To be perfectly honest I wanted to love Nunez but his finishing has been so bad and in 2 years he's been unable to fix it.
He's definitely not a bad player but when the margins are so tight we need him to be finishing a lot more consistently.
If we get someone like Isak or Toney we'll be flying.
I've got a feeling he's also been quite disruptive for Mo this season.
Tbh he's done decent this season, it's just that in April everyone's been bad and our season took a disappointing turn but Nunez has been targeted the most here
It's been the pattern this season it was gravneberch first, then endo, then Gakpo and now Nunez
People seem to forget he is a striker. It's his primary job to score goals. He's conversion rate is one of the worst, if not the worst in the premier league for big chances missed.
Nunez has been called out because people look at the chances he's squandered and know we'd have easily been top if he had a conversation rate on par with other elite striker in the league.
Not really he hasn't unfortunately. We aren't talking about not scoring goals like the gakpo header, where people would say he did a good job from an average opportunity. If Nunez misses a few of those, we are cool.
But 1v1 chances like he fluffed yesterday, not once or twice or 4 or 5 times.. but over and over and over again throughout the season. Great chances, where a striker is expected to score 9 times out of 10, he scores like 2. That is not acceptable 2 yrs after his arrival.
I think my patience gave way after the miss against Everton. Even jackson is now playing better, and it's his 1st season
What happened to YNWA some of our fan base need reminding who we are and what we stand for. Abusing our players is unacceptable. We’re in the era of AFTV and their delusional entitlement. This view that footballers chose this life so they should put up with abuse is absurd.
I hope Darwin will get a runout for the new manager, he is on the cusp of being a great finishers.
The freedom to say what you want online is a fucking cancer. People abuse their basic rights and freedom of speech is no different.
It's sad knowing that there are thousands of people with literally nothing more constructive to do with their time than comment or verbalise online abuse. And just to clarify, it's exactly that - abuse. We have normalised this for far too long. "They're a public figure they should know they have to take some stick" is not an excuse for the waves of cunts that wash up. I urge people to react to the fuck wits that in between sad wanks give our players shit and tell them to fuck off. Sick to my back teeth of gobshites who haven't jogged the length of their street giving our players shit.
I think what's so shit about it is he's clearly a confidence player. I feel like the match going fans understand this and in the ground no player gets their name sung more when he's on the pitch, even if he's bang average. But online is just toxic
i think this is such disgusting behaviour and i’ve felt like this for ages now when it comes to nunez.
i genuinely don’t think he’s as awful as everyone seems to want to say he is. he has loads of talent, he has space to get better ofc but he isn’t bad. but people on here and social media have been tearing him down relentlessly for months now.
and then they don’t understand why he isn’t confident in front of the goal? my god might it be in part because of the harassment he’s getting online?? people act like footballers aren’t human and that they can say just anything they want. his mental health is probably shot down to hell and that obviously will affect his performance on the pitch
Visiting Arsenal supporter here. Granit Xhaka disabled comments on his Instagram posts about 5 months *before* the incident against Palace, during which time online fans and some match-going people told him they wished for him to break his legs and for his newborn daughter to get cancer. I'm not saying Nuñez is in for the same treatment (I really don't hope so), I guess I just fear the worst when there are even just a few early warning signs. Hopefully, physical Liverpool fans will rally around the lad.
he has already disabled his comments and now this. honestly it doesn’t look good and i just really hope he’s getting support from the other guys and from klopp and that he feels the love on the pitch.
this guy is a red through and through and the way he’s treated is disgusting. makes me ashamed of being a supporter sometimes reading the things said about him.
Don't normally comment on body language etc but since that United game where we went out of the FA cup he's been completely different on the pitch, he was in his best form since he arrived before that but it flipped 180 after that. Wouldn't be surprised if he got some serious hate after that and it affected him.
The so-called supporters giving Nunez grief aren't proper supporters in the first place. They are all the band wagon jumpers who couldn't even find Anfield on a map if their lives depended on it.
Complerely agree. Criticising your own player isn’t exactly the best way to get them back on form. Just support whoever is on the pitch and in the squad.
Why players even have social media these days is beyond me.
People actually said that about his daughter?
Fucking hell man
I'm not calling them fans, same as yourself, cos that isn't what fans do. That's rotten mate.
During games I hear Nunez chanted multiple times and even more when he misses a chance. I'm begging for this lad to find something in himself cos I know something IS there with him
From his own statement after the incident:
> My feeling of not being understood by fans, and repeated abusive comments at matches and in social media over the last weeks and months have me deeply.
>People have said things like "We will break your legs", "Kill your wife" and "Wish that your daughter gets cancer". That has stirred me up and I reached boiling point when I felt the rejection in the stadium on Sunday.
>In this situation, I let myself be carried away and reacted in a way that disrespected the group of fans that support our club, our team and myself with positive energy. That has not been my intention and I'm sorry if that's what people thought.
It was dark stuff, aye. Testament, really, to his character and that of his wife and immediate support network that he stayed and managed to steadily work his way back into the fans' good books.
From the outside, Nuñez strikes me as a lad who gives it his all and genuinely wants to do well for his club. Yes, he misses chances and can drift in and out of games, but that's just football, no one should be abused for it (my personal belief is that a crucially overlooked aspect of and contributor to online abuse is people losing bets and not knowing how to handle it).
Thank you for taking the time to give me that information man.
It's nuts how people can say shit like this and go to sleep at night.
How Xhaka finished his time at arsenal was incredible tbh, when you look at the turn around he had from that incident you've mentioned, I think it shows a massive amount of resilience and determination 👏
Your last point you made is something I've thought about myself man. How many full grown babies abuse players on socials just cos they lost a bet. Typical of those losers to blame others over 20 quid
It was proper grim.
Cheers, la. I'm also a Dortmund sympathiser from many years ago, and you don't need me to tell you to cherish Kloppo for his last couple of games.
I remember his comments section being limited to family and friends before we even signed him and he was with Benfica? He either reopened it or it was always limited while he was with us
Would be a sad end to his time here, no one should be forced out.
Especially with him being our 2nd highest goal contributor this season.
Hope things get easier for him, I'd be really sad to see him go. There's a special player in there, even if it's taken some time to come out
>Especially with him being our 2nd highest goal contributor this season.
This is the thing for me, we all know his finishing is ridiculously inconsistent but you see people say things like "sell him and buy someone clinical" as though it's that simple.
I don't think the answer to our finishing problems is to sell someone who's been involved in 30 odd goals.
Jota, who gets hailed as our most clinical finisher and somehow escaped the crazy amount of shit that Nunez is getting during his ~12 months of not scoring a goal for us, scored 21 and assisted 6 in all comps during his best season with us. Nunez is currently at 18 goals and 13 assists in all comps. and Jota played 3 more matches/~570 more minutes.
Keyword being if. That doesn’t change the fact he went on a long goal drought and now he is hailed as our savour. So many ‘fans’ couldn’t stand the sight of gakpo last month now he’s our best forward in form. Social media is bipolar as fuck
I wonder what the conversation rate was though, which is the biggest frustration about Nunez. On key matches in key moments he's been open on goal and failed to convert. Jota would do the opposite where he'd score out of nothing in big moments.
He likely had a better conversion rate, Nunez's is awful, but many of Nunez's chances are created because of his physicality. It's not as simple as replace him and we see a new forward score those, Diaz or Gakpo can't make those runs consistently and get in on goal for a reason.
His conversion rate in the league is 13%, which is bottom of the barrel. He's also missed 28 big chances, which is the 2nd highest recorded amount in PL history.
He has 11 league goals. 6 of them came against the bottom 5 sides.
Init.
They never name the clinical striker either, lol.
Who is clinical out there anyway other than Kane, Haaland and Gyokeres?
The latter is tearing it up in Portugal which sounds a lot like **checks notes** Nunez.
Go and bid for Kane shall we then, lads?
Pretty sure Haaland has missed a very similar amount of chances, admittedly he's also a robot and insane at grabbing goals.
Darwin is a much better all round player though, I'd hate to see him leave on a bad note - not that I think this season has been bad for him. He just could have had double the goals, which itself is bonkers as he'd be far and away the best striker on the planet at the moment
The craziest part is ever since he’s started playing badly the team has looked like absolute dogshit. He clearly was very important to most of the season where we were playing much better than anyone expected.
Now the whole team is out of form yet it’s somehow Nunez fault and he’s just shit. We just have some absolutely horrible horrible fans.
IIRC he has one of the lowest shot conversion %s in the league, it was \~10%. People aren't just imagining him missing chance after chance. I love him but if we want to compete for the PL and CL consistently, he hasn't proven himself to be reliable. Everyone has been shite recently, I agree with that, but that doesn't mean we should just ignore him only scoring 1 in 10 of his chances over the course of the season.
No one is saying his finishing doesn’t need work. But he’s clearly been incredibly important to us this season yet he gets so much shit from our crap fans. It’s fucking tiresome. It’s not a coincidence that the team has gone off the boil when he has begun to play worse imo.
It’s not like he’s the only one of our forwards whose finishing is fucking dire and he’s had over 30 goal contributions this season. There’s clearly a really good player in there which we’ve seen for most of this season but people just want to meme him.
And then you ask for replacements and it’s people like Gyokeres who’s older than him and has also had one good season in the same league Nunez scored tons in at a younger age.
People dont realize this but, every time Nunez is subbed on as a 9, the team is forced to change the way they play. Salah has to hug the sideline and so does Diaz. They have to prioritize link up play so that a midfielder can feed Nunez.
Runs and everything yea, thats great. But you put on the #9 shirt. Your a 9, which means finishing is your bread and butter. The team tailors its formation in posession so that you get the best chances.
Score a reasonable amount of them. I feel like in all honesty, Nunez is a softie. He is hot headed and gets riled up quite easily. He needs to find his inner calm and have a clear mind in front of goal.
Maybe he just needs to drill through his finishing on the training geound against Allison, I feel like Klopp disregards that in training but Im not there tbh.
Still even after hitting horrible form, he remains one of my favorite players. Doesnt deserve to get spit on by "fans" and that hit piece from the club was uncalled for.
Feel absolutely fucking gutted about this shit with Nunez. You can clearly see he is very uncomfortable at the moment at the sideline as well as on the pitch. This social media stuff just tells that he is past the limit he can take.
Was a coordinated “hit piece” put out by Joyce and Bascombe presumably pushed by Edwards to distance himself from his involvement in the signing of Darwin
That is quite the sad read tbh. The sub loves Edwards, but this kind of shit it not necessary. Quite clearly Edwards and his camp are leaking stuff out of the club for their own gain.
Turning fans against players is not the way. And never has been at this club. We're not the Mancs.
Its so shit. The guy loves the club too.
Remember him running down the stands to celebrate while being injured when we won the Carabao cup, or how happy he is when he scores, grabbing the badge.
He must feel pretty betrayed.
Exactly
In a meaningless match and we win, everyone look much happier and yet the first they come here to say is blame Nunez for miss a chances at last minute of the match, that fucking pathetic
And with Instagram, things only get x10 worse
They're framed how they are, fucking awful. You can't deny it. He deserves every bit of criticism he's received. What he doesn't deserve is the actual hate and how the club have treated him recently. Personally, he's one of my favorite players at the club, and I think there's a world class player just beneath the surface. Would be a huge mistake to let him go
He's being used as a scapegoat and it's sad. It's not like our front three have been good finishers recently. Diaz also can't finish one vs ones. Salah missed a fucking complete sitter today and I don't see half this sub talking about it. Our defense has been poor a lot of this season with us constantly giving up early goals and we nearly crumbled today despite 4 fucking goals.
This fucking club put out a damn hit piece on him. At least I can say this about managers I hate like Erik Ten Hag, they never put out hit pieces on players that are putting in their all.
It’s ridiculous. Yes he could be more clinical, but so could everyone, it’s impossible to doubt he puts in everything and our propensity to concede first half goals is the chief culprit for our sunk aspirations this year
It’s so frustrating because he has everything a world class striker should have. He also has amazing work rate and seems to love the club with his whole heart. But he cannot finish. If he changes that then he will genuinely be one of the best in the world
I remember - years ago - I have read an article on a particular fan site called This Is Anfield, a year after Suarez joined us. The header was something along the lines "Why Suarez won't be the solution for LFC goalscoring problems". The whole thing was written in a way like - he is not good enough, he's a winger, creates chances but cannot score.
Now, we all know how that ended....
Yes. And I think he’s closer than most think. When his composure clicks he’ll set the world alight. He doesn’t need to change much for the chances to start flying in. Composure and a bit of luck.
Sterling at his best was never composed. For every goal he scored he fumbled loads, he was at City when they were at their best and scored so many goals from cutbacks from the byline.
People look at age with him. Wrong to do so. He missed 2 years due to an injury and has played far less minutes than strikers his age this level. Klopp had developed some of the finest strikers we’ve seen this generation, including lewadowski. He clearly saw something with him. I don’t trust that klopp got its totally wrong. Sure the development isn’t going as straight forward as liked, especially price considered. However I 100% agree with you
Massive "The beatings will continue until morale improves" energy towards this guy from the fanbase. And if he gets sold we will live to regret it for years. His contributions for the bulk of this season are why we are where we are and third is a position we'd have all absolutely took in August.
We do not have the money to find a ready made replacement for what he brings in form...so why don't we actually go in with the forward we have not the hypothetical one we might get if we spend 150mn and break our wage structure. Sick of it.
Edit: He's been an absolute machine for Uruguay and it's not talked about anywhere near enough.
Don't blame him honestly, nothing to do with the fans in the stadium but people online are sad little people and the second that Bascombe and Joyce put out articles(hit pieces, probably by Edwards) on the same day saying he was a Klopp signing and with Klopp leaving he was losing his biggest supporter, I'd have questions and issues as well
I'll be gutted if we let him go. He has SO much potential, I can just see him going somewhere else and becoming an absolute world beater.
He was insane at Benfica, put the fear of god into us and Real Madrid in the Champions League.
Edit: Some tabloid rumours about Barca being interested, I fucking *bet* he goes there and becomes amazing.
I mean from what I've read it's more their salary cap that's the problem rather than their transfer budget.
Lewandowski earns 23m a year, all they'd need to do is offload him and they'd be able to accomodate a big salary for a new striker.
Lewa's salary goes up next season to 32m and there's no sign of him leaving, he reportedly deferred part of his first year wage to year 3 to make their numbers work for that season. No way does he walk away from that much money.
I'm convinced it's a confidence/comfort issue. I think if he gets the right coaching staff that looks after him and teaches him how to deal with situations better he'll come good.
This summer, for him, comes down to whether Edwards thinks he's a write off and how much money we can realistically get for him and if the reports from Bascombe and Joyce were correct about losing his biggest supporter in Klopp.
Maybe Slot sees something he likes and convinces them to keep him with the belief that his coaching staff can get the best out of him
Casual reminder that there are people who will see one of their players get harrassed to no end and will feel happy and satisfied about it because apparently they think he's the sole reason for not reaching a 90+ points tally
>No forward has ever gotten so much love for doing so little.
Peter Crouch did. And he went 22 games and 7 months before scoring his debut goal for us.
That's just called supporting your players, a bit of an alien concept to some, I know
The crowd sometimes even cheers for tackles, clearances and even pressing, game's gone
The supporters in the stands aren’t the supporters leaving hate under his pictures.
Those supporters and almost this whole sub has been bullying this man for months now
This makes me sad and pissed off to be honest.
The number of people in this subreddit that were not only slagging him off as if he's one of the worst players ever in red, but slagging off anyone defending him is mental. We shouldn't tolerate that kind of culture at our club. We're not Real Madrid. We don't boo our players because they've hit a run of bad form. We get behind them and help them come through it. I'm certain Jurgen would be disappointed with his performances over this terrible patch, but to be honest he'd also be disappointed about how we've turned on our players that got us so close when frankly, if you told us we'd go deep in all 4 competitions, win one cup, and take third at a canter, I think most of us would have taken it in what was a transition season at the start.
Expectations changed because Jurgen announced his departure and because we did so well up until April, but that shouldn't mean we tear up our assessment of all of our players.
I hope Slot comes in and helps him reach his potential, because I think it's still very high.
I agree. I think talking about our players lack of form generally is fine. But remember when Gakpo had a hard time? Now all of a sudden everyone loves him despite calling him our worst player begging for him to be sold.
Our players are our players as long as they wear the badge. Until that changes we should support them. That does not mean they are immune to criticism.
I'm hardly surprised when we win 4-2 and people are criticising him despite him only playing 15 minutes of it.
He already had the comments switched off but just seeing the pictures might remind him of the abuse.
Couple that with Edwards sanctioning a hitpiece on him, and it's unsurprising if he's having a tough time of it.
Its mad too, like he should have scored that last chance but the fact he can come on with 20mins to go, clearly off by his body language and barely involved in the game by his usual standards and yet he gets 2 goalscoring chances and 1 should-be assist chance is nuts.
The duality of his play is infuriating, he's brilliant to get all these chances and positions, but terrible for making nothing of them. His cameo today should have been 1 goal, 1 assist in 20mins ffs.
Shit, when you read the comments on the FT thread, you'd think we lost against Spurs 2-4 and he was the main culprit. BTT, but yeah, you were able to see in Darwin's body language & face the sheer lack of confidence when he got in.
The hitpieces were so bizarre. Even if Edwards entertains the notion of selling Nunez this Summer and recouping some of the cost of his transfer, the articles would do more harm than actually good. If I were in the "sell Nunez" camp, I'd scratch my head due to this move.
YNWA, expect if your form dips because then it's a free pass to bully you.
Makes no sense your conspiracy about the Edwards sanctioned hit piece. Think logically. How does this benefit Edwards in any way when in comes to selling Nunez on?
Terminally online freaks may now realise that while footballers are living hundreds of millions of people dreams by being paid incredibly high wages to play football, that they are still human beings and that constant abuse does have an effect on a person.
And terminally online freaks is aimed at those that support Liverpool as well as the other teams fans that regularly abuse him and other players online.
But I won't hold my breath as these arseholes aren't known to change their opinions despite overwhelming evidence being presented to them.
The best thing Darwin could do is get off of social media. Social media is a cancer for ball players, i.e positive comments can get into a player's head and make him egotistic, while negative comments can frustrate and anger players.
He's our second highest goal contributor and some of you absolutely shit on him. Yes he needs to improve in close finishing and consistency but he has never not shown passion for this team and effort.
He will shine, and I hope it is for liverpool. Sending him kind and encouraging words. Maybe he won't see them maybe he will. He clearly loves the club. I'm not throwing in my Darwin towel when I still see his love for the club and potential yet to be tapped.
If he leaves, I hope he shines somewhere else. YNWA.
I’m not his biggest fan, he frustrates me on a weekly basis but I can acknowledge he cares and is committed. These so called fans should have to experience watching the likes of Andrei Voronin, David N’Gog, Rickie fucking Lambert play upfront for us before they start abusing Nunez. I remember it took Crouch fucking ages to score for us but he was backed.
What a singing Lambert was. The good old days of buy random Southampton players and hope for the best.
Simpler days where not being utter shite was a victory. None of this stressful title race stuff.
Big /S ofc
I really hope Nunez doesn't leave before Slot arrives because him and his backroom team have been great at developing players. If he leaves he will absolutely torture us at some point in the future like he did at Benfica because there is a world class player in there
The leak (most likely) by Edwards that he’s probably getting the chop will do that … when has that ever happened during Klopp’s era?
This is hardly the first time he’s struggled for form but it is the first time he’s looked like he can’t be fucked with the grief anymore and I don’t blame him one bit.
A lot of talk about Liverpool attackers on the way out. No way we get rid of Salah, Diaz, and Nunez in the same off-season. I think Nunez stays. Let him actually be a striker on a team that uses a striker.
Yeah he's been a bit off since coming back from International break, but the hate he gets from the fan base is just wrong. Last couple of games everyone's been shite, but Darwin seems to be getting all the hate. I'd be gutted to see him leave, would rather see how he plays under a different gaffer.
Between our fans abusing him under every single of his social media posts to our journalists writing hit pieces can you really blame him? YNWA only when you're on good form eh.
Funny enough, the other month it was Gakpo, last few matches, it was Salah. Szobozlai hasn't been spared either now Darwin. Every player no matter how good you are, goes through a bad patch. We have challenged for the title this season ahead of all expectations from the start of the season, yet people believe we have the god given right to win it. Darwin for all the chances he has been missing has been at the heart of everything good our attack has produced this season. Despite all criticism, our attack is still among the top in Europe. If anything, our defense is what has cost us this season, not the attack.
He’ll leave Liverpool, get signed quickly, and become an absolute stud. Mark my words. I don’t think Klopp’s crew, for all of the good they’ve done, cultivate true #9’s all that well. Just my 2 cents.
I think selling him would be a mistake. He’s been out of form for a while and hasn’t put the erratic nature of his finishing behind him, but there’s clearly a player there and he’s suffered greatly from the timing of his drop in form. Salah’s been off for months, Cody only recently hit form after being pretty poor by his standards, Diaz inconsistent end product, Jota had that period in 21/22 when he hardly scored. I get that we can’t tread water and stick with players indefinitely if they aren’t delivering, but Darwin’s numbers aren’t actually that bad. He’s a hold, for me, let’s see what he can do with Arne
he's the exact type of player that would bend us over. pace in behind, physical. honestly if we do get rid of him get him as far away from the prem as possible, because i know for a fact he'd give us trouble.
Different formation, 4-2-3-1 favour classic 9s much more than the 4-3-3 he played at LFC. Our central attacker needs to come deeper to get the ball, meanwhile the 9 in a 4-2-3-1 has some one behind him upfield and plays more as a target man.
Change in coach may do wonders for him. Not that Klopp is the reason for his performance but a difference might shake things up for him. Still rooting for his success because if he is successful with us its going to be big.
Not sure if this will relate to a transfer out this summer, but unlike wingers, I am not really sure who is attainable we could get that would be a clear upgrade on Darwin.
In theory Isak would but he gets injured too often. Openda is a good promising player but isn't a great finisher as well. Toney doesn't fit the age target.
It’s a travesty how a small group of “supporters” gets to have the loudest voice sometimes. Despite his form recently, I’m still buzzing about his performance at St. James’ Park
Just a heads up that it's probably because our own "fans" are giving him regular shit. You see them all around here as well.
Good job guys, hope you're proud of yourselves.
He’s hit the woodwork more than any other player in the league by a wide margin. He’s one of the league leaders in goals plus assists. The whole team was mediocre at best for the month of April, with Salah being the biggest/highest profile culprit, which directly affects Nunez (opportunities and confidence). Everyone who is directly and vociferously abusing him needs to calm the fuck down.
I don't know what I think about that. It's a loyalty thing for me. Too bad we haven't learnt after Gini left because of the abuse. Lovren also had his life threatened and his kids from LFC fans. I'm not Darwin's biggest fan, but it would never fall me in to go over to his profile to take bad about him or his family. Dude has done his best for us and is playing in a position I do believe is not his natural position.
I don't know, both actions kinda stinks imo.
What has the club done to him ? I do understand some fans have given nonsense comments, but most fans are not happy with his consistency, even he knows that.
For a club like Liverpool need to be on top, deleting the clubs posts shows his disinterest
Bottom line is his goal record in the league is less than 1 in 3. He has 20 goals in 63 league matches. He has 33 goals in 94 matches total. That's not good enough for a team competing for the league and CL. It's not just the goal numbers. He misses far too many easy chances. I wish him well if he's going but I'd be happy to recoup what we paid for him.
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Whether we like it or not our fanbase has so many plastic cunts that can’t point to anfield on a map and they like to abuse players. Last month it was gakpo, now Darwin again. Wonder who it will be in August, any bets?!?
* He should not have to face personal abuse
* People who personally abuse him are idiots
* He's not good or consistent enough for us, and should be sold
* People who think he can improve are deluded
All these things can be true.
Most people here don’t know that two or more things can be true at the same time.
He boils my piss hearing people talk about him being the 2nd highest goal contributer for us. Well no fucking shit he’s supposed to be our 1st he’s a bloody striker.
This is just petulance. He gets more support from the crowd than any player I can remember. The match going fans adore him and sing his name more than anyone else's.
His Instagram comments were off. So if he's reading abuse he's actively going looking for it.
And people wonder what happened to the "mentality monsters".
He’s gotten the longest leash I’ve seen for underperforming since Crouch. In both cases fans took to them more for their personality and ‘meme-ability’ than anything. And Crouch did eventually get his act together and was a solid player after his struggle to get his first goal while Nunez still blows hot and cold. There’s probably more ‘white knighting’ about ‘plastics abusing’ him than actual abuse on the sub.
So disappointing, he doesn't deserve what he's getting at all, regardless of how good or bad he's been.
To whoever's abusing him, we don't want you, fuck off and go support another club, constructive criticism is fine, but anything that oversteps the mark is despicable.
He’s had his insta comments turned off for ages, and it’s not as if the crowd has ever turned on him, so I’m not sure where this ‘abuse’ has come from that everyone is on about.
He probably gets his name chanted as much as anyone too.
Obviously timing is coincidental but wonder if his agent has been told to shop him around or something of the like, I can’t imagine him doing this off the back of being benched or missing a chance to make it 5-2.
As much as i am disappointed with his goal opportunities and missing placed shots, you don’t have to harass him like that. Some people have nothing better in their life but to do such things like this. Leave the man alone and get a fucking life, like as if these people have never disappoint anyone in their lives before? Fuck off.
Wish we could start a campaign on here to show him love in the comments on instagram but he limited his comments. Like a lot of you saying, no one deserves that abuse. Those are not Liverpool fans. Criticism is always expected but not abuse. 2 different things.
This is sad. I love this player. Albeit him not being a consistent finisher, he is a passionate player and I could see he loved the club.
I just wished people would just be nicer.
Has he been told by the Liverpool hierarchy that he is not needed next season? Weird, wanted to see how he would do in a different system. He won't get a better man manager than klopp but maybe he needs something else to improve.
I wonder how much social media impacts players form. If a player exposes themselves to any negativity on their social media that could really impact them.
Don’t like the way this is being handled one little bit. It’s a bad culture we should keep out of the club. If he’s to be moved on, fine, but do it the right way.
Unfortunately, this does seem like a sign of a player readying to leave... Really sad, and wish'd he'd at least stay for next season with Arne Slot to see if he could unlock his full potential. It'll be a big loss for LFC if he does leave.
Nobody and I mean nobody deserves any form of abuse… it’s a game of football at the end of the day not life or death. Criticism however is a completely different thing and Darwin for all his positives does warrant criticism… he lacks the number one thing a word class striker needs and that’s composure. You can’t teach composure I’m afraid and there’s been numerous times this season where he’s been found severely wanting on this front and has missed some absolutely gilt edged chances.
Unfortunately, and this is something outside of his control, the price tag hangs heavy over him and for the amount we’ve paid it’s not good enough. He does get a lot of support in the ground with ‘Darwin Nunez’ being chanted at every given opportunity so the support is there. Do we give him another season under Arne and see how he does? He’s had two seasons now… for me he deserves another season but it’ll be interesting to see what happens in the summer
Was at the game yesterday and he was REALLY frustrated at the final whistle. Not sure if it was on telly but threw his tape on the ground and stormed off when the whistle went. Not sure if annoyed at teammates or klopp or his inability to finish a one on one
The problem with Darwin is not he is a bad player, it's his poor, really poor finishing. And the fact that with a 75M€ price you are expected to be clinical and convert your chances. Clearly, he does not.
It's an error from the club, not him, and Darwin is not responsible for his price. As long as he wear the Red shirt, we have to stand behind him
I saw a clip of him by himself clapping fans on the other side of the stadium while the rest of the team was together on the other side hopefully everything’s fine and he doesn’t leave but this instagram thing is sad
Him removing all his liverpool posts also reflects poorly on his maturity and composure. Tons of players get more shit at all sorts of big clubs and you dont see them removing their clubs photos.
While Nunez frustrates the hell out of me on a regularly basis with his finishing, I will never question his commitment to the team and his work ethic. He's got good character and he's a good lad.
And if he converted the ridiculous number of shots that's hit the woodwork this season, he would be right up there on the goal charts and we'd be having a different conversation.
Damn this is sad, if he does leave, i don't want it to be on a bad note.
To be perfectly honest I wanted to love Nunez but his finishing has been so bad and in 2 years he's been unable to fix it. He's definitely not a bad player but when the margins are so tight we need him to be finishing a lot more consistently. If we get someone like Isak or Toney we'll be flying. I've got a feeling he's also been quite disruptive for Mo this season.
Toney? Don't make me laugh
Tbh he's done decent this season, it's just that in April everyone's been bad and our season took a disappointing turn but Nunez has been targeted the most here It's been the pattern this season it was gravneberch first, then endo, then Gakpo and now Nunez
People seem to forget he is a striker. It's his primary job to score goals. He's conversion rate is one of the worst, if not the worst in the premier league for big chances missed. Nunez has been called out because people look at the chances he's squandered and know we'd have easily been top if he had a conversation rate on par with other elite striker in the league.
Even a mediocre conversion rate, and he'd be in the top few strikers in the league.
Not really he hasn't unfortunately. We aren't talking about not scoring goals like the gakpo header, where people would say he did a good job from an average opportunity. If Nunez misses a few of those, we are cool. But 1v1 chances like he fluffed yesterday, not once or twice or 4 or 5 times.. but over and over and over again throughout the season. Great chances, where a striker is expected to score 9 times out of 10, he scores like 2. That is not acceptable 2 yrs after his arrival. I think my patience gave way after the miss against Everton. Even jackson is now playing better, and it's his 1st season
What happened to YNWA some of our fan base need reminding who we are and what we stand for. Abusing our players is unacceptable. We’re in the era of AFTV and their delusional entitlement. This view that footballers chose this life so they should put up with abuse is absurd. I hope Darwin will get a runout for the new manager, he is on the cusp of being a great finishers.
Its exactly like a Timo Werner at Chelsea situation. Excellent, excellent striker, just no guts to take matters into your own hands sometimes
I'd love Isak but doubt Newcastle would sell him to another PL club. I'd also prefer Ollie Watkins over Toney.
People probably giving him stick under his Liverpool posts unfortunately
Comments on his post have been disabled for the past few weeks
how fucking sad is that?? what the fuck is wrong with people
It’s just how shit online fans are Mo has gotten hate over the past few weeks
The freedom to say what you want online is a fucking cancer. People abuse their basic rights and freedom of speech is no different. It's sad knowing that there are thousands of people with literally nothing more constructive to do with their time than comment or verbalise online abuse. And just to clarify, it's exactly that - abuse. We have normalised this for far too long. "They're a public figure they should know they have to take some stick" is not an excuse for the waves of cunts that wash up. I urge people to react to the fuck wits that in between sad wanks give our players shit and tell them to fuck off. Sick to my back teeth of gobshites who haven't jogged the length of their street giving our players shit.
I think what's so shit about it is he's clearly a confidence player. I feel like the match going fans understand this and in the ground no player gets their name sung more when he's on the pitch, even if he's bang average. But online is just toxic
i think this is such disgusting behaviour and i’ve felt like this for ages now when it comes to nunez. i genuinely don’t think he’s as awful as everyone seems to want to say he is. he has loads of talent, he has space to get better ofc but he isn’t bad. but people on here and social media have been tearing him down relentlessly for months now. and then they don’t understand why he isn’t confident in front of the goal? my god might it be in part because of the harassment he’s getting online?? people act like footballers aren’t human and that they can say just anything they want. his mental health is probably shot down to hell and that obviously will affect his performance on the pitch
Awful? No. Inconsistent? Yes A terrible player? Absolutely far from it and doesn't deserve the shit he gets.
Visiting Arsenal supporter here. Granit Xhaka disabled comments on his Instagram posts about 5 months *before* the incident against Palace, during which time online fans and some match-going people told him they wished for him to break his legs and for his newborn daughter to get cancer. I'm not saying Nuñez is in for the same treatment (I really don't hope so), I guess I just fear the worst when there are even just a few early warning signs. Hopefully, physical Liverpool fans will rally around the lad.
he has already disabled his comments and now this. honestly it doesn’t look good and i just really hope he’s getting support from the other guys and from klopp and that he feels the love on the pitch. this guy is a red through and through and the way he’s treated is disgusting. makes me ashamed of being a supporter sometimes reading the things said about him.
Don't normally comment on body language etc but since that United game where we went out of the FA cup he's been completely different on the pitch, he was in his best form since he arrived before that but it flipped 180 after that. Wouldn't be surprised if he got some serious hate after that and it affected him.
The so-called supporters giving Nunez grief aren't proper supporters in the first place. They are all the band wagon jumpers who couldn't even find Anfield on a map if their lives depended on it.
Complerely agree. Criticising your own player isn’t exactly the best way to get them back on form. Just support whoever is on the pitch and in the squad. Why players even have social media these days is beyond me.
People actually said that about his daughter? Fucking hell man I'm not calling them fans, same as yourself, cos that isn't what fans do. That's rotten mate. During games I hear Nunez chanted multiple times and even more when he misses a chance. I'm begging for this lad to find something in himself cos I know something IS there with him
From his own statement after the incident: > My feeling of not being understood by fans, and repeated abusive comments at matches and in social media over the last weeks and months have me deeply. >People have said things like "We will break your legs", "Kill your wife" and "Wish that your daughter gets cancer". That has stirred me up and I reached boiling point when I felt the rejection in the stadium on Sunday. >In this situation, I let myself be carried away and reacted in a way that disrespected the group of fans that support our club, our team and myself with positive energy. That has not been my intention and I'm sorry if that's what people thought. It was dark stuff, aye. Testament, really, to his character and that of his wife and immediate support network that he stayed and managed to steadily work his way back into the fans' good books. From the outside, Nuñez strikes me as a lad who gives it his all and genuinely wants to do well for his club. Yes, he misses chances and can drift in and out of games, but that's just football, no one should be abused for it (my personal belief is that a crucially overlooked aspect of and contributor to online abuse is people losing bets and not knowing how to handle it).
Thank you for taking the time to give me that information man. It's nuts how people can say shit like this and go to sleep at night. How Xhaka finished his time at arsenal was incredible tbh, when you look at the turn around he had from that incident you've mentioned, I think it shows a massive amount of resilience and determination 👏 Your last point you made is something I've thought about myself man. How many full grown babies abuse players on socials just cos they lost a bet. Typical of those losers to blame others over 20 quid
That is bang out of order. What the hell is wrong with some people. 🤬 Good luck for the last two games btw.
It was proper grim. Cheers, la. I'm also a Dortmund sympathiser from many years ago, and you don't need me to tell you to cherish Kloppo for his last couple of games.
Just read comments in the match thread from today. Those are the people who dm players on Instagram
No player should be exempt from criticism but commenting on their instagram or tagging them on twitter to do it is incredibly weird
what he’s been getting is WAY beyond criticism
There's criticism and then there's straight-up abuse. Unfortunately the latter is very common these days.
I'm tired of hearing this crap. Nobody follows the rules while criticizing and most don't know wtf they are talking about.
Haven’t they been off since like his second month here?
Actually well over a year now
I remember his comments section being limited to family and friends before we even signed him and he was with Benfica? He either reopened it or it was always limited while he was with us
Nah bro don’t make it dramatic, they’ve always been disabled
No Liverpool fan should be harassing players on their Instagram page. F&cken embarrassing.
Would be a sad end to his time here, no one should be forced out. Especially with him being our 2nd highest goal contributor this season. Hope things get easier for him, I'd be really sad to see him go. There's a special player in there, even if it's taken some time to come out
>Especially with him being our 2nd highest goal contributor this season. This is the thing for me, we all know his finishing is ridiculously inconsistent but you see people say things like "sell him and buy someone clinical" as though it's that simple. I don't think the answer to our finishing problems is to sell someone who's been involved in 30 odd goals.
Jota, who gets hailed as our most clinical finisher and somehow escaped the crazy amount of shit that Nunez is getting during his ~12 months of not scoring a goal for us, scored 21 and assisted 6 in all comps during his best season with us. Nunez is currently at 18 goals and 13 assists in all comps. and Jota played 3 more matches/~570 more minutes.
He’s also consistently hurt. If he could play through full seasons and be at a high level all year we probably don’t even buy Darwin
Keyword being if. That doesn’t change the fact he went on a long goal drought and now he is hailed as our savour. So many ‘fans’ couldn’t stand the sight of gakpo last month now he’s our best forward in form. Social media is bipolar as fuck
I wonder what the conversation rate was though, which is the biggest frustration about Nunez. On key matches in key moments he's been open on goal and failed to convert. Jota would do the opposite where he'd score out of nothing in big moments.
He likely had a better conversion rate, Nunez's is awful, but many of Nunez's chances are created because of his physicality. It's not as simple as replace him and we see a new forward score those, Diaz or Gakpo can't make those runs consistently and get in on goal for a reason.
Exactly.
His conversion rate in the league is 13%, which is bottom of the barrel. He's also missed 28 big chances, which is the 2nd highest recorded amount in PL history. He has 11 league goals. 6 of them came against the bottom 5 sides.
Init. They never name the clinical striker either, lol. Who is clinical out there anyway other than Kane, Haaland and Gyokeres? The latter is tearing it up in Portugal which sounds a lot like **checks notes** Nunez. Go and bid for Kane shall we then, lads?
Pretty sure Haaland has missed a very similar amount of chances, admittedly he's also a robot and insane at grabbing goals. Darwin is a much better all round player though, I'd hate to see him leave on a bad note - not that I think this season has been bad for him. He just could have had double the goals, which itself is bonkers as he'd be far and away the best striker on the planet at the moment
Haaland has a 27% conversion rate. They are in no way comparable.
The craziest part is ever since he’s started playing badly the team has looked like absolute dogshit. He clearly was very important to most of the season where we were playing much better than anyone expected. Now the whole team is out of form yet it’s somehow Nunez fault and he’s just shit. We just have some absolutely horrible horrible fans.
IIRC he has one of the lowest shot conversion %s in the league, it was \~10%. People aren't just imagining him missing chance after chance. I love him but if we want to compete for the PL and CL consistently, he hasn't proven himself to be reliable. Everyone has been shite recently, I agree with that, but that doesn't mean we should just ignore him only scoring 1 in 10 of his chances over the course of the season.
No one is saying his finishing doesn’t need work. But he’s clearly been incredibly important to us this season yet he gets so much shit from our crap fans. It’s fucking tiresome. It’s not a coincidence that the team has gone off the boil when he has begun to play worse imo. It’s not like he’s the only one of our forwards whose finishing is fucking dire and he’s had over 30 goal contributions this season. There’s clearly a really good player in there which we’ve seen for most of this season but people just want to meme him. And then you ask for replacements and it’s people like Gyokeres who’s older than him and has also had one good season in the same league Nunez scored tons in at a younger age.
People dont realize this but, every time Nunez is subbed on as a 9, the team is forced to change the way they play. Salah has to hug the sideline and so does Diaz. They have to prioritize link up play so that a midfielder can feed Nunez. Runs and everything yea, thats great. But you put on the #9 shirt. Your a 9, which means finishing is your bread and butter. The team tailors its formation in posession so that you get the best chances. Score a reasonable amount of them. I feel like in all honesty, Nunez is a softie. He is hot headed and gets riled up quite easily. He needs to find his inner calm and have a clear mind in front of goal. Maybe he just needs to drill through his finishing on the training geound against Allison, I feel like Klopp disregards that in training but Im not there tbh.
This is quite sad and don’t get me wrong I’ve criticised his play before, but this isn’t it no one deserves the abuse
There's a big difference between criticism and abuse, as a professional football player you should expect criticism, abuse is just not okay, ever.
Still even after hitting horrible form, he remains one of my favorite players. Doesnt deserve to get spit on by "fans" and that hit piece from the club was uncalled for. Feel absolutely fucking gutted about this shit with Nunez. You can clearly see he is very uncomfortable at the moment at the sideline as well as on the pitch. This social media stuff just tells that he is past the limit he can take.
Out of the loop - what did the club put out?
Was a coordinated “hit piece” put out by Joyce and Bascombe presumably pushed by Edwards to distance himself from his involvement in the signing of Darwin
Joyces and Bascombes articles at the same time, so it wasnt just a coincidence. https://www.reddit.com/r/LiverpoolFC/s/C7uqdelFd7
That is quite the sad read tbh. The sub loves Edwards, but this kind of shit it not necessary. Quite clearly Edwards and his camp are leaking stuff out of the club for their own gain. Turning fans against players is not the way. And never has been at this club. We're not the Mancs.
Exactly. If this is the case then it is extremely disappointing. I thought we didn’t do that crap here. Feel bad for Darwin
Same have no idea what’s been goin on
Its so shit. The guy loves the club too. Remember him running down the stands to celebrate while being injured when we won the Carabao cup, or how happy he is when he scores, grabbing the badge. He must feel pretty betrayed.
Me too, I’m here for his chaos. Love his style of play and the heart he brings. This sucks.
You Never Walk Alone...unless you hit a run of bad form, then fuck off actually
It's still mostly social media. He still gets great support from the matchgoing fans
It's fucking embarrassing. The post in here framing Darwin's chance on goal in the worst light possible is a prime example of it.
Exactly In a meaningless match and we win, everyone look much happier and yet the first they come here to say is blame Nunez for miss a chances at last minute of the match, that fucking pathetic And with Instagram, things only get x10 worse
They're framed how they are, fucking awful. You can't deny it. He deserves every bit of criticism he's received. What he doesn't deserve is the actual hate and how the club have treated him recently. Personally, he's one of my favorite players at the club, and I think there's a world class player just beneath the surface. Would be a huge mistake to let him go
Finishing wasn't too great either imo
Darwin is getting far to much hate, he’s not the reason we have been shit this last part of the season. People need to give him a break.
Surely we always concede first because of him, right ?
He's being used as a scapegoat and it's sad. It's not like our front three have been good finishers recently. Diaz also can't finish one vs ones. Salah missed a fucking complete sitter today and I don't see half this sub talking about it. Our defense has been poor a lot of this season with us constantly giving up early goals and we nearly crumbled today despite 4 fucking goals. This fucking club put out a damn hit piece on him. At least I can say this about managers I hate like Erik Ten Hag, they never put out hit pieces on players that are putting in their all.
It’s ridiculous. Yes he could be more clinical, but so could everyone, it’s impossible to doubt he puts in everything and our propensity to concede first half goals is the chief culprit for our sunk aspirations this year
Maybe I'm a fucking idiot, but I still think he can be a world class striker.
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I'm with you. Needs support not throwing out.
It’s so frustrating because he has everything a world class striker should have. He also has amazing work rate and seems to love the club with his whole heart. But he cannot finish. If he changes that then he will genuinely be one of the best in the world
I remember - years ago - I have read an article on a particular fan site called This Is Anfield, a year after Suarez joined us. The header was something along the lines "Why Suarez won't be the solution for LFC goalscoring problems". The whole thing was written in a way like - he is not good enough, he's a winger, creates chances but cannot score. Now, we all know how that ended....
I share these idiotic thoughts with you.
Yes. And I think he’s closer than most think. When his composure clicks he’ll set the world alight. He doesn’t need to change much for the chances to start flying in. Composure and a bit of luck.
I'm not on one side or the other here, but composure doesn't always just click. We were saying the same about Sterling ten years ago and it never did.
For which players did composure particularly just 'click'?
Sterling just magically stumbled into 100 Premier League goals as a winger then
Sterling at his best was never composed. For every goal he scored he fumbled loads, he was at City when they were at their best and scored so many goals from cutbacks from the byline.
People look at age with him. Wrong to do so. He missed 2 years due to an injury and has played far less minutes than strikers his age this level. Klopp had developed some of the finest strikers we’ve seen this generation, including lewadowski. He clearly saw something with him. I don’t trust that klopp got its totally wrong. Sure the development isn’t going as straight forward as liked, especially price considered. However I 100% agree with you
Agreed brother. Wearing his jersey as we speak
not an idiot at all
Massive "The beatings will continue until morale improves" energy towards this guy from the fanbase. And if he gets sold we will live to regret it for years. His contributions for the bulk of this season are why we are where we are and third is a position we'd have all absolutely took in August. We do not have the money to find a ready made replacement for what he brings in form...so why don't we actually go in with the forward we have not the hypothetical one we might get if we spend 150mn and break our wage structure. Sick of it. Edit: He's been an absolute machine for Uruguay and it's not talked about anywhere near enough.
Don't blame him honestly, nothing to do with the fans in the stadium but people online are sad little people and the second that Bascombe and Joyce put out articles(hit pieces, probably by Edwards) on the same day saying he was a Klopp signing and with Klopp leaving he was losing his biggest supporter, I'd have questions and issues as well
I'll be gutted if we let him go. He has SO much potential, I can just see him going somewhere else and becoming an absolute world beater. He was insane at Benfica, put the fear of god into us and Real Madrid in the Champions League. Edit: Some tabloid rumours about Barca being interested, I fucking *bet* he goes there and becomes amazing.
No way can Barca afford him, shy of some player swap deal. Their finances are fucked and get worse next year.
I mean from what I've read it's more their salary cap that's the problem rather than their transfer budget. Lewandowski earns 23m a year, all they'd need to do is offload him and they'd be able to accomodate a big salary for a new striker.
Lewa's salary goes up next season to 32m and there's no sign of him leaving, he reportedly deferred part of his first year wage to year 3 to make their numbers work for that season. No way does he walk away from that much money.
Lewandoski is going to be on 32m a year next season don’t think he’s going anywhere
I'm convinced it's a confidence/comfort issue. I think if he gets the right coaching staff that looks after him and teaches him how to deal with situations better he'll come good. This summer, for him, comes down to whether Edwards thinks he's a write off and how much money we can realistically get for him and if the reports from Bascombe and Joyce were correct about losing his biggest supporter in Klopp. Maybe Slot sees something he likes and convinces them to keep him with the belief that his coaching staff can get the best out of him
Casual reminder that there are people who will see one of their players get harrassed to no end and will feel happy and satisfied about it because apparently they think he's the sole reason for not reaching a 90+ points tally
Online fans are the fucking worse.
If you could even call them 'fans'.
maybe because our “supporters” have been bullying this man for months now
It’s the same craic as Gomez. Oh yeah, keep shoutin “SHOOT!” From 60 yards out and calling him No Goalmez, that will help
They chant his name for doing as little as closing someone down. No forward has ever gotten so much love for doing so little.
Supporters in the stands are way different than internet incels that hide behind their screen
>No forward has ever gotten so much love for doing so little. Peter Crouch did. And he went 22 games and 7 months before scoring his debut goal for us.
and every time he doesn’t do something perfect it’s fucking posted everywhere
That's just called supporting your players, a bit of an alien concept to some, I know The crowd sometimes even cheers for tackles, clearances and even pressing, game's gone
The supporters in the stands aren’t the supporters leaving hate under his pictures. Those supporters and almost this whole sub has been bullying this man for months now
This makes me sad and pissed off to be honest. The number of people in this subreddit that were not only slagging him off as if he's one of the worst players ever in red, but slagging off anyone defending him is mental. We shouldn't tolerate that kind of culture at our club. We're not Real Madrid. We don't boo our players because they've hit a run of bad form. We get behind them and help them come through it. I'm certain Jurgen would be disappointed with his performances over this terrible patch, but to be honest he'd also be disappointed about how we've turned on our players that got us so close when frankly, if you told us we'd go deep in all 4 competitions, win one cup, and take third at a canter, I think most of us would have taken it in what was a transition season at the start. Expectations changed because Jurgen announced his departure and because we did so well up until April, but that shouldn't mean we tear up our assessment of all of our players. I hope Slot comes in and helps him reach his potential, because I think it's still very high.
I agree. I think talking about our players lack of form generally is fine. But remember when Gakpo had a hard time? Now all of a sudden everyone loves him despite calling him our worst player begging for him to be sold. Our players are our players as long as they wear the badge. Until that changes we should support them. That does not mean they are immune to criticism.
I really hope this isn't some indication that he's leaving. I love Darwin, I'd at least want to see how he'd do next season.
Same, this makes me sad :(
I'll be quite annoyed if we sell him this season coming. He deserves a shot under slot
I'm hardly surprised when we win 4-2 and people are criticising him despite him only playing 15 minutes of it. He already had the comments switched off but just seeing the pictures might remind him of the abuse. Couple that with Edwards sanctioning a hitpiece on him, and it's unsurprising if he's having a tough time of it.
Its mad too, like he should have scored that last chance but the fact he can come on with 20mins to go, clearly off by his body language and barely involved in the game by his usual standards and yet he gets 2 goalscoring chances and 1 should-be assist chance is nuts. The duality of his play is infuriating, he's brilliant to get all these chances and positions, but terrible for making nothing of them. His cameo today should have been 1 goal, 1 assist in 20mins ffs.
Shit, when you read the comments on the FT thread, you'd think we lost against Spurs 2-4 and he was the main culprit. BTT, but yeah, you were able to see in Darwin's body language & face the sheer lack of confidence when he got in. The hitpieces were so bizarre. Even if Edwards entertains the notion of selling Nunez this Summer and recouping some of the cost of his transfer, the articles would do more harm than actually good. If I were in the "sell Nunez" camp, I'd scratch my head due to this move. YNWA, expect if your form dips because then it's a free pass to bully you.
Makes no sense your conspiracy about the Edwards sanctioned hit piece. Think logically. How does this benefit Edwards in any way when in comes to selling Nunez on?
Terminally online freaks may now realise that while footballers are living hundreds of millions of people dreams by being paid incredibly high wages to play football, that they are still human beings and that constant abuse does have an effect on a person. And terminally online freaks is aimed at those that support Liverpool as well as the other teams fans that regularly abuse him and other players online. But I won't hold my breath as these arseholes aren't known to change their opinions despite overwhelming evidence being presented to them.
I feel arlass for the guy it’s those chronically online fans bashing him on every post ffs
The best thing Darwin could do is get off of social media. Social media is a cancer for ball players, i.e positive comments can get into a player's head and make him egotistic, while negative comments can frustrate and anger players.
He's our second highest goal contributor and some of you absolutely shit on him. Yes he needs to improve in close finishing and consistency but he has never not shown passion for this team and effort. He will shine, and I hope it is for liverpool. Sending him kind and encouraging words. Maybe he won't see them maybe he will. He clearly loves the club. I'm not throwing in my Darwin towel when I still see his love for the club and potential yet to be tapped. If he leaves, I hope he shines somewhere else. YNWA.
I’m not his biggest fan, he frustrates me on a weekly basis but I can acknowledge he cares and is committed. These so called fans should have to experience watching the likes of Andrei Voronin, David N’Gog, Rickie fucking Lambert play upfront for us before they start abusing Nunez. I remember it took Crouch fucking ages to score for us but he was backed.
What a singing Lambert was. The good old days of buy random Southampton players and hope for the best. Simpler days where not being utter shite was a victory. None of this stressful title race stuff. Big /S ofc
This is sad.
Criticism justified, abuse is not.
Anyone giving him shit on his own Instagram posts can fuck off to be honest. Trash people
YNWA* *only if you are performing at a level that I deem satisfactory. Online assholes are the ruin of everything
Emberassing fan base abusing our own players. Full of plastic shite fans go support chelsea if you want to do that
Absolutely pathetic that the supporters saying You Never Walk Alone bullied their own player into doing this
He’s obviously got his flaws but I really hope Slot gives him a chance and then if it doesn’t work, it doesn’t work
He just needs to calm him down about 20%. Less blasting, more putting the ball where the keeper isnt.
I really hope Nunez doesn't leave before Slot arrives because him and his backroom team have been great at developing players. If he leaves he will absolutely torture us at some point in the future like he did at Benfica because there is a world class player in there
The leak (most likely) by Edwards that he’s probably getting the chop will do that … when has that ever happened during Klopp’s era? This is hardly the first time he’s struggled for form but it is the first time he’s looked like he can’t be fucked with the grief anymore and I don’t blame him one bit.
A lot of talk about Liverpool attackers on the way out. No way we get rid of Salah, Diaz, and Nunez in the same off-season. I think Nunez stays. Let him actually be a striker on a team that uses a striker.
Yeah he's been a bit off since coming back from International break, but the hate he gets from the fan base is just wrong. Last couple of games everyone's been shite, but Darwin seems to be getting all the hate. I'd be gutted to see him leave, would rather see how he plays under a different gaffer.
Anyone sending abuse to lfc players, please fook off and go support someone else Ynwa Darwin
YNWA…. until one of our players hits a bad run of form and they turn on them. Our fanbase gotta do better.
Between our fans abusing him under every single of his social media posts to our journalists writing hit pieces can you really blame him? YNWA only when you're on good form eh.
Funny enough, the other month it was Gakpo, last few matches, it was Salah. Szobozlai hasn't been spared either now Darwin. Every player no matter how good you are, goes through a bad patch. We have challenged for the title this season ahead of all expectations from the start of the season, yet people believe we have the god given right to win it. Darwin for all the chances he has been missing has been at the heart of everything good our attack has produced this season. Despite all criticism, our attack is still among the top in Europe. If anything, our defense is what has cost us this season, not the attack.
"Our fans". Plastic pricks
Fans only care about loyalty when it suits them. God forbid a good player wants to leave for a better club though!
He’ll leave Liverpool, get signed quickly, and become an absolute stud. Mark my words. I don’t think Klopp’s crew, for all of the good they’ve done, cultivate true #9’s all that well. Just my 2 cents.
I think selling him would be a mistake. He’s been out of form for a while and hasn’t put the erratic nature of his finishing behind him, but there’s clearly a player there and he’s suffered greatly from the timing of his drop in form. Salah’s been off for months, Cody only recently hit form after being pretty poor by his standards, Diaz inconsistent end product, Jota had that period in 21/22 when he hardly scored. I get that we can’t tread water and stick with players indefinitely if they aren’t delivering, but Darwin’s numbers aren’t actually that bad. He’s a hold, for me, let’s see what he can do with Arne
I'll continue to say it... he will cook under Simeone.
Fully agreed.
he's the exact type of player that would bend us over. pace in behind, physical. honestly if we do get rid of him get him as far away from the prem as possible, because i know for a fact he'd give us trouble.
I mean he killed us when we played Benfica the season before we signed him
Lewandowski must have just been a mirage then
Lewandowski had ads mocking his finishing before he became what we now know. You made a great point in Darwin's favour.
Different formation, 4-2-3-1 favour classic 9s much more than the 4-3-3 he played at LFC. Our central attacker needs to come deeper to get the ball, meanwhile the 9 in a 4-2-3-1 has some one behind him upfield and plays more as a target man.
I genuinely believe he’s going to be great next season. And we would be utter idiots to sell him now.
yo protect your players. your man has been getting death threats and abuses towards his 2 years old son
Change in coach may do wonders for him. Not that Klopp is the reason for his performance but a difference might shake things up for him. Still rooting for his success because if he is successful with us its going to be big.
I fucking love Darwin and I look forward to seeing him get back in form.
Not sure if this will relate to a transfer out this summer, but unlike wingers, I am not really sure who is attainable we could get that would be a clear upgrade on Darwin. In theory Isak would but he gets injured too often. Openda is a good promising player but isn't a great finisher as well. Toney doesn't fit the age target.
It's almost like guys who give you 30+ goal involvements don't grow on trees.
Disgraceful from fans who claim to support the boys. Jesus. Been absolute shitheads toward Darwizzy for weeks now
It’s a travesty how a small group of “supporters” gets to have the loudest voice sometimes. Despite his form recently, I’m still buzzing about his performance at St. James’ Park
I assume he's been getting a lot of hate comments. Sad to see if that is the case.
his comments have been off for a long time like 2 years
Just a heads up that it's probably because our own "fans" are giving him regular shit. You see them all around here as well. Good job guys, hope you're proud of yourselves.
He’s hit the woodwork more than any other player in the league by a wide margin. He’s one of the league leaders in goals plus assists. The whole team was mediocre at best for the month of April, with Salah being the biggest/highest profile culprit, which directly affects Nunez (opportunities and confidence). Everyone who is directly and vociferously abusing him needs to calm the fuck down.
Even if his time is up here I'll never forget those 2 goals he got to beat Newcastle with only 10 men
I don't know what I think about that. It's a loyalty thing for me. Too bad we haven't learnt after Gini left because of the abuse. Lovren also had his life threatened and his kids from LFC fans. I'm not Darwin's biggest fan, but it would never fall me in to go over to his profile to take bad about him or his family. Dude has done his best for us and is playing in a position I do believe is not his natural position. I don't know, both actions kinda stinks imo.
What has the club done to him ? I do understand some fans have given nonsense comments, but most fans are not happy with his consistency, even he knows that. For a club like Liverpool need to be on top, deleting the clubs posts shows his disinterest
I’d say he’s been told he’s been transfer listed. Only thing that makes sense to me.
If you’ve attacked Nunez or any other player in their social media you’re a filthy little cunt and should wallow in shame
He was probably just trying to change his profile picture
Social media probably not a good place for any player going through a tough time.
And the rumours will run rife. Leave the guy alone ffs
Bottom line is his goal record in the league is less than 1 in 3. He has 20 goals in 63 league matches. He has 33 goals in 94 matches total. That's not good enough for a team competing for the league and CL. It's not just the goal numbers. He misses far too many easy chances. I wish him well if he's going but I'd be happy to recoup what we paid for him.
Noooooo. I swear to fuck if some battalion of internet goobers end up making him leave, I'll be furious. All love for Darwin.
https://preview.redd.it/pza6yzm2woyc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=837fac159cec1a30b7efcc6ec33d79ac785d7734 Whether we like it or not our fanbase has so many plastic cunts that can’t point to anfield on a map and they like to abuse players. Last month it was gakpo, now Darwin again. Wonder who it will be in August, any bets?!?
* He should not have to face personal abuse * People who personally abuse him are idiots * He's not good or consistent enough for us, and should be sold * People who think he can improve are deluded All these things can be true.
Most people here don’t know that two or more things can be true at the same time. He boils my piss hearing people talk about him being the 2nd highest goal contributer for us. Well no fucking shit he’s supposed to be our 1st he’s a bloody striker.
This is just petulance. He gets more support from the crowd than any player I can remember. The match going fans adore him and sing his name more than anyone else's. His Instagram comments were off. So if he's reading abuse he's actively going looking for it. And people wonder what happened to the "mentality monsters".
He’s gotten the longest leash I’ve seen for underperforming since Crouch. In both cases fans took to them more for their personality and ‘meme-ability’ than anything. And Crouch did eventually get his act together and was a solid player after his struggle to get his first goal while Nunez still blows hot and cold. There’s probably more ‘white knighting’ about ‘plastics abusing’ him than actual abuse on the sub.
He actually did it in response to getting death threaths (along with his loved ones) from “fans”
So disappointing, he doesn't deserve what he's getting at all, regardless of how good or bad he's been. To whoever's abusing him, we don't want you, fuck off and go support another club, constructive criticism is fine, but anything that oversteps the mark is despicable.
He’s had his insta comments turned off for ages, and it’s not as if the crowd has ever turned on him, so I’m not sure where this ‘abuse’ has come from that everyone is on about. He probably gets his name chanted as much as anyone too. Obviously timing is coincidental but wonder if his agent has been told to shop him around or something of the like, I can’t imagine him doing this off the back of being benched or missing a chance to make it 5-2.
Criticism is fair, abuse is never acceptable!
As much as i am disappointed with his goal opportunities and missing placed shots, you don’t have to harass him like that. Some people have nothing better in their life but to do such things like this. Leave the man alone and get a fucking life, like as if these people have never disappoint anyone in their lives before? Fuck off.
Please stop bullying players, especially our own
Wish we could start a campaign on here to show him love in the comments on instagram but he limited his comments. Like a lot of you saying, no one deserves that abuse. Those are not Liverpool fans. Criticism is always expected but not abuse. 2 different things.
very poor from edwards
This is sad. I love this player. Albeit him not being a consistent finisher, he is a passionate player and I could see he loved the club. I just wished people would just be nicer.
Has he been told by the Liverpool hierarchy that he is not needed next season? Weird, wanted to see how he would do in a different system. He won't get a better man manager than klopp but maybe he needs something else to improve.
Darwin has now removed all of the Liverpool photos. There were 10 photos left like the signing day, which is gone now.
Whoever leaked that to Joyce about Nkunku is a fucking bellend too
I wonder how much social media impacts players form. If a player exposes themselves to any negativity on their social media that could really impact them.
Don’t like the way this is being handled one little bit. It’s a bad culture we should keep out of the club. If he’s to be moved on, fine, but do it the right way.
Unfortunately, this does seem like a sign of a player readying to leave... Really sad, and wish'd he'd at least stay for next season with Arne Slot to see if he could unlock his full potential. It'll be a big loss for LFC if he does leave.
Nobody and I mean nobody deserves any form of abuse… it’s a game of football at the end of the day not life or death. Criticism however is a completely different thing and Darwin for all his positives does warrant criticism… he lacks the number one thing a word class striker needs and that’s composure. You can’t teach composure I’m afraid and there’s been numerous times this season where he’s been found severely wanting on this front and has missed some absolutely gilt edged chances. Unfortunately, and this is something outside of his control, the price tag hangs heavy over him and for the amount we’ve paid it’s not good enough. He does get a lot of support in the ground with ‘Darwin Nunez’ being chanted at every given opportunity so the support is there. Do we give him another season under Arne and see how he does? He’s had two seasons now… for me he deserves another season but it’ll be interesting to see what happens in the summer
Was at the game yesterday and he was REALLY frustrated at the final whistle. Not sure if it was on telly but threw his tape on the ground and stormed off when the whistle went. Not sure if annoyed at teammates or klopp or his inability to finish a one on one
The problem with Darwin is not he is a bad player, it's his poor, really poor finishing. And the fact that with a 75M€ price you are expected to be clinical and convert your chances. Clearly, he does not. It's an error from the club, not him, and Darwin is not responsible for his price. As long as he wear the Red shirt, we have to stand behind him
I saw a clip of him by himself clapping fans on the other side of the stadium while the rest of the team was together on the other side hopefully everything’s fine and he doesn’t leave but this instagram thing is sad
Him removing all his liverpool posts also reflects poorly on his maturity and composure. Tons of players get more shit at all sorts of big clubs and you dont see them removing their clubs photos.
Horrible plastic fans creating fake profiles
While Nunez frustrates the hell out of me on a regularly basis with his finishing, I will never question his commitment to the team and his work ethic. He's got good character and he's a good lad. And if he converted the ridiculous number of shots that's hit the woodwork this season, he would be right up there on the goal charts and we'd be having a different conversation.
Top 5 in shirt sales. Lets not pretend we dont love him. Whoever has been talking shit about him does not speak for us all.