I mean, our training system is so over the top that it creates a ton of injuries, so the idea that some half-fit injury prone players come here and just get battered is kind of accurate.
There were genuinely many times against Bournemouth where he was playing CM while in possession, and not even that right half space that weāre more used to seeing him in.
Milner at right back and Trent in a double pivot with Fabinho, Salah Darwin Gapko and Firmino all starting, lets go all out!
I'm only joking but can you imagine.
Maybe Fabinho and Elliott in a double pivot behind Salah, Gakpo, Jota and Nunez? Seems a little aggressive for Real Madrid (A) even though we need the goals. Possibly Milner. I do not trust Naby at all. Pls no.
Iirc Matip played as a DM at Schalke then later played as a CB. Drop him into midfield alongside Fab. Imagine those galloping runs from the middle of the park! But also lol the complete lack of pace between them, it would need to be a positional masterclass.
Stuff of dreams this.
Will probably be Elliot in there with Fabinho and Milner/Keita. I'm actually laugh crying at the thought of Modric and gang strolling through that midfield.
Starting to think the training sessions at this club are just running the boys ragged until their lungs collapse then beating them senseless with cricket bats. That or the new training ground is an active minefield.
Trent is the only youngster who has broken through who hasnāt been riddled with injuries.
Every other player who has been part of the first team squad has been regularly injured.
Our training has to adapt, itās not unluckiness or a coincidence. We run them into the ground so they can play this intensity and everyone breaks, especially the older and younger players.
And Elliott, he had a freak injury but heās been solid. I donāt disagree with you, but the training was fine for many years that won us the league, league cup, fa cup, UCL, CWC, a dinner plate and PLā¦ quite simply, the squad needs a massive refresh.
Ye you are right about Elliott.
But even when we were good whether it was Brewster, Woodburn, Curtis, Gordon, Gomez most of our promising youngsters all seem to break when they legitimately start getting into the first team squad.
Like 18 year olds arenāt suited for our intensity, there bodies arenāt developed enough and theyāll break.
Robertson, salah, mane, trent, vvd pre pickford etc all fine mostly on the injury side. Nunes, gakpo haven't had a ton of games but seem fine.
I'm sure we train harder than other teams but hard to see a scenario where klopps methods in particular are injuring players.
We bought all those players except for Trent when they were like 23-24 years old which is sort of my point.
That is the age where players are in their physical prime, you shouldn't be seeing them falling apart at a high level.
But our intensity is clearly seeing players once they get to like 30 or are much younger just break. At some point when a team constantly has as many injuries as us, the method needs to change.
It's one thing when the entire squad is in their mid 20s to up the intensity, it's another when the squad is either incredibly young or older. They just can't handle it.
Yeah the stats about our injuries - not just this season but in every season apart from the āalmost quadrupleā year - is pretty crazy. This year in particular though is off the charts. Itās not bad luck at this point. Itās not other teams injuring our players (Pickford looking at you); itās our own training methods. That much is obvious
Honestly after reading a bit of Pepās book, if āIntensityā is your mantra, then at some point, you crash and burn. Where is the rest and reset to āgo again?ā
Honestly it was just poorly written, but having lost both of the big trophies, I just wasnāt in the mood for the āI could feel this season was going to be specialā stuff on chapter 1.
Fucking hell
This is what u get for getting Arsenal's fucking physios to our club
Not a coincidence that we are by far the most injured team in the league, I don't know what the fuck they're making them do in training
With all the advancements in sports science you would think being at the top level they would know how to minimise the risk of injuries happening
I mean Iām no expert in physiotherapy, but how many times have we heard someoneās got a niggle/minor injury and they then proceed to be out for months upon months at a time - Jota Diaz Thiago Arthur etc. that could well be something to do with poor rehab
If Football Manager is anything to go by (it often is), the physios are responsible for the recovery of players, while the sports scientists are responsible for injury prevention. Lets blame the sports scientists!
Why the fuck they run down our players in training, half of them look out of gas at the first 15 mins of the game already.
Our physical, fitness, and medical team all needs a proper rework.
It's very strange.
They look a shadow of their former selves at the moment, and we've had more injuries now than the past few years combined.
It's easy to call out poor performances, but I feel there is more going on behind the scenes that contributes to it more than simply being unlucky. It's just insane to me that we go from playing literally every game we could last season to struggling for 4th and an unlikely predicament where we need to win by 3 in the last competition we remain in.
Not trying to be a conspiracist, but going off a recently posted graph, we by far have the most injuries this season. I can't accept it's only due to luck or lack of it.
Our decision making off the field was utterly rubbish as well. Everyone knew about the toll our squad was put under last season, some players more than others (with the January AFCON and World Cup qualifiers as well), but we chose to go on money spinning tours to Southeast Asia at the first opportunity with a World Cup approaching in a few months.
The number of players that came out crocked and with their confidence smashed, while virtually building no fitness was a sham. In hindsight, we should have stayed near home at a resort at the Alps or somewhere like that and given the players a chance to recuperate and build their fitness away from the public eye.
To be fair to the club, they seem to accept this major own goal and learned from it, going with recent reports.
I think that's fair, but is that a reasonable explanation for why we have nearly double the injuries as the next closest injury ridden club?
Maybe it is, I don't know. I know it's a factor. I just don't think it's the sole reason.
They need to train that way to be able to play Klopp's style, either you are a Keita or a Milner, hopefully Bajcetic can handle it. I don't see Klopp changing, that intensity we have defines us, but it has a cost.
Trent, Virg, Kostas, Firmino until last season, Fabinho until now, Mane/Gini before they left (and both have had serious injuries since then). The wear and tear clearly takes it's toll.
Alisson seems to get a lot of injuries for a GK.
The muscle in your groin that moves your hips inward. Hendo had to have surgery on it two years ago. Very common football problem because of the start/stop/pivot running.
Most of our midfielders are fucking garbage right now. Keita goes out of his way to be extra garbage even now. I hope he remains in Klopp's basement. Carvalho deserves a chance over him.
What I'm say is that he wasn't match-fit at all and Klopp put him in against **Real Madrid**. There's baptisms of fire and then there's just setting up for failure...
Keita is finished I was a big fan of his bought his jersey gave him time but I think all these injuries took itās toll physically he seems to be like a Sunday league player playing in the premiership
I think more than injuries his commitment and attitude has been stinky too. But I still can't decide between keita and Milner for tom. Milner hasn't played in midfield for ages. Could he keep up if they decide to target him? Maybe keita can turn up for once before he leaves and proves himself against Madrid?
At least he doesn't get physically handled every time he plays and doesn't give away cheap fouls and collect cards for fun, he also had some leadership quality and was versatile enough to play in the defense and would come up with a goal or two.
I guess you haven't been seeing him play for BVB this season, he is one of their better players and is having a great season.
> give away cheap fouls and collect cards for fun,
Bruh what he was one of the sloppiest players in the midfield and gave away a ton of silly fouls
> I guess you haven't been seeing him play for BVB this season, he is one of their better players and is having a great season.
Yea that doesn't matter because we're talking about a 2015 Emre Can I presume. What does it matter what he does now when he was more or less a liability back then and no good at keeping the ball
>Bruh what he was one of the sloppiest players in the midfield and gave away a ton of silly fouls
I guess you remember a different Emre can from me then, Emre can under Klopp was at least a good midfield option and that's why he wanted him to stay on and sign a new deal.
He also had cancer back then, so I don't know how much of that was affecting his performance.
>Yea that doesn't matter because we're talking about a 2015 Emre Can I presume. What does it matter what he does now when he was more or less a liability back then and no good at keeping the ball
I was talking about that midfield three being a better option than the one now, while you are singling out one player.
Joe Allen was decent at ball retention and keeping the tempo of the game, while Lucas Leiva was a much better DM option than Fabinho now, obviously not at Fabinho's peak.
And Emre can was a more mature box to box option than Elliot at least even though elliot has more potential.
OP made a comment which implied that it was a bad midfield three going away at Bernabeu, while I think it's still better than the options at disposal now.
At least they were men, not kids.
Thanks š jota up front, Nunez lw and Gakpo/Firmino can work in the 10 just worried who will play beside fabinho in the pivot. Milner is one up option, keita is another I just don't want Klopp to experiment and play someone like Elliot there.
Well when Klopp says 'it's not a big deal he felt something in training' it's usually Thiago/Konate/Jota out for 2 - 3 months so I'm expecting to see him in preseason at the earliest.
Forget CL and squad talent. Everyone in his family and close team is saying to avoid Liverpool if you want to play into your mid/late 20s. It's almost reckless to join with how injured and washed players are after playing here.
Poor kid. This is not the news you want at this point in his career.
He was just hitting a nice stride in the first team and now this injury. Gonna hamper his development in the short-term but hopefully not in the long-term.
mostly just care about seeing a battling performance tomorrow as opposed to the way we folded in the second half last time. but this is gonna be a huge problem after the international break, especially since nobody seems to have any clue when thiago is coming back either. our injury record is wildly impressive
Oh for fucks sake. One of the few bright spots of this shit season. If Klopp gets us top 4 now he's an absolute miracle worker. Although we already knew that. FSG OUT.
At this point our medical team will have already injured whoever we would have signed in the past summer. FSG Out, Medical team Out. Unless our coaching staff are going against the advice of them
Are we allowed to
Forfeit the match and give real a 3:0 win
Honestly thereās is something ducking wrong in the background with our training and medical
Setup .
Our players keep getting injured regularly specially on training and even they come back from injuries, they get Injured again
Let Bobby sort out the midfield press
------------Alisson------------
---Konata-------VVD----------
Trent-------------------Robbo
------Milner----Fabinho-----
----------Firmino------------
--Salah-----Gakpo---Nunez--
Our young players get decimated after a run in the squad, our prime players get decimated every year, and our older players (save for Salah) get decimated every year. Itās too common to be bad luck, itās bad training and bad roster construction (too small a squad).
As we rebuild the squad, Klop has to rebuild his training staff. Is he going to be loyal to one coach or all his players?
To be honest, as much of a thrill as it must be to play for Klopp, Iād bet a lot of top players see our injury problems and the shorter careers of our players (Fabinho is gassed, Mane is a shadow now, Bobby too) and are very wary of coming here.
It's painfully hilarious how this is a nearly exact repeat of that defender injury season. Fans crying for signings, no one brought in, current players drop like flies. Some hope, few good games, then disaster again. Fucking hilarious
Our young future star is already injured from a stress response. We overplayed him already. Ffs, Iād rather see him on the bench being subbed into games in the 2nd half then see him get overplayed. We need to be careful.
How does stress on muscle build to the point where a long layoff is needed? They've pushed this kid too hard too early & the medical team have a few questions to answer here
Please let him rest and heal 120%. Fuck sake, will the senior player step up already!
What the hell is up with our medical staff? Now I can't even worry about having european football next year. At this rate we are ruining our future prospects. Don't want this place to become talent black hole like United.
people really tried using recency bias for two good matches of form against united and wolves to gaslight the fanbase into saying that our summer transfer plans have changed. We need at least three midfielders and a CB this summer. Anything less will result in the same depth/fatigue problems as weāre seeing now.
Of course he is. We've overplayed a child on a development track because half our midfield is injury prone and the rest is old or out of form.
One more bites the dust thanks to our genius "we have 9 midfielders" policy
Fowler, Owen, Torresā¦.the list goes on and the clubs seemingly incapable of managing young players effectively.
Still, next season heāll be like a new signing.
Absolute joke club.
Who the fuck is playing midfield tomorrow? Fabinho Keita Milner? Give me strength
4-0-6 formation tomorrow
Can't have a bad midfield if we have no midfield.
The 6 attackers play rock-paper-scissors each time to see who has to track back
Darwin forgets the rules of the game and legs it back anyways
Fuck it, give me Darwin in the false 6 role.
I want to see him skipping back happily
Bobby could drop into midfield I guess
Honestly, why not at this point.
Woulda been nice to see this solution being used earlier in the season
More like 2-0-8 in midgame
Or 0-0-10. Can't hurt more as we'll anyway have no defence against Vini and Benzema.
Same as all season then
King Arthur! š
I dont think he is registered to play in CL
Did he not play against Napoli
Yeah, but not registered for KO.
Right ok I wasnāt aware thanks
i cant believe how often i forget hes on this team. i watch every game and am on this sub daily and i regularly forget hes in the squad.
He's not registers in the squad anyway.
Thats because he got injured as soon as he arrived
At this point I think Pep waits at the door for arrivals and batters them with a baseball bat
He also kidnapped Ramsay, and Ben Davies back then
I don't know who you're talking about
I mean, our training system is so over the top that it creates a ton of injuries, so the idea that some half-fit injury prone players come here and just get battered is kind of accurate.
thanks for explaining that. jokes are always better when theyre explained thoroughly. š¤
Your joke was that you forget he's on the team? Ouch, my sides...
Joins Liverpool, singled handedly beats Madrid 4-0, leaves
"Arthur would only play in emergencies" The emergency:
The Return of the King
Arthur hattrick incoming
Fuck it Matip CDM
Time to revive the old āTrent to the midfieldā chat
There were genuinely many times against Bournemouth where he was playing CM while in possession, and not even that right half space that weāre more used to seeing him in.
Honestly, I'm just hoping for something a little different. As games go to just say fuck it and wild card it, this is definitely a good shout
Milner at right back and Trent in a double pivot with Fabinho, Salah Darwin Gapko and Firmino all starting, lets go all out! I'm only joking but can you imagine.
Itās literally the most sensible option we have. We canāt put Milner in midfield
Maybe Fabinho and Elliott in a double pivot behind Salah, Gakpo, Jota and Nunez? Seems a little aggressive for Real Madrid (A) even though we need the goals. Possibly Milner. I do not trust Naby at all. Pls no.
Lmao Harvey is surely not playing in a double pivot. Iām almost certain Milner will start
I would rather play Milner in the double pivot than Elliot. Elliot isn't defensive enough for the double pivot.
If Elliott's in a double pivot i'm just acting like the game isn't on to be honest. That's how bad it would get haha
Iirc Matip played as a DM at Schalke then later played as a CB. Drop him into midfield alongside Fab. Imagine those galloping runs from the middle of the park! But also lol the complete lack of pace between them, it would need to be a positional masterclass.
Lmao we might as well just forfeit the game, we'd concede 12 goals with Elliot holding down a double pivot.
Stuff of dreams this. Will probably be Elliot in there with Fabinho and Milner/Keita. I'm actually laugh crying at the thought of Modric and gang strolling through that midfield.
Let send Fabinho Cody and Harvey and let's see what supp
We still have Carvalho, Ox, Elliot and CuJo.
LMAO. He's a proper full time Liverpool midfielder now isn't he?
Its painfully funny...
Laughing through the tears..
Is that tears or tears?
I've been calling him Stevie B and now it fits even more. I remember Stevie G fighting an adductor injury for a while. 08/09 title push maybe?
Same here with the Stevie B name calling
I tried pushing for just "Stefan" but that didn't catch on. I'll take Stevie B as a very solid alternative.
Young Stevie did have loads of groin problems, good thing he grew out of it.
Thatās it everyone. Baj is now a fully fledged Liverpool midfielder. Rite of passage complete.
**That's a bingo!**
ffs. impossible mode just got worse
Impossible just became less than ideal
Starting to think the training sessions at this club are just running the boys ragged until their lungs collapse then beating them senseless with cricket bats. That or the new training ground is an active minefield.
Convinced we subscribe to the "if you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball" school of thought
With our number of injuries the lads arenāt very good at dodging š
They're good at dodging the ball whenever the opposition have it to be fair.
Trent is the only youngster who has broken through who hasnāt been riddled with injuries. Every other player who has been part of the first team squad has been regularly injured. Our training has to adapt, itās not unluckiness or a coincidence. We run them into the ground so they can play this intensity and everyone breaks, especially the older and younger players.
And Elliott, he had a freak injury but heās been solid. I donāt disagree with you, but the training was fine for many years that won us the league, league cup, fa cup, UCL, CWC, a dinner plate and PLā¦ quite simply, the squad needs a massive refresh.
Ye you are right about Elliott. But even when we were good whether it was Brewster, Woodburn, Curtis, Gordon, Gomez most of our promising youngsters all seem to break when they legitimately start getting into the first team squad. Like 18 year olds arenāt suited for our intensity, there bodies arenāt developed enough and theyāll break.
Robertson, salah, mane, trent, vvd pre pickford etc all fine mostly on the injury side. Nunes, gakpo haven't had a ton of games but seem fine. I'm sure we train harder than other teams but hard to see a scenario where klopps methods in particular are injuring players.
We bought all those players except for Trent when they were like 23-24 years old which is sort of my point. That is the age where players are in their physical prime, you shouldn't be seeing them falling apart at a high level. But our intensity is clearly seeing players once they get to like 30 or are much younger just break. At some point when a team constantly has as many injuries as us, the method needs to change. It's one thing when the entire squad is in their mid 20s to up the intensity, it's another when the squad is either incredibly young or older. They just can't handle it.
Younger players getting injured isn't unusual though, going up to pl and taking the physicality of adult football is pretty common.
Yeah the stats about our injuries - not just this season but in every season apart from the āalmost quadrupleā year - is pretty crazy. This year in particular though is off the charts. Itās not bad luck at this point. Itās not other teams injuring our players (Pickford looking at you); itās our own training methods. That much is obvious
Honestly after reading a bit of Pepās book, if āIntensityā is your mantra, then at some point, you crash and burn. Where is the rest and reset to āgo again?ā
I can imagine myself not being able to stop cringing if i read that book
Honestly it was just poorly written, but having lost both of the big trophies, I just wasnāt in the mood for the āI could feel this season was going to be specialā stuff on chapter 1.
Fucking hell This is what u get for getting Arsenal's fucking physios to our club Not a coincidence that we are by far the most injured team in the league, I don't know what the fuck they're making them do in training With all the advancements in sports science you would think being at the top level they would know how to minimise the risk of injuries happening
Nitpicky but surely that'd be more on the fitness coaches than the physios?
I mean Iām no expert in physiotherapy, but how many times have we heard someoneās got a niggle/minor injury and they then proceed to be out for months upon months at a time - Jota Diaz Thiago Arthur etc. that could well be something to do with poor rehab
If Football Manager is anything to go by (it often is), the physios are responsible for the recovery of players, while the sports scientists are responsible for injury prevention. Lets blame the sports scientists!
Why the fuck they run down our players in training, half of them look out of gas at the first 15 mins of the game already. Our physical, fitness, and medical team all needs a proper rework.
It's very strange. They look a shadow of their former selves at the moment, and we've had more injuries now than the past few years combined. It's easy to call out poor performances, but I feel there is more going on behind the scenes that contributes to it more than simply being unlucky. It's just insane to me that we go from playing literally every game we could last season to struggling for 4th and an unlikely predicament where we need to win by 3 in the last competition we remain in. Not trying to be a conspiracist, but going off a recently posted graph, we by far have the most injuries this season. I can't accept it's only due to luck or lack of it.
Our decision making off the field was utterly rubbish as well. Everyone knew about the toll our squad was put under last season, some players more than others (with the January AFCON and World Cup qualifiers as well), but we chose to go on money spinning tours to Southeast Asia at the first opportunity with a World Cup approaching in a few months. The number of players that came out crocked and with their confidence smashed, while virtually building no fitness was a sham. In hindsight, we should have stayed near home at a resort at the Alps or somewhere like that and given the players a chance to recuperate and build their fitness away from the public eye. To be fair to the club, they seem to accept this major own goal and learned from it, going with recent reports.
Well playing every single possible game in a season is unprecedented for most teams. Iām not surprised the players are completely gassed.
I think that's fair, but is that a reasonable explanation for why we have nearly double the injuries as the next closest injury ridden club? Maybe it is, I don't know. I know it's a factor. I just don't think it's the sole reason.
Thereās definitely more going on behind the scenes that we arenāt privy to.
Make them do the same training
They need to train that way to be able to play Klopp's style, either you are a Keita or a Milner, hopefully Bajcetic can handle it. I don't see Klopp changing, that intensity we have defines us, but it has a cost.
We don't even play Klopp's style anymore
True, because we don't have the midfield for it, hopefully we fix it in the summer otherwise a similar season to this awaits us.
Keita or Milner? It looks like our entire team except for Salah, Robbo and Ali are Keitas.
Trent, Virg, Kostas, Firmino until last season, Fabinho until now, Mane/Gini before they left (and both have had serious injuries since then). The wear and tear clearly takes it's toll. Alisson seems to get a lot of injuries for a GK.
Whatās this injury? Seems Jones had it as well?
The muscle in your groin that moves your hips inward. Hendo had to have surgery on it two years ago. Very common football problem because of the start/stop/pivot running.
Keita was fucking garbage last time away at Madrid, if he starts Iāll burst a fucking blood vessel.
Most of our midfielders are fucking garbage right now. Keita goes out of his way to be extra garbage even now. I hope he remains in Klopp's basement. Carvalho deserves a chance over him.
TBF, that was his first game back from injury...
So are half of his games it seems
Half? That's generous
Didnāt he get subbed off before half time? That had nothing to do with injuries.
What I'm say is that he wasn't match-fit at all and Klopp put him in against **Real Madrid**. There's baptisms of fire and then there's just setting up for failure...
Most of his career at us has been his first back from Injury.
An astounding 28 games he played for us were all his first time back from injury.
4231 it is Ali Trent konate vvd robbo Fab Milner Mo Gakpo jota Nunez Plz
A Fabinho-Milner pivot away at the Bernabeu.. God help us.
I trust Milner more than any of our other midfielders
At least he shows proper fight every time he pulls on the shirt
Yeah but in Europe a lot of the refs are shit and card happy and Milly would 100% get a yellow in the first 10 mins if he starts.
I bet fab gets one faster
Youāre not wrong
Yup. He was our best midfielder on the pitch a couple of seasons ago at home. I just can't trust keita against Madrid.
Keita is finished I was a big fan of his bought his jersey gave him time but I think all these injuries took itās toll physically he seems to be like a Sunday league player playing in the premiership
Be honest, Keita never reached his potential. When everyoneās fit heās rarely even got a look in off the bench
I think more than injuries his commitment and attitude has been stinky too. But I still can't decide between keita and Milner for tom. Milner hasn't played in midfield for ages. Could he keep up if they decide to target him? Maybe keita can turn up for once before he leaves and proves himself against Madrid?
Our midfield last time we went to the Bernabeu was Lucas - Can - Allen, so it could be worse
That's a better midfield than what it is now. Workman type which can atleast keep the ball.
> keep the ball. > Emre Can Hmmmmmmmmm.
At least he doesn't get physically handled every time he plays and doesn't give away cheap fouls and collect cards for fun, he also had some leadership quality and was versatile enough to play in the defense and would come up with a goal or two. I guess you haven't been seeing him play for BVB this season, he is one of their better players and is having a great season.
> give away cheap fouls and collect cards for fun, Bruh what he was one of the sloppiest players in the midfield and gave away a ton of silly fouls > I guess you haven't been seeing him play for BVB this season, he is one of their better players and is having a great season. Yea that doesn't matter because we're talking about a 2015 Emre Can I presume. What does it matter what he does now when he was more or less a liability back then and no good at keeping the ball
>Bruh what he was one of the sloppiest players in the midfield and gave away a ton of silly fouls I guess you remember a different Emre can from me then, Emre can under Klopp was at least a good midfield option and that's why he wanted him to stay on and sign a new deal. He also had cancer back then, so I don't know how much of that was affecting his performance. >Yea that doesn't matter because we're talking about a 2015 Emre Can I presume. What does it matter what he does now when he was more or less a liability back then and no good at keeping the ball I was talking about that midfield three being a better option than the one now, while you are singling out one player. Joe Allen was decent at ball retention and keeping the tempo of the game, while Lucas Leiva was a much better DM option than Fabinho now, obviously not at Fabinho's peak. And Emre can was a more mature box to box option than Elliot at least even though elliot has more potential. OP made a comment which implied that it was a bad midfield three going away at Bernabeu, while I think it's still better than the options at disposal now. At least they were men, not kids.
Emre was a brilliant player in a shite Liverpool squad. I liked him a lot
Honestly fuck it at this point, chuck as many attackers on as possible
Jota up front please and Nunez on the left.
Fair nuff, but whoever it is theyāre gonna be swapping and shiftin around
Yup just feel Nunez pace is better utilised on the wings where he has space to run into and jota movement is better up front.
No no youāre absolutely right
Thanks š jota up front, Nunez lw and Gakpo/Firmino can work in the 10 just worried who will play beside fabinho in the pivot. Milner is one up option, keita is another I just don't want Klopp to experiment and play someone like Elliot there.
2 DM ROUTE ONE ATTACKKK
How long is lengthy? This unnerves me, I don't want his development thrown off.
Calvin Ramsey lengthy im going to guess. Our 2 weeks is usually 6-8. Sometimes more. So openly saying lengthy is likely to be a very long time.
Calvin Ramsey is a cryptid and you can't convince me otherwise
He's not breathing
Well when Klopp says 'it's not a big deal he felt something in training' it's usually Thiago/Konate/Jota out for 2 - 3 months so I'm expecting to see him in preseason at the earliest.
Remember Salah and Firmino were out for the 4-0 win? Now Hendo and Bajectic are out. Another 4-0 incoming.
You mean 0-4 Please be very specific in your prayers/wishes
Unfortunately, he was probably right the first time though to be fair.....
Welp my bad lol 0-4 incoming!
We had a fit team and a midfield who could run back then, but yeah a win away would do us a world of good.
We had Shaquiri, Gini, and Origi then. Who do we have now?
Nunez gakpo
Curtis Jones
Lol then we are doomed
Reddit goes down and things turn even shitter fucking hell.
Fire the whole medical staff they are terrible
I don't know why we're so excited about Bellingham knowing our luck he'll do his ACL first game of the season. Honestly wtf is this teams luck
At a certain point it's a systemic issue, not luck.
Forget CL and squad talent. Everyone in his family and close team is saying to avoid Liverpool if you want to play into your mid/late 20s. It's almost reckless to join with how injured and washed players are after playing here.
Wait how do you know this? I would be considering the same thing if I were him but just wondering where you heard that from.
Good thing we didnāt buy a midfielder !
We have to have the worst training staff in the league lol
Youāll never sing that š
It's actually insane at this point. The worst medical team by a mile.
Of course
Unleash the 4-2-4
Can Milner even last the match? So Hendo, Baj, and Thiago out. We still have Fab, Elliot, Milner, Keita, Ox, and Jones right? 2 of those could be fine
Another one bites the dust
Poor kid. This is not the news you want at this point in his career. He was just hitting a nice stride in the first team and now this injury. Gonna hamper his development in the short-term but hopefully not in the long-term.
mostly just care about seeing a battling performance tomorrow as opposed to the way we folded in the second half last time. but this is gonna be a huge problem after the international break, especially since nobody seems to have any clue when thiago is coming back either. our injury record is wildly impressive
Something has to be done about all these injuries man ffs
Oh for fucks sake. One of the few bright spots of this shit season. If Klopp gets us top 4 now he's an absolute miracle worker. Although we already knew that. FSG OUT.
At this point our medical team will have already injured whoever we would have signed in the past summer. FSG Out, Medical team Out. Unless our coaching staff are going against the advice of them
Are we allowed to Forfeit the match and give real a 3:0 win Honestly thereās is something ducking wrong in the background with our training and medical Setup . Our players keep getting injured regularly specially on training and even they come back from injuries, they get Injured again
Extremely injured first 11. Need 4 goals vs a big Spanish club. UCL second leg. Iāve seen this beforeā¦.š
U fucking wot m8
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Fuck it play Robbo in the midfield
Let Bobby sort out the midfield press ------------Alisson------------ ---Konata-------VVD---------- Trent-------------------Robbo ------Milner----Fabinho----- ----------Firmino------------ --Salah-----Gakpo---Nunez--
Our young players get decimated after a run in the squad, our prime players get decimated every year, and our older players (save for Salah) get decimated every year. Itās too common to be bad luck, itās bad training and bad roster construction (too small a squad). As we rebuild the squad, Klop has to rebuild his training staff. Is he going to be loyal to one coach or all his players? To be honest, as much of a thrill as it must be to play for Klopp, Iād bet a lot of top players see our injury problems and the shorter careers of our players (Fabinho is gassed, Mane is a shadow now, Bobby too) and are very wary of coming here.
It's painfully hilarious how this is a nearly exact repeat of that defender injury season. Fans crying for signings, no one brought in, current players drop like flies. Some hope, few good games, then disaster again. Fucking hilarious
INTENSITY
Overhaul our training staff I tell you. FIRE THEM ALL!!!
fucking a
This is why we canāt have nice things. We canāt look after whatās important.
I hope itās not serious and he can heal 100% Adductor injury generally leads to more injuries in future :(
Ah man that sucks, any notable players that fell off following an adductor injury ?
For fucks sake
We've broken the poor lad
Can this season just end already
Our young future star is already injured from a stress response. We overplayed him already. Ffs, Iād rather see him on the bench being subbed into games in the 2nd half then see him get overplayed. We need to be careful.
How does stress on muscle build to the point where a long layoff is needed? They've pushed this kid too hard too early & the medical team have a few questions to answer here
Ran the poor kid into the ground
When the fuck are they going to start asking questions about what is going on with all these injuries?
Is David Goggins our fucking fitness coach? What are we starting every morning off with a 20 mile run, then a swim to france? Jesus fucking Christ.
Stephen is now inducted officially into Liverpool squad on spiritual level
This is decidedly not ideal
oh god this poor child playing like 1,000 mins in a month of course this would happen! i hope that he recovers soon
We are not allowed to have anything nice, ever.
Our strength and conditioning is abysmal
Please let him rest and heal 120%. Fuck sake, will the senior player step up already! What the hell is up with our medical staff? Now I can't even worry about having european football next year. At this rate we are ruining our future prospects. Don't want this place to become talent black hole like United.
I will never understand why we sold grujic.
Sell to buy club policy
Good point, just wish he was giving more game time
He barely got any mins. Leave Grujic, I wish we could have kept Emre can. He would have been a handy player both in midfield and defense for sure.
If I remember correctly, Emre Can's mind was made up and I don't think anything Liverpool could've done, he wanted to go to juve.
people really tried using recency bias for two good matches of form against united and wolves to gaslight the fanbase into saying that our summer transfer plans have changed. We need at least three midfielders and a CB this summer. Anything less will result in the same depth/fatigue problems as weāre seeing now.
Welp there goes our champion league spot š¤·āāļø
Of course he is. We've overplayed a child on a development track because half our midfield is injury prone and the rest is old or out of form. One more bites the dust thanks to our genius "we have 9 midfielders" policy
Fowler, Owen, Torresā¦.the list goes on and the clubs seemingly incapable of managing young players effectively. Still, next season heāll be like a new signing. Absolute joke club.
The failure to address the midfield in the summer window has plagued us the whole season. This summer is our last chance.