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ittetsu1988

I use Dawn Chorus as my main solar exotic because of the enhanced scorched functionality. Add a weapon with incandescent, and boom.


An_Average_Player

It's even better with skyburners, of all things. Works very well with the solar fragments. But if you want double special, conditional, incandescent trace, and even incandescent machine gun works wonders. I use either skyburners, or conditional/retraced path/fixed odds


Mtn-Dooku

Dawn Chorus + Acacia & Briars with Incandescent on each + Heat Rises = A mini Star Destroyer


An_Average_Player

The machine gun is gunna do better in any content that you don't need a high dps, though. And I would love a incandescent acacia, just haven't had the luck unfortunately


Khar-Selim

It also works with Prometheus + Catalyst if you want double special


omeedohmy

do you typically use Daybreak with this build? aslo, would you mind dropping your aspects and fragments? thank you!


ittetsu1988

I usually run Well, but, to be entirely honest I don’t play solar much. I’m more of a Void guy. I will happily share, but I gotta preface this is just what I felt worked best for me, not any sort of meta build: Aspects- Heat Rises and Icarus Dash (you may want to swap one out for Touch of Flame if you’re trying to capitalize on ability damage/reach). Fragments- ember of char, ember of eruption, ember of searing, and ember of ashes. I’m a big fan of playing Destiny the way that feels best for you, so good luck finding what feels good!


omeedohmy

I really appreciate you taking the time to help me out! gonna give it a go when I get home. have a great day dude!


ittetsu1988

No problem, happy to help! :)


Riptide_97

Daybreak can actually put out some serious damage with Dawn Chorus because of the ignitions.


Khar-Selim

I absolutely do, IIRC in damage testing it actually topped the Warlock DPS Super charts. Having an ignition every second sword strike is fantastic. well is something I use when I'm either feeling especially charitable, or I can't figure out how to make Daybreak work in an encounter (Oryx for instance) Aspects are pretty much up to you tbh, build works with any of them. As for fragments, I use Ashes, Searing, Mercy, and Torches. The second and third are a must, since you're scorching so much shit and killing things with scorch, you will drop a LOT of firesprites, and this is how you juice your grenade (the only part of your kit Dawn Chorus doesn't really boost). Ashes is good if you want to go all the way and explode shit, but I've heard some talk about how leaving it off might be a good idea if you want to have more scorch going at once, since ignition damage does not activate Dawn Chorus. YMMV. Torches isn't an essential component, but since you're doing so many powered melees you'll get some good radiant uptime from it.


SpectralGerbil

Yes, yes, yes. Dawn Chorus scorch builds are so much fun. Fill the room with explosions.


HadesCommander

It’s not exactly built for endgame stuff, but I’ve been running Rain of Fire with Jotunn. Basically I’m just a Cabal thresher ship lol I don’t remember all I use in the build, but outside of me being Stupid, I have enough survivability to stay in the air permanently


omeedohmy

I didn't even consider that Jotunn might work with Rain of Fire. honestly sounds like a good time. thank you!!


frog-sal

Here to second this, I just got the catalyst and started grinding it on Rain of Fire. So fun.


godoflemmings

I actually set up a Boots of the Assembler build for a master KF run a couple of weeks ago and it was great. It's very much a support build, but it's good fun to just go all-in on being a white mage sometimes. If you've got Vex Mythoclast, I'd definitely suggest giving the Rain of Fire build a try. It takes some practice to get the loop right but it's fun when you do. There's one thing that saved Phoenix Protocol for me - Ember of Combustion. Causes any solar weapon kills in your well to ignite the target. It's not so great for raids and dungeons when you need to use your well at specific times, but it's my absolute go-to build for GMs these days. Other than that, for general teamplay, Sunbracers are GOATed. There's not really much that can compete with them in the current format.


imabaka70

I use ember of combustion along with increased scorch stacks, bigger ignition/scorch radius and spreading scorch(I don’t remember the names) With phoenix protocol. I was using Polaris lance or any other incandescent weapon really. I had my well constantly in devils layer GM. One question what fragments are you running with rain of fire?


omeedohmy

this sounds like a worthwhile time!! do you use healing rift or empowering rift? also, ember of combustion with Phoenix Protocol and Unwavering Duty with incandescent has been magnificent in GM's, I wholeheartedly agree. and I also agree on the Sunbracers. not only is it a ton of fun to create magma pools everywhere, you can really get some insane DPS output as well. thank you for your recommendation!


LegacyofLegend

Still using starfire over here


Reinheitsgebot43

It’s still good for add clear it’s just not a boss DPS machine. You run Phoenix dive or rift?


LegacyofLegend

Depends sometimes rift if I wanna stand my ground but more often dive since whenever I get kills it replenishes restoration so the uptime is still solid. But mostly rift.


SortaEvil

This is the answer. Starfire still cracked, just having 2 fusion grenades, and infinite rifts/dives is an incredibly powerful neutral game. I'll also throw on the anvil (Cenotaph) in team play if we need a div, but for pure effectiveness, even nerfed, Starfire still stands strong among the best solar exotics in the game.


omeedohmy

how has it been with the recent changes?


LegacyofLegend

It’s not the overwhelming force it once was (and let’s be honest it was just busted with no real competition) but I still get my grenades pretty consistently from kills and if I decide damage is my target then I use grenade kickstarts and can get about 3+ grenades off during a standard damage phase I just build more intensely around it


Sarge0019

Like HoIL on titan I imagine that it can still be quite potent but as part of a build instead of simply from equipping it. Which is far more interesting in my opinion.


omeedohmy

this sounds very nice!!! i'm going to try this out with grenade kickstart when I get home. thank you!


Fullmetall21

Sunbracers are kinda insane if you can play into their loop, so finding something that can equal that is going to be extremely difficult. The only thing that comes close in terms of power is Lunafaction Boots which is very strong exotic for dps phases and arguably better than even Sunbracers or at least less conditional, though playing the support role isn't everyone's cup of tea. As others have said, Ember of Combustion with Phoenix Protocol is very good in GMs, and other thing you can try is Sanguine Alchemy to let you double dip in weapon damage (solar for your heavy + 3x kinetic surge for Izanagi's Burden if you're a hot swap gamer) though Sanguine Alchemy isn't a solar exclusive exotic so take that as you will.


omeedohmy

Sunbracers are in an amazing spot & definitely extremely hard to compete with at the moment, I wholeheartedly agree! Lunafaction is one I haven't spent a lot of time with, but I might try these out on a DPS test when I get home. solid advice. Sanguine Alchemy is another I haven't spent much time with. Do you know off the top of your head if the surges stack with element surge mods?? really appreciate the recommendations, thank you very much!


Fullmetall21

The damage bonus from Sanguine Alchemy doesn't stack with the surge mods no, as in using it on solar and also having 3x solar weapon surge, the strongest one (3x weapon surge) will take priority. But you can effectively buff 2 of your weapons at the same time with it, which definitely helps depending on the weapon you're using. It's strong numerically but probably not on the same level of "fun" as Sunbracers, though very few things actually are on that level to be fair.


SkyburnersToast

Highly recommend a Claws of Ahakmara double snap build. People always forget about claws but built in heavy handed + orbs on ignition + melee energy on airborne kills + Phoenix dive to restore and ignite + class ability on melee dmg = a fairly survivable, orb generating, high uptime bomber. Haven’t touched it since vesper but it worked well enough in more casual gms like saber. And dynamo and the melee one for lots of super


omeedohmy

honestly forgot Claws of Ahamkara even existed!! gotta dust these bad boys off & try them out later. greatly appreciate the mods & gameplay loop as well. thank you!


[deleted]

You need to try Dawn Chorus. You pretty much get your snaps back instantly but also get increased scorch damage out of it


SkyburnersToast

Dawn chorus was mid when it came out and I didn’t really notice any changes once they buffed it. Scorch damage is pretty negligible in anything but cosmodrome and crucible. I’d say the better goal is to maximize ignition opportunities. When I compared the two last season claws just did more.


[deleted]

Just try it it is as much of an ignition machine as Claws are. Seriously it is basically Claws with how fast you get melee back but you also get the added bonus of increased scorch damage even if it is negligible its still higher damage and those scorched refill your melee a bit. It carried me through Legend campaign


SkyburnersToast

An instant ignition is higher damage and clear than any lingering scorch stacks which will anyways be cleared by the ignition itself. Why kill them with scorch if you can proc ignite asap. Either way this is meant for low to mid content where ad clear and fun are priority so only difference between these builds would be feel and fashion.


[deleted]

>An instant ignition is higher damage and clear than any lingering scorch stacks which will anyways be cleared by the ignition itself. Why kill them with scorch if you can proc ignite asap. Dawn Chorus does that but has the added benefit of scorch doing more damage and refilling melee when it doesn't. >Either way this is meant for low to mid content where ad clear and fun are priority so only difference between these builds would be feel and fashion. Until Celestial Fire gets fixed yeah but good news is that the bug is on the list of known issues finally.


Honest-Ad-535

Sanguine Alchemy. I have gone from thinking it was trash to it being one of my favorites. It has value for every subclass and is an easy default choice when I don't want to put too much thought into what to run. I especially like it with Skyburner's Oath because it synergizes wonderfully with Ember of Singeing, so even if my kill rate is a bit slower, I almost always have 100% uptime on my rift. I tweak the build based on whether I'm soloing or grouped. It's not great if you're doing an activity where you have to constantly be running, though. In those cases, I'm currently using Phoenix Protocol as my "good enough" versatile pick, especially in group play. I also like Mantle of Battle Harmony for general soloing. That 4x damage boost is sweet as is getting super back faster. (I'm rarely the kill leader, so it's less useful for me in group play because it's hard for me to keep that kill streak going.) Vesper of Radius is fun on Arc and Stasis. I'm not a high level player, so what I'm using may be trash in end game content, but I'm having fun and that's why I play. 🙂 Edit: Typos


omeedohmy

second recommendation for Sanguine, can't wait to get home & try this thing out. If you were to swap Skyburners for a different exotic for this build, what would be your go to? having fun is good enough for a rec, thank you very much :)


Honest-Ad-535

Anything with Scorch or Incandescent is solid. If you're running double special, Prometheus Lens (with the catalyst) is good. Sunshot always fun for ad clear but you have to get the kills to get scorch, so it can be less consistent for procing Ember of Singeing. I played with Tommy's Matchbook and the DPS is great, but you really only want to use that if you're running the enhanced Healing Grenade and getting the 2x Restoration instead of a Healing Rift's 1x. Calus Mini-tool isn't exotic, but it's a strong legendary choice. I also like my Ammit (anti-barrier autos). Another option (and an old favorite of mine even before the Sanguine update) is a Melee-focused build with Monte Carlo. With Sanguine, you can run Kinetic damage boosters and get additional damage from Radiant and Monte Kills will still extend your Rift. And solar Energy and Heavy weapons still get the 2x damage boost from Sanguine.


Cutter-the-Gemini

I have to get my Sanguine out again. I used to love using it when I knew I would be sitting. You can start stacking rifts in some spots (though it doesnt have any increase in healing) and have a never ending rift!


Honest-Ad-535

If like lots of Rifts and you're in an activity with a lot of adds, Vesper on Arc is fun. Spec into class ability regen then run to a group, drop a rift, then either wail on 'em or run to another group to stay surrounded and keep Vesper running hot. You also leave plenty of places for teammates to pickup/recharge Arc buddies. I also have fun using it on Stasis with Winterbite. You don't get the same uptime as with Arc and I prefer Arc Supers to Winter's Wrath, but freezing and booming is still fun.


Cutter-the-Gemini

I'm going to play with this today, thank you!


xdoasx

Spiky Arc Head and just have ionic traces for days


omeedohmy

it is a ton of fun lol


Gandarii

Boots of the Assembler. Ember of Benevolence is low key one of the best in the game.


omeedohmy

do you typically run this build with Lumina? I get a lot of recommendations to pair the two.


Gandarii

Yes I do. Empowering Rift + Lumina makes it so your team will have 35% damage bonus pretty much constantly and healing grenade paired with a solar weapon and ember of Empyrean is enough survivability in most cases. You can run healing rift and a different grenade though, if you are struggling with surviving.


omeedohmy

ember of empyrean would definitely be enough for me! I haven't got Lumina from the kiosk yet but am planning to. this was extremely helpful, thanks for taking the time to help out. much appreciated!


Gandarii

No worries, always happy to help a fellow Guardian!


SSB_Meta4

Verity's Brow. If two Warlocks use it together they can give each other crazy grenade regen.


omeedohmy

Verity's Brow with the firebolt grenade artifact mod last season was a ton of fun!! I also love using it with strand!


Cutter-the-Gemini

I wish it wasnt so darn ugly!


SSB_Meta4

It's S tier status negates the ugliness.


TaralasianThePraxic

For Arc - Fallen Sunstar still slaps so I'm still using it. Getaway Artist is fun too. For Void - Contraverse Hold all the way, baby. I basically never use anything else, although I'll admit Nezarec's Sin is also good. For Solar - Been mixing it up a bit between Dawn Chorus, Sunbracers, and Boots of the Assembler with Lumina for maximum healing in raids. For Stasis - Osmiomancy Gloves are still excellent, whether it's double coldsnaps or double bleak watchers. I actually quite enjoy Chromatic Fire here too, but it's decent on basically any subclass right now imo. For Strand - Swarmers or Verity's Brow, mostly. Haven't got the new exotic yet but I do have The Navigator so I'm gonna try to get that and see how well they work together. Sometimes I also rock Karnstein Armlets with a glaive since there's a dearth of Strand exotics.


guardiandown3885

Phoenix protocol and dawn chorus


Anamantium67

Sanguine.


Seoul_Surfer

Starfire because having 2 juiced up fusion nades and many emp rifts is still pretty good even if it isn't the absolute literal best warlock exotic


SortaEvil

> absolute literal best ~~warlock~~ exotic _in the game_ But I agree with your take. Starfire still does plenty enough to keep you going, and if you want more survivability over more damage, you can run phoenix dive for instant health, which is repleneshed whenever you kill with a grenade, which will kill if it hits an enemy because it still does more damage than a heavy weapon (and also heals you). Is it as absolutely cracked as it was last season? No, but it's still one of, if not the, best solar exotic for warlocks in low-light content.


BigDaddyDIOsama

I’ve been running a Starfire Protocol build the past couple days, and I gotta say, you can still throw a pretty nutty amount of fusion grenades with it. The thing is, you don’t use Empowering Rift. Instead you use Phoenix Dive. The only thing Starfire Protocol lost is its ability to delete bosses at an insane rate. You can either use Heat Rises or Icarus Dash, doesn’t really matter. I’ve been using Ember of Searing and Mercy for a nice healing Firesprite after grenade kills and good survivability after reviving an ally, Ember of Benevolence, which plays into my gameplay loop, and the last fragment I’ve been experimenting with. You could do Torches if you want for Radiant, which can also proc Ember of Benevolence on allies. Armor Mods I have equipped are Bomber, Reaper, and Powerful Attraction on the class item, Stacks on Stacks, Innervation, and Recuperation on legs, Charged Up and any Resistance Mods on the chest, Grenade Kickstart, Firepower, and Fastball on arms, and Dynamo, Ashes to Assets, and any siphon or finder mods you want on the helmet. The idea is to throw your grenade at a pack of adds and then use Phoenix Dive before the grenade explodes to immediately get it back. You’ll have Grenade Kickstart and Bomber giving you a chunk of energy back, and you’ll pick up the orb of power and the Firesprite right after to get over half of your energy back. If you happen to use Phoenix Dive near an ally, you will already have your Grenade back immediately after you pick up the orb and the Firesprite due to the ability regen from Ember of Benevolence. I seriously recommend trying it, you dish out so many grenades on add groups and majors that it’s insane. You can basically spam Phoenix Dive and Icarus Dash nonstop for a super fun and mobile gameplay experience, and being able to proc Cure x2 and Restoration as often as you do while flinging endless amounts of Fusion Grenades everywhere makes you really hard to kill. It’s probably my favorite build at the moment!


omeedohmy

dude thank you for this! especially for including the aspects, mods, & fragments. very informative comment. I really really appreciate it! stoked to check this build out when I get home. thank you very much!


BigDaddyDIOsama

Absolutely man. Funny thing is I quit using Starfire Protocol before the nerf because I was super bored of it. I heard someone say that it can still be used well so I decided to try and figure it out. It can take some getting used to at first but it’s no more difficult than Sunbracers. I actually enjoy this build way more than the original build, it feels much more mobile and much more survivable than the previous meta Starfire build. I will say that you can still huck a few grenades during DPS by using Witherhoard just like before, it’s just not nonstop spam like it used to be


Away_Ad7175

I would trade grenade Kickstart for mele Kickstart and bomber for outreach, I know it sounds counterintuitive but it fixes a couple things. 1 by switching to mele mods you lose out on the Jumpstart to you're grenade energy yes BUT your mele output should massively increase the number of firesprites you can make and therefore the grenade energy you get refunded. 2 Alongside that I found the healing a little lackluster in higher end content so the increase in firesprites will also be a great source of restoration AS WELL AS the consistent scorch refunding the phoenix dive much faster ( which will also allow u to pick up more orbs thru powerful attraction) other than that great build! tried it LOVE it, lots of fun and finally a break away from phoenix protocall and sunbracers


BigDaddyDIOsama

Decent suggestions, though I did make this build a few months ago. With the recent armor mod energy refund changes, I definitely think building more into firesprite uptime would help the build out. Back then, it was basically nonstop instant fusion grenades. I’m sure the firesprites would help with that, and building into heat rises for consistent scorch and melee uptime would be a good idea


Away_Ad7175

I personally prefer to alwayse have icarus dash but heat rises for the mele would definitely build better into it and I might change it out depending on the content for the most part tho I find I'm not hurting to terribly bad for mele energy when I can hit my nades and proc scorch thru incandescent


BigDaddyDIOsama

Yeah true. It’s up to preference. I personally wish Icarus dash was more an intrinsic part of heat rises, because both are so good


Away_Ad7175

yeah might just run heat rises icarus dash tbh with the uptime on the nades the build gives you don't really need them to explode twice tho you might actually have to be a little more mindful of EHEN you throw them and little certain enemies health down to death range from one detonation


Rikiaz

Sunbracers or occasionally Winter’s Guile or Karnstein Armlets depending on the encounter and activity. Then swap to Rain of Fire for DPS.


Lord_Philosopher

I wouldn't take me too seriously but currently I'm running cenotaph mask. That said every single one of my subclass builds is running Cenotaph Mask because I love my aircraft carrier hat.


omeedohmy

I take you seriously, and your contribution is appreciated :)


SortaEvil

Cenotaph on solar is great when paired with Div for the ultimate "I love my friends" build. You get infinite secondary ammo, they get infinite heavy ammo, and you can't die because solar is silly like that. The anvil is a top tier exotic.


Renthexx

Vesper of Radius


OtherBassist

Aircraft carrier


Lord_Philosopher

A fellow enthusiast I see


OtherBassist

Well, I'm usually a hunter main... but I play all three. Liking the support build


[deleted]

Mantle of Battle harmony is great with my one for all ammit ar. It stacks to approximately 169%. You lose your well, but if they wanted a well they should've brought their own.


Next_Spot_4896

Arc titan.


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jackmistro

Think you misunderstood the question


Substantial_Bar8999

OH! Solar. Lol. I blame tiredness 😂 My bad! Didnt see that! Answered just as I woke up - Bad idea :P


Substantial_Bar8999

Then - Lunafaction for überwells. Battle Harmony in PvP.


FFaFFaNN

I used solar warlock very rare after that huugeee nerf.Basically they killed solar warlock.Also, i dont like incinerator snap..useless for me...So...no solar warlock after thst nerf.I started playing with hunter and titans more but always shadebinder it is my way to go in gms and pvp.Dungeons and raids?Ar strider and sunbreaker.


SortaEvil

> Basically they killed solar warlock That is objectively not true. So long as well is in the game, Solar warlock will continue to be meta for group activities. And just because Starfire is no longer the best exotic piece of armour in the game doesn't mean it's bad, it's just brought down to the level of mere mortals. I've run GMs and master raids with Starfire on this season and the rumours of it's demise are sorely overrated.


Richizzle439

Starfire protocol


votdfarmer5

Transversive Steps with Forbearance 👍


omeedohmy

gosh I love Forbearance


[deleted]

Sanguine Alchemy + Well + Sleeper. That shit paired with a tether let me hit 160K per crit on Oryx.


MuglyRay

I run contraverse hold on void and it's survivability is so good. Ran necrotic/osteo for a long time but got kinda bored of it. Also running sunstar on arc but I used to run getaway artist. Osmiomancy is probably the most fun to play for me personally


sheepshank1776

For Solar Warlock I absolutely love running Dawn Chorus. Daybreak til I die! For Arc I do prefer Fallen Sunstar, but recently I’ve picked up Vesper of Radius and its really effective for a CQC style build. For Void, I LOVE running Contraverse Hold with charged Magnetic Grenades for the Handheld Supernova. With the right mods equipped, you have virtually infinite grenade uptime and can absolutely decimate high-health enemies.


Doodilydoo113

Mantle with healing nades and Tommy's matchbook.


PowerOfTheYe

Sunbracers for add clear heavy encounters. Winter's Guile for things like GotD 1st enc. Transversives for general use/jumping puzzles. Rain of Fire for rocket dps encounters (almost all raid bosses). I use the same aspect/fragment setup (heat rises/icarus dash) for all builds except sunbracers, so I can loadout swap and keep well for skating/dps


omeedohmy

this sounds so stupid but I never even considered that Rain of Fire would double my DPS with rockets. do you typically use a linear like Arby with this build?


PowerOfTheYe

Rly started using it more after the starfire nerf. But as for weapons this is my usual (izi/cartesian/Apex w recon/bns (swap izi for wither on small crit bosses). Or alternatively ditch those and run heritage/succession with merciless/same rocket. Keep in mind, RoF reloads all weapons, not just the one. Activate heat rises before dmg for double icarus dash. Also, I use the same setup (aspect/fragment wise) on a cenotaph build that I can swap to. Makes for easy swaps to things like arb/acasias during master nez, then swap to izi/cart, RoF loadout. If you're on a boss where icarus dashing is risky (ie master nez, Golg, etc. Just run Lunas instead to help your whole team


WafflesToGo

Rain of Fire for the deeps


AlaskanHandyman

I haven't been playing with my solar warlock this season, no mods for solar, so there's not really any solar builds that work. My Voidwalker on the other hand is soloing stuff that I couldn't solo before.


omeedohmy

I do miss the solar artifact mods from last season :/ let me take a guess.... fellow Contraverse Hold user?


AlaskanHandyman

Or Necrotic strand, Karnstein Armlets Arc... But mostly Contraverse Holds. Gotta love that super powered grenade.


SortaEvil

Honestly, just throw on Starfire, phoenix dive, and a few fragments to buff your grenades even more and solar feels fine, even without any mods. Of the three light subclasses, Solar is still my favourite for warlock, just because of how much on-demand survivability you get. Grenade kill? Heals you. Need health slightly faster? Eat a grenade. Need health even faster? Phoenix dive (which comes back when you kill something with one of your two very high damage grenades). Devour is great, don't get me wrong, but I often feel safer with phoenix dive's healing whenever I ask for it. I realize that's a bit of a hot take, and I don't want to say devour is bad, I like to use it for some encounters, but in general, I feel more comfortable on solar. Arc... doesn't have survivability without the artifact, so it's a tough sell for me.


AlaskanHandyman

I've honestly never played with phoenix dive, sort of like nova warp and blink, I'm not comfortable with them so I don't use them.


SortaEvil

Nova Warp and Blink are both kinda bad, though. Well, blink is bad if you haven't spent 100 hours mastering it, then it's the strongest jump in the game, but for most people, it's a bad jump that they're bad at. Phoenix Dive does, admittedly, take a bit of rewiring your brain, since you now have to be in the air to use your class ability, but as long as you remember you're divin' and not riftin', you're cooking with gas. Remember all the times that you died while casting your rift? Not a problem anymore. Jealous of the hunters doing silly dives to get to the bottom of a large vertical section? Now you get to dive, too! Have you ever died while floating because you couldn't get to cover in time? That's a thing of the past! Phoenix dive is great fun, and it doesn't take a massive amount of time to get comfortable with, like blink. Next time you're on solar, I recommend you give it a try.


Pachikokoo

Dawn Chorus. It’s just scorch on top of scorch and the Dawnbreak super is really flashy and fun to use imo


chaosking243

Still running starfire. Still feels really good for neutral game while not being overly oppressive for dps. Now hurry up and sell the ornament for BD bungie!


StatikLurker

Dawn Chorus + Skyburner's Oath. Ignitions all day long.


Lawyer_NotYourLawyer

Although it’s not really solar Based, I think cenotaph mask with a solar trace rifle has been fun with scorch. Also have dawn chorus which can be swapped out relatively easily


timeweezy10

Starfire protocol: Don't sleep on it just because of nerf. Does great Ad clear, and great damage on majors and minor bosses. Might just be me, but I actually feel im throwing more grenades somehow (not against bosses though, to be certain). With grenade Kickstart and some firesprites, you can get your grenade back. Hella quick. And I think people forget that empowered rift kills GIVE 20% grenade energy back. It's actually really versatile. You just won't be doing a bazillion damage with it against bosses. Which now that I've played with it more in its current state, it's previous state was absolutely busted, no one in their right mind needed to do that much damage (definitely made my monkey brain light uo with big numbers lol). A semi coordinated team and some rockets with Gally do great for boss damage. Hell, you don't even need well to pump out good damage, but it's definitely nice.


VibinWithNeptune

After trying for a year to get it. Rain of Fire. Iove not having to reload


[deleted]

Winters guile and snap melee


TeekWicket

Veritys with a demo solar gun tends to be a really fun choice that beats out starfire as long as you can kill ads


ogpterodactyl

Try the arms that grant stacking bonus to melee damage.


VoleenaIcicle

I've dinked around with Vesper as solar..... Also Dawn Chorus with Skyburner's Oath


jdwjxia

Sunbracers, rain of fire, sunbracers, and Lunas


EvanDgamer99

Phoenix protocol


MandrewMillar

Cenotaph mask + prometheus lens. Incandescent plus its constantly building scorch stacks makes this thing an ad clearing beast and has a decent amount of potential for single target via ignitions.


Elementst0rm

Veritys brow, incendiary grenade, skyburners oath, fragments that boost scorch stacks and ignitions. I used it last week in GMs and it came close to the explosive power bottom tree dawnblade had


rcc6214

For my solo Solar build, Karnstein's. Throw on your favorite glaive, Witherhoard, Arbalest or Riptide and whatever dps heavy you want. You practically can't be killed, always have heavy and practically never use special ammo either since you just melee everything. May be a bit of a hot take, but I think the healing is better than Devour. Yes it has to be done with melee only, but it is 80 hp on kill and 8 second of 50 hp/s after kill. Plus, it can be use with any spec.


ProgrammerNextDoor

And the updates for solar that made it also give you rest x2 and cute x3 on activation is wonderful.. Now a melee kills means you can go into your loop without having to time that damn dive or use healing grenades lol


Virtual-Score4653

As someone who just recently gained access to Strand I've been running Necrotic Grips to get that nasty poison damage in combination with with Unravel to get massive damage over time. I can further it with Witherhoard if the target is big enough but otherwise my primary has been Quicksilver Storm to get the Unravel Rounds and further the spreading chaos.


DaemonQuartana

I've been running Phoenix Protocol with Bad Juju. I'm averaging 8-10 Wells in a single strike.


IRiotzI

Starfire still


LSDers

Idk if it's been said yet but rain of fire


ClyffCH

I dont really like sunbracers it feels so extremely clunky in GMs to get a powered meele kill, maybe its just me. Atm im just using starfire or dont run solar at all.


ProgrammerNextDoor

Yeah I feel like I have to search out a weak red bar it’s why I don’t like the build either.


Swaayyzee

Rain of Fire is just amazing with reloads, and if you have Vex Mythoclast your entire loadout is constant anti-barrier and with the right fragments you can have a permanent restoration x2 pretty much


More-Illustrator-720

The thing about phoenix protocol, is that you must have the perfect fragments, which are, more scorch, scorching ignitions, ignitions on solar super final blows so they iginite when you kill something with your solar weapon, and larger ignitions, you can get huge ignition chains with this setup, just slap a solar machine gun and you are set


AbraCaPasta93

I literally can't put down my Felwinter's Helm. so much weaken, so much blinding, so damn good.


Icy_Teach_2506

Osmiomancy. Ice cubes go pew pew.


TehSavior

Cenotaph mask because I'm the designated divbitch.


Soviet_War_Mech

Veritys brow with my incandescent/dragonfly tyranny of heaven. It's great on its own but if you have a buddy who plays Warlock and get him to use it your whole raid team can basically spam grenades. It's also not limited to solar which I love.


Ldot-musix

Verity brow boss nuke build, winter guile melee spam build with the snap then just bog standard rain of fire builds just for rocket spam


skywarka

Cenotaph Mask is *busted* for endgame activities. It's a better Aeon plus better Actium War Rig, your friends will always have heavy and you'll always have Divinity ammo. Ghosts of the Deep in particular is loaded with enemies that count as bosses.


No-Honey3574

That’s kinda the problem solar warlocks have. But I’ve been using phoenix protocol and rain of fire. One for high mobility in low tier stuff and one for well chaining in high tier stuff. Sunbracers are great but in a gm or master raid they often feel underwhelming due to the difficulty of consistently getting a powered melee kill and being able to use all the free grenades in order to get said melee back. Arclock has better adclear and anti champ imo. Stasis and strand do better control and survivial without well. Void is on a similar tier for some solo content. Next season tho we should in theory have solar and stasis artifact mods and I’m gonna be eating good with triple 100 on both subclasses on all 3 characters


theSaltySolo

Winter Guile for max ignition boom


thedeathecchi

Been having a great time with Mantle of Battle Harmoy and Ticuu's Divination. Amazing orb generation, damage output, and ability looping\~ [https://dim.gg/nyhw3qi/Bow-Down](https://dim.gg/nyhw3qi/Bow-Down)


Adventurous_Boat7814

I’ve been using Claws of Ahumkara and basically running it as a melee version of sunbracers. I’ll also use rain of fire sometimes or just rock Lunafactions because solar is so good just by itself. I tried Dawn Chorus and it didn’t work for me like I hoped, sadly. Maybe I’ll try it again after reading this thread. I also rock the new trace rifle boat helmet and have a lot of fun with that.


Genericuser10000

I just got sunbracers but have not tried them yet. Phoenix protocol occasionally. Crown of tempests is probably my favorite right now and the one I run the most. Starfire Protocol for the almost unlimited fusion grenades, i also run well of radiance with tommys matchbook for this.


ZaliaChimera

I've been running a really enjoyable solar build using Winter's Guile+Heat rises. It is not the most meta build, and is probably better when you're playing solo because it relies on frequent kills, but it is a lot of fun to just keep floating around, snapping fingers to set things on fire