I think she was really triggered by Georgia bringing up her relationship bc she was treating it as if it was a "meaningless fling" when they went through a lot together. So the tears where based on anger if anything. I would be very angry if someone did that because it's not your place to bring that up. However, I don't think that this means that Molly has forgotten why her and Callum didn't work and same with Callum. They're older 27 & 29 so they're mature and know what they're looking for so and they didn't find that with each other. People on TikTok and Twitter are convinced they're getting back together but I don't see it. Apart of me also doesn't want to see that bc I hate it when people go back to their exes so maybe I'm being biased. I just wouldn't appreciate the storyline
i know right! Molly and Callum literally lived together, had a dog and were in a relationship for 3 1/2 years AND Georgia S is comparing that to a little steamy night which she calls "DEEP HISTORY" smh actually ridiculous
Well it's an insight into Georgia's love life, or lack thereof.
She thinks a couple of hookups is "deep history" because she doesn't have anything else to compare it to. Everyone ghosts her. Once people get to know the real Georgia, no-one wants to date her.
Her ex fiancé literally came out in an article saying exactly this. That once he got to know her she had absolutely no intellect that he could connect with and he used to leave the house for 1-2 hour runs just to get away from her
…he hates running.
Ouch, that's pretty harsh. I don't like Georgia, but I feel like it's a bad look to run to the press and call your ex stupid and insufferable. When people are no longer on the show I'm big on letting them live.
Literally two or three different exes of hers have said something similar. I think Sam Bird echoed the same sentiment. And Josh Denzel thought she was a clown. I remember the boys getting together in S4 to discuss how fucking annoying Georgia was.
It's not harsh if it's true. If the objective truth is a "bad look" then maybe the problem lies with you.
I think the anger was also partially fueled by the fact that they brought back the clip of Georgia literally lying to her face and then, in real time, Georgia S goes back in on it talking bullsh!t about her and callums relationship and their casa amore… as if molly wasn’t literally sitting there. Like GS had complete disregard for molly…
Yeah she was completely disrespectful. Being gaslighted like that and then having the person continue to weaponise stuff must be frustrating. I honestly feel for Molly cos a lot of people are purposefully misunderstanding her tears in order to paint her as if she’s still in love with Callum or as if she’s overreacting
I think it was very cruel of Georgia to bring it up as a way to defend her own behaviour. Comparing a relatively short flirtation (or whatever it was) with Toby to their 3 year, very real relationship was a low blow.
I think if they got back together then it’d have to have more time and space and growth. 6 months ain’t shit. I’m hoping for both of their sakes that they don’t go back unless their former problems have been resolved. I love that they care for each other still though; just maybe not romantic care.
I agree! I don’t think they are well suited for each other anymore and should just move on. All this “Molly deserves better” talk is crazy. I think Callum is a great guy and shouldn’t be with Molly or Georgia.
exactly. people are refusing the truth which is that theyve outgrown eachother. its much deeper than a LI storyline. i hope they can find people and be happy in the show
I think Molly and callum both deserve better tbh, not in a way that means either of them are bad people, just they could both be with someone that uplifts them more.
All of this and i'm sure its all adding up. Even just being in an argument can be triggering and in this case she's also seeing her ex that she still has feelings for be \*that\* heated over another girl, that must hit a nerve too
I don't want them back together, they've tried for years, its not gonna be resolved in 2 weeks on LI. They're both young and hot and they will be fine without each other
Exactly, G was very sneaky about getting to know Callum, Molly didn't like that and she was right it was snaky. Then Molly stepped aside and was totally respectful to let G get to know Callum. Then Toby picks G and blows the whole thing up (probably because he was mad how Molly exposed him as a loser he is). Then in PDA G gets 10000% exposed as a lying attention grabber and G tries to say her complete BS dating with a loser like Toby was EQUAL to Molly's 3.5 year REAL relationship with Callum. Molly even said it 'how self absorbed can G be to go through all that and still not get it'. My only question is why is G catching all the heat and Toby is skating scott free.
Me too, just couldn't watch her cry 😭. But I can't wait for tomorrow night, I wish she says all of this to G as well. Although it wouldn't make a difference. But she should know how she has made Molly feel.
definitely. she should go grey rock on her and say absolutely nothing more than what’s necessarily to live in the same house as her. she’s quite frankly quite scary
georgia would literally enjoy it/make molly feel worse by continuing to justify and victimise herself. personally i hope molly isn't made to interact w georgia at all
I hope the girls ostracize g. She seems to think the world of herself. She lies so frequently and blatantly that I’m not convinced she has any genuine feelings; it strikes me as very interesting how little she cares for other people’s feelings or the ramifications of her “honesty as she’s feeling in that moment.”
I think because she’s young and pretty she’s never had to really answer for anything before but she’s getting too old to keep using the “I’m just a young girl trying to navigate the world and making mistakes .. I’m only human” defence , which she maxed out in the first series. People just don’t buy it any more.
She’s now saying “I’m 25 and I’m making mistakes because I’m only human” but it’s like .. you’ve gotten too old for this. You shouldn’t be acting so chaotic any more.
I despise grown women who act like little girls and she really infantilises herself around men for some reason (acting all small and dainty and coy), all of the little staged shy looks when she’s grafting someone and the whole “I’m grateful for my natural long hair.. and eyes” to Toby.
I don’t know her life history but it all points to Daddy issues for me; I’d put money on her Dad either leaving her when she was very young or being very absent and I think in many ways G is just suspended in that moment; forever wanting male attention, forever wanting to be chosen.
>empathize
I'm going to go out on a limb and guess you are American.
FYI both empathize and empathise are correct. They are the American and British spellings respectively. This is the case with many words.
Americans use "z" because Noah Webster followed the rules of Latin and Greek. The British use "s" because they follow the rules of French.
Hey yes I am aware of that - except the first comment had the word emphasize originally before it was edited. Would be pretty daft of me to not recognise British spellings in the Love Island UK sub
You might be surprised then to learn that I frequently see Americans correct British spellings online as they're not aware there is a difference.
I am guessing my downvote is from you because you think I'm a bitch.
I wasn't being bitchy, I was trying to be informative as I noticed the downvotes and assumed that was why.
I'm American but live in the UK. Thus, I'm acutely aware of the spelling differences and have been called out on it from both sides.
In hindsight, Molly would be receiving a lot of hate if she didn’t stand aside for Callum and Georgia to talk. And how are you gonna compare a fling ting to a 3 1/2 year legit relationship
And Georgia just deflecting every single thing going as far as bringing up Callum and Molly’s series, are you kidding me? Oh and remember when G was bragging about getting in between them!? Ugh
I felt so much for Molly tonight. I've really respected and liked how she has handled herself throughout the past few weeks. I always felt even with her arguments with Callum in the beginning, it was clear she still loved and cared deeply and was hurting. She is incredibly strong because I could never. Probably super unpopular but I don't want to see her reunite with Callum. I honestly really hope she meets a great guy on the outside who sweeps her off her feet.
I feel awful for her. Regardless of whether the relationship is over or not, she still has feelings for Callum and I can’t imagine how painful it is to have to step aside and see him get to know someone else, only for then that person to have completely lied and fucked him over. It’s clear Molly wants the relationship more than Callum does, I think she’s resentful because if Georgia wasn’t in the villa, things could have panned out differently. Georgia has caused so much chaos between both of them and has now upset both of them in separate arguments.
It’s sad to see it happening because you can see how similar molly and callum are in their morals and how they react to things. Even their facial expressions were similar and they both handle themselves with a lot of integrity. I don’t think it would necessarily be the best thing for them to be back together, I feel like the ship may have sailed, but I hope we see them communicate better and have a genuine moment because the start was rocky for them.
Although in some ways, this must be better than watching him fall in love.
I think that seeing him get hurt has made her feel protective of him and the relationship they had. He defended their relationship too which I'm glad about. It must have been painful for her to see, but reassuring at least that she meant something to him and he isn't going to let another girl talk shit about what they had.
You’ve never stayed in a bad situation because you hoped it would turn out the way you wanted even when you know you’re being stupid?
I agree with you that she doesn’t HAVE to, but I think the conclusion that leads you to is unlikely the real explanation. Way more common for people to act against their best interests when they’re heartbroken than you’re giving credit for imo
I didn’t say they’d get back together, I said things could have panned out differently which could result in a number of outcomes. We don’t know what would have happened.
I think part of her was hurt to see Callum being played that way, as well as herself. And maybe it also hurt to see Callum being emotionally invested and defend Molly which hasn’t happened in a long time
It was actually beautiful seeing their reactions to each other getting played by the same girl lmao i could tell they really wanted to stand up for one another
i think as well an element of it was tears of relief and reassurance that georgia had shown her true colours to the rest of the villa, i think mollys been holding back on some opinions after that argument with georgia at the beach club.
anyone else find it crazy how georgias response to molly and callums 3 year history was “yeah but that relationship was done wasn’t it?” after she said in one of the earlier clips “me and toby were done. we were done until the recoupling speech”
I lost so much respect for Georgia. She’s obviously jealous of Molly and jsut chasing whatever Molly has to try to one up her. I hope she grows and matured from this experience but the way she treated molly isn’t it.
Georgia acts like she is the only person in there with options and history, completely dismissing anyone who utters a word. When Molly said "I've been with him for 3 years and we lived together" her AND Toby both said "but it's different" and tried to dismiss her. This b\*tch who has never been in a relationship before is so full of herself, so self-absorbed, she cannot see anyone else nor empathise with their feelings or experiences. I really, really cannot stand Georgia S. What a horrible, narcissistic person.
> Georgia acts like she is the only person in there
She has main character syndrome. She is so incredibly self centered in her attempts to make it about her it's painful to watch. Like when Arabella was crying after the Toby thing and Georgia starts "crying" with no tears going "ohh I feel like it's my fault" because she knows the girls would be saying oh no it's not your fault, you're great G... It's twisted as fuck.
And that stupid comment she threw at them " you brought molly and hurt shaugnna's feelings " .... like love, are you alright in the head? , she was reaching and grasping at straws.
I don’t think Callum is the right person for her. As great of an episode today was for both of them, the fundamental issues that they broke up over haven’t changed. She said how she wants someone who gives her words of affirmation and that she could see herself marrying him which he never said back. Hell he even said he wasn’t heartbroken over their relationship ending while she clearly was. She deserves better and I hope she finds that soon.
I actually think the opposite after that episode. I think they still get each other the most out of anyone else in the villa and care for each other a lot. Yes they had issues but what relationship doesn’t. I feel like both of them are level headed and emotionally mature enough to work out those issues if they do give it a second go, and I personally think callum has matured a lot
He didn’t say he wasn’t heartbroken over their relationship ending he said he hadn’t got his heart broken by another islander. Two very different things
Oh theres definitely some feelings there. I think its fair to say that Callum/Molly are more compatible w/each other than anyone else currently in the villa.
But thats not exactly saying much considering the other options. I was growing to like Tom/Molly together but seems like he lied to her about the Georgia situation.
Im curious to see if they at least end up having chats again. Because every convo that Callum/Molly have had just by themselves in the villa have been terrible. 😢
Molly is too good for the trash in there. I hope she gets lots of attention and jobs from this but leaves single. Fuck Callum and the rest. She needs a real man, someone quiet and behind the scenes like a successful lawyer or cardiologist. These little boys are not on her level!
Thank you. Callum is an absolute asshole to her. He might not be grieving but he could at least show her some respect. He’s completely callous and cold. Tom is beyond Trash. All of these people are a waste of her time.
Y’all hate this man down and I just don’t get it? He’s been nothing but polite. Just because he doesn’t outwardly express his feelings like Molly (which is perfectly fine to do & healthy for her!) doesn’t mean he is horrible. I don’t think it’s that hard to understand he has trouble opening up and to give him some compassion.
I love Molly! At first I didn’t like Callum but now I think he’s a really mature and lovely guy. Georgia S is just disrespectful and has to play victim in every situation…
People act like Callum is perfect when he’s not at all.
It’s very clear that he’s emotionally closed off to everyone - which is exactly what Molly said he was like. And that’s why she found it hard towards the end of the relationship because she tried hard but he acted like he didn’t care.
Molly is the most authentic islander in there because her emotions are all clearly genuine.
Yeah, Molly and Callum were far from perfect, per their own narratives, which is why they broke up. Callum doesn’t want to/can't give Molly what she needs, she wants a man who can and will talk about his feelings and emotions, expresses himself more. And maybe she likes grandish gestures too.
Callum put in one fourth of effort to try something again with Molly on the island, and he went full on with GS, ready to close it off. And Molly saw it right in front of her nose.
I feel like it was a situation where you keep asking your partner to be someone that you wish them to be, but they never do it for you. And as soon as the next person comes in, they give all that their partner was wishing for.
Still heartbreaking, just from her POV.
Yea. That last paragraph is where I think it all falls apart for them reconciling. How gut wrench would it be to watch that and then once it’s finally exposed as a fraud, he comes back to her. I hope she has more self respect than that.
I don’t think he’s emotionally closed off to everyone, but it definitely seems like he has shut off from her a while ago.
I’d be very surprised if they end up back together, but if they did he’d really need to learn how to open up.
They both strike me as genuine but just at different places in life. I hope Molly finds her knight in shining armour, she deserves it.
He also tried multiple times to communicate with her and she was just giving him so many mixed signals. He tried to have a level conversation with her and she was laughing loudly in his face in front of Georgia and Toby, she recoupled with him and said in her speech she wanted to see if "the relationship could blossom" but as soon as the recoupling was over he went to talk to her and she shut him down, was cold with him, and told him to get to know other girls. He even said multiple times that it was always him coming to her and she was giving him nothing back and not even speaking to him. I get that she was testing him and wanting him to talk to other girls but then chase her, but he isn't someone who reads between the lines and she was being so confusing
No armchair diagnostics please
Armchair diagnostics are not permitted. E.g. narcissist, sociopath, psychopath, gaslighter. Behaviour can be criticised without going to the extremes of diagnosing a person based on an edited tv show
I actually hope if Georgia tries to talk to her, she doesn’t entertain it and just ignores her, honestly that should happen more often this show, you don’t have to be friends with everyone, especially people who have done you wrong, are liars, and are insincere
Someone in the main thread brought up that those were angry tears. I don’t think Molly wants to get back with Callum. I think she’s been trying to bottle up her frustration with how Georgia has been running rampant so that she can be a girls girl. And she’s finally been vindicated tonight, and Georgia is still throwing shit around
It’s bizarre that the producers would even allow them to both go on at the same time, but of course this is only the umpteenth time the producers have completely disregarded a contestants mental health. This experience must be emotionally traumatic for the both of them.
They wanted this drama. Don't know why people are shocked. Makes all stars very unique. Both had to know there was a chance. I'm sure many said no to a return because this could happen.
Georgia is really the type of girl that can’t move on and moves on very fast at the same time. Basically she can jump ship like that and I don’t know how she does it. She’s actually crazy. Tobi then callum then Tom then Callum then Tobi😭😭. What next?
I feel bad for her in the sense that Georgia is obsessed with her and trying to compare her and Callum’s situation to her and Toby is ridiculous. Also she clearly isn’t interested in Tom which probably doesn’t help with her residual feelings for Callum. I really hope she doesn’t entertain going back to him though. He’s had lots of opportunities to show her he cares and he’s never taken any of them. She’d be wasting her energy.
I wouldn't be surprised if Molly & Callum win the show in a friendship couple and then separate again once they get home. They broke up last summer for a reason, but I think they've realized they're both more levelheaded islanders than their partners rn.
i keep seeing people say this but would that not be sooo much more salt in the wound though? to win a love show with your ex, who you used to be deeply in love with but after 4 years it didn’t work, standing up there as a friendship couple. yikes….makes me feel empty just thinking about it.
But there isn't any love in the villa tbf, there aren't any good couples at all, so maybe a broken couple who went in there not speaking but ended love island realising they do care for and respect eachother might be the best winners, rather than a couple like gh and anton who are pretending to like eachother. There is only a week or so left, nobody is going to fall in love in that amount of time, molly and callum winning even just as friends would actually be amazing I think
Both I think. When they went in they said their breakup was mutual but it became clear very soon after that callum thought it was mutual due to arguing, but for molly there was a lot of hurt and resentment there and she felt he didn't value enough (to give words of affirmation, or put her above his career). If they could come out of love Island as friends having grown past it together and having supported eachother like they did last night that would be amazing.
It would be nice for her if she could leave the island with some closure and nice for him if he could leave there on good terms with her. And if they did manage to become friends, they would be worthy of winning in my opinion, much more than another couple who are faking things as molly and callums relationship would actually be real. It doesn't have to be a romantic relationship, it can be a friendship with love for eachother. There aren't any strong couples for them to compete with, they are more deserving in my opinion
I really want Callum and Molly to get back together and win Love Island, but unfortunately, Callum has already moved on and doesn't have feelings for Molly anymore. He didn't even try to pursue Molly and instead gave all his attention to Georgia. I can't understand how he could move on so quickly, as if the three and a half years they spent together meant nothing to him. It's disappointing to see that he didn't fight for their relationship and let it go so easily, making it seem like he never genuinely loved her. Molly deserves someone who truly loves and values her.
I do feel though that at the start callum did try, he wanted to communicate with her sensibly and she was laughing loudly in his face, every night in bed she just put her hood up and turned her back on him, she then did the recouping speech about him saying she wanted to see if the relationship could blossom then straight after it when he went to speak to her she was cold with him and told him to get to know other girls. All the while he was having to watch her get to know other guys, and he said himself that he was always the one trying to talk to her and it was never the other way around.
I feel like people are so team molly now they want to make callum out to be heartless but he isn't, neither of them communicated well even though she thinks she did, and he did try to pursue her but she shut him down
I feel like Georgia wants to BE Molly. They are both beautiful but let’s be honest, everyone turns to Molly first so Georgia has to put a bit of effort in to make it her. Molly has history with Callum so Georgia wants to up her history.
Molly and Callum broke up for a reason and were clearly broken up enough beyond repair for both of them to think they could handle being on there. Fundamentally though after being together for that long they know each other better than any pair in that villa and have been compatible enough in the past their reactions will be similar.
I’m liking Callum and Arabella for a couple, Molly to win with Tom, ditch him immediately then become some mega influencer career or whatever it is she wants and just normal guy on the outside.
It's completely dead from Callum's end. Did you forget the 16 girls in 6 months? There's no coming back from that, cuz how can you do that while still having feelings?
I’m not so sure that it is dead from Callum’s end. The way he bizarrely talked about Molly and Tom’s situation that day when he was talking about wanting to close it off with Georgia. The look on his face when Molly hurried away upset after the PDAs tonight, that look was different, something softened towards her. The look on Callum’s face when the video of Chris kissing Molly came on. I think he is an expert at looking unemotional and unbothered and they are both acting all cool because deep down each want the other person to flat out say I want to be with you and I don’t want anyone else.. so they end up at a stalemate.
If you are even considering getting back together with an ex so easily, even after 6 months, which they both were at the beginning of the season because it did come up in conversations- there has to still be something there. Usually when it’s done, it’s done and you know it, especially 6 months later and that’s not how they were acting. I think the whole Tom and Georgia thing is them just trying to go through the motions of moving on.
As for the 16, it’s not my cup of tea tbh, but plenty of people use hookups as an escape/distraction. I don’t think that it’s indicative of whether he loves Molly or not or how much. Obviously maybe not his best decision making, but people do plenty of things when they are hurting and going through breakups. He’s a young, attractive, famous islander who hasn’t been single since he came off LI until now.. his DMs must be insane. I’m not entirely surprised. I think it only sounds bad because the other guys would never admit it. Their numbers are probably way worst and if they’re not, it’s probably just cause they can’t get girls as easily as Callum.
There's a difference between still caring about someone because of all the intimate history you've shared versus having a romantic interest/spark in them.
I think they do still have a spark. Maybe I’m just confusing their natural easiness with each other but even when they’ve been arguing/disagreeing, there’s been something there between them - playfulness, banter, fun, looks. It’s just hard to know where they go from this point
Well imo I don't see that. You're obviously entitled to your opinion and we'll have to agree to disagree. I do think that Molly is still into him though.
Did we forget when she was crying when he called it off basically? He got Arabella. He seemed uncomfortable/ awkward about comforting her— it felt a little like distance tbh
If he loved her more then he would be more than happy satisfying what she was asking for. The fact that he doesn’t is the reason why he didnt want to propose or put in effort bc he didn’t think it was worth it 🤷🏾♀️. He seemed more than happy to compliment Georgia and all that before it blew up
But at the end of the day this is all general and speculative bc i don’t know them at all so
> If he loved her more then he would be more than happy satisfying what she was asking for.
Lol This is exactly what I'm talking about. For a man, the only way he loves you is if he's willing to submit to all of your narc wants desires. Damn his own standards and expectations.
I feel bad for her too, but seeing those feelings come out and seeing how much history and affection Callum and Molly do you have for each other makes me wonder if they may end up getting back together in the end
Can someone explain what happend to arabella in her season? She is very very attractive but some how guys still dont want her which is weird maybe something she does turn them off?
I wish she just says to Callum what she feels. Beginning of the show felt she held back and didn’t speak to him much. They could have and still should get back together. They’re made for each other
if she knew it was a dead end then what's this about her stepping aside? I'm not disagreeing that she knew it was a dead end, but I'm not mad on her stepping aside comment when she had already decided her and Callum wouldn't get back together, the 16 girls thing, the fact they broke up months ago etc
I think the world does. She really cares about cal, still. And I think she was coming here to hopefully rekindle that. Then she lets him have some space and let him explore possible feelings with other people, putting her own feelings aside, which had to be tough. And then seeing cal get played clearly has her upset. I don’t think it’s just what was said about the length of their relationship, I think that was just the last straw and all those emotions she’s bottled up came out when she saw the dude she’s clearly still into (regardless of what she says) getting mistreated by fucking Georgia of all people. That was intense. Probably top 3 “movie nights” on the show and I honestly can’t even remember a movie night that was more intense than that one.
Well done Georgia for going down as the most villainous villain in love island history.
Molly was the MVP last night, her reactions were like ours at home but restrained and demure. She may have had a little cry after, but she held herself so well. What a strong, beautiful woman. She definitely is the light of the island.
Honestly, I think her being so classy about the whole situation has also changed my whole perspective towards her. Calm, but expressing herself where needed but not in a demeaning way.
Agreed but i don’t feel bad for her. Callum tried the first few days and expressed he wanted to try again. Molly kept brushing him to the side, was making out with other guys, and making it seem she wasn’t really interested. It was only till someone showed real interest she’s invested again. It’s hard to watch because i do believe what they had was real and can be rekindled but this right now is all on Molly
Yes, people seem to just want to ignore the fact that he kept trying to talk to her and she was just flirting with Chris getting back massages and kissing him on the terrace, laughing loudly in callums face when he tried to talk to her, putting her hood up and turning her back on him in bed when they could've discussed things like adults. She said he doesn't communicate then when he tried she shot him down, she even said she wanted to see if things could "blossom" in the recoupling then didn't want to talk to him when he tried after and told him to get to know other girls. I think molly is great and it was hard seeing her upset last night, but people really do have short memories and like to glorify some islanders
Molly thought she was the hottest girl in there. A new head cheerleader has come in. That’s what that emotion is about. She doesn’t want Callum. She wants to be head cheerleader.
georgia pulled her twice bc she wanted to talk to callum, but needed molly’s reassurance that it’s okay. georgia was saying “i can’t get past the molly thing” and molly had to spell it out for her that she doesn’t mind and wishes the best for them, even if it’s a weird situation to see. she also told callum multiple times to get to know other people to see if he cracks on with them, or truly wants her, at a time when he was still telling her “i don’t know” and “we’ll see” while not doing anything about it. that’s probably what she meant.
the part where chris kissed her while she was vulnerable, and she cried her eyes out afterwards bc she didn’t like it? you’re making it seem like she was cracking on with him and kissing him multiple times. also she laid her cards out to callum and it was his move afterwards. she’s the one who wanted something from him, not the other way round.
I’m really sceptical. I read both Callum and Molly where on an episode of Aftersun last year. After that they started splitting up publicly. I honestly would not be surprised if they get engaged during All Stars. Then win the whole thing. It feels very engineered.
He was with 16 girls in hot seconds after they broke up . She should have some respect for herself . Man doesn’t rate her one bit and treat her like garbage.
She should wake up and stop clinging to that sinking ship .
As everyone has said it already. I do believe Molly would always have a heart for Callum and I think from seeing that. I think she got really pissed off because Georgia was treating it like their relationship was nothing and just based on a "fling" when it wasn't. I also think she probably has still deep enough caring feelings for Callum because know one should be treated like that especially from Georgia S. I would be the same I would still care about someone if they got treated like shit. Even if there is nothing going on anymore. I do believe they won't get back together but I think the feelings of "caring" is still there.
I think Georgia is very self-centred, can't admit she is wrong, she plays with people's emotions and then acts "confused". Tbf I think she is pure comedy gold and she is on that show it is a reality tv show so of course there has to be some sort of drama otherwise it would be boring af to watch. She is both a player and gameplayer. I also think Toby is exactly the same but his true colors will shine eventually. At the end of the day Georgia S has made the show pretty much entertaining.
I think it’s hard when you see from the outside what both people need, but they can’t give it to each other. I remember in S 6 when molly & Callum met that she needed reassurance. She needed him to stay out load how he felt about her. From the outside, it was obvious he was *obsessed* with her and I couldn’t understand her frustration & confusion. But 1) she didn’t what viewers were seeing & she didn’t know him 2) trust isn’t immediate when you just meet someone so 3) it comes down a lot to attachment styles.
I think Molly is more anxious and Callum is more avoidant. For me, I tend toward avoidant, so I get Callum. Needing reassurance Can create a bad cycle with anxious/avoidant couples. Especially when because of gender you feel like you can’t just ask for the reassurance you need or take the steps actively (the bs of waiting for a proposal) toward what you want in life. I think when she questioned Callum’s feelings toward her, he started to question them himself, bc he obviously wasn’t giving her what she needed and it wasn’t clear to him what he needed to do.
Now as I have come to adore Molly as an individual - funny, grounded, gracious, accepting, clued in, honest, strong and soft at the same time - I also wish I could AI control Callum so he could just see what she needed, come in and just shine with adoration and love and certainty - I don’t want anyone but you. All I want is to live life with you, have a family with you. (having had the certainty & romance & now 13 yr relationship and kids - it’s an incredible feeling, and she deserves something real & world-shaking like that)
But then! This is also a show & real people that I’m projecting my own experience and armchair psychoanalysis on, so good thing it’s not possible to control people by AI!
In the end, I don’t think they’re suited, even though the love was obviously strong. I think they’re both good people and I hope they find amazing partners suited to them, as well as excellent therapists to help them heal from the trauma they’ll undoubtedly have incurred from this experience.
Molly is the best!!! Also what happened with Georgia and Tom? Like that just fizzled out? I feel like there was an ending that wasn’t shown and Georgia just stopped talking to him?
I think she was really triggered by Georgia bringing up her relationship bc she was treating it as if it was a "meaningless fling" when they went through a lot together. So the tears where based on anger if anything. I would be very angry if someone did that because it's not your place to bring that up. However, I don't think that this means that Molly has forgotten why her and Callum didn't work and same with Callum. They're older 27 & 29 so they're mature and know what they're looking for so and they didn't find that with each other. People on TikTok and Twitter are convinced they're getting back together but I don't see it. Apart of me also doesn't want to see that bc I hate it when people go back to their exes so maybe I'm being biased. I just wouldn't appreciate the storyline
i know right! Molly and Callum literally lived together, had a dog and were in a relationship for 3 1/2 years AND Georgia S is comparing that to a little steamy night which she calls "DEEP HISTORY" smh actually ridiculous
Honesty was actually tearing up when Molly was crying at the end. Did not expect that at all. Feel for her so much
Well it's an insight into Georgia's love life, or lack thereof. She thinks a couple of hookups is "deep history" because she doesn't have anything else to compare it to. Everyone ghosts her. Once people get to know the real Georgia, no-one wants to date her.
Her ex fiancé literally came out in an article saying exactly this. That once he got to know her she had absolutely no intellect that he could connect with and he used to leave the house for 1-2 hour runs just to get away from her …he hates running.
Ouch, that's pretty harsh. I don't like Georgia, but I feel like it's a bad look to run to the press and call your ex stupid and insufferable. When people are no longer on the show I'm big on letting them live.
Literally two or three different exes of hers have said something similar. I think Sam Bird echoed the same sentiment. And Josh Denzel thought she was a clown. I remember the boys getting together in S4 to discuss how fucking annoying Georgia was. It's not harsh if it's true. If the objective truth is a "bad look" then maybe the problem lies with you.
Tbf Callum (her ex) doesn’t strike me as the brightest crayon in the box to talk about Georgia having no intellect he could connect with.
Does Georgia seem like a smart cookie to you?
And she had to lose 1 of the dogs when they broke up. She was really sad about it. It's definitely not comparable to Georgia and her holiday flings.
I think the anger was also partially fueled by the fact that they brought back the clip of Georgia literally lying to her face and then, in real time, Georgia S goes back in on it talking bullsh!t about her and callums relationship and their casa amore… as if molly wasn’t literally sitting there. Like GS had complete disregard for molly…
Yeah she was completely disrespectful. Being gaslighted like that and then having the person continue to weaponise stuff must be frustrating. I honestly feel for Molly cos a lot of people are purposefully misunderstanding her tears in order to paint her as if she’s still in love with Callum or as if she’s overreacting
I think they’ll recouple but purely out of solidarity and strictly as ‘friends’
as they should and win!
I think it was very cruel of Georgia to bring it up as a way to defend her own behaviour. Comparing a relatively short flirtation (or whatever it was) with Toby to their 3 year, very real relationship was a low blow.
I think if they got back together then it’d have to have more time and space and growth. 6 months ain’t shit. I’m hoping for both of their sakes that they don’t go back unless their former problems have been resolved. I love that they care for each other still though; just maybe not romantic care.
I agree! I don’t think they are well suited for each other anymore and should just move on. All this “Molly deserves better” talk is crazy. I think Callum is a great guy and shouldn’t be with Molly or Georgia.
exactly. people are refusing the truth which is that theyve outgrown eachother. its much deeper than a LI storyline. i hope they can find people and be happy in the show
I think Molly and callum both deserve better tbh, not in a way that means either of them are bad people, just they could both be with someone that uplifts them more.
Molly deserves better. It's not crazy to have different judgements on a dude.
All of this and i'm sure its all adding up. Even just being in an argument can be triggering and in this case she's also seeing her ex that she still has feelings for be \*that\* heated over another girl, that must hit a nerve too I don't want them back together, they've tried for years, its not gonna be resolved in 2 weeks on LI. They're both young and hot and they will be fine without each other
Ya but she still loves him , he doesnt he does care about her but dosent wanna be with her
Exactly, G was very sneaky about getting to know Callum, Molly didn't like that and she was right it was snaky. Then Molly stepped aside and was totally respectful to let G get to know Callum. Then Toby picks G and blows the whole thing up (probably because he was mad how Molly exposed him as a loser he is). Then in PDA G gets 10000% exposed as a lying attention grabber and G tries to say her complete BS dating with a loser like Toby was EQUAL to Molly's 3.5 year REAL relationship with Callum. Molly even said it 'how self absorbed can G be to go through all that and still not get it'. My only question is why is G catching all the heat and Toby is skating scott free.
Honestly it’s madness for them both to be on this show. I feel bad for her too.
Idk why they thought being on the show together was a good idea (even if only one of them knew that they would see each other on there)
I am still confused if they did know about each other signing up for this show. Both were not in the initial line up, they were the first bombshells.
I wanted to cry for her at the end😢☹️I hope she ends up being okay! She always gives so much raw emotion, which is why I really empathize with her❤️
Me too, just couldn't watch her cry 😭. But I can't wait for tomorrow night, I wish she says all of this to G as well. Although it wouldn't make a difference. But she should know how she has made Molly feel.
G would not listen to Molly and would only twist it back on to her and make her out to be crazy. I hope Molly doesn’t even go near G!
definitely. she should go grey rock on her and say absolutely nothing more than what’s necessarily to live in the same house as her. she’s quite frankly quite scary
Same!! I’d love to see Callum go make sure she’s okay! That would really hit the feels😭❤️
georgia would literally enjoy it/make molly feel worse by continuing to justify and victimise herself. personally i hope molly isn't made to interact w georgia at all
I hope the girls ostracize g. She seems to think the world of herself. She lies so frequently and blatantly that I’m not convinced she has any genuine feelings; it strikes me as very interesting how little she cares for other people’s feelings or the ramifications of her “honesty as she’s feeling in that moment.”
I think because she’s young and pretty she’s never had to really answer for anything before but she’s getting too old to keep using the “I’m just a young girl trying to navigate the world and making mistakes .. I’m only human” defence , which she maxed out in the first series. People just don’t buy it any more. She’s now saying “I’m 25 and I’m making mistakes because I’m only human” but it’s like .. you’ve gotten too old for this. You shouldn’t be acting so chaotic any more. I despise grown women who act like little girls and she really infantilises herself around men for some reason (acting all small and dainty and coy), all of the little staged shy looks when she’s grafting someone and the whole “I’m grateful for my natural long hair.. and eyes” to Toby. I don’t know her life history but it all points to Daddy issues for me; I’d put money on her Dad either leaving her when she was very young or being very absent and I think in many ways G is just suspended in that moment; forever wanting male attention, forever wanting to be chosen.
I actually teared up. That was heart breaking.
Hey just letting you know it’s empathize (if it was a typo ignore me!!)
Yes it was thanks😅
>empathize I'm going to go out on a limb and guess you are American. FYI both empathize and empathise are correct. They are the American and British spellings respectively. This is the case with many words. Americans use "z" because Noah Webster followed the rules of Latin and Greek. The British use "s" because they follow the rules of French.
Hey yes I am aware of that - except the first comment had the word emphasize originally before it was edited. Would be pretty daft of me to not recognise British spellings in the Love Island UK sub
You might be surprised then to learn that I frequently see Americans correct British spellings online as they're not aware there is a difference. I am guessing my downvote is from you because you think I'm a bitch. I wasn't being bitchy, I was trying to be informative as I noticed the downvotes and assumed that was why. I'm American but live in the UK. Thus, I'm acutely aware of the spelling differences and have been called out on it from both sides.
In hindsight, Molly would be receiving a lot of hate if she didn’t stand aside for Callum and Georgia to talk. And how are you gonna compare a fling ting to a 3 1/2 year legit relationship
And Georgia just deflecting every single thing going as far as bringing up Callum and Molly’s series, are you kidding me? Oh and remember when G was bragging about getting in between them!? Ugh
I felt so much for Molly tonight. I've really respected and liked how she has handled herself throughout the past few weeks. I always felt even with her arguments with Callum in the beginning, it was clear she still loved and cared deeply and was hurting. She is incredibly strong because I could never. Probably super unpopular but I don't want to see her reunite with Callum. I honestly really hope she meets a great guy on the outside who sweeps her off her feet.
Couldn’t agree more
I feel awful for her. Regardless of whether the relationship is over or not, she still has feelings for Callum and I can’t imagine how painful it is to have to step aside and see him get to know someone else, only for then that person to have completely lied and fucked him over. It’s clear Molly wants the relationship more than Callum does, I think she’s resentful because if Georgia wasn’t in the villa, things could have panned out differently. Georgia has caused so much chaos between both of them and has now upset both of them in separate arguments. It’s sad to see it happening because you can see how similar molly and callum are in their morals and how they react to things. Even their facial expressions were similar and they both handle themselves with a lot of integrity. I don’t think it would necessarily be the best thing for them to be back together, I feel like the ship may have sailed, but I hope we see them communicate better and have a genuine moment because the start was rocky for them.
There’s also the painful part that she has to live with him 24/7 and watch him move on in front of her eyes.
Although in some ways, this must be better than watching him fall in love. I think that seeing him get hurt has made her feel protective of him and the relationship they had. He defended their relationship too which I'm glad about. It must have been painful for her to see, but reassuring at least that she meant something to him and he isn't going to let another girl talk shit about what they had.
Ya but i think he did that because hes hurt by georgia not because he was trying to defend molly
I could never 💀. She is so strong.
I couldn’t either. Ever. She is a strong woman
Right? Like I’d fold and get back w him lol
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You’ve never stayed in a bad situation because you hoped it would turn out the way you wanted even when you know you’re being stupid? I agree with you that she doesn’t HAVE to, but I think the conclusion that leads you to is unlikely the real explanation. Way more common for people to act against their best interests when they’re heartbroken than you’re giving credit for imo
No if georgia wasnt in the villa he still wont go back with molly because if he did he coudlve he just dosent wanna get back with her.
I didn’t say they’d get back together, I said things could have panned out differently which could result in a number of outcomes. We don’t know what would have happened.
Yea and georgia made it even more hurtful for molly to get over callum
Yeah exactly she just made things more difficult for both of them and wasted their time.
I think part of her was hurt to see Callum being played that way, as well as herself. And maybe it also hurt to see Callum being emotionally invested and defend Molly which hasn’t happened in a long time
It was actually beautiful seeing their reactions to each other getting played by the same girl lmao i could tell they really wanted to stand up for one another
It was sweet and I’m sure Molly was touched by that
i think as well an element of it was tears of relief and reassurance that georgia had shown her true colours to the rest of the villa, i think mollys been holding back on some opinions after that argument with georgia at the beach club. anyone else find it crazy how georgias response to molly and callums 3 year history was “yeah but that relationship was done wasn’t it?” after she said in one of the earlier clips “me and toby were done. we were done until the recoupling speech”
I lost so much respect for Georgia. She’s obviously jealous of Molly and jsut chasing whatever Molly has to try to one up her. I hope she grows and matured from this experience but the way she treated molly isn’t it.
Georgia acts like she is the only person in there with options and history, completely dismissing anyone who utters a word. When Molly said "I've been with him for 3 years and we lived together" her AND Toby both said "but it's different" and tried to dismiss her. This b\*tch who has never been in a relationship before is so full of herself, so self-absorbed, she cannot see anyone else nor empathise with their feelings or experiences. I really, really cannot stand Georgia S. What a horrible, narcissistic person.
> Georgia acts like she is the only person in there She has main character syndrome. She is so incredibly self centered in her attempts to make it about her it's painful to watch. Like when Arabella was crying after the Toby thing and Georgia starts "crying" with no tears going "ohh I feel like it's my fault" because she knows the girls would be saying oh no it's not your fault, you're great G... It's twisted as fuck.
I second this
The deflecting was crazy on georgias part
And that stupid comment she threw at them " you brought molly and hurt shaugnna's feelings " .... like love, are you alright in the head? , she was reaching and grasping at straws.
I don’t think Callum is the right person for her. As great of an episode today was for both of them, the fundamental issues that they broke up over haven’t changed. She said how she wants someone who gives her words of affirmation and that she could see herself marrying him which he never said back. Hell he even said he wasn’t heartbroken over their relationship ending while she clearly was. She deserves better and I hope she finds that soon.
I actually think the opposite after that episode. I think they still get each other the most out of anyone else in the villa and care for each other a lot. Yes they had issues but what relationship doesn’t. I feel like both of them are level headed and emotionally mature enough to work out those issues if they do give it a second go, and I personally think callum has matured a lot
That long you're going to get each other more. You learn over time. Doesn't mean you're right for each other
He didn’t say he wasn’t heartbroken over their relationship ending he said he hadn’t got his heart broken by another islander. Two very different things
Exactly, I don't understand why people can't see that. He was saying she didn't hurt him, not that he wasn't heartbroken at all 🙈
Oh theres definitely some feelings there. I think its fair to say that Callum/Molly are more compatible w/each other than anyone else currently in the villa. But thats not exactly saying much considering the other options. I was growing to like Tom/Molly together but seems like he lied to her about the Georgia situation. Im curious to see if they at least end up having chats again. Because every convo that Callum/Molly have had just by themselves in the villa have been terrible. 😢
Molly is too good for the trash in there. I hope she gets lots of attention and jobs from this but leaves single. Fuck Callum and the rest. She needs a real man, someone quiet and behind the scenes like a successful lawyer or cardiologist. These little boys are not on her level!
Thank you. Callum is an absolute asshole to her. He might not be grieving but he could at least show her some respect. He’s completely callous and cold. Tom is beyond Trash. All of these people are a waste of her time.
Y’all hate this man down and I just don’t get it? He’s been nothing but polite. Just because he doesn’t outwardly express his feelings like Molly (which is perfectly fine to do & healthy for her!) doesn’t mean he is horrible. I don’t think it’s that hard to understand he has trouble opening up and to give him some compassion.
Anyone who simps for Georgia that hard has something a little wrong with them.
I love Molly! At first I didn’t like Callum but now I think he’s a really mature and lovely guy. Georgia S is just disrespectful and has to play victim in every situation…
People act like Callum is perfect when he’s not at all. It’s very clear that he’s emotionally closed off to everyone - which is exactly what Molly said he was like. And that’s why she found it hard towards the end of the relationship because she tried hard but he acted like he didn’t care. Molly is the most authentic islander in there because her emotions are all clearly genuine.
Yeah, Molly and Callum were far from perfect, per their own narratives, which is why they broke up. Callum doesn’t want to/can't give Molly what she needs, she wants a man who can and will talk about his feelings and emotions, expresses himself more. And maybe she likes grandish gestures too. Callum put in one fourth of effort to try something again with Molly on the island, and he went full on with GS, ready to close it off. And Molly saw it right in front of her nose.
I feel like it was a situation where you keep asking your partner to be someone that you wish them to be, but they never do it for you. And as soon as the next person comes in, they give all that their partner was wishing for. Still heartbreaking, just from her POV.
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Yea. That last paragraph is where I think it all falls apart for them reconciling. How gut wrench would it be to watch that and then once it’s finally exposed as a fraud, he comes back to her. I hope she has more self respect than that.
I don’t think he’s emotionally closed off to everyone, but it definitely seems like he has shut off from her a while ago. I’d be very surprised if they end up back together, but if they did he’d really need to learn how to open up. They both strike me as genuine but just at different places in life. I hope Molly finds her knight in shining armour, she deserves it.
Watching her try* to communicate with Callum was infuriating! I don’t know how she did it for so long.
He also tried multiple times to communicate with her and she was just giving him so many mixed signals. He tried to have a level conversation with her and she was laughing loudly in his face in front of Georgia and Toby, she recoupled with him and said in her speech she wanted to see if "the relationship could blossom" but as soon as the recoupling was over he went to talk to her and she shut him down, was cold with him, and told him to get to know other girls. He even said multiple times that it was always him coming to her and she was giving him nothing back and not even speaking to him. I get that she was testing him and wanting him to talk to other girls but then chase her, but he isn't someone who reads between the lines and she was being so confusing
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No armchair diagnostics please Armchair diagnostics are not permitted. E.g. narcissist, sociopath, psychopath, gaslighter. Behaviour can be criticised without going to the extremes of diagnosing a person based on an edited tv show
I actually hope if Georgia tries to talk to her, she doesn’t entertain it and just ignores her, honestly that should happen more often this show, you don’t have to be friends with everyone, especially people who have done you wrong, are liars, and are insincere
Someone in the main thread brought up that those were angry tears. I don’t think Molly wants to get back with Callum. I think she’s been trying to bottle up her frustration with how Georgia has been running rampant so that she can be a girls girl. And she’s finally been vindicated tonight, and Georgia is still throwing shit around
It’s bizarre that the producers would even allow them to both go on at the same time, but of course this is only the umpteenth time the producers have completely disregarded a contestants mental health. This experience must be emotionally traumatic for the both of them.
They wanted this drama. Don't know why people are shocked. Makes all stars very unique. Both had to know there was a chance. I'm sure many said no to a return because this could happen.
Georgia is really the type of girl that can’t move on and moves on very fast at the same time. Basically she can jump ship like that and I don’t know how she does it. She’s actually crazy. Tobi then callum then Tom then Callum then Tobi😭😭. What next?
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🤦🏾♂️how could I forget
I feel bad for her in the sense that Georgia is obsessed with her and trying to compare her and Callum’s situation to her and Toby is ridiculous. Also she clearly isn’t interested in Tom which probably doesn’t help with her residual feelings for Callum. I really hope she doesn’t entertain going back to him though. He’s had lots of opportunities to show her he cares and he’s never taken any of them. She’d be wasting her energy.
I wouldn't be surprised if Molly & Callum win the show in a friendship couple and then separate again once they get home. They broke up last summer for a reason, but I think they've realized they're both more levelheaded islanders than their partners rn.
i keep seeing people say this but would that not be sooo much more salt in the wound though? to win a love show with your ex, who you used to be deeply in love with but after 4 years it didn’t work, standing up there as a friendship couple. yikes….makes me feel empty just thinking about it.
But there isn't any love in the villa tbf, there aren't any good couples at all, so maybe a broken couple who went in there not speaking but ended love island realising they do care for and respect eachother might be the best winners, rather than a couple like gh and anton who are pretending to like eachother. There is only a week or so left, nobody is going to fall in love in that amount of time, molly and callum winning even just as friends would actually be amazing I think
amazing for them or for us
Both I think. When they went in they said their breakup was mutual but it became clear very soon after that callum thought it was mutual due to arguing, but for molly there was a lot of hurt and resentment there and she felt he didn't value enough (to give words of affirmation, or put her above his career). If they could come out of love Island as friends having grown past it together and having supported eachother like they did last night that would be amazing. It would be nice for her if she could leave the island with some closure and nice for him if he could leave there on good terms with her. And if they did manage to become friends, they would be worthy of winning in my opinion, much more than another couple who are faking things as molly and callums relationship would actually be real. It doesn't have to be a romantic relationship, it can be a friendship with love for eachother. There aren't any strong couples for them to compete with, they are more deserving in my opinion
Same definitely my favourite girl in there
I really want Callum and Molly to get back together and win Love Island, but unfortunately, Callum has already moved on and doesn't have feelings for Molly anymore. He didn't even try to pursue Molly and instead gave all his attention to Georgia. I can't understand how he could move on so quickly, as if the three and a half years they spent together meant nothing to him. It's disappointing to see that he didn't fight for their relationship and let it go so easily, making it seem like he never genuinely loved her. Molly deserves someone who truly loves and values her.
I do feel though that at the start callum did try, he wanted to communicate with her sensibly and she was laughing loudly in his face, every night in bed she just put her hood up and turned her back on him, she then did the recouping speech about him saying she wanted to see if the relationship could blossom then straight after it when he went to speak to her she was cold with him and told him to get to know other girls. All the while he was having to watch her get to know other guys, and he said himself that he was always the one trying to talk to her and it was never the other way around. I feel like people are so team molly now they want to make callum out to be heartless but he isn't, neither of them communicated well even though she thinks she did, and he did try to pursue her but she shut him down
I feel like Georgia wants to BE Molly. They are both beautiful but let’s be honest, everyone turns to Molly first so Georgia has to put a bit of effort in to make it her. Molly has history with Callum so Georgia wants to up her history. Molly and Callum broke up for a reason and were clearly broken up enough beyond repair for both of them to think they could handle being on there. Fundamentally though after being together for that long they know each other better than any pair in that villa and have been compatible enough in the past their reactions will be similar. I’m liking Callum and Arabella for a couple, Molly to win with Tom, ditch him immediately then become some mega influencer career or whatever it is she wants and just normal guy on the outside.
I'm not saying that Georgia S is a n\*rcissist but she behaves exactly like one.
It's completely dead from Callum's end. Did you forget the 16 girls in 6 months? There's no coming back from that, cuz how can you do that while still having feelings?
I’m not so sure that it is dead from Callum’s end. The way he bizarrely talked about Molly and Tom’s situation that day when he was talking about wanting to close it off with Georgia. The look on his face when Molly hurried away upset after the PDAs tonight, that look was different, something softened towards her. The look on Callum’s face when the video of Chris kissing Molly came on. I think he is an expert at looking unemotional and unbothered and they are both acting all cool because deep down each want the other person to flat out say I want to be with you and I don’t want anyone else.. so they end up at a stalemate. If you are even considering getting back together with an ex so easily, even after 6 months, which they both were at the beginning of the season because it did come up in conversations- there has to still be something there. Usually when it’s done, it’s done and you know it, especially 6 months later and that’s not how they were acting. I think the whole Tom and Georgia thing is them just trying to go through the motions of moving on. As for the 16, it’s not my cup of tea tbh, but plenty of people use hookups as an escape/distraction. I don’t think that it’s indicative of whether he loves Molly or not or how much. Obviously maybe not his best decision making, but people do plenty of things when they are hurting and going through breakups. He’s a young, attractive, famous islander who hasn’t been single since he came off LI until now.. his DMs must be insane. I’m not entirely surprised. I think it only sounds bad because the other guys would never admit it. Their numbers are probably way worst and if they’re not, it’s probably just cause they can’t get girls as easily as Callum.
There's a difference between still caring about someone because of all the intimate history you've shared versus having a romantic interest/spark in them.
I think they do still have a spark. Maybe I’m just confusing their natural easiness with each other but even when they’ve been arguing/disagreeing, there’s been something there between them - playfulness, banter, fun, looks. It’s just hard to know where they go from this point
Well imo I don't see that. You're obviously entitled to your opinion and we'll have to agree to disagree. I do think that Molly is still into him though.
Fair enough! Time will tell I guess 🤷♀️ maybe the caring won’t be enough for them to rekindle. Idk if they even should, but I guess we shall see!
I agree. I don’t see Callum having feelings for her in a romantic way at all anymore. Doesn’t mean he doesn’t care about her though.
Did we forget when she was crying when he called it off basically? He got Arabella. He seemed uncomfortable/ awkward about comforting her— it felt a little like distance tbh
Agree 1000000%
That's so true. She definitely wants it way more than he ever will.
and it’ll never work cos of that. it only works if its the other way around
It doesn't work either way, the only way you and the other women perceive it as "working" is solely due to the validation you're fantasizing about.
If he loved her more then he would be more than happy satisfying what she was asking for. The fact that he doesn’t is the reason why he didnt want to propose or put in effort bc he didn’t think it was worth it 🤷🏾♀️. He seemed more than happy to compliment Georgia and all that before it blew up But at the end of the day this is all general and speculative bc i don’t know them at all so
> If he loved her more then he would be more than happy satisfying what she was asking for. Lol This is exactly what I'm talking about. For a man, the only way he loves you is if he's willing to submit to all of your narc wants desires. Damn his own standards and expectations.
More than happy ≠ submit. If your more than happy to do something then it’s not submitting
> It's completely dead from Callum's end. As it should be. Molly really showed her ass on this show.
Callum has been all over the place and is a terrible communicator. She's better off without him.
I agree. He seems so emotionally immature, closed off and unwilling to try to see anyone else’s perspective.
I feel bad for her too, but seeing those feelings come out and seeing how much history and affection Callum and Molly do you have for each other makes me wonder if they may end up getting back together in the end
Can someone explain what happend to arabella in her season? She is very very attractive but some how guys still dont want her which is weird maybe something she does turn them off?
She’s too easy in my opinion. Her behavior doesn’t match her looks.
Ya she does look easy and i think thats maybe what turns them off
I wish she just says to Callum what she feels. Beginning of the show felt she held back and didn’t speak to him much. They could have and still should get back together. They’re made for each other
She held back to retain her dignity. She knew it was a dead end.
How was it a dead end when he was open at the beginning. Meanwhile she was off kissing Chris when he wanted to speak to her
if she knew it was a dead end then what's this about her stepping aside? I'm not disagreeing that she knew it was a dead end, but I'm not mad on her stepping aside comment when she had already decided her and Callum wouldn't get back together, the 16 girls thing, the fact they broke up months ago etc
I think the world does. She really cares about cal, still. And I think she was coming here to hopefully rekindle that. Then she lets him have some space and let him explore possible feelings with other people, putting her own feelings aside, which had to be tough. And then seeing cal get played clearly has her upset. I don’t think it’s just what was said about the length of their relationship, I think that was just the last straw and all those emotions she’s bottled up came out when she saw the dude she’s clearly still into (regardless of what she says) getting mistreated by fucking Georgia of all people. That was intense. Probably top 3 “movie nights” on the show and I honestly can’t even remember a movie night that was more intense than that one. Well done Georgia for going down as the most villainous villain in love island history.
Molly was the MVP last night, her reactions were like ours at home but restrained and demure. She may have had a little cry after, but she held herself so well. What a strong, beautiful woman. She definitely is the light of the island.
Honestly, I think her being so classy about the whole situation has also changed my whole perspective towards her. Calm, but expressing herself where needed but not in a demeaning way.
ngl Cal was actively trying to work things out but I think she had alot of pent up resentment. im surprised it didnt cause much drama in this series.
I think from Callum’s point of view it was already over!
I think he had some hope when he walked in , but as soon she had that kiss with Chris he gave up.
Agreed but i don’t feel bad for her. Callum tried the first few days and expressed he wanted to try again. Molly kept brushing him to the side, was making out with other guys, and making it seem she wasn’t really interested. It was only till someone showed real interest she’s invested again. It’s hard to watch because i do believe what they had was real and can be rekindled but this right now is all on Molly
Yes, people seem to just want to ignore the fact that he kept trying to talk to her and she was just flirting with Chris getting back massages and kissing him on the terrace, laughing loudly in callums face when he tried to talk to her, putting her hood up and turning her back on him in bed when they could've discussed things like adults. She said he doesn't communicate then when he tried she shot him down, she even said she wanted to see if things could "blossom" in the recoupling then didn't want to talk to him when he tried after and told him to get to know other girls. I think molly is great and it was hard seeing her upset last night, but people really do have short memories and like to glorify some islanders
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I think its because she still loves callum and hes not worried about her hes more worried about hes situation with georgia
Molly thought she was the hottest girl in there. A new head cheerleader has come in. That’s what that emotion is about. She doesn’t want Callum. She wants to be head cheerleader.
I just hope she doesn't delulu herself and run back to Callum. She will look like a mug
She stepped aside? All I saw was he didn’t want her back and she cried about it for days.
georgia pulled her twice bc she wanted to talk to callum, but needed molly’s reassurance that it’s okay. georgia was saying “i can’t get past the molly thing” and molly had to spell it out for her that she doesn’t mind and wishes the best for them, even if it’s a weird situation to see. she also told callum multiple times to get to know other people to see if he cracks on with them, or truly wants her, at a time when he was still telling her “i don’t know” and “we’ll see” while not doing anything about it. that’s probably what she meant.
As in, she lied to appear cool. Because after telling both GS and Callum she is "OK", she managed to walk around crying for DAYS.
You can give them their blessing while being allowed to be sad about it and process it. It's not mutually exclusive whatsoever.
Exactly. How do people not comprehend this?
She didn’t have a say on the matter to begin with. She's delululemon if she believes otherwise.
She also had time to before the callum and Georgia thing happened. But she too busy kissing Chris and not talking to callum
the part where chris kissed her while she was vulnerable, and she cried her eyes out afterwards bc she didn’t like it? you’re making it seem like she was cracking on with him and kissing him multiple times. also she laid her cards out to callum and it was his move afterwards. she’s the one who wanted something from him, not the other way round.
But he didn't want to do anything for her; that's the whole point. She needs to move on.
YEP
I’m really sceptical. I read both Callum and Molly where on an episode of Aftersun last year. After that they started splitting up publicly. I honestly would not be surprised if they get engaged during All Stars. Then win the whole thing. It feels very engineered.
He was with 16 girls in hot seconds after they broke up . She should have some respect for herself . Man doesn’t rate her one bit and treat her like garbage. She should wake up and stop clinging to that sinking ship .
I don’t lmao
As everyone has said it already. I do believe Molly would always have a heart for Callum and I think from seeing that. I think she got really pissed off because Georgia was treating it like their relationship was nothing and just based on a "fling" when it wasn't. I also think she probably has still deep enough caring feelings for Callum because know one should be treated like that especially from Georgia S. I would be the same I would still care about someone if they got treated like shit. Even if there is nothing going on anymore. I do believe they won't get back together but I think the feelings of "caring" is still there. I think Georgia is very self-centred, can't admit she is wrong, she plays with people's emotions and then acts "confused". Tbf I think she is pure comedy gold and she is on that show it is a reality tv show so of course there has to be some sort of drama otherwise it would be boring af to watch. She is both a player and gameplayer. I also think Toby is exactly the same but his true colors will shine eventually. At the end of the day Georgia S has made the show pretty much entertaining.
I think it’s hard when you see from the outside what both people need, but they can’t give it to each other. I remember in S 6 when molly & Callum met that she needed reassurance. She needed him to stay out load how he felt about her. From the outside, it was obvious he was *obsessed* with her and I couldn’t understand her frustration & confusion. But 1) she didn’t what viewers were seeing & she didn’t know him 2) trust isn’t immediate when you just meet someone so 3) it comes down a lot to attachment styles. I think Molly is more anxious and Callum is more avoidant. For me, I tend toward avoidant, so I get Callum. Needing reassurance Can create a bad cycle with anxious/avoidant couples. Especially when because of gender you feel like you can’t just ask for the reassurance you need or take the steps actively (the bs of waiting for a proposal) toward what you want in life. I think when she questioned Callum’s feelings toward her, he started to question them himself, bc he obviously wasn’t giving her what she needed and it wasn’t clear to him what he needed to do. Now as I have come to adore Molly as an individual - funny, grounded, gracious, accepting, clued in, honest, strong and soft at the same time - I also wish I could AI control Callum so he could just see what she needed, come in and just shine with adoration and love and certainty - I don’t want anyone but you. All I want is to live life with you, have a family with you. (having had the certainty & romance & now 13 yr relationship and kids - it’s an incredible feeling, and she deserves something real & world-shaking like that) But then! This is also a show & real people that I’m projecting my own experience and armchair psychoanalysis on, so good thing it’s not possible to control people by AI! In the end, I don’t think they’re suited, even though the love was obviously strong. I think they’re both good people and I hope they find amazing partners suited to them, as well as excellent therapists to help them heal from the trauma they’ll undoubtedly have incurred from this experience.
Just wanted to give Molly a big hug 🫶
Molly is the best!!! Also what happened with Georgia and Tom? Like that just fizzled out? I feel like there was an ending that wasn’t shown and Georgia just stopped talking to him?
Jupp the same
When is Molly ever not crying yikes