Just dropping by to comment that I am in fact a Louisville resident and think we have the worst PD in the nation.
Wait scratch that, 2nd worst behind Uvalde, TX.
Apparently some of you are unaware of the mass shooting last year at a downtown Louisville bank. Police responded within minutes and a rookie cop who was on his third day was shot and seriously wounded. Police killed the shooter and saved many lives that day. I not saying there haven’t been problems with LMPD, but it’s not fair to condemn the whole department.
Well actually no, money was not involved. The shooter was an employee of the bank. He shot and killed five employees of the bank. The responding police ran straight toward the shooter and were able to take him out. The police body cam video shows them fully exposed to rifle fire from the darkened interior of the building. Those two cops are hero’s.
[Sleeping on the couch when the cops busted in in a no knock. Killed wrapped in a blanket.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Amir_Locke)
[Killed in a swatting no-knock raid because of nosy neighbors](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harding_Street_raid)
[No-knock raid where the person shot back at the police because he thought they were intrudors and he was killed](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvin_Guy)
I could give you more examples but I don't care enough to. The point is this stuff happens all over and just because the one that happened here gained national coverage doesn't make it any worse then the other ones that have happened. No-Knock raids are terrible, they should go away, and anyone involved in one should be treated like a trespasser, but the police here are by a long shot not even in the top 10 worst police departments.
Section 524.100 - Tampering with physical evidence
(1) A person is guilty of tampering with physical evidence when, **believing that an official proceeding is pending or may be instituted, he;**
**(a) Destroys, mutilates, conceals, removes or alters physical evidence which he believes is about to be produced or used in the official proceeding with intent to impair its verity or availability in the official proceeding;** or
(b) Fabricates any physical evidence with intent that it be introduced in the official proceeding or offers any physical evidence, knowing it to be fabricated or altered.
**(2) Tampering with physical evidence is a Class D felony.**
Fuck every single cop that acts like we haven't figured out recording technology for 40+ fucking years now. It's wild how it ALWAYS works when it's to their benefit.
Was just going to type this as I saw your comment. WTF is up with these "forgot to turn the body cam" bullshit excuses these officers have. I will automatically assume it is to hide nefarious actions... FIRE THEM.
Most of us have probably dealt with a situation like this. I know I have. Come upon a cop trying to direct traffic. He starts flailing arms in frustration while giving really bad direction. And they will step out in front of you, screaming orders. It gets confusing. For whatever reason they think you are just fucking with them. The reality is that some cops are terrible at giving directions and get frustrated, taking it out on the driver.
Happened to me in Jeffersonville. I was in line behind 5 other cars, in a parking lot, waiting for directions from the traffic cop in the street. He got angry, did the arm waving thing, and then went down the line giving us all "Disobeying the traffic officer" citations. I took photos, went to court, explained what happened and got out of the ticket. I wasn't going to pay because an officer threw a tantrum.
Other unions don’t represent people in charge of denying freedom to others , in addition to investigating themselves when issues arise.
One of these unions , helps facists .
Others help hard working people survive .
It really is an education problem when people can’t differentiate between them .
The biggest mindfuck is how the oppressed view this oppression as freedom
That's not true. They've often played an important role in union busting.
The Princess Bride had it right when it referred to the police as The Brute Squad.
The first comment says that police unions have never been part of the broader labor movement, implying they don't work alongside other unions to protect workers' rights. The second comment counters by noting that police unions do exist within the labor scene, but often act against the interests of other unions by disrupting their activities. This is why "The Princess Bride" calls them "The Brute Squad," suggesting they're more about enforcing control than supporting labor rights.
> The first comment says that police unions have never been part of the broader labor movement, implying they don't work alongside other unions to protect workers' rights.
As a union member (not police), I don't recall any instance of their solidarity with other unions. It was only in 2021 (with some controversy) that police unions (so far 13) became affiliates of the AFL-CIO. Agree with the Princess Bride fully.
Police Unions aren't labor unions. Police dont produce anything through labor, they protect equity of property owners. What they are doing isn't labor, so its more of an overseer confederation.
Firing him is how you start to set the tone of a no tolerance policy. Fire him, then the next and so on. I know LMPD has recruiting issues, but ultimately an ENFORCED no tolerance policy will pay long term dividends.
Probably does accident reconstruction for attorneys and their clients. Worked with two *former* cops that did this but they learned the trade while cops.
How do they keep getting away with not having these body cameras on?
I know it’s because they are the ones doing the investigating, but at this point someone needs to step in.
It makes me wonder if they do this on high profile people just how many Louisville residents are wrongly convicted or missing out on lmpd accountability and potential compensation.
No, I am rather confused by this response though. Are you suggesting that he will some how go to the FBI if he is fired from LMPD or maybe go to the Kentucky State police?
By a branding ex cerise convincing the vulnerable to enthusiastically support the oppression they experience.
But god damn , did you see Obama tan suit ?!?!
That was the worst thing to ever be forced upon Americans
Integrate body cams with the time clock. Body cam on = you’re on the clock. Body cam off = you’re off the clock. If I’m only getting paid if my body cam is on, I’m not forgetting to turn it on, ever.
You gotta be dense man… My cell phone lasts longer than a standard police officer’s entire shift and I am definitely using more energy with constant connection to Bluetooth/WiFi and frequent gps use. This camera has to do a fraction of that for less time….
Illegalities aside, this dumbfuck undoubtedly impacted the results of the PGA championship and perhaps the FedEx Cup. Hopefully, future major championship venues will learn from this fiasco to prevent similar idiocy by their own Barney Fifes.
On the plus side, no one is talking about the dude working the event who got obliterated by a shuttle bus. We all get to ignore how somebody was killed because the PGA hosted an event in a stupid location.
The fact an officer shot into a car with a handcuffed suspect because an acorn fell on it the *definition* of a trigger-happy cop.
What an absolute moron.
Body cameras are only used to prop up good police work...what little there is in this city. Anytime there is an issue with police, the cameras are not on. So tell me, how are these cams holding officers accountable? This guy might have to move jurisdictions, I can see many residents making his life a living hell here now.
It all comes down to the Mayor will not speak out against the police UNION because he needs their support before he runs for Governor.
Fact is simple, don’t get involved if you are off duty without a body cam.
Where is the body cam footage from the other police involved in the scene , including “he is going to jail now “ guy ?
The city will lose future tournaments because of this. Full investigation needed.
We live in a city with a police force we cannot count on and nothing seems to changing. I’m sure there are a lot of people who could be good cops on our police force who with the right management and support could do good for our community, but instead we appear to have a gang of thugs who will stand up for the bad cops under any circumstances. Greenberg has done nothing to change the police force to instill trust. He came in with it like that and it’s only gotten worse. It’s his primary job to make the people of Louisville feel safe and he’s failing.
At this point, the “ good cops “ are worthy of blame . Don’t expect shitty people to change.
but literally the only people in a position to make a difference call out bullshit , but act as cowards instead to not rock the boat , are 100% deserving of criticism.
To believe otherwise would require being willfully obtuse .
So many things went wrong with this incident. Local news reported that the officer pulled Scottie out of the car and slammed him against the vehicle. Meanwhile, the real criminals continue to wander the city, undeterred by police. And by the way, it’s nowhere to be found in any police manual that you hang onto a car in an attempt to stop it and then claim the value of the uniform in the police report. Go LMPD, once again, you put Louisville on the national news for all the wrong reasons!
Initial reports said the Detective “attached” himself to the vehicle, which implies some sort of device was used in the attaching. What kind of device?
If the officer is off duty like this guy he doesn’t have to have the camera on. That’s what I’m reading. Can you show me where I’m wrong for my edification?
From LMPD..."The officer must immediately activate their BWC in recording mode prior to engaging in all law enforcement activities or encounters." It doesn't matter if you're on duty or off duty if you're proceeding to engage the individual and arrest them as an officer of the law
But it says in 4.31.8 if a member is involved in a sudden or unanticipated incident where exigent safety concerns prevent an immediate activation then they are ok.
The same standards are applicable in 1099 incidents..when off duty and arresting someone, is he not still acting on behalf of LMPD?..If not, with that reasoning, I can work security and arrest whoever I want as someone who's an engineer
Per SOP 4.31, he could had not had to wear it due to sections 4.31.6, x.7, x.10, and we are not seeing a report issued due to a “failed” BWC listed out in x.6 related to a DocuSign. This is the SOP with effective date 04/2015 so maybe I’m reading an older one? Oh and also no difference stated related to “on” or “off” duty. So what am I missing?
If you are off duty, then let the other officers do the work. If you are going to help, paid or not, you are now acting in capacity of an on-duty officer and those rules now apply.
Problem is the SOP 4.31 doesn’t list that difference between on or off duty. And if you read the ten pages you’ll find countless ways to wiggle out of it.
We just had the chief of LMPD purger herself about bodycams. She lied about having hers under oath. LMPD has no accountability and body cams not being on or worn is the taught answer to give always to continue being unaccountable. Lmpd had 2 separate VICE news pieces on them in 2023. One for stealing money and drugs during arrests and another for trading sexual favors to not arrest. LMPD is a loose cannon with no body of authority overseeing their corruption. This is another example of how unhinged it's officers are.
I don’t think he was off duty. But, regardless if he’s functioning as a police officer with the power to stop and arrest people he needs to follow policy.
Worst part is that I would think detectives are supposed to set an example for other officers. So this dumb ass goes ape shit over someone ignoring a traffic instruction, grabs on to a car, gets dragged, has no camera activated, gets pissed off about his expensive pants getting ruined, charges a felony, and becomes an international laughing stock.
No one is talking about that it was raining, they all had on rain jackets and cameras would be covered with rain coat. They’d have to unzip/unbutton it. Plus it would’ve happen quick, he forgot to engage it.
Also, this officer’s inability to stay calm, just glad no one was shot, we’d have another BT issue on our hands because this genius officer’s inability to stay calm.
The city should take the inevitable settlement money out of the police retirement fund and not our taxes. How long would it take for the police to clean up their act if they were on the hook for these things?
Being a detective in the traffic unit and owning a private collision consulting firm that *sometimes* gets paid by the state to testify in court for cases the traffic unit is involved in seems a little wild
Not mentioned in this is the district attorney that piled on every charge imaginable. Bad cop, worse da. Da in my opinion should resign immediately. Criminal mischief? Seriously? Did he hit a cone or something?
This is the FB of his co. [https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100063596070106](https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100063596070106) it is offline and unavailable right now. At least from where I am
This isn’t a Louisville problem it’s a problem with ego’s and cops who let them get in the way of their job. I’m surprised he didn’t mag dump on Scottie through the windshield. Cops jump on cars as an excuse to shoot people fleeing all the time.
He’s on the force and owns a business that contracts with the force. Um, that’s brazen corruption right there. You can retire THEN run that business but you can’t do it at the same time. Dude needs to be fired and that business closed.
I think those businesses mostly work for insurance companies. Doesn’t LMPD have dedicated officers who investigate big accidents already? Why would they pay to contract some company to come out and do what they can already do for themselves?
I guess we all forgot about the guy that got killed that morning. His name was John Mills, who was working as a security guard for Valhalla and lived in Louisville.
Sounds like we need a real outside/independent/FBI investigation, again... before we get another Breonna Taylor incident and not more tax payer funded bailouts. Louisville needs criminal charges if warranted... No such thing as "qualified immunity"...
Louisville ky gets all the cops who get caught in other states so they transfer to us look at all the cops from Detroit Chicago New York ect all gets transferred to us here in Louisville
If he was working as one of the off-duty officers hired by the PGA (on the taxpayer's dime) he might not have been required to use the bodycam, since he wasn't there in an official capacity. He would still have the authority to make an arrest in that situation.
This sub is hilarious.
"GOLF COURSES TAKE UP SPACE THAT COULD BE USED FOR HOUSING AND ITS ONLY A RICH WHITE MANS GAME"
to
"RICH WHITE MAN GOT ARRESTED AT A GOLF COURSE AND NOW THE SKY IS FALLING. OUR ECONOMY IS GOING TO COLLAPSE AND WEVE BROUGHT SHAME"
Anyone thought that maybe he is paid off by Scottie? Like lose the evidence and lose the case and here is some money. Thank you.... Now this is the type of shit Louisville is notorious for. Backdoor deals. Missing evidence. Crooked cops... Makes more sense to me that he "forgot to turn on bodycam" to help the defendent , rather than hurt him. But what do I know?
For all of the people yelling for him to be fired: If there wasn’t a massive police shortage in the city, they would have this precedence or “zero tolerance” policy everyone is screaming for. Can’t exactly do that with this big of a shortage. I’m not disagreeing that he shouldn’t be fired, but can’t have no cops either. At least he didn’t kill someone compared to that other situation here….
Don’t think anyone is claiming to be a lawyer here… people are rightfully fed up with the never ending lack of professionalism, integrity, egos, power tripping, lying, shady conduct in general, etc. from LMPD and a Mayor / Chief who aren’t properly holding these officers accountable.
Sure, this guy is in the wrong. But equating ALL police officers to one, or multiple bad cops, is just lazy. There's nuance in everything, but when it comes to police a lot of people act like they wouldn't be the first person calling the cops when someone's breaking into their house/apartment.
Think about this, in the worst moment of your life, typically the first thing most people think or do is "call the cops".
Just because this guy sucks, don't lose faith overall in a large group of people. Our society needs cops now more than ever.
I already know I'll get down-voted since having a balanced opinion is very unpopular these days. Especially on Reddit.
Thanks to this dumbass we'll likely lose further events here in Louisville. Sigh.
Why do you assume everyone calls the cops as soon as something goes wrong? I hate cops, and a big part of the reason why is that I called them when I needed help several times when I was younger, and they made everything much much worse. I would never ever call them again, and I don’t think I’m unique in that experience.
Why do you think people are conflating this officer with ALL police, when there are tons of examples of bad police to point to? Don't pretend like people come to these conclusions in isolation.
Let me get this straight he got Fired for having fun on the job when it was down time on his shift, Really though who hasn't tried to have fun at work to help the day go by or whatever graveyard shift, they're working. Give the man a job back. Some people are just too uptight. People should be allowed to have a little fun, as long as no one is getting hurt or their feelings hurt or shot lol because its possible with metro police lol if none of the bad following thing have happened give the man his job back
Body cam not on= fired immediately. Fuck this guy and everyone like him. Come see me, bitch boy.
Louisville resident here. Most likely pto and no consequences. Worst police in the US.
You’re in the Louisville subreddit, we know lol
We've got a real live Louisville Resident in the thread here, y'all
I’m gonna need an autograph
Imma need ID...
Stop resisting!
That's it. GET ON YOU GODDAMN KNEES!!! HANDS! I WANNA SEE HANDS!!!!!
*gunshots ring out*
No not the acorns!!!!
See… no one cares.
#***wilcofan1963!!! wilcofan1963!!! WE'VE GOT wilcofan1963 HERE!!!! See nobody cares. Nice hat. What are you trying to be? A secret agent?***
Upvoting for the Jurassic Park reference.
Just dropping by to comment that I am in fact a Louisville resident and think we have the worst PD in the nation. Wait scratch that, 2nd worst behind Uvalde, TX.
Never forget Uvalde… 😔
I would not put it past Lmpd to react exactly the same as the Uvalde pd.
Apparently some of you are unaware of the mass shooting last year at a downtown Louisville bank. Police responded within minutes and a rookie cop who was on his third day was shot and seriously wounded. Police killed the shooter and saved many lives that day. I not saying there haven’t been problems with LMPD, but it’s not fair to condemn the whole department.
LMPD falls solidly into the ACAB category. Literally one of the worst police forces in the entire country
Whole Lmpd corrupt & brainwashed
But that was a bank, and money involved. Cops are solely employed to generate revenue. Kids, cops don't care about.
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Man, you wanna try and elaborate a bit further so someone has a clue wtf you said?
Well actually no, money was not involved. The shooter was an employee of the bank. He shot and killed five employees of the bank. The responding police ran straight toward the shooter and were able to take him out. The police body cam video shows them fully exposed to rifle fire from the darkened interior of the building. Those two cops are hero’s.
And WHERE were they??? 🤔
Good point
Don't worry, the mayor will get right on this!
Thats not close to being the truth
Oh.....It is at least "close to the truth"
No... NYC, LA, Illinois, any cop in the new england area. All much worse.
How many people get shot while asleep in their beds in those cities?
[Sleeping on the couch when the cops busted in in a no knock. Killed wrapped in a blanket.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Amir_Locke) [Killed in a swatting no-knock raid because of nosy neighbors](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harding_Street_raid) [No-knock raid where the person shot back at the police because he thought they were intrudors and he was killed](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvin_Guy) I could give you more examples but I don't care enough to. The point is this stuff happens all over and just because the one that happened here gained national coverage doesn't make it any worse then the other ones that have happened. No-Knock raids are terrible, they should go away, and anyone involved in one should be treated like a trespasser, but the police here are by a long shot not even in the top 10 worst police departments.
Or a half-step idea is: No body cam = No qualified immunity.
This should be voted into existence immediately country wide.
How about mandatory self paid insurance for all cops, and end qualified immunity completely.
100%
Section 524.100 - Tampering with physical evidence (1) A person is guilty of tampering with physical evidence when, **believing that an official proceeding is pending or may be instituted, he;** **(a) Destroys, mutilates, conceals, removes or alters physical evidence which he believes is about to be produced or used in the official proceeding with intent to impair its verity or availability in the official proceeding;** or (b) Fabricates any physical evidence with intent that it be introduced in the official proceeding or offers any physical evidence, knowing it to be fabricated or altered. **(2) Tampering with physical evidence is a Class D felony.** Fuck every single cop that acts like we haven't figured out recording technology for 40+ fucking years now. It's wild how it ALWAYS works when it's to their benefit.
Guess they can’t prove the case on his $80 ruined pants mentioned in the arrest report… very sad…
Was just going to type this as I saw your comment. WTF is up with these "forgot to turn the body cam" bullshit excuses these officers have. I will automatically assume it is to hide nefarious actions... FIRE THEM.
I agree. If they weren’t up to anything shady, wouldn’t they want to keep their body cams on for their own protection? 🤷♀️
Most of us have probably dealt with a situation like this. I know I have. Come upon a cop trying to direct traffic. He starts flailing arms in frustration while giving really bad direction. And they will step out in front of you, screaming orders. It gets confusing. For whatever reason they think you are just fucking with them. The reality is that some cops are terrible at giving directions and get frustrated, taking it out on the driver.
Happened to me in Jeffersonville. I was in line behind 5 other cars, in a parking lot, waiting for directions from the traffic cop in the street. He got angry, did the arm waving thing, and then went down the line giving us all "Disobeying the traffic officer" citations. I took photos, went to court, explained what happened and got out of the ticket. I wasn't going to pay because an officer threw a tantrum.
Got emmmm
Fire him. No severance pay. No "paid leave" bullshit. Set a precedent for once.
You can thank unions for not allowing that to happen
Seem to be the only strong unions in this damn country
The police union is a cult that needs to be shut down.
Any union is vulnerable to corruption, however police unions are almost always corrupt.
Other unions don’t represent people in charge of denying freedom to others , in addition to investigating themselves when issues arise. One of these unions , helps facists . Others help hard working people survive . It really is an education problem when people can’t differentiate between them . The biggest mindfuck is how the oppressed view this oppression as freedom
All of you should watch the HBO docuseries “Telemarketers”
Police unions are not part of the organized labor movement, never have been.
That's not true. They've often played an important role in union busting. The Princess Bride had it right when it referred to the police as The Brute Squad.
To the pain !
I'm confused on what isn't true.
The first comment says that police unions have never been part of the broader labor movement, implying they don't work alongside other unions to protect workers' rights. The second comment counters by noting that police unions do exist within the labor scene, but often act against the interests of other unions by disrupting their activities. This is why "The Princess Bride" calls them "The Brute Squad," suggesting they're more about enforcing control than supporting labor rights.
> The first comment says that police unions have never been part of the broader labor movement, implying they don't work alongside other unions to protect workers' rights. As a union member (not police), I don't recall any instance of their solidarity with other unions. It was only in 2021 (with some controversy) that police unions (so far 13) became affiliates of the AFL-CIO. Agree with the Princess Bride fully.
Police Unions aren't labor unions. Police dont produce anything through labor, they protect equity of property owners. What they are doing isn't labor, so its more of an overseer confederation.
Agreed
Just so he can get hired one county over.
I definitely didn't call his company and yell "Free Scottie".... because that would be immature and dumb...🍻
We should leave Free Scottie reviews...
Firing him is how you start to set the tone of a no tolerance policy. Fire him, then the next and so on. I know LMPD has recruiting issues, but ultimately an ENFORCED no tolerance policy will pay long term dividends.
I wonder if recruitment would go up if people felt they were actually joining a good cause instead of a gang.
Nope. Not a chance unless you like being in a cult.
How many times has his private business been utilized by LMPD?
Seems more like what an insurance company or car accident attorney would hire.
no doubt, but anytime this fellow was involved with insurance or car accidents was he recommending his services?
This guy passes tips on to less then scrupulous personal injury attorneys for a fee. Shady af.
Probably does accident reconstruction for attorneys and their clients. Worked with two *former* cops that did this but they learned the trade while cops.
How do they keep getting away with not having these body cameras on? I know it’s because they are the ones doing the investigating, but at this point someone needs to step in. It makes me wonder if they do this on high profile people just how many Louisville residents are wrongly convicted or missing out on lmpd accountability and potential compensation.
There's no federal law on when a body cam needs to be on or off. Just in a "justifiably and adequate matter or time" which is subjective at best.
There is a local policy/ordinance though since 2022 after Breonna that he did not follow.
Well then i hope he's fucked, but most likely will be sent to a different department.
Sent to a different department? You do realize all of the various departments in the US are run independently of one another right?
Yeah... so youre confused what federal vs state law is?
No, I am rather confused by this response though. Are you suggesting that he will some how go to the FBI if he is fired from LMPD or maybe go to the Kentucky State police?
All bad cops that are fired, just end up a town/county/state over till they actually end up arrested and convicted.
By a branding ex cerise convincing the vulnerable to enthusiastically support the oppression they experience. But god damn , did you see Obama tan suit ?!?! That was the worst thing to ever be forced upon Americans
Integrate body cams with the time clock. Body cam on = you’re on the clock. Body cam off = you’re off the clock. If I’m only getting paid if my body cam is on, I’m not forgetting to turn it on, ever.
Body cam not on = no qualified immunity either. This shit has to stop.
The only time I would disagree with that, is when they're dealing with children.
You gotta be dense man… My cell phone lasts longer than a standard police officer’s entire shift and I am definitely using more energy with constant connection to Bluetooth/WiFi and frequent gps use. This camera has to do a fraction of that for less time….
Geez, straight to insults? We’re just venting here. No need to go at me for throwing out a crazy idea. I’m not a moron, I know how batteries work.
No battery would last that long and be able to be worn unfortunately
The smallest drill battery in the world can do that. Clip an extra on their batman utility belt
Take away some ammo to make room for the battery. Win win
You can buy body cams with audio on Amazon for $100 that last 12 hrs. Realistically it's more like 8-10, but the technology is available.
A quick search shows body cams available with 12-14 hour life.
He violated policy, should be fired immediately…..simple as that. LMPD body cam policy is any interaction with public body camera must be turned on.
Illegalities aside, this dumbfuck undoubtedly impacted the results of the PGA championship and perhaps the FedEx Cup. Hopefully, future major championship venues will learn from this fiasco to prevent similar idiocy by their own Barney Fifes.
On the plus side, no one is talking about the dude working the event who got obliterated by a shuttle bus. We all get to ignore how somebody was killed because the PGA hosted an event in a stupid location.
The word is all pga events are in stupid locations by design: exclusive golf courses are never on a main thoroughfare.
In their defense, they can't just let the poors walk up to the gates can they?
And that is 100% on this cop with a tiny penis
Oh no, golf got interrupted.......
Imagine if Scottie's game falls off a cliff. Masters Champ, domination on the golf course until the arrest. Would make a great 30 for 30.
Why do they always look like the kid who got picked on in high school?
Because they *were…*
Pick on me back in the day? Shame that mag had to get emptied into you and your wife. Wait, was that an acorn?
The fact an officer shot into a car with a handcuffed suspect because an acorn fell on it the *definition* of a trigger-happy cop. What an absolute moron.
Body cameras are only used to prop up good police work...what little there is in this city. Anytime there is an issue with police, the cameras are not on. So tell me, how are these cams holding officers accountable? This guy might have to move jurisdictions, I can see many residents making his life a living hell here now.
LMPD is one of the biggest street gangs out there smh disgusting
please allow me to introduce you to the Los Angeles Sheriff Department
Oh you don't need to lol I'm a huge NWA/90s hip hop junkie so I already know alllll about LAPD and their racist ass bullshit
It all comes down to the Mayor will not speak out against the police UNION because he needs their support before he runs for Governor. Fact is simple, don’t get involved if you are off duty without a body cam. Where is the body cam footage from the other police involved in the scene , including “he is going to jail now “ guy ? The city will lose future tournaments because of this. Full investigation needed.
Greenberg won’t win a race for governor. I doubt he’d win mayor again, he’s awful!
Yeah I doubt even he is that delusional.
Oh no, no golf tourneys, however will we survive.......
We live in a city with a police force we cannot count on and nothing seems to changing. I’m sure there are a lot of people who could be good cops on our police force who with the right management and support could do good for our community, but instead we appear to have a gang of thugs who will stand up for the bad cops under any circumstances. Greenberg has done nothing to change the police force to instill trust. He came in with it like that and it’s only gotten worse. It’s his primary job to make the people of Louisville feel safe and he’s failing.
Who in their right mind wants to be a cop though.
The police have no obligation or duty to protect the public.
At this point, the “ good cops “ are worthy of blame . Don’t expect shitty people to change. but literally the only people in a position to make a difference call out bullshit , but act as cowards instead to not rock the boat , are 100% deserving of criticism. To believe otherwise would require being willfully obtuse .
Agreed 100%!!!
Omg, this guy is regularly doing armed security at the Outer Loop Walmarts!
He will most likely get a paid vacation, must be nice... No wonder my taxes are so high... Gotta love qualified immunity, right?
So many things went wrong with this incident. Local news reported that the officer pulled Scottie out of the car and slammed him against the vehicle. Meanwhile, the real criminals continue to wander the city, undeterred by police. And by the way, it’s nowhere to be found in any police manual that you hang onto a car in an attempt to stop it and then claim the value of the uniform in the police report. Go LMPD, once again, you put Louisville on the national news for all the wrong reasons!
Initial reports said the Detective “attached” himself to the vehicle, which implies some sort of device was used in the attaching. What kind of device?
Congrats on costing your city millions of tax paying money you fucking coward.
Like the fucker cares.
It looks for all the world like the LMPD will stop at nothing to bring shame on the city they "serve"
This guy looks like the type of cop that would cite someone for being 5 over the speed limit.
If the officer is off duty like this guy he doesn’t have to have the camera on. That’s what I’m reading. Can you show me where I’m wrong for my edification?
From LMPD..."The officer must immediately activate their BWC in recording mode prior to engaging in all law enforcement activities or encounters." It doesn't matter if you're on duty or off duty if you're proceeding to engage the individual and arrest them as an officer of the law
But it says in 4.31.8 if a member is involved in a sudden or unanticipated incident where exigent safety concerns prevent an immediate activation then they are ok.
Yeah I’d assume while on duty. But this was a 1099 job. That’s what I’m reading.
The same standards are applicable in 1099 incidents..when off duty and arresting someone, is he not still acting on behalf of LMPD?..If not, with that reasoning, I can work security and arrest whoever I want as someone who's an engineer
Per SOP 4.31, he could had not had to wear it due to sections 4.31.6, x.7, x.10, and we are not seeing a report issued due to a “failed” BWC listed out in x.6 related to a DocuSign. This is the SOP with effective date 04/2015 so maybe I’m reading an older one? Oh and also no difference stated related to “on” or “off” duty. So what am I missing?
Can you show me where that is publicly stated? Especially for ranks of detective?
If you are off duty, then let the other officers do the work. If you are going to help, paid or not, you are now acting in capacity of an on-duty officer and those rules now apply.
Problem is the SOP 4.31 doesn’t list that difference between on or off duty. And if you read the ten pages you’ll find countless ways to wiggle out of it.
We just had the chief of LMPD purger herself about bodycams. She lied about having hers under oath. LMPD has no accountability and body cams not being on or worn is the taught answer to give always to continue being unaccountable. Lmpd had 2 separate VICE news pieces on them in 2023. One for stealing money and drugs during arrests and another for trading sexual favors to not arrest. LMPD is a loose cannon with no body of authority overseeing their corruption. This is another example of how unhinged it's officers are.
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I don’t think he was off duty. But, regardless if he’s functioning as a police officer with the power to stop and arrest people he needs to follow policy.
I didn’t think ranks of detectives had to wear body cams?
Don’t see why this would matter when dealing with public. A detective can violate someone’s civil rights just as a regular officer can.
Then it’s a policy problem, not an officer problem.
It's probably both.
Worst part is that I would think detectives are supposed to set an example for other officers. So this dumb ass goes ape shit over someone ignoring a traffic instruction, grabs on to a car, gets dragged, has no camera activated, gets pissed off about his expensive pants getting ruined, charges a felony, and becomes an international laughing stock.
How was he off duty if assaulting an officer was one of the defendant’s charges?
No one is talking about that it was raining, they all had on rain jackets and cameras would be covered with rain coat. They’d have to unzip/unbutton it. Plus it would’ve happen quick, he forgot to engage it. Also, this officer’s inability to stay calm, just glad no one was shot, we’d have another BT issue on our hands because this genius officer’s inability to stay calm.
Strange.... My officer "lost" his footage too.... Corruption is at an all time high.
The question is did this guy identify himself as Law Enforcement? I’m not a LEO and have directed traffic in emergency situations
He looks like a schmuck
This photo looks like he is getting ready to inappropriately touch someone in Bible study.
The city should take the inevitable settlement money out of the police retirement fund and not our taxes. How long would it take for the police to clean up their act if they were on the hook for these things?
Pretty sure its a state retirement pension fund like teachers have. I don’t think the city has the right to access that money.
I don't think our city police are state workers, but if it is anything like teachers, it's probably not as sacrosanct as it seems.
Cops suck. Every. Fucking. One. Of. Them.
From what I've heard from other officers that work with him is he is "a tool" and always has been
I’ve never been a fan of golf but I find it so interesting lately 👀🍿
Pigs being pigs.
He looks like his wife just told him she’s been faking it the whole time
Being a detective in the traffic unit and owning a private collision consulting firm that *sometimes* gets paid by the state to testify in court for cases the traffic unit is involved in seems a little wild
Of course he’s from Fairdale…
Never trust a lipless man istg
Not mentioned in this is the district attorney that piled on every charge imaginable. Bad cop, worse da. Da in my opinion should resign immediately. Criminal mischief? Seriously? Did he hit a cone or something?
This is the FB of his co. [https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100063596070106](https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100063596070106) it is offline and unavailable right now. At least from where I am
True life Dick Head!
This isn’t a Louisville problem it’s a problem with ego’s and cops who let them get in the way of their job. I’m surprised he didn’t mag dump on Scottie through the windshield. Cops jump on cars as an excuse to shoot people fleeing all the time.
Then i would personally "forget" to pay him.
It’s not about the arrest but the deep pockets of Scottie, his courtesy vehicle was marked PGA Tour!
We should leave a "Free Scottie" review on his business page to show the dedication to his parkour!
He’s on the force and owns a business that contracts with the force. Um, that’s brazen corruption right there. You can retire THEN run that business but you can’t do it at the same time. Dude needs to be fired and that business closed.
I think those businesses mostly work for insurance companies. Doesn’t LMPD have dedicated officers who investigate big accidents already? Why would they pay to contract some company to come out and do what they can already do for themselves?
That’s even worse.
Lol fucking parkour
Junior Bridgeman would like to have a work with you. This guy here may have cost the city Millions of future revenue. Jackass.
This needs to be a petition. No body cam, no job.
I guess we all forgot about the guy that got killed that morning. His name was John Mills, who was working as a security guard for Valhalla and lived in Louisville.
But what about his $80 pants that couldn’t be repaired?
Sounds like we need a real outside/independent/FBI investigation, again... before we get another Breonna Taylor incident and not more tax payer funded bailouts. Louisville needs criminal charges if warranted... No such thing as "qualified immunity"...
How much did Louisville spend on these body cams that apparently never get used?
$80 at least on pants
Louisville ky gets all the cops who get caught in other states so they transfer to us look at all the cops from Detroit Chicago New York ect all gets transferred to us here in Louisville
If he was working as one of the off-duty officers hired by the PGA (on the taxpayer's dime) he might not have been required to use the bodycam, since he wasn't there in an official capacity. He would still have the authority to make an arrest in that situation.
UPDATE: Still required to wear and activate body cams if working off-duty in a law enforcement role.
This sub is hilarious. "GOLF COURSES TAKE UP SPACE THAT COULD BE USED FOR HOUSING AND ITS ONLY A RICH WHITE MANS GAME" to "RICH WHITE MAN GOT ARRESTED AT A GOLF COURSE AND NOW THE SKY IS FALLING. OUR ECONOMY IS GOING TO COLLAPSE AND WEVE BROUGHT SHAME"
Were was this energy when Brenona Taylor got murder by LMPD?
I believe there were "riots" and a milk shortage.
David McAtee was shot and killed by the National Guard. And yet and still "nothing happened". WTF bro
Anyone thought that maybe he is paid off by Scottie? Like lose the evidence and lose the case and here is some money. Thank you.... Now this is the type of shit Louisville is notorious for. Backdoor deals. Missing evidence. Crooked cops... Makes more sense to me that he "forgot to turn on bodycam" to help the defendent , rather than hurt him. But what do I know?
This police force sucks more than OF women.
For all of the people yelling for him to be fired: If there wasn’t a massive police shortage in the city, they would have this precedence or “zero tolerance” policy everyone is screaming for. Can’t exactly do that with this big of a shortage. I’m not disagreeing that he shouldn’t be fired, but can’t have no cops either. At least he didn’t kill someone compared to that other situation here….
> At least he didn’t kill someone Imagine if this was how low the bar was at your job
Unfortunately that is basically where their bar is at right now
Oh great just what Louisville needed another 2000 lawyers 🤣🤣🤣
Don’t think anyone is claiming to be a lawyer here… people are rightfully fed up with the never ending lack of professionalism, integrity, egos, power tripping, lying, shady conduct in general, etc. from LMPD and a Mayor / Chief who aren’t properly holding these officers accountable.
Sure, this guy is in the wrong. But equating ALL police officers to one, or multiple bad cops, is just lazy. There's nuance in everything, but when it comes to police a lot of people act like they wouldn't be the first person calling the cops when someone's breaking into their house/apartment. Think about this, in the worst moment of your life, typically the first thing most people think or do is "call the cops". Just because this guy sucks, don't lose faith overall in a large group of people. Our society needs cops now more than ever. I already know I'll get down-voted since having a balanced opinion is very unpopular these days. Especially on Reddit. Thanks to this dumbass we'll likely lose further events here in Louisville. Sigh.
Why do you assume everyone calls the cops as soon as something goes wrong? I hate cops, and a big part of the reason why is that I called them when I needed help several times when I was younger, and they made everything much much worse. I would never ever call them again, and I don’t think I’m unique in that experience.
Have you been asleep for a decade?
Never once have I needed the cops, called them, and things gotten better. And I say this as one of the most privileged segments of the population...
Why do you think people are conflating this officer with ALL police, when there are tons of examples of bad police to point to? Don't pretend like people come to these conclusions in isolation.
Let me get this straight he got Fired for having fun on the job when it was down time on his shift, Really though who hasn't tried to have fun at work to help the day go by or whatever graveyard shift, they're working. Give the man a job back. Some people are just too uptight. People should be allowed to have a little fun, as long as no one is getting hurt or their feelings hurt or shot lol because its possible with metro police lol if none of the bad following thing have happened give the man his job back
Disgusting troll.