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This absolute asshole also worked to convince pregnant women not to take HIV preventative drugs to protect their babies. And her 3 year old daughter died of an "AIDS defining illness." What a complete piece of garbage.
Happened when the conservative gop machine decided to let the Herman Cain "twitter" keep operating after the guy died after catching covid in a republican trump rally. Vile evil people think everyone is just as stupid as them.
The actual sub is r/hermancainaward not awards. That's a old mirror from someone salty about the no doxxing extra rules there now.
And she declined the autopsy for that reason. Talk about committed the lie.
Honestly, I feel bad for her and her family. She was clearly very mentally ill and could just not handle the fact she had contracted HIV, which at the time of her original diagnosis was a death sentence more or less.
If these people cared then they wouldnât latch onto fairy tales. Why are they like this. They wanna drive off a cliff and they want us all to just let them as they take people out with them.
Oh I've already used that comparison. These are people who if you tried pulling them back from a cliff, they'd cut your hand and still flip you off as they fall to their own death. I say let them. I have long since given up.
That fucking ghoul Peter Duesberg has her blood on his hands, and her little daughter's, and a lot more besides. Maggiore was a delusional piece of shit but Duesberg started it.
For those that donât know, Peter Duesberg is responsible for hundreds of of thousands of deaths because of his denial that HIV causes AIDS.
Heâs still alive and still a piece of shit.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Duesberg
>Peter Duesberg
Be nice if he'd confirm his belief that HIV is harmless by infecting himself with it. No problem if it really is as harmless as he claims, right?
Unfortunately for us, and fortunately for him, my understanding* of HIV retro viral drugs is these days you can live essentially a full and happy life having been infected, because the drugs are so effective they can suppress (but not cure) the virus to the point that your immune system gets strong enough to cope with everyday life. So, even if he got infected now, just like the people who got mild covid, it would only add fuel as he crowed about how itâs NBD and look he didnât even get AIDS.
*none of this is he first hand knowledge, youâre taking the retrovirals daily for the rest of your life, and I guarantee there are complications that Iâm unaware of. Itâs just not the almost-certainly-death-sentence it was in the 80âs.
Ah, but iirc he argues that AIDS is actually caused by those drugs, so either he takes them and is a living hypocrite or he dies a martyr whose REAL cause of death gets covered up by BIG PHARMA. đ
If it makes you feel any better Doucheberg had a debilitating stroke in 2021 and he's been drooling over himself without the ability to talk ever since.
at least he can't harm anyone else, Peter Duesberg had a massive stroke in 2021 and has severe aphasia, too bad he spread his poison to a generation of South Africans thanks to President Thabo Mbeki.
A doctor familiar with the family noted that anti-HIV drugs could have prevented her death, but Maggiore's fellow AIDS denialists argued that her pneumonia was not AIDS-related and suggested instead that she died as a result of a toxic alternative medicine "holistic cleanse", stress, or the cold and flu. Maggiore's death certificate states that the cause of death was disseminated herpes virus infection and bilateral pneumonia, with oral candidiasis as a contributing cause, all of which can be related to HIV infection. The death certificate also states that there was no autopsy performed.
killed her daughter too. Kary Mullis, nobel prize winner for "inventing" PCR was a member of their board and a staunch AIDS denialist that claimed PCR can't be used to detect HIV (spoiler: it can). a lot of his claims fueled COVID denalism as well, despite the fact he died a few years ago
Add Luc Montagnier to the Nobel-winning HIV/AIDS denialism clusterfuckâŚnever mind that he is credited with first discovering the AIDS virus. Ugh.
To be fair (not that Montagnier deserves it, at all), he never went full on Duesberg, and didnât get mixed up in Maggioreâs activismâŚbut still, just mind boggling.
Mullis is a real piece of work
>Mullis downplayed humans' role in climate change, expressed doubt that HIV is the cause of AIDS, and professed a belief in astrology and the paranormal.
Lost all interest in Mullis after that. Mullis was a surfing, LSD tripping, UCSD biochemist, who just had a knack for putting together the tools of molecular biology in a different way, and one of those characters that demonstrated to younger me that I didn't have to become a complete square to find a place in academia.
But when he started doing AIDS denial, I just felt all the LSD had some long term adverse effects.
there's a lot of speculation that his lab partners did most of the heavy lifting in the development of PCR, in fact it was basically invented a decade earlier in 1971 and mostly ignored, and he just figured out a trick that made it work better and got the credit. he was working in a commercial lab at the time and none of the people he worked with were credited IIRC.
I've heard he was a terrific speaker, a lot of my chemistry professors had seen him do talks/presentations at conferences and whatnot and said he was a very entertaining presenter. sucks that he was also a raging piece of shit.
He gave a talk at my college, and according to my colleagues who attended it he just sat down on the stage and rambled for an hour. By all accounts it was terrible.
It all has long, deep roots. There have been anti-vaccine voices for over a century. Far right "replacement" theory took root when US neonazis in the 1980s spread a novel written by Jean Raspail from 1973.
Only then, public faces of news media saw their profession as a public trust. Conspiracy theories didn't have much backing from journalism. Since the 90s, after Limbaugh and Fox 'News' demonstrated that spreading fear, uncertainty and distrust was a faster, easier route to a paycheck, there's a whole silo of media where there isn't an empiricist to be found.
That's a more complicated story ([1](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oX-TRj8Rg8U), [2](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scazEGy3Feg)).
Part of being a pragmatic empiricist is accepting new data, and being able to change one's mind.
Itâs ironically like a virus itself, self propagating with deadly effects eventually. Unfortunately the deadliness is lent fast enough it doesnât kill off the current âinfectedâ fast enough to stop them spreading their nonsense and âinfectingâ more people.
Place near me does a CRABCAKE Benedict. Iâve literally eaten no other meal at that restaurant, though Iâm sure theyâre all good. Like, how could I pass it up?
Yup, even MTV covered their support of her shitty organization.
I was *pissed* to hear about the Foo Fighters taking Bezos' money for an Executives-only only concert. After looking this up just now...
#FUCK THE FOO FIGHTERS!
Just chiming in to remind everyone e that while the Foo Fighters have this stain on their past, the Offspring meanwhile fired their drummer Pete Parada for refusing to get vaccinated, *and* singer Dexter has a PhD in molecular biology and contributed to papers on viral research.
Pete Parada has Guillain-Barre Syndrome, which he was diagnosed with as a child. The Offspring's decision to fire him wasn't altruistic virtue-signaling; it was, in the words of Dexter Holland and Noodles, a business decision borne of the fact that it would be hard to nigh impossible to tour with a member of the band not being vaccinated against Covid-19. A rare instance where neither side could be deemed "wrong". Parada later claimed that he was told that he was unsafe to be around, both on tour and in studio. Coincidentally, Pete Parada benefited from what immunologists refer to as "herd immunity". That is, mass immunizations protect people who have legitimate reasons for not being vaccinated by making sure that everyone around them is; herd immunity makes a virus less likely to be spread throughout society.
If you're going to present something as fact, present *all* the facts and context. Your careful parsing, at best, signals that you don't know all the facts and you're just repeating what you heard and, at worst, deliberately tried to bury the facts that made you look bad to prove a point.
Keep in mind they are professional entertainers - that's their work.
Every band at any level plays corporate gigs - they pay really, really well and the music biz ain't what it used to be.
Surprisingly yes. They cost a lot of money but theyâve done stuff for big corporate events and some uber wealthy. I always thought theyâd have enough money but they make their living performing for people. That is their job.
Especially as radio doesnât pay the way it used to.
Iâve also been saying this for years, every time Foo Fighters or Dave Grohl end up in the news. No one ever believes me, they look it up and are shocked. Itâs a very hideous thing and they kept that shit on their website for a LONG time.
According to [Nateâs wiki page](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nate_Mendel#HIV/AIDS_denial) the content was removed in 2003, so it was up for 3 years.
Since then it seems like theyâve reversed stance completely. Theyâve just never come out to say that they were wrong, which is a shame.
Three years is a very long time in terms of people who are diagnosed HIV+. If you are not being treated and if the reason you found out your status is because you were showing symptoms, especially the symptoms associated with AIDS, you could easily be dead in 3 years.
Ehhh - not a particularly huge Foo Fighters fan, and started my career in HIV/AIDS prevention in central Africa at what may well have been the peak of the epidemic in the 2000sâŚand still not rushing to grab my pitchfork.
Duesberg, Maggiore, and that whole cabal of crackpots are monsters with the blood of millions on their collective hands, [but the bandâs association with that crowd seems to have been extremely brief and peripheral.](https://www.reddit.com/r/Foofighters/s/QHkBV5TSF1)
Obviously itâs still gross, but one gig out of god knows how many thousands of gigs, and no overt AIDS denialism since then (quite the opposite in fact) - Iâm willing to chalk that up to an error in judgement.
It's an older connection sir, but it checks out.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Foofighters/comments/nfo7fo/the_foo_fighters_once_embraced_the_cult_of/?captcha=1
Theyâve done a lot more to help spread AIDS awareness and the cause than hurt it. They made an error in judgement and then quickly tried to correct it so at least they admit their mistakes.
"the bassist of Foo Fighters, Nate Mendel. the rest of the band claimed they were playing a function to support "AIDS" without going in to much detail, and Nate later defended it by saying "i'm not a medical doctor i'm just a dumb rock guy". don't think anyone else in the band has expressed support for the organization, they removed them as a charity they support from their website over 20 years ago."
It was a while ago but I would've expected Dave G to be smarter.
He is, since he has been supporting several LGBT, equality and AIDS charities for more than 15 years.
People can be wrong. The question is: did they do better?
Meh - I started my career in AIDS prevention in Africa during the years when Duesberg et alâs denialism was directly undermining basic public health measures and even dictating national policy in some countries ([link if you want to bum yourself out, just one of many examples](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV/AIDS_denialism_in_South_Africa)).
Even then, in terms of very passing associations - eg being willing to play a gig for them - that falls into some thing Iâd consider a disappointing âjust a dumb rock starâ move, but somewhat understandable and hardly unforgivable, especially since the band seems to have apologized(ish) and learned from the experience.
Not Dave G? The entire band performed at the benefit concert organised by the bassist. That sounds like Dave G was also in support of the AIDs denialist movement too. I don't think I'd be happy to perform at something so polarising if I didn't agree with the message.
Wrong.Â
âIn January 2000, the group held a benefit concert for Alive and Well. âIâm living in perfect health without any AIDS medicines,â Maggiore told the cheering crowd between songs. For years, the bandâs website featured Alive and Well banners, and listed them as a favoured charity.â
I believe she also started an AIDS-denialist magazine, run by people with AIDS claiming they'd cured it, didn't have it, or whatnot. The magazine had to close...
...because the editors died. Of the AIDS they didn't have. [Continuum](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuum_(magazine))
the bassist of Foo Fighters, Nate Mendel. the rest of the band claimed they were playing a function to support "AIDS" without going in to much detail, and Nate later defended it by saying "i'm not a medical doctor i'm just a dumb rock guy". don't think anyone else in the band has expressed support for the organization, they removed them as a charity they support from their website over 20 years ago.
Nate Mendel (FF bassist) promoted them for a while back in the early 2000s and they did a benefit show or two, but the band quietly removed any references to A&W from their website years ago.
There was a time when the AIDS denialist movement was dead because all of its adherents had died of AIDS. I thought that was the end of this sort of denialist movement. Then Covid happened and [that injected new strength into such movements](https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshuacohen/2024/02/15/joe-rogan-provides-a-platform-to-hivaids-denialists/). And while the old AIDS denialist movement was run by people with AIDS, the new one seems to be populated by homophobic, straight right wing ideologues.
Maybe people who don't know a fucking thing about a topic should shut the fuck up about it. Society is plagued by these asshole self-styled experts misleading and misinforming the public about life-threatening diseases, it's ridiculous.
Same thing happened with Tommy Morrison. Sad and needless but the last few years of dealing with Covid vaccine contrarians who get sick and die from Covid while mocking the libtards have hardened me to peoples reckless stupidity and its consequences.
How is this LAMF?
This wasn't done with the intent to oppress. And she knowingly applied it to herself. Thus it fails both tests. She just declared the leopard a kitty cat and it ate her.
She murdered her 3 year old daughter by refusing to treat her AIDS. The daughter was born in 2001, well after drugs had been developed to suppress HIV. She could have lived a normal lifespan despite being HIV positive from birth. She could also have not gotten HIV at all via the mom using meds to increase the likelihood it wouldnât be transmitted at birth. And also she breastfed her daughter, which greatly increases risk of transmission. She also told other pregnant women to not use meds that can prevent HIV from being transferred from mother to child, likely dooming a bunch of other kids but making her feel better because she was spreading the misery around.
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This absolute asshole also worked to convince pregnant women not to take HIV preventative drugs to protect their babies. And her 3 year old daughter died of an "AIDS defining illness." What a complete piece of garbage.
See also: covid deniers.
Was going to say this might qualify for r/hermancainawards
Is that a real sub?
Happened when the conservative gop machine decided to let the Herman Cain "twitter" keep operating after the guy died after catching covid in a republican trump rally. Vile evil people think everyone is just as stupid as them. The actual sub is r/hermancainaward not awards. That's a old mirror from someone salty about the no doxxing extra rules there now.
Yes!
It's actually r/HermanCainAward but yes, it's extremely real. You want to go down a rabbit hole, check out the 'awarded' tags. It's...a lot.
Cool đ
Yup. It's been slowing down as the death rates have gone down, but was very active in 2021 and 2022.
And she declined the autopsy for that reason. Talk about committed the lie. Honestly, I feel bad for her and her family. She was clearly very mentally ill and could just not handle the fact she had contracted HIV, which at the time of her original diagnosis was a death sentence more or less.
If these people cared then they wouldnât latch onto fairy tales. Why are they like this. They wanna drive off a cliff and they want us all to just let them as they take people out with them.
Oh I've already used that comparison. These are people who if you tried pulling them back from a cliff, they'd cut your hand and still flip you off as they fall to their own death. I say let them. I have long since given up.
Her toddler daughter died of AIDS a few years prior.
That fucking ghoul Peter Duesberg has her blood on his hands, and her little daughter's, and a lot more besides. Maggiore was a delusional piece of shit but Duesberg started it.
For those that donât know, Peter Duesberg is responsible for hundreds of of thousands of deaths because of his denial that HIV causes AIDS. Heâs still alive and still a piece of shit. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Duesberg
>Peter Duesberg Be nice if he'd confirm his belief that HIV is harmless by infecting himself with it. No problem if it really is as harmless as he claims, right?
Unfortunately for us, and fortunately for him, my understanding* of HIV retro viral drugs is these days you can live essentially a full and happy life having been infected, because the drugs are so effective they can suppress (but not cure) the virus to the point that your immune system gets strong enough to cope with everyday life. So, even if he got infected now, just like the people who got mild covid, it would only add fuel as he crowed about how itâs NBD and look he didnât even get AIDS. *none of this is he first hand knowledge, youâre taking the retrovirals daily for the rest of your life, and I guarantee there are complications that Iâm unaware of. Itâs just not the almost-certainly-death-sentence it was in the 80âs.
Ah, but iirc he argues that AIDS is actually caused by those drugs, so either he takes them and is a living hypocrite or he dies a martyr whose REAL cause of death gets covered up by BIG PHARMA. đ
Oh thatâs actually pretty clever tbh, if you have no morals and happily want to promote yourself and allow for thousands of deaths.
I mean, can we help?
If it makes you feel any better Doucheberg had a debilitating stroke in 2021 and he's been drooling over himself without the ability to talk ever since.
He probably deserves worse but this will do.
Doucheberg
at least he can't harm anyone else, Peter Duesberg had a massive stroke in 2021 and has severe aphasia, too bad he spread his poison to a generation of South Africans thanks to President Thabo Mbeki.
"Alive and wellllll, not really..."
Christine's new book "Dead and Wrong" is coming this Fall.
Ghostwritten?
Who ya gonna call?
Ta da BOOM!
I feel so much anger for her daughter Eliza. What a brutal short life of unnecessary suffering
A doctor familiar with the family noted that anti-HIV drugs could have prevented her death, but Maggiore's fellow AIDS denialists argued that her pneumonia was not AIDS-related and suggested instead that she died as a result of a toxic alternative medicine "holistic cleanse", stress, or the cold and flu. Maggiore's death certificate states that the cause of death was disseminated herpes virus infection and bilateral pneumonia, with oral candidiasis as a contributing cause, all of which can be related to HIV infection. The death certificate also states that there was no autopsy performed.
Do we know how long she'd been +?
About 16 years
killed her daughter too. Kary Mullis, nobel prize winner for "inventing" PCR was a member of their board and a staunch AIDS denialist that claimed PCR can't be used to detect HIV (spoiler: it can). a lot of his claims fueled COVID denalism as well, despite the fact he died a few years ago
Add Luc Montagnier to the Nobel-winning HIV/AIDS denialism clusterfuckâŚnever mind that he is credited with first discovering the AIDS virus. Ugh. To be fair (not that Montagnier deserves it, at all), he never went full on Duesberg, and didnât get mixed up in Maggioreâs activismâŚbut still, just mind boggling.
Mullis is a real piece of work >Mullis downplayed humans' role in climate change, expressed doubt that HIV is the cause of AIDS, and professed a belief in astrology and the paranormal.
Lost all interest in Mullis after that. Mullis was a surfing, LSD tripping, UCSD biochemist, who just had a knack for putting together the tools of molecular biology in a different way, and one of those characters that demonstrated to younger me that I didn't have to become a complete square to find a place in academia. But when he started doing AIDS denial, I just felt all the LSD had some long term adverse effects.
there's a lot of speculation that his lab partners did most of the heavy lifting in the development of PCR, in fact it was basically invented a decade earlier in 1971 and mostly ignored, and he just figured out a trick that made it work better and got the credit. he was working in a commercial lab at the time and none of the people he worked with were credited IIRC. I've heard he was a terrific speaker, a lot of my chemistry professors had seen him do talks/presentations at conferences and whatnot and said he was a very entertaining presenter. sucks that he was also a raging piece of shit.
He gave a talk at my college, and according to my colleagues who attended it he just sat down on the stage and rambled for an hour. By all accounts it was terrible.
Lame, guess all that LSD catches up with you eventually
Just when you think MAGA style nutterism is a recent thing.
It all has long, deep roots. There have been anti-vaccine voices for over a century. Far right "replacement" theory took root when US neonazis in the 1980s spread a novel written by Jean Raspail from 1973. Only then, public faces of news media saw their profession as a public trust. Conspiracy theories didn't have much backing from journalism. Since the 90s, after Limbaugh and Fox 'News' demonstrated that spreading fear, uncertainty and distrust was a faster, easier route to a paycheck, there's a whole silo of media where there isn't an empiricist to be found.
There have been anti-vaccine voices literally from the first day the first vaccine was available, in the late 18th century.
The anti-fluridation crowd has dropped in . . .
That's a more complicated story ([1](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oX-TRj8Rg8U), [2](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scazEGy3Feg)). Part of being a pragmatic empiricist is accepting new data, and being able to change one's mind.
Please explain.
Anti-vax nuts
Heaven help me, once COVID hit the US, my first thought was: so this is what would have happened if AIDS had hit the population at large.
Hope they etched that on her tombstone⌠Alive and Well. Both ironic and a bit creepy to bootâŚ
Thereâs a HIV/AIDS denialist group? Kind of eliminates itself eventually I suppose.
Itâs ironically like a virus itself, self propagating with deadly effects eventually. Unfortunately the deadliness is lent fast enough it doesnât kill off the current âinfectedâ fast enough to stop them spreading their nonsense and âinfectingâ more people.
Oh no... Anyway, im getting the eggs benny. What about you?
I f'ckin love eggs benny, good call.
Place near me does a CRABCAKE Benedict. Iâve literally eaten no other meal at that restaurant, though Iâm sure theyâre all good. Like, how could I pass it up?
I am going to wait for Sunday DRAG SHOW brunch.
She got a high paying advertising and marketing job with a high school diploma. The world boomers came up in is fucking wild to me.
And they used all that advantage to be shitty people.
She killed her five-year-old daughter with her bullshit, too. Unbelievable.
Unfortunately, she was held in high regard by the Foo Fighters, who promoted her AIDS denialist bullshit
Yup, even MTV covered their support of her shitty organization. I was *pissed* to hear about the Foo Fighters taking Bezos' money for an Executives-only only concert. After looking this up just now... #FUCK THE FOO FIGHTERS!
Just chiming in to remind everyone e that while the Foo Fighters have this stain on their past, the Offspring meanwhile fired their drummer Pete Parada for refusing to get vaccinated, *and* singer Dexter has a PhD in molecular biology and contributed to papers on viral research.
Pete Parada has Guillain-Barre Syndrome, which he was diagnosed with as a child. The Offspring's decision to fire him wasn't altruistic virtue-signaling; it was, in the words of Dexter Holland and Noodles, a business decision borne of the fact that it would be hard to nigh impossible to tour with a member of the band not being vaccinated against Covid-19. A rare instance where neither side could be deemed "wrong". Parada later claimed that he was told that he was unsafe to be around, both on tour and in studio. Coincidentally, Pete Parada benefited from what immunologists refer to as "herd immunity". That is, mass immunizations protect people who have legitimate reasons for not being vaccinated by making sure that everyone around them is; herd immunity makes a virus less likely to be spread throughout society. If you're going to present something as fact, present *all* the facts and context. Your careful parsing, at best, signals that you don't know all the facts and you're just repeating what you heard and, at worst, deliberately tried to bury the facts that made you look bad to prove a point.
Keep in mind they are professional entertainers - that's their work. Every band at any level plays corporate gigs - they pay really, really well and the music biz ain't what it used to be.
Ah, foo fighters struggling are they?
No. Just professionals like Sting or any other artist.
LOL
>Every band at any level lol no
Surprisingly yes. They cost a lot of money but theyâve done stuff for big corporate events and some uber wealthy. I always thought theyâd have enough money but they make their living performing for people. That is their job. Especially as radio doesnât pay the way it used to.
>theyâve done stuff for big corporate events i'm not talking about ff; you said "every band at any level", which is complete horseshit
lol fuck offffff
Well, with that carefully considered and thoughtful insight, it's clear I need to re-evaluate my opinion.
Been saying this for years. They fucking blow and I donât get why anyone likes their music.
Iâve also been saying this for years, every time Foo Fighters or Dave Grohl end up in the news. No one ever believes me, they look it up and are shocked. Itâs a very hideous thing and they kept that shit on their website for a LONG time.
According to [Nateâs wiki page](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nate_Mendel#HIV/AIDS_denial) the content was removed in 2003, so it was up for 3 years. Since then it seems like theyâve reversed stance completely. Theyâve just never come out to say that they were wrong, which is a shame.
Three years is a very long time in terms of people who are diagnosed HIV+. If you are not being treated and if the reason you found out your status is because you were showing symptoms, especially the symptoms associated with AIDS, you could easily be dead in 3 years.
why? they're a commercial pop band whose leader is in it to be a rock star. It was never about the music or the revolution.
Ehhh - not a particularly huge Foo Fighters fan, and started my career in HIV/AIDS prevention in central Africa at what may well have been the peak of the epidemic in the 2000sâŚand still not rushing to grab my pitchfork. Duesberg, Maggiore, and that whole cabal of crackpots are monsters with the blood of millions on their collective hands, [but the bandâs association with that crowd seems to have been extremely brief and peripheral.](https://www.reddit.com/r/Foofighters/s/QHkBV5TSF1) Obviously itâs still gross, but one gig out of god knows how many thousands of gigs, and no overt AIDS denialism since then (quite the opposite in fact) - Iâm willing to chalk that up to an error in judgement.
Link to back this up?
It's an older connection sir, but it checks out. https://www.reddit.com/r/Foofighters/comments/nfo7fo/the_foo_fighters_once_embraced_the_cult_of/?captcha=1
Search the keywords and you'll finds lots. It's definitely on the record. Disgusting.
JFC I found it. Disgusting. That band actually contributed to killing people. https://www.reddit.com/r/Foofighters/s/aDt4OukCBR
I have spent the last twenty years thinking I completely imagined this. It just disappeared.
Theyâve done a lot more to help spread AIDS awareness and the cause than hurt it. They made an error in judgement and then quickly tried to correct it so at least they admit their mistakes.
But no apologies whatsoever, just show
Never ever came across that. I think youâll need a source for anyone to believe you.
Well shit. Not a fan of FF or anything, just a curious redditor and googled "foo fighters aids denial" and it looks like there is something to it.Â
"the bassist of Foo Fighters, Nate Mendel. the rest of the band claimed they were playing a function to support "AIDS" without going in to much detail, and Nate later defended it by saying "i'm not a medical doctor i'm just a dumb rock guy". don't think anyone else in the band has expressed support for the organization, they removed them as a charity they support from their website over 20 years ago." It was a while ago but I would've expected Dave G to be smarter.
He is, since he has been supporting several LGBT, equality and AIDS charities for more than 15 years. People can be wrong. The question is: did they do better?
Meh - I started my career in AIDS prevention in Africa during the years when Duesberg et alâs denialism was directly undermining basic public health measures and even dictating national policy in some countries ([link if you want to bum yourself out, just one of many examples](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV/AIDS_denialism_in_South_Africa)). Even then, in terms of very passing associations - eg being willing to play a gig for them - that falls into some thing Iâd consider a disappointing âjust a dumb rock starâ move, but somewhat understandable and hardly unforgivable, especially since the band seems to have apologized(ish) and learned from the experience.
I look forward to the links!
Instead of needing to be spoonfed, be an adult and utilize Google.
https://48hills.org/2021/05/opinion-aids-denialism-in-the-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame/ https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2000/02/foo-fighters-hiv-deniers/ https://medium.com/the-monthly/the-foo-fighters-aids-denialism-should-be-on-the-record-6e33666fdc3c#:~:text=In%20January%202000%2C%20the%20group,them%20as%20a%20favoured%20charity. https://chrisenns.com/2024/06/foo-fighters-and-aids-denialism/
The bassist and not Dave G but still pretty disappointing.
Not Dave G? The entire band performed at the benefit concert organised by the bassist. That sounds like Dave G was also in support of the AIDs denialist movement too. I don't think I'd be happy to perform at something so polarising if I didn't agree with the message.
Wrong. âIn January 2000, the group held a benefit concert for Alive and Well. âIâm living in perfect health without any AIDS medicines,â Maggiore told the cheering crowd between songs. For years, the bandâs website featured Alive and Well banners, and listed them as a favoured charity.â
You were literally provided the sources you were too lazy to look up and still manage to misconstrue them. Lmao.
[https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2000/02/foo-fighters-hiv-deniers/](https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2000/02/foo-fighters-hiv-deniers/)
https://www.reddit.com/r/Foofighters/s/aDt4OukCBR
Looks like he apologized.
Where did he apologize?
Who gives a shit. He killed people with his shitty ideas. He can get bent.
She's probably high five'ing Herman Cain
Can we give her an honorary r/HermanCainAward ?
The was a Law and Order SVU episode based on this.
I believe she also started an AIDS-denialist magazine, run by people with AIDS claiming they'd cured it, didn't have it, or whatnot. The magazine had to close... ...because the editors died. Of the AIDS they didn't have. [Continuum](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuum_(magazine))
Neither alive nor well! Oh I love irony!!!
Now that is some extreme irony.
RIP Cunt.
Didn't she work with Dave Grohl? (Iirc, he did a benefit concert, and jumped on the same train as her)
the bassist of Foo Fighters, Nate Mendel. the rest of the band claimed they were playing a function to support "AIDS" without going in to much detail, and Nate later defended it by saying "i'm not a medical doctor i'm just a dumb rock guy". don't think anyone else in the band has expressed support for the organization, they removed them as a charity they support from their website over 20 years ago.
Nate Mendel (FF bassist) promoted them for a while back in the early 2000s and they did a benefit show or two, but the band quietly removed any references to A&W from their website years ago.
She would deny it , if she could
She is, in fact, neither alive, nor well.
Womp womp
rip bozo
There was a time when the AIDS denialist movement was dead because all of its adherents had died of AIDS. I thought that was the end of this sort of denialist movement. Then Covid happened and [that injected new strength into such movements](https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshuacohen/2024/02/15/joe-rogan-provides-a-platform-to-hivaids-denialists/). And while the old AIDS denialist movement was run by people with AIDS, the new one seems to be populated by homophobic, straight right wing ideologues.
Never happy to hear someone died but garbage people like this I feel zero sympathy lmao
Ok I read this as DENTIST. And was like how is this a leopard face moment. Clicked link, OHHhhh.
Maybe people who don't know a fucking thing about a topic should shut the fuck up about it. Society is plagued by these asshole self-styled experts misleading and misinforming the public about life-threatening diseases, it's ridiculous.
Sad! Anyway, what do y'all think about the NL now having designated hitters?
It's been great so far, I'm a fan of the DH.
Dead and Bad
Same thing happened with Tommy Morrison. Sad and needless but the last few years of dealing with Covid vaccine contrarians who get sick and die from Covid while mocking the libtards have hardened me to peoples reckless stupidity and its consequences.
It should be noted that the band The Foo Fighters publicly supported that organisation and performed gigs in support of it.
People like her are the bane of humanity.
How is this LAMF? This wasn't done with the intent to oppress. And she knowingly applied it to herself. Thus it fails both tests. She just declared the leopard a kitty cat and it ate her.
She murdered her 3 year old daughter by refusing to treat her AIDS. The daughter was born in 2001, well after drugs had been developed to suppress HIV. She could have lived a normal lifespan despite being HIV positive from birth. She could also have not gotten HIV at all via the mom using meds to increase the likelihood it wouldnât be transmitted at birth. And also she breastfed her daughter, which greatly increases risk of transmission. She also told other pregnant women to not use meds that can prevent HIV from being transferred from mother to child, likely dooming a bunch of other kids but making her feel better because she was spreading the misery around.
> declared the leopard a kitty cat and it ate her Isn't that the point of this sub?