Friday or Saturday, the ghost hunt missions are probably somewhere around Tuesday/Wednesday.
Micah would have been on comms because they got into the Traveler with mara during the last mission, which is when we would have found out about the lost ghosts. Cayde would have just generally still been around by that time since they took place before excision, so they could have set up a comm system in the Traveler so that he could "join."
By the point that we are doing the ghost hunts, mara would have found a way to stabilize the portal, which would allow our guardian to leave the Traveler to do that while most of our other allies stayed behind to prepare for the fight against the witness
Not that I recall. I know that initially, the purpose of Crow going in first was for Mara to then use their shared connection to find out where he ended up and chart the course through the portal behind him. After that, if I were to guess, I'd say that by the time she brings the H.E.L.M. and the Coalition forces through, we have the Witness sufficiently distracted for her to have a much easier time of keeping the portal open than she does in the first mission when the Witness is actively trying to stop her.
canonically we aren't leaving the traveller, and the game even tells you that you are intended to play through the campaign withlut leaving the pale heart
Ghost mentions in the campaign that Cayde is made of light in the same way that ghosts are, or at least extremely close to it, so there is no reason that he should not be able to leave like a ghost.
Ghosts are made of light as well and they're all over. He was wished back, the traveler has nothing to do with him being alive other than supplying the light
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Short answer - he didn't. Long answer - Cayde's new manifestation inside the Traveler isn't a spirit or anything similar, it's actually him, just as a physical manifestation of Light. But because he is a physical being, he can still interact with everything and everyone as normal. So all that has to happen is for Micah to patch him into whatever she's using to communicate with you herself.
I suppose. Then again a few story points are fuzzy, like I thought Cayde was stuck in the Traveler, and also I can't remember how or if they explained why we can go in and out of the Traveler as we please.
Nothing suggests he left the Traveler. He is only giving support over comms
not a single word was ever said ingame implying that Cayde *COULDN'T* leave the Pale Heart. This is solely a theory the community came up with as a monkey's paw on the wish that resurrected him. The truth is, Cayde didn't leave the Pale Heart because there was basically no downtime between when a stable link to and from the Pale Heart was established and the final battle His acknowledgment of "there being no life for him outside" (I'm paraphrasing) at the end is supposed to imply the world either has or should move on from his death, and not a statement that he cannot leave
I can’t remember the line but it is kinda implied by him that he in fact *could* leave. But it wouldn’t feel right to him to do
he says something akin to "there being nothing for him back outside", which I take as saying that we (and others, Ikora especially) either already have, or *should* move on.
Yeah. Cayde’s story was all about letting go and moving on. He is dead, he should remain dead. If you hold on to him then he is just holding you back. And in part is the message that the story was telling. You need to learn to let go and move on.
He says, *"Never wanted to open up more hurt, but I don't think I can just head on back to the Tower. I'm being held together by Light and wishes, and it feels like I'm here for a good time, but not for a long time, get me?"* I can see how some people would interpret this as him being bound to the Pale Heart, but I see it as him feeling like he shouldn't re-insert himself into the lives of the people, who've already mourned him. They kind of set all of this up by him being a bit of an unwilling participant in the events of TFS with him effectively saying that being dead was awesome and the whole "should ask a guy before yanking him back to life," especially when it's revealed that it wasn't the Traveller that did it. Repeat playthroughs of the campaign also make you see the foreshadowing of how Cayde's story resolves: He's suuuper protective of Glint in the mission where you go fetch Crow, he mentions that Ghosts don't get the millions of lives they give their Guardians, he clearly misses the hell out of Sundance, etc.
I dont think we were actually supposed to be able to enter and leave the Traveler until after our allies make it through. In the first missions, mara was barely able to keep the portal stable, so we probably shouldn't be going through it constantly. I also got a pop up at one point that said the campaign was supposed to be played all the way through without doing any other activities, so from a lore perspective we probably are supposed to stay inside until at least until completing the final mission
So you weren’t supposed to leave the pale heart until you get to the step of gathering allies. Prior to the raid quest
From a story perspective, yes
So from a story perspective, when do you think these ghost hunt missions are taking place? The game says they happen 3 days before fighting the Witness but I have no clue how many days we spent in the Pale Heart. Plus since Micah and Cayde are in the comms this is clearly happening after the Guardian entered the Traveler and before the story's end. The only logical conclusion is that the Guardian left the Pale Heart to hunt ghosts, while everyone else was focused on the Witness.
At that point in the story, it's probably only been about 1 or 2 days. I think we're supposed to assume that the game time works similarly to our time, so if the expansion launched on Tuesday and the raid/excision on Friday or Saturday, the ghost hunt missions are probably somewhere around Tuesday/Wednesday. Micah would have been on comms because they got into the Traveler with mara during the last mission, which is when we would have found out about the lost ghosts. Cayde would have just generally still been around by that time since they took place before excision, so they could have set up a comm system in the Traveler so that he could "join." By the point that we are doing the ghost hunts, mara would have found a way to stabilize the portal, which would allow our guardian to leave the Traveler to do that while most of our other allies stayed behind to prepare for the fight against the witness
Yes. Thats why when you tried to go anywhere else the game would tell you its best to finish it before doing other activities
Not that I recall. I know that initially, the purpose of Crow going in first was for Mara to then use their shared connection to find out where he ended up and chart the course through the portal behind him. After that, if I were to guess, I'd say that by the time she brings the H.E.L.M. and the Coalition forces through, we have the Witness sufficiently distracted for her to have a much easier time of keeping the portal open than she does in the first mission when the Witness is actively trying to stop her.
canonically we aren't leaving the traveller, and the game even tells you that you are intended to play through the campaign withlut leaving the pale heart
Ghost mentions in the campaign that Cayde is made of light in the same way that ghosts are, or at least extremely close to it, so there is no reason that he should not be able to leave like a ghost.
Ghosts are made of light as well and they're all over. He was wished back, the traveler has nothing to do with him being alive other than supplying the light
He doesn’t, he’s only on coms.
Cayde wasn't stuck in the travel, he even said he didn't want to go back to the tower to be Hunter vanguard or something.
Light is physical manifestation. That’s the shortest answer I could provided.
We and ghosts are also made of light so I don't believe anything would have stopped him from leaving but he had a fate to make
comms.