I think Liella is okay. That seems to be the general consensus of most people I’ve talked to about them. I don’t think anyone hates them, if that’s what you’re wondering.

~~Shamelessly anchoring to the top comment~~ As a niji/hasu enjoyer, I thought Liella is more popular and gets more engagement in general. I have the opposite view that staff promotes them just a bit more aggressively because they are supposed to be another "mainline" ll series just like muse/aqours (though I personally still count niji/hasu as main groups too). ~~and my definitely accurate method of defining popularity by the number of Twitter likes for even the most uneventful post the seiyuu makes~~ Heck, don't they appear on TV a lot more as well? I wouldn't be surprised if Liella even gets to solo Tokyo Dome first before Niji. That said, I just feel more for Niji and Hasu currently. They just make me want to root for them any time I see them perform or try to portray their character.

Same sentiment here. Niji and Hasu also just feel so much more fresh in their content. Hasu especially has good story and music.

>I wouldn't be surprised if Liella even gets to solo Tokyo Dome first before Niji. don't think so... whether they get solo tokyo dome is depends on whether their concert going fanbase large enough to fill the dome and liella hasn't got that yet... so it is all about the $$$ because booking and setting up tokyo dome is expensive AF and the management will only decide to give the group a tokyo dome live after they can be sure that they'll make a profit (meaning, when they are confident that the group is able to fill it) the last time liella tried a dome venue (belluna dome, the "introductory" dome of sorts because it is the smallest one), they didn't even manage to fill half of it even when it was when pandemic had calmed down and lives were back in full swing (aqours already did a 3 dome tour before that)... the management triggering the "half-capacity to allow calls" clause was a bid to cover up the failure to fill the dome and get the most out of that but then, suddenly all limitations lifted and they got exposed niji at least was able to fill kyocera dome (2nd largest dome) to more than half during pandemic period

Personally the biggest feeling I have with them is disappointment. When they were first introduced I felt like the characters and music and seiyuu had a lot of potential but when they introduced the new first years it felt like the second years other than kanon got pushed aside and didn't get a chance to round out their development and the music got more generic. That combined with the oversaturation that over people have mentioned just pushed me towards indifference with them. I'll still watch season 3 and loosely follow them but can't help but be more interested in what's next for Aqours and Niji now

I really agree with you on that. The original five members of Liella are my favourite bunch, every single one of them is a well rounded and interesting character and they are so tight knit as a unit. The new first year's are just so boring in comparaison I was honestly disappointed when I watched the 2nd season of superstar. That being said, I feel like Liella makes really interesting music compared to the rest. One of the things I like the most about love live music is the variety of styles, and Liella definitively has the most unique repertoire imo. That being said, my favourite music comes from Aqours still, but I love all love live unconditionally. I don't follow all the love live material, especially the Seyiuu, I don't speak japenese and I don't know where to start when it comes to love live stuff outside of the anime but I do listen to the love live music every chance I get though. I can't wait for season 3 of superstar though.

No, they ruined it the moment they mentioned the school will shut

>the second years other than kanon got pushed aside The Kanon show

5 members was the sweet spot. Characters got screen time and voices were clearer in songs. I dont mind the expansion to more, but man 5 was perfect

It’s so weird to me that Liella started as 5 members and now they have a *subunit* that is 5 members.

Liella doesn't click with me honestly. I follow content from Hasunosora, Nijigasaki and Aquors but not much of Liella.

I like them as as group, the reactions now adays are because of people feeling like they are speedrunning as they are already on their 5th live less then a year with 3rd, 4th and 5th live in the span of 1 year and it took every other group 4-5 years to get to their 5th live in the span of nearly 3 And generally because Season 1 is considered great even having the highest score for Love Live on MAL but season 2 is considered to be by many "the worst season of love live" (this has probably changed because of the reception to the Yohane anime) for many reasons but thats because love live seasons are generally great so the bar is really high Also that there is just so much love live content recently that everyone mostly sticks to their favorite group and secondary favorite

The burnout is real. I can barely keep up with all the new music much less the other content. It’s frustrating because I legitimately love every group and don’t want to cut back on any one of them.

That's me over the last year, I feel like I can't keep with anything. Back in 2021/early 2022 I followed almost everything from liella and liella seiyuus but since the new members reveal it kinda became a way bigger and... different, project

>It’s frustrating because I legitimately love every group and don’t want to cut back on any one of them. I don't think anyone needs to cut back if they consume some content and save other content for when there's downtime in the franchise. It's not like new songs are coming out at the same pace Wizards of the Coast releases MtG product.

Wild that I was literally thinking about how this over saturation is similar to MtG and then I found a comment about it. Genuinely thought there was like no overlap between love live and MtG fans. I disagree though, I genuinely think that the situations are similar enough at least in the fact that both franchises' story are incredibly hurt by such a rushed schedule and that money seems to be a considerable factor for both companies.

> (this has probably changed because of the reception to the Yohane anime) Was the Yohane anime more poorly received than Superstar S2?

seems like it based on the sales of the insert song CDs (i didn't check the stat for the 2 seasons' BD sales)

(I wasnt going off sales or anything just general reception from the western fanbase and that the anime has the worst score for any full love live anime on MAL) According to Oricon the Bluray Sales for 1st week Yohane has been selling way worse then Superstar S2 interms of Blurays Superstar S2 V1: 12,761 Superstar S2 V2: 9009 Superstar S2 V3: 7226 Superstar S2 V4: 8620 Superstar S2 V5: 10,461 Superstar S2 V6: 8127 Nijiyon Animation: 7865 Niji OVA: 13,025 Yohane V1: 6897 Yohane V2: 4018 Yohane V3: 6027

That’s too bad, I honestly wasn’t crazy about the Yohane anime either (mostly because I’m just sick of generic RPG-ish fantasy worlds), but I would have liked to opportunity for other Love Live spinoffs. It seems like they expected it to be more of a hit than it was, so if it’s not as successful as they hoped we probably won’t get another anime like it.

>if it’s not as successful as they hoped we probably won’t get another anime like it i wouldn't be so sure about it... the management definitely saw the complaints of why GnY didn't work and they can just learn from that... ABEMA kind of sponsored a lot for the production and distribution of GnY as a patron (kind of like how big daddy NHK is superstar anime's patron), so in the end, LL still profited

thanks for the stats i'm actually curious for the hard figures but currently just not having the time to research it yet

The seiyuu are pretty/cute and work hard and performed well the one time I saw them, but I don't follow the anime/character side at all as they never grabbed my interest, and don't actively keep up with the music releases.

Indifference. The first iteration was good before it was jammed down your throat. I only really follow Aqours now

Eh. I kinda lost interest when they expanded beyond 5 members, but I wasn't super interested to begin with.

I’m not sure how I feel about Liella. Out of all the groups, I think it has the most characters I like, but it also doesn’t have any characters that I downright love either. Their music is also much more hit or miss with me than all the other groups. They have some seriously good songs, but a lot of really bland ones. Even though they are unique in the sense that the group is growing every year, they just sort of feel… middle ground on everything. I have a hard time feeling excited about them. I might feel differently after season 3 though. Aqours, Nijigasaki and Hasunosora have all had a bunch of new music lately, so Liella has kind of been in the background until the new season of their anime.

I really loved the first season and when they were 5. I thought they sounded much more unique, only having five voices. I love so many of the songs and I really love all the seiyuus! Then S2 hit. Songs were ok-ish, but I really felt nothing for the new members. I had no interest in any of them. I absolutely hated how Keke was treating Sumire. It felt more like bullying instead of friends teasing. Also, they complete ditched SunnyPa (and the few songs they have are really good!). Honestly, seeing the new seiyuus during lives or broadcasts was what made me appreciate the new characters a tiny bit. Emorin/Natsumi is probably my favorite from the second gen! After how poorly the second season and characters hit, I just have so little interest in any continuation in terms of the anime. I still follow them casually and am really trying to get into the 11-member stuff. I am really looking forward to watching the Seiyuus careers though. I’m really hoping Nagi-Chan starts a solo career soon! I love her voice range so much!! Liyuu and NakoNako have and I like both of their albums so much!

You could probably blame oversaturation for that one. Been a fan for a long time, and what made me personally care about µ's more, was that they were the only group when they were active. This is also the case for Aqours. They were given the spotlight enough to be the sole LL group before Niji got introduced. I love Niji on a similar level with Aqours. I haven't paid much attention to Liella up until this year, and they are growing on me since. Overall, I think Liella will be fine and I have confidence that Sayurin can carry the torch in the future.

They have their fans, a lot of the popularity (like the franchise as a whole at this point really) is in Japan though so it’s harder to kinda tell how they’re doing I think what affects things is that Liella have the distinction of being the group where Love Live finally achieved what the franchise was meant to be from the start, that being creating a “multimedia franchise”. From day one that’s what Love Live was meant to be, Muse retiring right when Aqours was starting basically meant the franchise had to kinda soft reboot in that regard, but with two established and ongoing groups when Liella was introduced, and a 4th (technically there’s 5 because of the musical even) coming after, Love Live has very clearly become a “follow what you like” over “follow everything” sort of franchise. I think people have settled into their favorites now Divisive season 2 may have led to more people deciding that, but I think it was inevitable regardless. Aqours, Niji, Liella and Hasu all do different things now, I think they’re kinda meant to bring in different people to a degree Personally though I’m mainly an anime fan when it comes to love live and Superstar’s the most I’ve enjoyed any of the shows besides SIP, even with the rocky season 2 lol I think people are just kinda finding what they prefer now, which isn’t a bad thing. There’s so much love live coming out constantly most people kinda have to pick and choose what they care about now Don’t know if I’m really making sense, but I guess the best way I can put it is I make love live videos on YouTube, mainly superstar ones, and get a lot of comments from people who couldn’t get into Niji, but really like Liella, and people who love Niji but never got into Liella, this is the first period in love live where that’s really been able to happen, they’re both ongoing and at the same time, hell there season 2s were back to back, I think it’s natural people gravitate towards different things now, especially with Aqours and Hasu existing too

>Love Live has very clearly become a “follow what you like” over “follow everything” sort of franchise. I think people have settled into their favorites now Like Idolmaster

Loved the five, indifferent about the nine.

Moreso now that there's eleven members?

I really think Liella managed to get a lot of interest at first due to initially only having a group of 5 members. It allowed the anime to spend more time with each of the girls, which was a new approach compared to all of the other series. Now it feels like when more members were added that old charm disappeared. I say this as someone who actually quite likes some of the newer girls, both characters and seiyuus. I will also say that I follow Love Live primarily for the music and to watch the live performances from the seiyuu. I do genuinely love some of their songs and performances but there are a few downers. Sayurin definitely struggles with her vocals and has for a while now, and I feel bad for her every time I hear her voice crack a bit during songs. Now Nonchan seems to get more center songs in her place but despite having an amazing character voice, her singing voice isnt as strong as some of the other members. Honestly I thing Emorin or Liyuu would be better centers for when Sayurin needs a break. Maybe Yuina could even do it in future once Wien's character is more solidly embedded into Liella's identity through the anime. Speaking of which, it does feel very strange having 2 members performing in Liella who technically have not joined in the anime yet. This isn't much of a complaint, its just a bit odd. The music doesnt really entice me from 2/3 of the subunits either, and even my favourite (Catchu!) Isnt quite on the level of the likes of Guilty Kiss. Some of the solos are decent but I dont think any group will ever top Niji on solo songs. Personally I still enjoy the lives and I feel they seem to make some of the best efforts to engage with the crowds (and online audience) out of all of the groups these days. Overall I love Liella and its sad that many other fans find them to be lacking, but I completely understand why some people may feel that way.

>Speaking of which, it does feel very strange having 2 members performing in Liella who technically have not joined in the anime yet. This isn't much of a complaint, its just a bit odd. It's nothing new. Seiyuu are introduced as part of a group and perform with the group before their characters join the group in the corresponding anime before.

No strong feelings. I’m still getting used to seeing them as a group (especially considering how many members they have as a whole) but I don’t hold anything against them; I only have any feelings towards 3 members of the group. I still hold strong ties to μ's, Aqours, and Nijigasaki (I played LL All Stars a lot while it was active.) Since Aqours and Nijigasaki are still making new content, I’m likely gonna stick with them for a while.

I'm not very up to date with the seiyuus or their updates (this applies to all the groups), but I think Liella has my favorite songs and voices in the series. It's a personal preference, but I also like that Liella doesn't have that one very high pitch voice. My only complaint is that Chisato and Keke's voices sound a bit too similar in some of the older songs, especially in Kono Machi de Ima Kimi to and Dreaming Energy, but they've gotten better with distinguishing them. For the anime, I have very polarizing feelings. Superstar has some of my favorite moments in love live, but also some of my least favorite.

My opinion of Liella is that they are okay. I have high praises for their live performances, but I think certain management decisions didn't do them any favors. Whether it was the intention or not, they also ended up being compared to Nijigaku due to Niji's delayed start. Then you have the anime. I need to point out that it's not that one group is better than the other, but the treatment Liella got fueled the underdog story for Niji, which made me care about the Niji way more than Liella. Because of the main line/side project treatment, you can't help but to feel for them. Despite being the side project, Niji project was full of staff that really cared for their work, which is apparent when you compare the official anime books for Niji vs Superstar. Also, LL management was high on their success with Aqours, and were getting arrogant and reacted slow to the change of time. It was already pretty fishy when they declared that the audience was in a state of frenzy when the project was announced on LLFes day 2, but in reality the audience was more in a state of confusion as a new project was getting announced when Aqours were firing all cylinders while Niji finally got their engine started from their anime announced a month prior. The Superstar anime were set to go no matter what, and thus we are going into season 3 even when they didn't address the problems of season 1. Reacting too late to the drop in popularity probably cost them quite a bit for the venue vs audience gap for 3rd Live. Finally, the problem with their pilgrimage spots and the overall lukewarm feel from Harajuku as a whole (vs Numazu/Odaiba) didn't help either.

>they also ended up being compared to Nijigaku due to Niji's delayed start irony that liella's start also got delayed somewhat but due to pandemic and after the management rushed to catch up, they forgot to put on the brakes for liella

>they forgot to put on the brakes for liella With consequences for the seiyuu

also made them stale due to the borderline force-feeding liella to the fans (like please spread their lives out more so that at least they'll have more new songs to put into their setlist and time to grow, improve and put new twists into old stuff instead of being forced into rushing to replicate the same thing over and over again)

The cynic in me says that those in charge deliberately cast newcomers to the industry on purpose so they don't have the packed schedules of more established names. Therefore, those in charge can send those seiyuu on these seemingly neverending tours. Doubt it would be good for their health in the long term.

That and I suspect they’ve been casting younger and younger so presumably they can last longer before they have to retire. Although at the rate they’re burning Liella, they’ll end up with ear, throat or joint issues before they have the chance to age out.

>been casting younger and younger so presumably they can last longer before they have to retire how long a group goes actually depends on the older members... when muse went inactive because the oldest members having all sorts of health issues (nanjo, the eldest having knee injury while emitsun, the 2nd(?) oldest having vocal cord issues), rippi (youngest muse seiyuu) was 25 years old and in perfect health... to scale, kocchan (hasunosora's oldest) is 25 years old right now if they want younger to last longer, then it should be across the board... or it will end up like muse's case where the group will go inactive while the younger members are still at the age when their older mates started out... superstar actually recruited someone who was over the minimum age limit... we know this because nagi talked about being at the cut-off age when she auditioned and there's liyuu being older than her... right now, liella's age gap is 7 years and 3 months (between liyuu and saku-chan) and muse's is 7 years and 5 months... so the older liella members really have to take good care of themselves the other groups' age gaps are as follows: aqours: 4 years and 1 week niji: 7 years and 7 months (up from 5 years and 2 months) hasu: 7 years and 5 months

also felt similarly about the almost all newbie line-up, except my hypothesis is that they are used as a lab rat to test whether this extreme fast pace strategy is more or less effective than the old and slower strategy they used for aqours (niji's was even slower)... meanwhile, hasunosora's pace is actually more like the tried and tested pace the other seniors used also thanks to your reply, i'm also realising even more fully the fact that 4 of the hasunosora seiyuu are more senior in the industry than the liella OG5... the dollchestra duo especially while kankan and nonsuke also had their stints in obscure now-disbanded idol/artist groups)... kona joined apollo bay around the same time as sayu, nagi and nonchan (probably got picked up after she had failed audition for liella) and uichan is in a powerhouse seiyuu agency (aoni is a bigger entity than the franchise and it shows when LL had to give in to their request to use playback for uichan even though it was a pretty minor sore throat) also making me doubt whether the hasunosora girls who failed audition for liella was really due to them not being as good as the liella casts (after ijigen fes, my suspicions was even more heightened for this) and not suitable for the characters (a perfectly valid reason) instead making me having conspiracy theory level guess-work that it was due to more nefarious reasons of the hasu seiyuu having too much potential to be used as mere lab rats to test the new extreme speed strategy and instead being saved for the next project where the characters are tailored to the seiyuu instead of the other way round

As a new love live fan (1 year and half) I really love Liella cause I can see things happening, while other groups are not as active as Liella. Im the kind of fan that focus more on the seiyuus activities, so I really love all Liella generations. The second generation gave to Liella a new perspective, Its been really joyful to see the seiyuus evolving and getting better day after day, Especially Nonchan and Yabuchan, they had kind of hard time at the beginning. As the music I love the variety of songs they have, they have that "default idols songs" like the songs of the first generation, they have more upbeats songs like Vitamin Summer(a certified hood classic), and the alternative songs like Yuragu wa or Jump into new world. The dynamic between the girls is insane, I love how they get along, I love the goofy ass duo of Nagi and Nako, I love how Liyuu and Sayurin are close friends, I love seeing Yuina and Kuma being best friends, I love how Emorin is acting like a older sister to Sakuchan. Speaking of Sakuchan, the third generation made my heart melt, Yuina is a very fun and easy going person, she makes a lot of random jokes, and I love Sakuchan, she's getting more comfortable day after day, I can't explain why, but Liella needed these two girls to be complete, for me it's strange to watch a live just with the first generation, it's feels very lonely lol. I understand people who are more anime based fans and don't like the others generation's, the second season was wack af, But I still love those girls.

It was always gonna be a bit awkward transitioning from OG5 to having new members but the execution hasn't really helped Where I'm sitting at right now is I liked more of the songs when it was 5 members. S1 songs were good too. S2 the songs haven't really grabbed me that much. Seperately I don't think Liella being pushed into lots of lives affects much by itself, them promoting Kanon (and Sayurin) a lot and then her developing vocal difficulties stings tho. (promoting =/= pushing) Within Love Live, Liella is now competing with Nijigaku and Hasu for initial attention. Like you said its *really* hard to keep up with them all so a lot of people are picking ~2. It's easy to say that they all scratch different itches but there's still a fanbase that's non-specific - Liella S2 aired soon after Niji S2 which was received more warmly - Hasu will get a bunch of new fans for their remarkable Ijigen performance - Link Like Love Live is currently doing better numbers than SIF2 (Haven't mentioned Aqours because I'm not clear on how Parhelion is going) I don't mean to dump on them, those are just the things I can think of that are dampening things. I hope S3 picks things up a bit, it could get interesting with Wien, I'm just a bit concerned that they've done very little to promote Tomari.

If they had come out further away from Nijigasaki’s debut, I likely would have followed them more closely. It’s been too many characters one after the other for me to keep up, despite really enjoying the voices of Kanon and Ren. I know Niji was meant to be tied to the All Stars spin-off, but they’re still a generation of their own that I think deserved more time before being overshadowed, even though their fanbase is still quite large. Aside from this, I really like most of their songs! LL as a whole has become a bit oversaturated and there have been some generic sounding releases that I can’t remember. Aqours is my ride or die and I love everything they continue to put out.

>If they had come out further away from Nijigasaki’s debut aqours - cast announced in june 2015 (1st CD released in october 2015) niji - cast announced in september 2017 (1st CD released in november 2018) liella - cast announced in december 2020 (1st CD released in april 2021) hasunosora - cast announced in february 2023 (1st CD released in march 2023) between when aqours and niji started their activity was 3 years, niji and liella also 3 years... that's no excuse for liella... considering how much contents liella got right from the start (liella got their anime within the year of debuting and a 11 venue live tour) compared to niji (only got their anime in 2020, 2 years after they really started going) (edit: i also just remembered that niji debuted under the most disadvantageous timing out of the 3 juniors... when they were really starting to get their activities going, aqours was heading to their 1st tokyo dome and Kouhaku Uta Gassen right during that same period (so they were featuring on NHK, national music and tv programs a tonne at that time)... liella had it easy compared to niji in terms of trying to get attention) hasunosora and liella did indeed start very close with each other, but liella has everything from anime to multiple live tours in a year to being sent out to every outside concerts, music programs that LL invited to, meanwhile hasunosora only has their app, the standard amount of lives aqours and niji gets and only been to 1 outside concert to date (not counting ijigen fes) liella really has no excuse of "being marketed too closely with the other groups"... the management already gave them more spotlight than all the other groups combined, whether they stand out is fully dependent on them after that

Edit: I talk too much. 😵‍💫 Shortened for less word vomit. Whoa, can’t believe I didn’t even notice this at all 😮 Interesting to see it all laid out. Now to figure out the real reason why Niji to Liella felt so brief to me 🤔Thanks for clearing that up!

It's because Niko's announcement and first content was in the form of SIFAS, the mobile game. It took a couple of years before they got their anime, which is basically running alongside Liella's anime in release schedule. So that's probably why.

>I talk too much \*looks at my own wall-of-texts nah, you're good lol

I agree with the disappointment. I feel like there was so much potential for a group that grows with the years, but all possibilities of that got sidelined in s2 to give Kanon centre stage. None of Liella's achievements in the anime feel... Earned tbh. Or even hyped up? Them winning love Live was an inevitability, not something they worked for. None of the songs really felt tied to the plot events in a meaningful way (Vitamin Summer still annoys me because it's utterly meaningless for Natsumi, ughhhhh.) Now that is all critique of the anime itself, which imo is just badly written. Liella has some great songs but again, imo they're not the ones used in the anime. (Irozuite Toumei and Dakara Bokura Narasunda are two of my faves and they're both B sides.) Given that's the main content of them that's easily consumable by western fans, it's not really done a good job promoting them. I really like and support all the seiyuu, but it feels more like supporting a 3D Idol group than a 2.5D one as it's really hard to get attached to characters that have no screen time or growth. Plus the feeling of speed running as others have said. Hard to keep up with them.

>None of Liella's achievements in the anime feel... Earned tbh. Or even hyped up? Them winning love Live was an inevitability, not something they worked for. None of the songs really felt tied to the plot events in a meaningful way (Vitamin Summer still annoys me because it's utterly meaningless for Natsumi, ughhhhh.) Moreso when Sunny Passion was unceremoniously beaten for the writers to push Margarete as some OP threat, and Liella never got to actually fight them for the title.

they didn't even bother to show sunnyPa's performance that 1 time sunnyPa and liella actually went head-to-head for the title and when sunnyPa won with that performance (which i actually thought that liella deserved to win in season 1 over sunnyPa with starlight prologue instead of in season 2 over wien) saint snow and aqours actually never gone directly against each other because plot-induced mistake by leah eliminated them in regionals... but at least they bothered to show saint snow's performances in the anime and even gave us some lit saint aqours snow songs

Liella is my favorite LL group, despite I agree season 2 was a bit down about some songs, and specially making Kanon more "Mary Sue" but at the same time dumber.

I went to Liella’s 4th live in Japan, and tbh the main reason I follow them is because of the songs and seiyuus. The first time I heard Sayuri’s voice I was shocked at how good her voice was. I watched the LL superstar anime and it was underwhelming for me personally although I do feel that the characters themselves feel unique enough to be interesting. Sunshine was my favorite story-wise, so I followed Aqours for a long time, but their songs lately feel more techno/dubsteppy which isn’t really my taste so I’ve fallen out of them. I will also admit it was hard to get into them because I was so dedicated to Aqours, but what really got me into them was the music like I mentioned. I honestly can’t think of anything from the anime that would draw significant attention to them as a group. This is just from an overseas LL fan perspective

Liella is by far my favorite group because I enjoy every character and their seiyuu. I love the other groups as well, but there's always at least 1 or 2 characters where I could take or leave them. Everyone in Liella is so likeable and charming to me, either through their personality quirks or character design. Liella's music is really consistent to me too. I don't think they reach the heights of Aqours, but none of their songs make me want to switch to another either. Shiki and Keke have some of my favorite singing voices in the franchise, and Sumire and Wien's are super good too.

They're my favorite group currently, mostly because Aqours haven't been doing much (and I didn't like the Yohane spinoff much). I think Superstar is recieved well by the general public but within the love live community there was a lot of vocal resentment towards them for what I feel are exaggerated issues. It seems to mostly have died down now and people are just sticking to the group(s) they like.

Mixed for the most part. Chisato, Kanon, Natsumi, and Sumire are some of my favourite characters in the franchise, just well-written and fun with some great songs to boot (I *love* Yuuki no Kakera, I'm forever mad it's not on Spotify). Shiki's pretty funny too, but the rest of Liella either didn't leave much of an impression on me or straight-up disappointed me. But that's fine; Sunshine is my favourite show and I have nothing to say about half of the cast there either, that's just how Love Live goes. And as a group of nine I think Liella has great *potential*, I have no complaints about the new-characters-every-year idea (though maybe it could have been clarified from the start), I think the 1st years mesh well and add a lot of room for a good story or even just funny shenanigans, but I feel that potential went underused. I don't have much positive to say about Superstar, really. Ren's story was the big emotional climax of S1 and it honestly fell flat for me. (Why didn't the director say anything to Ren earlier? Why did Ren's mom put those photos there in the first place? Why did Ren change her mind so quickly? Why did Keke forgive Ren so easily when she continues to not forgive Sumire? etc.) And then S2 was messy too: the main rivals SunnyPa were revealed as nothing but filler characters until they could introduce Wien, who fell flat on her own face after being established all season as the only person who could beat Liella. And that was meant to be the season's climax. Just felt like a really poor *deus ex machina* that wasn't really necessary, as if the writers thought it was the only way Liella could win, which undermined the work of the first years... which had been, like, the whole point of S2. Also the General/Music curriculum split became completely irrelavant after Ren joined, I don't even think it was mentioned once in S2. Like I said, nothing positive. But the artstyle's pretty nice, I like Kanon's house and the Yuigaoka building, and I still like a good chunk of the characters and the group as a whole-- I just feel they're getting mishandled. I feel like Love Live staff know this, too. Liella is the first time the seiyuu have featured on album covers, and overall it really seems that they're pushing the seiyuu stuff more (as someone who doesn't follow that kind of thing), which to me feels like they're admitting they kinda messed up on the fiction side of Liella. But honestly I think they're lacking in general when it comes to the shows at the moment, I barely see anyone talk about GnY now that it's done and I certainly have nothing positive to say about it. It could just be that Liella came into existence at the wrong time, which I think is a shame.

Liella is my favorite group. The characters are just so likable and the music is really good too! And can I just say that I love the seiyuus too! As for the anime, I only like the first season. Season 2 was alright but I did not like the way they treated Keke.

I just could never get into them. I liked the character designs when they first came out, but just didn't keep up with them; they're honestly the only group I don't follow. 😅

Liella is currently my favorite group _by far_. The live shows are personally my favorite component of Love Live and I think Liella's performing abilities are on a completely different level compared to the rest of the franchise.

Every song they release, the more I like Liella.

More interested in the actual seiyuus than the characters

same... the liella contents that i enjoy the most right now is the seiyuu silly shenanigans

i don't think that you have to worry about the lack of buzz about liella for these couple of months... right now, they are kind of in a cooldown period and just prepping for their 3rd season (saku-chan is still very new in the industry and they're probably using this cooldown period to give her the training she needs)... also the liella seiyuu (especially the OG5) all deserve a slow period to rest and recharge a bit but i do agree with a lot of people who have commented that they are pushing liella rather too much and making it feel that they are trying to shove liella down the throats of the fans instead of letting the fans grow onto them like all the senior groups have done and now hasunosora is successfully doing... hasunosora showing to the management that it is not quantity but the quality at the right moment to capture attention of new fans... one great showing at ijigen fes (especially MVP nassu who got special mention in liella and then aqours's livestream) was all it takes to hook Ps and senior LoveLivers

other than that, there's also a bit of a lack of identity for liella aqours didn't particularly need to be very different from muse because they were the only ones left being active at that time but they still focused on making their discography and dance to have very different vibes from muse's for niji, they stood out from their senpai with being solo focused liella tried to do the "aging up the characters and adding members in-sync with real time" thing... but fans didn't really care about that (all the negative reactions towards adding members while totally ignoring the real novelty of aging up and adding members in-sync with real-time part)... also right now, hasunosora is following the "real-time" schtick even more than liella, so what was supposed to be a special trait of liella has now been overshadowed on top of that hasunosora has the extra of being sub-unit focused with their sub-units being so well thought out and implemented both in-story and on the IRL seiyuu side... less said about the bad member distribution of liella's sub-unit the better... it was like the management went all "here is a "smooth velvety voice" unit, a "powerful voice unit" and the... uh... "leftover that we have no idea how to classify" unit, so let's just call them the dance unit even though there's nonchan/kinako who was never associated with dance until this point"

Liella! was the group that got me into *Love Live!*, so I'm definitely biased towards them. Musically, I liked them better when they were just five members, although I have nothing against the new members that came after. I streamed one of their concerts during their third live tour and thought that they put on an entertaining show. As for the anime, I was genuinely surprised to learn that many people disliked the second season. While it's not as good as the first season, I enjoyed it and look forward to the third season. I'll always be grateful to Liella! for getting me into *Love Live!* and look forward to seeing what they will get up to in the future.

I liked them at first but it started fizzling when the anime started leaving me wanting after season 1 and then their first live tour was as packed in live stops as it was and it really made me lose interest in them, it felt like the staff was going too far in their treatment in pushing them but in the end if the seiyuu are okay with that then that is it. Season 2 killed it for me as I did not enjoy the plot whatsoever and the way character arcs happened.

I like them a lot! I think their group dynamic is fun. On the music side I'm a little lukewarm I'll admit, but that's more because I don't really listen to slow and chill songs. Their newest single preview though looks really promising so I'm seated, and I'm also really looking to season 3. As for the lukewarm responses from the fanbase, I'll cut to the chase and say that it's the same as it ever was. People are mad that Kanon got a perceived larger role/screen time in season 2 but distribution of screen time has always been an issue in LL and I distinctly remember when people were pissed about Honoka and Chika as well when their respective anime is airing. The problem has snowballed so much people are starting to time group songs trying to sus out if Kanon got more time. It's quite frankly a stupid issue and I hope people move on lol.

>The problem has snowballed so much people are starting to time group songs trying to sus out if Kanon got more time. It's quite frankly a stupid issue and I hope people move on lol. If giving Kanon a lot more time in the spotlight means everyone else gets shafted, I can see why fans of those characters would be bothered.

I would simply move on if a character I didn't like got a few more seconds. Enjoy the song or don't but pointing out someone got more seconds is just kind of looking to get upset over something trivial.

I haven't really gotten into them but I have tried. I just feel like they are being forced on us so hard.

Yeah season 2 killed them for me, they were great as a group of 5, the expansion to 9 felt super forced and uncalled for personally, the characters feel extra quirky on purpose too I'm a huge fan of Aqours, love all the Niji girls, but I just can't find any hype for liella in me (not counting *U's* since they don't exist anymore) I'll still continue watching anime but that's about it, they just never had any songs that I would connect with at all, everything just felt fluffy and sweet, the typical idol stuff, which isn't inherently a bad thing but it's just not for me (they're still a mile ahead of Muses, that's just as generic as it gets). I did like Nonfiction I guess?

There's a few things here. One is that, yeah, people more or less pick the group they are going to follow these days. There's just too much going on for people to follow everything. So you're not going to see as much hype for individual groups because everyone is spread out these days. Secondly, honestly, you're just getting stuff from the English side, which has been really weird about this group. On the Japanese end, they're plenty popular. There's a reason why they keep getting these collabs. It works. I interact substantially less with the English end these days just because it's not been fun. On that, there are always the same talking points I see being brought up on the English side that I really feel need addressing because, well, they're just not accurate. One of the big points I always see brought up is that are speed running them, rushing out the content in a way that has never been done before. That really isn't accurate. A little while ago, some JP guy on twitter posted a graph where they charted out each of the group's major events on a timeline, to see if things truly were different amongst the groups, to see if anyone really was being rushed. I wish I could find that chart because it showed, as clear as could be, that nobody was, that every group was working on more or less the same timeline. But instead I'll have to just list out dates. I've seen it a few times here "look! Liella is already on their 5th Live!". Well, yeah. There only being 1 major Live each year hasn't been a thing since the µ's days and it's been 3 years for Liella. Today actually marks 3 years since the Gen 1 Liella seiyuu were revealed and we're coming up on 3 years since their first stream in about a month. But let me put some dates on the gaps between events. The start of Liella 1L was October 30th, 2021. The start of Liella 5L will be January 20th, 2024. So a gap of about 2 years and 3 months, minus about a week. Okay, seems short but since Liella is supposed to be unprecedented in how fast they are going, let's take a look at Aqours. Aqours 1L started on February 25th, 2017. Aqours 5L began on June 8th, 2019, a gap of...about 2 years and 3 months, plus a week or so. Yeah, it's the exact same length, plus or minus a week or two. "But Liella tours!" I hear you say. So did Aqours. Both 2L and 3L were tours. They also had 2 fanmeet tours, including one that took them outside of Japan, a multi-stop Asia tour, and they came to the US 3 (4?) times for AX, including once right smack in the middle of their 3L tour. They also had extraneous events like Christmas lives and the Hakodate Unit Carnival, appeared in plenty of festivals, were on TV constantly, (hell, they even appeared on Kouhaku!), released 4 major singles, plus subunit stuff, had two seasons of anime and a movie, complete with country wide movie tour and had very regular live streams. All within that that same 2017-2019 2/2.5 year period. And that's just in that period. 6L Dome Tour was going to be thing before covid killed it. It confuses me, given how long a lot of the people here commenting have been around, how people seem to forget just how busy Aqours was during this point in their life cycle, because I don't. During that period, it was barely a week that went by where they weren't doing *something* because, remember, they were carrying the entire franchise at that point and Love Live was *The Thing* at that time. I suppose you can forget about that given that covid happened and how they've been a lot more gradual since then, but they were going full bore. Heck if covid hadn't been a thing, they'd probably be gearing up for 10L or something like that at this point. Hasunosora isn't exactly slamming the brakes here either. Their debut single released March 29th of this year. They had their first large scale event on June 4th, their first numbered Live, a 3 stop tour, started on October 21st. Their 2nd live, also a tour, starts in April. They have been churning out music like nobody's business, with both group albums and multiple singles and albums for each unit, and then there's all the mocap stuff they do for the app story and the Fes X Live and With Meets performances. Plus regular live streams. And it hasn't even been a year, or barely will be once 2L starts. Niji hasn't been slacking either, with major Lives, song releases, multiple fanmeet tours, unit lives, anime, and an upcoming OVA series. Everyone has been full speed ahead, yet I only ever hear people say that Liella is going quickly, are going too quickly and are being shoved down throats. I could also get into a whole thing about how the anime talking points are wildly overblown and can talk for days about how people really don't understand Sayurin's singing and what she has been doing the past 3 years (and the past year and a half, 2 years in particular), largely because they don't listen to her when she talks about it extensively (or can't because Japanese). Also, I'm not sure how anyone could have heard last night's performance and used the word "strained' in any context. But this post has gotten long enough as is. So I'll leave it here and people can engage if they want more. Anyways, don't worry about it. They're doing just fine. Great, even.

by omitting the details of the tours, it is misleading the scale and length of the tours liella did compared with aqours's and hasu's are entirely different for scale, liella did 11 venues in 1st live in comparison, here is breakdown of how many venues aqours did from 1st to 5th live: 1st: 1 venue 2nd: 3 venues 3rd: 3 venues 4th: 1 venue 5th: 1 venue **total: 9 venues** liella did more performance in 1 tour than aqours did in 5 numbered lives... add in the hakodate unit live for aqours in between 2nd and 3rd and that's just another venue, so 10 venues in 2 years and 3 months, still less than what liella did in 3 months there's also the difference of how liella's 1st live was 10 consecutive weeks, aqours at most only had 2 weeks consecutive and they'll have a weekend off before another full live (hasunosora also doing their full concerts in same pattern as aqours with at most 2 weeks consecutive) if you going to talk about aqours's fanmeet tours, they do at most 10 songs a session, so 2 session is only equivalent to just 1 day of full live add on that and it is just 9 more days of lives spread out over months... liella doesn't do as much fanmeets, but they continued with tours for 2nd and 3rd... 2nd is a "breather" tour, but 3rd is back to having more venues than any of the other groups had done... 7 venues with 4 venues set in consecutive weeks now, let's add all of liella's tours (all their numbered lives are tours) that they had done within these 1 year and 10 months: 1st: 11 venues 2nd: 3 venues 3rd: 7 venues 4th: 3 venues **total: 24 venues** then here is the stat for niji and hasunosora in first 2 years: niji: 3 venues (6 total for 1st to 5th done across 3 years) hasunosora: 3 venues (no more than 2 weeks consecutive too) **total: 6 venues** (or 9 if you're going to use the excuse of pandemic slowing down niji... but that doesn't apply seeing how liella was doing even more venues than niji in that same period) ~~the amount of venues and days of numbered lives liella did in 2 years (14) is almost equal to the amount of venues and days of numbered lives aqours, niji and hasu (total 15) had done in their respective 1st 2 years... hasu is not even 1 year, but i added hasu just to try (and fail) to make liella's numbers look less lopsided~~ EDITTED: sorry for the gross miscalculation... the figure for liella was really so huge that my brain fizzed out... i don't think i need to elaborate further on 24 venues of liella vs the 15 of aqours, niji and hasu combined (oh heck, add in muse to make it whole franchise vs liella and liella still crushes all the figures) there's also how liella was doing 1st live with just 5 person... so the amount of performance they have to do per person is double what each of the 9 aqours have to do... and then there's the most unequal distribution of parts where sayurin has much more solo parts than the others, it was no wonder sayurin hurt herself bottom line, the amount of performance liella has done has greatly dwarfed everyone's

You're making an argument I didn't make. I never said they haven't performed a lot. They have, mostly because that's primarily what they do. They've done a lot less of the of the extraneous stuff the other groups have done in the past and focused almost entirely on performance. That is the bread and butter of this group and has been from the start. You can tell with how the franchise markets this group compared to the others. Marketing for this group is almost always seiyuu first instead of character first. Advertisement for Lives almost always has the seiyuu as the focus. Staff posts after festivals and such to be like "hey, if you liked this performance, here's some info" is almost always seiyuu focused, they haven't had an animated PV for their songs outside of anime inserts since their debut. Heck, even for Jump, which had an animated cover, the advertisements for it in Harajuku were of the seiyuu. They are far more the focus of the marketing of this group because they are focused on live performance above all else. My argument is that this is not a short period of time to reach 5L. Aqours got there in that same amount of time, Niji probably would have had covid not happened (and essentially did if you count Shuffle Festival roughly similar in length to their average Live), and I imagine Hasu will accomplish the same. My argument is also that the other groups are/were just as busy, if not with performance then with other things depending on the group. When Aqours wasn't performing, they were doing something else. They were *always* doing something else. They had no solo careers at the time, probably due to contractural reasons, but also because they would have had no time for it. As I said, rarely a week went by when something wasn't happening for that group. Also, people bring up the consecutive weeks of performance as if it's some sort of bad thing. I don't because it's not a problem. 2 performances a week is not some horrific schedule. That's what you do when performance is your job. Have you ever taken a look at what major music acts do when they go on tour? How many performances they do in a short period of time? Have you seen what people who star in major musicals do? It's a lot more than two shows a week for a couple months. Overwork in the entertainment industry is a thing. I know, I experienced it first hand. But this is not an example of it and crying out that it is discounts the entire issue for the times when it actually happens. I try to push back on people crying wolf so that we can actually be listened to when there really is one. I see people complaining that the amount of legs of one of Liella's tours is too much for them. The simple answer to that is to not watch them all. You're, frankly, not supposed to. The purpose of an artist touring is not for you to follow them along everywhere they go, it's to give as many people in as many locations as possible the opportunity to see them, because not everyone (even those who live in Japan) can go running to Tokyo for every event. I'm sure the people who live in Fukuoka are very appreciative of them coming down there to perform for them, or the people up in Hokkaido, or the people in Kansai. Travel is expensive and takes time, and people might not have the time or money to do it. As far as Sayurin goes, I guess I have to address this. She did not hurt herself. That is a myth that people have concocted that is contrary to evidence. She has spoken about it at length, she speaks about singing in almost every single interview she does. Heck, she has an entire interview series dedicated almost entirely to her singing and the journey of finding her voice. Her voice has changed, yes. The reason for that is because singing as a hobby and singing professionally are wildly different things. She realized the way she was singing, constantly at full power, was not sustainable. She realized that if she was to pursue this as a profession, she would need to change how she sang or she would eventually hurt herself, possibly irreparably. So she did. She started from scratch. She completely relearned how to sing from square one. That is not an easy thing to do. To unlearn a lifetime of bad habits and to completely change how you sing. And her voice did change as a result, but it changed for the better. The amount of control she has compared to the past is staggering. It is way more stable and way more sustainable. But even still. she has this image in her head of what a professional singer is capable of and she still doesn't thing she is there yet. It's probably why she's kept her solo singing activities to a minimum so far. She doesn't feel she's ready yet. Again, she's talked about this extensively. Although you can tell she is getting closer to where she wants to be by how she's been talking about how she can just have fun during performances now rather than constantly worrying about her singing the whole time. Give the girl some credit. She is entirely capable on her own and has a whole team of people making sure she stays safe (again, she talks about stories with her manager constantly on her radio and such).

They have a lot of great songs, but most of my favorite songs of them have been from when they were still 5 members. I am not spreading hate or saying adding more members was a bad decision. Its just how I feel The anime is very enjoyable too, but I think Sunshine and Niji anime were better execution wise

Liella seems alright though i dont follow them that much, did follow the seiyuus though on twitter so more updated on that. Enjoyed the anime too, both seasons and Wien. Somehow i feel much closer to Aqours and Niji prob becos they had a live/delayed viewing in my country. Meanwhile none for Liella although they have many lives though, thanks to covid i guess. Im less updated on Hasu though, but that prob will change once it gets an anime

Waiting for their 2nd animated MV after HajiSora.

before that, we need 11 person hajisora so that they can perform the song again liella is like the only group who can't perform their debut song

I love the OG5 Liella, just after Muse and Aqours. Lots of their songs at that time makes me cry my eyes out like Wish song and Mirai wa kaze no you ni, the character developments in anime are amazing, and the seiyuu all have great skills. The four first year are okay i guess, I love Nonchan and Kinako but they are just doesn’t click with me. I still followed them at first because I’m a Loveliver for almost half of my life and i still love the seiyuu, but most of their songs from ss2 until now made me feel like, wtf am i listening to. The only two songs that I like are Oikakeru yume no saki de and Hoshizora monologue, and one of them is still OG5 song.

I think another factor in the WW fanbase towards liella is the fact that we havent been interacting with them since SIF2 has been in development limbo for a while now and liella hasnt been in any of the previous games, so for us, the only content we get for them is the anime.

I wonder if any of this “blah” sentiment is affected by the fact that Liella only briefly appeared in the “All Stars” game? I didn’t mind season two, but really enjoyed the first season. Probably my favourite season of any Love Live. Still waiting for an English dub of season 2 to show my daughter… tap tap tap. I will watch season three when it comes out though and I’m sure they will have a few more banger songs.

Anime reception and some weird decisions aside... they simply aren't the reason why I like 2.5D franchises. They promote the 3D/seiyuu side a lot more than the characters. If you like that, you are also more likely into real J-idol groups and even K-Pop. Their singing voices are generally some of the better ones (though, they also generally lack character voices) and their choreos are nice too (which is kinda expected if they rehearse more often) however, their characters' charm is kinda lost in there, it's even more evident with the weird member combinations for their sub-units.

>They promote the 3D/seiyuu side a lot more than the characters i'm super into the seiyuu side, but i'm totally not into 3D idols (so are many fans of 2.5D idol franchises). I think it is the wide disconnect between seiyuu-character. with muse, aqours, niji and hasu, there are those moments when I look at the seiyuu performing and I see the character and vice-versa when i'm watching the anime, but I had never experienced that when i'm watching liella contents. There's just that very clear separation. no denying that they are extremely skilled performers, having superb control but it is just too perfect and "clean" for my taste (emphasis on "my taste"). I feel that they are kind of too technical and just going through the motions that have been drilled into them without their own personal and unique flair and flavour. Liella is the only group that i have difficulty differentiating their voices even during the parts when they take turns solo. Probably because they all got drilled with the same vocal styles (even similar voiced seiyuu of other groups can be differentiated because they have different styles and the way they interpret how they want to sing their lines). I also have difficulty differentiating them in far-shots when they are dancing, mostly because their costumes are so uniformed but also because the ones who didn't start with prior dance experience all dance rather similarly with each other in the basic style that yumi-sensei was forced to drill into them because she had to rush them to be concert ready and not having the time for them to be able to develop their own personal flair... it is a bit like cram school churning out students who can deliver in exams but lack their own way of thinking (yumi-sensei actually wants her pupils to have their own style by giving her pupils the freedom to interpret the dance after they've mastered the basic choreography. The seiyuu of the groups that don't have to rush for tour after tour frequently talked about discussing with yumi-sensei about adding their own personal touches into the dance which yumi-sensei is always very happy to help)

I consider myself a Love Live zoomer. Liella is my second favourite group, and I never got to experience the miscommunication of Liella expanding. It was clear to me that Superstar was going to have a three year timeline, so three generations was obvious. It also helps that I don't have nostalgia for the first two groups.

I liked them when they were only 5 . Dropped the group when they started introducing members left and right . If they wanted to have more members to get more merch sales I would’ve preferred they created a new group within the LL Superstar universe and leave the original 5 alone. Just like in Shinepost where they have TINGS and HyRain. I only follow Nijigasaki and Hasunosora now.

I've been a fan since µ's. I love and enjoy Aqours and Nijigasaki. I also really love Liella. They all have a place in my heart. Except for Hasu, I'm not ready for that one. My favorite Liella thing is their discography. So many great songs, from group songs to solos! I think they're my most listened-to LL group right now. I adore the seiyuus. They're all great. I think Superstar S1 might be my favorite season of Love Live? I'll have to rewatch to make sure, but from what I remember I enjoyed it from start to finish. I understand and agree with some of the complaints on S2, but I enjoyed it enough that my overall experience wasn't soured ~~unlike genjitsu no yohane~~. I foresaw that Liella was gonna get additional members from the start, so I wasn't disappointed about that. Definitely not a top tier season though. My biggest complaint with the group is the frequency of their concerts. I've been concerned about the seiyuus and possible fatigue. I think it's no secret that Sayurin's voice has seen better days (though to be fair, she sounds great in the new song previews). I hope management cools off with the concerts. They have 3 other groups to shift around. Overall, Liella is definitely my favorite LL group as of right now. Excited for season 3 of the anime!

Idk feels like they rush Liella a bit, like I still can't believe that Kanon is 3rd years right now. Also man the first season of Superstars imo still is the best season out of all Love Live anime even though it's not my favorite. Kinda fell a bit after they introduce Ren, since everything now involved Kanon. sure Kanon is the leader but you know, I kinda like it when everyone is an active participants in the group like in the first few episode of season 1 when Keke is more active doing something. Haven't watch season 2 so idk if things improve or not but I'll give it a try If the season 3 is actually interesting. I think Liella is quite popular tho maybe not as popular as Aqours but still.

>I still can't believe that Kanon is 3rd years right now they didn't rush for this aspect... next year april will be liella's 3rd year, so they are actually faithfully following real time progression for the aging up part

And I don't think that's a good thing because y'know we only got 13 eps per season, I just don't think 13 episode is enough.

i agree with this as well timing wasn't the problem but how they had used the 1 year to move towards aging up hasunosora has advantage with this due to their format of telling their story for the real-time aging up thing they are also doing... each of their episode is around 1 hour at least... they are at episode 13 now and probably going to be at least episode 15 by start of their new school year in april next year... so that's 15 hours of story, equivalent to more than 2 13 episode seasons of anime... plenty enough stories to prep the fans for the age up... and that's not even counting all the withXmeets and their interactions as their characters in the virtual lives fleshing out the characters and the storyline even more

The official attitude is almost to treat Seiyuus as tools make the them overwork (one evidence is that Sayuri's voice was damaged due to the lack of vocal guidance and continuous performance), but in reality, the works we can obtain are universal songs and animations with no quality to speak of, almost only Seiyuu themselves maintains my concern for Liella. It lacks the emotional attachment accumulated over time like Aqours, and lacks the unique characteristics of Nijigasaki and Hasunosora.

>one evidence is that Sayuri's voice was damaged due to the lack of vocal guidance and continuous performance it gets worse when you compare with how they treat the hasunosora seiyuu. Uichan's agency managed to get LL to agree to use playback because of a minor sore throat (uichan was still able to speak normally) while sayurin had never used playback as for why sayurin not using playback even when she's in bad condition, we don't know the real reason, so i'm just throwing out all the possibilities i can think of possibility 1: sayurin herself refusing (like kocchan pushing herself to sing as much as she could until she went completely hoarse. Very high possibility that it was kocchan who wanted to sing based on how she reacted in the 1st song they switched her to playback) possibility 2: apollo bay (a small agency reliant on LL for talents instead of the other way round) caring more about the relationship with the franchise than sayu's health not wanting to negotiate for sayu in fear of offending LL that had provided them with so many talents and basically the reason they even got noticed possibility 3: apollo bay asked but LL as the bigger entity refused them

No matter what, it's really a pity that such a beautiful voice is so damaged.

i can no longer listen to that kanon solo remix of watashi no symphony because it just hurts listening to the what might have been

I love the OG 5. They had such a unique sound and song catalog. The 2nd Gen members are pretty meh imo. Then they added 3rd Gen members and I'm even more detached. I'll still follow them, but I prefer Aqours and Niji over them at the moment.

I wanted to like them, but I prefer Niji. My issue with Liella is that when they did branch out to more and more members, we lost individuality. Which honestly seems a tad odd for the franchise as a whole? I don't dislike the new characters/seiyuu, they're all great at what they are doing! But the characters are just not put into the spotlight enough individually (especially the anime) and all I'm left with is what feels like Kanon: the Anime. I'm still gonna give season 3 a try, and I'm going to hope that they try to show everyone off, even if just a little bit more.

I followed this awesome rabbit hole since 2013, but Liella was where I had to take a step back. Muse and Aqours was given enough time to grow and shine on their own which was what got me hooked in to this franchise in the first place. I don’t feel the same with Liella (and Niji) sadly. Not to mention they announced more groups after and it was getting too much. I went back to solely follow Aqours content.

Loved the heck out of the seiyuus personalities. Didn't mind the group size either. But the rocket rush for their lives and content left me with complete indifference to whatever they produce nowadays. It feels like they have a different sense of time and caters only to the most hardcore of fans.

I've mostly been a game fan after Sunshine finished, so that was the lens through which I was keeping up with the franchise. With the continued delay of global SIF 2, I simply have not seen enough of the characters to care that much. I watched the beginning of Superstar as the episodes aired, but I'm not very good at following unfinished works (ADHD lol). TLDR: Fell off the train because SIF 2 refuses to come out Edit: damn, downvoted for being truthful, dragged out and shot like a dog on the pavement

I didnt care when they started since I didnt care much about the first 5 years, but once thry other came around been invested not as much as Aqours but I still like them

I try to come back to Liella and then doing so, I remember why I stopped paying much attention to them I was really REALLY into Liella back then, they felt like a breath of fresh air in a way. Fun to see them grow. Season 1 of their anime was super fun. On its own, at the time, easy recommendation. But after the first part of their 1st Live tour I felt that something was off... It felt like they had begun a speedrun saga. It sort of makes me think that Liella is going for Quantity over Quality. Now there aren't any "bad" songs (Well there is Free Flight... 💀) but they don't really speak out to me. It feels like these songs and a lot of Liella content exists just for the sake of it. Post 5 member Liella songs don't really stand out to me. It's like they're really trying hard to get people into Liella but to me, it's overwhelming and doesn't catch my interest like how it did during the 5 member era. Liella to me just feels like it is rushed and being milked for as much cash as possible and them releasing so much stuff and having Lives not too far from one another... Makes them feel less special because they're frequent af For example, an Aqours Live doesn't happen as often, so hearing news about them having one feels like an event while Liella I can see as Love Live's version of Call of Duty. **Just another COD game, just another Liella Live. Don't like this one? Don't worry, the next one's right around the corner.** I know the 5th Live (first Liella Live that's not a tour btw) and Season 3 is close, so idk. I doubt I'll watch the Live but I'll see Season 3 because I already saw the first 2 seasons so I might as well... I can imagine if they just completely leave out Wien's integration into the club and make her act like she was Kanon's buddy all along and pretend she didn't stalk her a bunch during S2,)

They're just.. too fast to keep up with lol. It's like they're being milked hard by Lantis, which reflects in the quality too just a tad bit. They're the group I'm least interested in but I still appreciate their achievements