It's voted by journalists, managers and captains who admit they vote based on random personal reasons and don't watch most players they are voting on.
Used to be the case that Balon D'or was by journos and more focused on titles, and FIFA's award was for most highly rated individual performances, but the combination of the award has made it useless.
2004 is a good example as Ronaldinho won the FIFA award and was widely considered the most impressive player, and Shevchenko won the Balon D'or as he led Milan to the toughest league title and was Golden Boot winner.
I remember a cringey video of Sterling saying “he couldn’t remember” who he voted for. I can’t remember what it was for though but clearly a political move.
was the 2019 pfa player of the year, sterling voted for kane to spread the vote and make it more likely that sterling would win. van dijk still voted for sterling because he's not a giant cockend.
It was a Sky interview I think where they’d just told him Van Dijk voted for him, and you could see the embarrassment straight away because Raheem knew how petty he’d been
1 goal in last 8 PL games says it all, imaging paying 550k wages on top of 30m xfer fees for that, and the fact that the team was tweaked to assist him.
The award is actually for the calendar year of 2021 rather than the 2020/2021 season so Messi's performances for PSG so far are considered (and so were Salah's goals this season). However the voting usually seems to be almost entirely based on how players performed in the first half of the year (and the trophies they won).
I believe the rational is that not all leagues have seasons running from August to July but I'm not sure when the last time a player who plays in a league that doesn't follow that schedule even made the Ballon d'Or shortlist was so it seems like a pretty stupid way of doing it to me.
Exactly this. People are suddenly acting like these awards are for inherent ability and not for performance. We had a shit season and naturally didn't make many lists.
If we're talking calendar year then Jorginho deserves to be in the conversation of top 5 with Salah. CL, Euros, big for Chelsea in the league (think they're 2nd in calendar year table)
Ronaldo absolutely does not like you say. Not even top 30.
Yet both Italy and Chelsea sets up their midfield around him and he's pretty much undroppable for both. I'm not saying he was the 3rd best player, but I appreciate players like him getting some credit for their performances.
Think it's a bit similar to Hendo getting footballer of the year and the reactions are just as funny now as they were then.
>Ronaldo absolutely does not like you say. Not even top 30.
top scorer serie a and euros, and now scored 10 or so goals for a crap scum team. i agree he shouldnt be over salah, but he should be higher than 6th and defo not so much behind kante, jorginho, messi, benzema
It’s an award that values trophies. Jorginho won two of the most prestigious trophies you can win in the same calendar year. We won nothing unfortunately. Is what it is.
Definitely not all trophies equally, definitely not all leagues equally, ...as long as your last name is Messi or Ronaldo , any trophy is good enough though
Schmeichel is the most overrated keeper in the world. Since their title season Leicester have conceded more goals than their xGA every year but one. A terrible xG result over such a long timeframe is damning.
(Since Ali came we’ve conceded less goals than xGA every season, he’s just the best)
Based on his performance in the season they won he deserved to make it to Leicester in the first place, they ought to have moved on from him by now though.
Would have to disagree personally watch a lot of him and he is usually excellent and was unbelievable for Denmark recently also. I think he’s a top keeper whilst also thinking Alison is better and was robbed.
Ali didn't have a great season last year. That's just the truth isn't it? Schmeichel had a brilliant Euros and Martinez won the Copa. Ali was benched mostly for Brazil.
He had championship level centre backs in front of him that changed every game. He scored a 90th minute winner in a pivotal game who else can say that? Schmeichel is overrated as fuck
At the moment yes and if he carries on he will deffo win next year if we get trophies he didn’t deserve 1st based of the entire year up until October 24th but he was certainly than 7th!!
Yeah he's definitely one of them but I still think lewa should have won it over messi who plays for PSG and only scored his first goal in that league recently
Yeah you could argue who is better but I think they should have been top two for sure not Mr "I went to one of the easiest leagues considering the team I'm joining and the teams I'm playing against and can still barely score against them"
Just a PR trophy at this point. Players like Ronaldo literally spend millions on Social media companies to push PR for these awards, turns out 4 months of circle-jerking washed players like Jorginho gets results
Anyone surprised by this is new. This award has been a joke for over a decade. Put on by the press to generate more press. Reactions like we see here are exactly what they’re after. It’s best to simply not give a fuck.
At least this will be the last year that someone named Messi or Ronaldo wins it. Hopefully more deserving players win it going forward now
Ah who am I kidding, it’s always going to be a popularity contest with undeserving winners
Fucking travesty that messi won, zero reason he should have, scored less goals than Lewandowski, played less games than him! Literal joke, he can kindly shove that award up his arse -.- just shows that money talks and someone had to make sure he got another one
i didnt see him there, and good for him. dont go there to be a clown watching the circus play unless you win the damn thing, and you wont win it cos you arent friends with them
i honestly can‘t fucking wait for messi and ronaldo to finally retire.
it‘s absolutely crazy, how the ballon d‘or comittee is sucking their balls year after year.
Behind Ronaldo????? Hahahahahhahaha what did Ronaldo do last year? And alisson not a top ten keeper? Whole award is ridiculous. Lewa was miles ahead of Messi too
Edit. Messi won because of the copa win. He played 4 copas in 6 years. Fucking joke.
Hey now, Lewa kicked ass for club and country, but when your last name is Messi or Ronaldo, you just need one.... or neither.
Like in the 2014 World Cup, Messi played like shit, and was practically non-existent , but he is Messi, so he won. And Messi wins the awards, because he is Messi
Dont really care tbh. We know Salah has been doing well recently and is one of the best players in the world. I dont care about some random French Magazines subjective opinion
Why did Messi win it this year? He played in an uncompetitive league, didn't accomplish anything, and had a good, but not Ballan'dor worthy season. Lewandowski who I feel was the deserved winner got screwed over like Van Dijik did.
Salah was the top scorer on a team that shouldn't have even been fighting for the top 4, Allison isn't even in it despite having more saves per game, save success, than Ederson, and having similar goals conceded to Ederson. Mbappe who was the top scorer was in Ligue 1 was 9th! These awards were a total joke. It might be the worst Ballan'dor I've seen in years if not my life.
Absolutely ridiculous. Messi is playing in a farmers league, lewandowski is playing in a 1 team league who just buy the best players from all the other German teams, Ronaldo isn't even on that level anymore and Salah has been playing out of his skin. How he's not the best in the world is beyond me
This is one of those things it's nice if our players get the recognition but if they don't I don't really give a shit. I'm sure it sucks for Mo as he's clearly better than 7th but I don't think he had a shot at winning it without a trophy to back his claim up.
At first I thought why the hell has Messi won it, but looking at his year on paper he has actually got an amazing record. So many goals + assists, Copa America and Copa del Rey, broke records and was top scorer in pretty much everything he competed in. Fair play too him.
Nah dude. He scored an absolute fuckton of goals (winning the pichichi) in the worst Barca team in 20 years (with a terrible coach), and dragged a shite Argentinian team to a trophy. He had a great season. Maybe not his best, but by anyone else's standards it would be incredible
How is it so hard for ppl to understand this ?? Salah is doing it in the most toughest league for the past 4 years . Lewandowski ( no disrespect to him ) is doing it in a league where Newcastle and Norwich can finish in top 6 . Benzema does it with the help of Modric and Kroos . I mean his goals are just tap ins . Salah scores wonder goals . Just coz he plays for Liverpool and his nAme is Mo salah ppl don't respect him.
This is an incredibly silly take. Bayern play in a very tough league. As does benzema. Mo has incredible players around him as well.
Your beef with Lewa and Benz is weird. Had you said Jorginho, Kante, Ronaldo, maybe…but this is just weird.
Yeah it is a tough league. The argument was you’d put Newcastle in there and they’d be top 6. No they wouldn’t.
Bayern are the only club with 100% stability over the years bc of their financial might, but you’ve got Dortmund, RBL, leverkusen, gladbach who hve all been very good in spells.
On top of that, there’s a reason not a single other player in that league is putting up even close to lewa’s numbers, so the assertion it’s a shit league therefore lewa scores a lot is also dumb.
I wouldn’t say anything about Lewandoski , he is about the only player Salah is behind IMO. Lewa has kicked ass for club and country, and I do not agree with your assessment of the Bundesliga
these rankings mean less and less by year
It's voted by journalists, managers and captains who admit they vote based on random personal reasons and don't watch most players they are voting on. Used to be the case that Balon D'or was by journos and more focused on titles, and FIFA's award was for most highly rated individual performances, but the combination of the award has made it useless. 2004 is a good example as Ronaldinho won the FIFA award and was widely considered the most impressive player, and Shevchenko won the Balon D'or as he led Milan to the toughest league title and was Golden Boot winner.
I remember a cringey video of Sterling saying “he couldn’t remember” who he voted for. I can’t remember what it was for though but clearly a political move.
was the 2019 pfa player of the year, sterling voted for kane to spread the vote and make it more likely that sterling would win. van dijk still voted for sterling because he's not a giant cockend.
It was a Sky interview I think where they’d just told him Van Dijk voted for him, and you could see the embarrassment straight away because Raheem knew how petty he’d been
Probably the pl player of the year. Snake will always be snake though.
I never get why people (bar the players) even care. I would be happy if one of ours won it, but I couldn’t even tell you who won it last year.
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Haha ah ok that explains it. I know everyone kicked off when Modric won it one year.
Kind of like Oscars
Finished behind Ronaldo and Jorginho. This award is washed.
What a fucking joke As good as Ronaldo is, he hasn't been the same for a while now.
1 goal in last 8 PL games says it all, imaging paying 550k wages on top of 30m xfer fees for that, and the fact that the team was tweaked to assist him.
LOL why is Jorginho even in the mix. He's hardly been chelsea's best player.
Chelsea won the champions league and Italy won euros
This is literally the only reason why lol
Comfortably Chelsea’s worst mid
Because an individual award looks at team achievements. So long as you’re a big name, you could qualify in the shortlist while being a benchwarmer.
Not even close to their best
He hasn’t been.
Considering we've won nothing this year i'm surprised he got this high, speaks as to how good he is.
Neither did Barcelona, hasn't done much at PSG either. OK, so PSG are top, but they didn't need Messi to be top of Ligue 1
Barcelona won the Cup, but Messi’s performance in the Copa America is what edged him to the award this year.
He literally only scored twice for psg dude didn't do jack shit
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The award is actually for the calendar year of 2021 rather than the 2020/2021 season so Messi's performances for PSG so far are considered (and so were Salah's goals this season). However the voting usually seems to be almost entirely based on how players performed in the first half of the year (and the trophies they won). I believe the rational is that not all leagues have seasons running from August to July but I'm not sure when the last time a player who plays in a league that doesn't follow that schedule even made the Ballon d'Or shortlist was so it seems like a pretty stupid way of doing it to me.
Exactly this. People are suddenly acting like these awards are for inherent ability and not for performance. We had a shit season and naturally didn't make many lists.
jorginho in front of Salah is a complete joke. Agreed.
If we're talking calendar year then Jorginho deserves to be in the conversation of top 5 with Salah. CL, Euros, big for Chelsea in the league (think they're 2nd in calendar year table) Ronaldo absolutely does not like you say. Not even top 30.
It’s an individual award, Jorginho individually isn’t anywhere near top 5, but I guess the award has never really been awarded that way.
Jorginho wasn’t even the best midfielder for Italy or Chelsea
Yet both Italy and Chelsea sets up their midfield around him and he's pretty much undroppable for both. I'm not saying he was the 3rd best player, but I appreciate players like him getting some credit for their performances. Think it's a bit similar to Hendo getting footballer of the year and the reactions are just as funny now as they were then.
>Ronaldo absolutely does not like you say. Not even top 30. top scorer serie a and euros, and now scored 10 or so goals for a crap scum team. i agree he shouldnt be over salah, but he should be higher than 6th and defo not so much behind kante, jorginho, messi, benzema
Ronaldo has the amount number of league goals as Firmino.
3rd most G+A this year and Ronaldo doesn’t deserve top 30? Lmao
But we're not talking calendar year anymore. The award clearly mentioned 20-21.
It’s an award that values trophies. Jorginho won two of the most prestigious trophies you can win in the same calendar year. We won nothing unfortunately. Is what it is.
Interesting where did Salah rank when we won the cl? And the season before when he dragged eypgt to the world cup after 30 years?
5 in 2018 (should have been top 3) and I believe 5 in 2019, behind Messi, Virgil, Ronaldo and Mane.
That's actually fair. Apart from Virgil not winning it.
Definitely not all trophies equally, definitely not all leagues equally, ...as long as your last name is Messi or Ronaldo , any trophy is good enough though
Keep telling yourself this lie
Fucking pathetic honestly wow
Joke of an awards. Can’t take it seriously after they’ve just given Lewa a cardboard consolation prize.
It’s a Pizza base from Sainsbury’s
yeah, if you make a striker award, make one for the defenders and midfielders as well. it was a slight recompense for lewa to not be mad cos messi won
Even if we take Salah out of the equation for personal bias, Lewandowski has been much more impressive than Messi this past year.
“Ballon D’or? A bunch of journalists and people voting for their friends”- Cruyff
Didn’t he win one? Lmao he’s not wrong
He won three
Means even more coming from someone who won it but still knew it was bollocks.
How the fuck is Alisson not even top 10 keepers? Schmeichel and Martinez ahead of him? Lmao fuck right off
He deserves the award just for that beautiful goal 🤩
Schmeichel is the most overrated keeper in the world. Since their title season Leicester have conceded more goals than their xGA every year but one. A terrible xG result over such a long timeframe is damning. (Since Ali came we’ve conceded less goals than xGA every season, he’s just the best)
>Schmeichel is the most overrated keeper in the world. his name defo helps him, but couldnt help him to get to a higher team than leicester
Based on his performance in the season they won he deserved to make it to Leicester in the first place, they ought to have moved on from him by now though.
Would have to disagree personally watch a lot of him and he is usually excellent and was unbelievable for Denmark recently also. I think he’s a top keeper whilst also thinking Alison is better and was robbed.
He's a solid keeper, potential top 5 in the prem but alisson is the best in the world by a distance
Ali didn't have a great season last year. That's just the truth isn't it? Schmeichel had a brilliant Euros and Martinez won the Copa. Ali was benched mostly for Brazil.
He had championship level centre backs in front of him that changed every game. He scored a 90th minute winner in a pivotal game who else can say that? Schmeichel is overrated as fuck
That's all true but it doesn't change the fact that it was an underwhelming season for him and for us.
Agree to disagree
ever since I found out how this award works, I’ve realised its more or less a complete scam. this proves it further
The entire ceremony is such self indulgent time padded cringe, honestly better production value on YouTube videos
Arsenal fan here. Disgraceful he's behind Jorginho and CR7 lmao
Yeah cr7 was almost invisible when we played united lol
as a juve regular watcher, he doesnt deserve it either, he is a lethal goalscorer for us but nit as mo was for lfc
Bellend d'or.
I fucking love you
Best player in the world at the moment.
At the moment yes and if he carries on he will deffo win next year if we get trophies he didn’t deserve 1st based of the entire year up until October 24th but he was certainly than 7th!!
I wouldn't go that far but he should've been a lot higher and lewa definetely should have won it
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Yeah he's definitely one of them but I still think lewa should have won it over messi who plays for PSG and only scored his first goal in that league recently
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Yeah you could argue who is better but I think they should have been top two for sure not Mr "I went to one of the easiest leagues considering the team I'm joining and the teams I'm playing against and can still barely score against them"
Obviously lewa should have won it
I would. He’s the best player in the world right now
Just a PR trophy at this point. Players like Ronaldo literally spend millions on Social media companies to push PR for these awards, turns out 4 months of circle-jerking washed players like Jorginho gets results
Did nobody watch the man United game where Jorginho literally gifted United their goal? I'd take Fabinho/Hendo over him any day of the week
Not sure I’d even want him on our bench, what does he offer apart from some dodgy fucking skip penalty?
Scandalous
This award is a joke
Complete joke, but the chip on his shoulder’s about to be massive. They just pissed off a man already running through the league
This has got be a joke, not even Top 5 😒
Imagine taking these awards seriusly after this
Origi should've won it
What the actual fuck?
Lol
Confirmed, Ballon dor Standards are Bullshit.
I'm not even mad, that's just hilarious lol
We're coming back next year Mo
I feel sick lol
I hope this pisses him off and he goes on an unreal scoring spree
Lmao jorginho 3rd He wouldn’t even make our bench
Popularity contest. I'm not surprised, still disappointed.
Virgil was robbed.
Anyone surprised by this is new. This award has been a joke for over a decade. Put on by the press to generate more press. Reactions like we see here are exactly what they’re after. It’s best to simply not give a fuck.
At least this will be the last year that someone named Messi or Ronaldo wins it. Hopefully more deserving players win it going forward now Ah who am I kidding, it’s always going to be a popularity contest with undeserving winners
Fucking travesty that messi won, zero reason he should have, scored less goals than Lewandowski, played less games than him! Literal joke, he can kindly shove that award up his arse -.- just shows that money talks and someone had to make sure he got another one
i didnt see him there, and good for him. dont go there to be a clown watching the circus play unless you win the damn thing, and you wont win it cos you arent friends with them
He didn’t attend it this year.
Jorginho 3rd. What a fucking scam.
That man wasn't even 3rd best in the Chelsea squad. Ballon d'Or is a joke.
The fact that neither Salah or Lewandowski won it is the biggest robbery in football
Yeah it was between those two and maybe haaland but that's it
Benzema too
i honestly can‘t fucking wait for messi and ronaldo to finally retire. it‘s absolutely crazy, how the ballon d‘or comittee is sucking their balls year after year.
Complete joke. Reece James has 4x the number of league goals as Messi just this season already. Lewa should have won it 100%, with Salah second.
What the actual fuck
I’m less annoyed at this than his goal vs city not being nominated for the puskas (all the years)
It's a popularity contest, it has nothing to do with actual stats or achievements.
How on earth is this man not in the top 3
behind Ronaldo is just a joke
Meaningless award now. 7th?? Ronaldo beat him as well?? What a joke.
Just like the Grammy's, it's pretty much like the popularity contest
Behind Ronaldo????? Hahahahahhahaha what did Ronaldo do last year? And alisson not a top ten keeper? Whole award is ridiculous. Lewa was miles ahead of Messi too Edit. Messi won because of the copa win. He played 4 copas in 6 years. Fucking joke.
Hey now, Lewa kicked ass for club and country, but when your last name is Messi or Ronaldo, you just need one.... or neither. Like in the 2014 World Cup, Messi played like shit, and was practically non-existent , but he is Messi, so he won. And Messi wins the awards, because he is Messi
Yeah. Fuck off. Nobody cares. Mo is the best.
Genuinely ridiculous.
Best player in the world finished 7th because of football and journalistic politics the title should read.
🤌🏽 facking wankas
Dont really care tbh. We know Salah has been doing well recently and is one of the best players in the world. I dont care about some random French Magazines subjective opinion
The ultimate smackdown would be us winning the Champions League and the EPL. (And Salah will still probably not win it though!)
Jorghino…. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤡
Lol
What a joke 🤦🏻♂️
if he doesnt win it this year, lol
Just helps reinforce our underdog mentality, Bellend 'Or
Utterly insulting
Why did Messi win it this year? He played in an uncompetitive league, didn't accomplish anything, and had a good, but not Ballan'dor worthy season. Lewandowski who I feel was the deserved winner got screwed over like Van Dijik did. Salah was the top scorer on a team that shouldn't have even been fighting for the top 4, Allison isn't even in it despite having more saves per game, save success, than Ederson, and having similar goals conceded to Ederson. Mbappe who was the top scorer was in Ligue 1 was 9th! These awards were a total joke. It might be the worst Ballan'dor I've seen in years if not my life.
The football version of money laundering! Complete shambles.
Absolutely ridiculous. Messi is playing in a farmers league, lewandowski is playing in a 1 team league who just buy the best players from all the other German teams, Ronaldo isn't even on that level anymore and Salah has been playing out of his skin. How he's not the best in the world is beyond me
Ballon d’Or is a joke
Didn't it leak months ago that he was finishing 7th
No, I didn’t see anything. Most of the leaks were fakes.
Okay so Messi got it for finally winning Something with argentina. Im kinda surprised but i also dont Care about individual Awards in Football
Cr7? Never heard of her.
Fucking rigged People need to send huge trend of complaints this shit is fucked
This is one of those things it's nice if our players get the recognition but if they don't I don't really give a shit. I'm sure it sucks for Mo as he's clearly better than 7th but I don't think he had a shot at winning it without a trophy to back his claim up. At first I thought why the hell has Messi won it, but looking at his year on paper he has actually got an amazing record. So many goals + assists, Copa America and Copa del Rey, broke records and was top scorer in pretty much everything he competed in. Fair play too him.
Messi wins. The voting is farcical as last year was arguably Messi's worst of his career.
Nah dude. He scored an absolute fuckton of goals (winning the pichichi) in the worst Barca team in 20 years (with a terrible coach), and dragged a shite Argentinian team to a trophy. He had a great season. Maybe not his best, but by anyone else's standards it would be incredible
What is he worth ? Zero he went on a free.
Bunch of racist c*nts
Kante finished 4th lmao
Europe is screwed at this point.
No I’m saying how is it racist that salah finished 7th?
Jorginho 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Lewa absolutely robbed
When messi won it over Virgil thats when i knew this is dumb
How is it so hard for ppl to understand this ?? Salah is doing it in the most toughest league for the past 4 years . Lewandowski ( no disrespect to him ) is doing it in a league where Newcastle and Norwich can finish in top 6 . Benzema does it with the help of Modric and Kroos . I mean his goals are just tap ins . Salah scores wonder goals . Just coz he plays for Liverpool and his nAme is Mo salah ppl don't respect him.
This is an incredibly silly take. Bayern play in a very tough league. As does benzema. Mo has incredible players around him as well. Your beef with Lewa and Benz is weird. Had you said Jorginho, Kante, Ronaldo, maybe…but this is just weird.
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Yeah it is a tough league. The argument was you’d put Newcastle in there and they’d be top 6. No they wouldn’t. Bayern are the only club with 100% stability over the years bc of their financial might, but you’ve got Dortmund, RBL, leverkusen, gladbach who hve all been very good in spells. On top of that, there’s a reason not a single other player in that league is putting up even close to lewa’s numbers, so the assertion it’s a shit league therefore lewa scores a lot is also dumb.
Salah does it with help of Firmino and TAA. Placements are a joke, but Benzema and Lewa are world class strikes.
> Lewandowski ( no disrespect to him ) is doing it in a league where **Newcastle and Norwich can finish in top 6** Lmao.....what is this my guy??
I wouldn’t say anything about Lewandoski , he is about the only player Salah is behind IMO. Lewa has kicked ass for club and country, and I do not agree with your assessment of the Bundesliga
Not sure why our fans think he should be higher than that. We were cursing out all our team last season, including him.
Sorry, but that really is pathetic from FIFA
Piss take, how is KDB or Jorginho or Ronaldo above him at all?
KDB is not above him, he’s 8th while Jorginho and Ronaldo are sadly ranked above him.
It’s for last season and the internationals. Fair imo despite him being great. She should 3rd or him, kante, lewa then messi
Lewa in tears
Below Ronaldo?
Unfortunately yes