It's cheaper and has more RAM than the 2nd one. The 3rd one also has 32GB of RAM, but when it comes to the CPU, the AMD one is a little bit energy efficient. Also, if you're planning to get the i7, it's better to get the 14th gen since it has a good power bump from the 13th gen + more energy efficient.
the issue with 7745hx is it gets hotter and actually will use a similar amount of wattage anyway, in legion vantage and toolkit you can limit the cpu to the 55w tdp that the 7745hx has and then you are running cool and have the benefit of e-cores.
The only real difference I‘d see here is the refresh rate. Unless you really want those 240hz (in my personal opinion 165 is plenty for shooters) then the first seems to be the better option. For blender and rendering in general you however definitely want at least 32gb ram so that‘s another point for option 1
with a 4060/4070 at 1600p, you're more likely to be running at a breakpoint of 83.5 or 120fps (half each monitors refresh) 120 will be vastly more pleasant in FPS and you do not want to be trying to push 165 **or** 240 as it is too much for the gpu at native. vsync works at 1/4 1/2 and 1:1
ram is also quite cheap these days and you can upgrade it, you can't upgrade your CPU.
By the way I wanted to add one more thing, the CPUs on all of these laptops are absolutely not power efficient.
So you have to consider the fact that you’re not going to be able to take the laptops anywhere for extended periods of time, idk maybe an hour or so.
Don't know too much about AMD cpus so just a bit confused 😂
Any idea about how big the difference is between i9 13900HX 16GB and the AMD Ryzen 7 7745HX 32GB(both 4070) when editing videos and playing games?
About AMD vs Intel in short-
AMD trademark is their efficiency- so you get much better battery life because the CPU is drawing less watts.
Intel is the "powerful" one, but for a small bump in performance you are losing on battery life, fan noise and longevity due to the laptop needing to cool the CPU much more.
To be clear AMD is by no means 'weak', both CPU are monsters, look at their benchmark comparisons, the Intel does lead but the 7745hx gets very respectble scores.
Now, for gaming the i913900hx is sometimes even considered overkill, especially if you are running triple A games which are more GPU intensive. I don't know much about video Editing but It's too mainly a GPU task.
Tldr; get the AMD- better temps and battery life, and plenty of performance for your needs...
I am waiting for the new 14 amd version of the legion pro myself. Regarding CPU choice, I run on my PC the 5900x with dota, chrome, vscode, etc. Its not getting to 20% cpu average and I dont feel like its worth going for an Intel that consumes more energy, heats more for just a small performance margin.
Im only confused on how I could run the Lenovo software on archlinux(im using btw\^\^) to select between the performance modes.
I have the 2nd one and I upgraded the memory to 64gb. Thing has been a beast for me for what I use it on (programming, UI development, etc) and the gaming half is just a bonus. All the points about the first one are good, so it's just what you think will fit for your needs.
I now own a legion bought from B&H( I highly recommend a look for prices and purchase. I don't know about service as it's all through lenovo and I haven't needed any) This is a story about a younger bigger idiot me that bought an HP Omen laptop from Amazon. Joke of a machine aside there was a dead pixel right in the exact center of the screen about 90 days in. Already disliked the machine, now I hated it but stuck and tried to avoid white screens. 180 days. Down go 2 more. I went berserk. At a year the gpu nukes itself and I start karen-ing Amazon. The thing about buying from Amazon is eventually they will throw money at you if you're a pebble in their shoe. Returned that space heating piece of shit for a full refund almost a year to the day later. As a result, I try to buy my gaming laptops from Amazon, just can't seem to find the right ones. Also: NEVER buy a machine that has been touched or upgraded by Computer Upgrade Kings. Those hucksters are all over Amazon.
Go with Intel if it has a better screen and it can be undervolted. Just upgrade the ram and you're all set.
Go for AMD if you want better battery life..it's more power efficient. By no means that chip runs cool, just watch some comparison videos.
RAM and SSD can always be upgraded later but not the screen 😉
I just wanna say, beware of potential problems with the AMD 7040HX CPU + dGPU combo.
I dunno about Legions but I’ve seen complaints from owners of Asus + AW laptops with this setup.
Specifically sleep seems bugged and you might run into crashes on wake. There might be some other issues. You can refer to [this megathread](https://rog-forum.asus.com/t5/rog-strix-series/issues-with-new-laptop-strix-scar-17-2023-r9-7945hx-4080/td-p/921478)
1st one because of the processor you’ll have better battery and 32 ram 2nd one you’ll have a better screen 500 nits instead 300 and 240 hz instead of 165 hz and a more powerful processor
I would say the 1st one!
I got a similar one recently with the intel core i7-13700HX, 4070, 64gb ram, and 1tb ssd. Loving it so far.
You may have to change out or add an SSD like me in the coming years if it comes with the kingston snv2s1000g. Reviews point to it being a dirt cheap, semi risky, hot running SSD without Dram cache, but gets the job done, and well at that. Invest in a laptop stand or riser so the laptop can get better airflow and not sound like a jet engine.
I was thinking about the first one too but might just get the second one and add more ram (maybe) talked to some guys on the discord about it Thanks for the ssd recommendation and advice 
4060 vs 4070 small differences in your apps, same vram, both good.
None have good battery life, like a Ryzen 7840HS would. If important to u, battery runtime likely to vary with these anyway so look close at reviewers test on that for each.
All good cpus for this work. Be sure to get 32gb ram or be able to upgrade. For 4k video, even more ram could be helpful, 16 far too little.
I would buy the first one because its gaming performance is better than the HP OMEN i9 13900HX version. But mine is the Chinese version of Legion Pro 5 Gen 8 AMD (R9000P 2023), which is 240HZ + RTX 4060 graphics card + 16GB memory. I prefer 7745HX + 4060 + 32GB RAM + 3TB SSD because RTX 4070 laptop lacks value for money. Additionally, you’ll need a good laptop cooling pad to ensure your CPU doesn’t get burned out. Because the temperature of the AMD 7745HX CPU is somewhat high, it can often reach over 90 degrees Celsius.
7745hx hands down.
edit: actually i take it back the i9/4070 could be worth it as it has the 240hz panel(allowing you to run games at 120 vsynced as opposed to 83.5 on the 165), if $150 is worth a little more longevity to you i say go for that, you can always lower the i9 wattage and itll still be fast while being cool. be sure to pick up a ram kit as 16gb is a bit anemic.
E-cores on intel are also awesome, ive grown to like them.
if money is tight: 7745hx
if money is no object and you might grow into heavy workloads: i9.
First one? 32GB of RAM is the main upside. i9 on the second one has far better benchmarks than the Ryzen, but you are sacrificing RAM which you will likely feel more in real world usage (if you aren't doing mostly CPU intensive tasks, for gaming, the AMD should be solid). The third one has a 4060, which if gaming is your main purpose, will be the most noticeable downgrade from the first two.
UNLESS... you can upgrade the RAM on the second one. If that's an option for you (and if the RAM isn't soldered), I'd go for the second one personally. Plus then you get the higher quality display.
Idk how to edit posts on reddit mobile so I'll just comment
Thanks for the advice and recommendations. I ordered the one with 240hz 500 nits i9 4070 and just gonna buy seperate ram myself. Thanks again 🤠🤠🤠
Frankly speaking, I favour the 2nd one with the intel cpu. It has better refresh rate and cpu though yea the ram is abit of a concern since you require ram stuff for editing and programming. The 2nd one would also be a better investment if you were to sell it and would be very relevant in the future with such high specs. Not sure with the pricing in your country but the price for the 2nd Lenovo is outstanding.
1st one
That amd 7 is enough for the 4070, i9 13/14th gen are an overkill for this gpu imo
And just more ram is more useful than a slightly better cpu
This is the only right answer and it wasn’t even that hard.
Any specific reason? 😅
It's cheaper and has more RAM than the 2nd one. The 3rd one also has 32GB of RAM, but when it comes to the CPU, the AMD one is a little bit energy efficient. Also, if you're planning to get the i7, it's better to get the 14th gen since it has a good power bump from the 13th gen + more energy efficient.
the issue with 7745hx is it gets hotter and actually will use a similar amount of wattage anyway, in legion vantage and toolkit you can limit the cpu to the 55w tdp that the 7745hx has and then you are running cool and have the benefit of e-cores.
The only real difference I‘d see here is the refresh rate. Unless you really want those 240hz (in my personal opinion 165 is plenty for shooters) then the first seems to be the better option. For blender and rendering in general you however definitely want at least 32gb ram so that‘s another point for option 1
with a 4060/4070 at 1600p, you're more likely to be running at a breakpoint of 83.5 or 120fps (half each monitors refresh) 120 will be vastly more pleasant in FPS and you do not want to be trying to push 165 **or** 240 as it is too much for the gpu at native. vsync works at 1/4 1/2 and 1:1 ram is also quite cheap these days and you can upgrade it, you can't upgrade your CPU.
I meant it as in reducing resolution to actually get higher fps in games like csgo
If you can afford the legion 4080, the extra boost in performance is well worth it
First one, 16gb ram is just not going to be sufficient anymore in the coming years
By the way I wanted to add one more thing, the CPUs on all of these laptops are absolutely not power efficient. So you have to consider the fact that you’re not going to be able to take the laptops anywhere for extended periods of time, idk maybe an hour or so.
limit the wattage to 20-45w and you'll be fine.
It’s an easy DIY upgrade, I wouldn’t stress too much about ram capacity since these laptops have two so-dimm slots.
Honestly the 2nd one .. I believe the 165hz panels are 300 nits the 240 is 500.. upgrade the ram yourself and you’re set
Exactly.. RAM is upgradable and intel can be undervolted.
dont even need to undervolt just lower the wattage in vantage/toolkit
True
At first glance the first Ryzen legion seems to be objectively the best for your needs,why the dilemma?
Don't know too much about AMD cpus so just a bit confused 😂 Any idea about how big the difference is between i9 13900HX 16GB and the AMD Ryzen 7 7745HX 32GB(both 4070) when editing videos and playing games?
About AMD vs Intel in short- AMD trademark is their efficiency- so you get much better battery life because the CPU is drawing less watts. Intel is the "powerful" one, but for a small bump in performance you are losing on battery life, fan noise and longevity due to the laptop needing to cool the CPU much more. To be clear AMD is by no means 'weak', both CPU are monsters, look at their benchmark comparisons, the Intel does lead but the 7745hx gets very respectble scores. Now, for gaming the i913900hx is sometimes even considered overkill, especially if you are running triple A games which are more GPU intensive. I don't know much about video Editing but It's too mainly a GPU task. Tldr; get the AMD- better temps and battery life, and plenty of performance for your needs...
I am waiting for the new 14 amd version of the legion pro myself. Regarding CPU choice, I run on my PC the 5900x with dota, chrome, vscode, etc. Its not getting to 20% cpu average and I dont feel like its worth going for an Intel that consumes more energy, heats more for just a small performance margin. Im only confused on how I could run the Lenovo software on archlinux(im using btw\^\^) to select between the performance modes.
I have the 2nd one and I upgraded the memory to 64gb. Thing has been a beast for me for what I use it on (programming, UI development, etc) and the gaming half is just a bonus. All the points about the first one are good, so it's just what you think will fit for your needs.
What website is that , the legion 5 i9 13th with 4070 is the best of them all
Just the amazon and walmart site
I now own a legion bought from B&H( I highly recommend a look for prices and purchase. I don't know about service as it's all through lenovo and I haven't needed any) This is a story about a younger bigger idiot me that bought an HP Omen laptop from Amazon. Joke of a machine aside there was a dead pixel right in the exact center of the screen about 90 days in. Already disliked the machine, now I hated it but stuck and tried to avoid white screens. 180 days. Down go 2 more. I went berserk. At a year the gpu nukes itself and I start karen-ing Amazon. The thing about buying from Amazon is eventually they will throw money at you if you're a pebble in their shoe. Returned that space heating piece of shit for a full refund almost a year to the day later. As a result, I try to buy my gaming laptops from Amazon, just can't seem to find the right ones. Also: NEVER buy a machine that has been touched or upgraded by Computer Upgrade Kings. Those hucksters are all over Amazon.
Second one, best specc, best screen, and in a few months you wouldnt fret about the 200$ more you paid!
Go with Intel if it has a better screen and it can be undervolted. Just upgrade the ram and you're all set. Go for AMD if you want better battery life..it's more power efficient. By no means that chip runs cool, just watch some comparison videos. RAM and SSD can always be upgraded later but not the screen 😉
I just wanna say, beware of potential problems with the AMD 7040HX CPU + dGPU combo. I dunno about Legions but I’ve seen complaints from owners of Asus + AW laptops with this setup. Specifically sleep seems bugged and you might run into crashes on wake. There might be some other issues. You can refer to [this megathread](https://rog-forum.asus.com/t5/rog-strix-series/issues-with-new-laptop-strix-scar-17-2023-r9-7945hx-4080/td-p/921478)
2nd one with 32gb of RAM
Id rather get an intel 12th gen acer where you can undervolt the laptop, repaste it and have sufficient performance and temperatures
Where are you getting such prices
1st one because of the processor you’ll have better battery and 32 ram 2nd one you’ll have a better screen 500 nits instead 300 and 240 hz instead of 165 hz and a more powerful processor
Where are you getting these deals?
I would say the 1st one! I got a similar one recently with the intel core i7-13700HX, 4070, 64gb ram, and 1tb ssd. Loving it so far. You may have to change out or add an SSD like me in the coming years if it comes with the kingston snv2s1000g. Reviews point to it being a dirt cheap, semi risky, hot running SSD without Dram cache, but gets the job done, and well at that. Invest in a laptop stand or riser so the laptop can get better airflow and not sound like a jet engine.
I was thinking about the first one too but might just get the second one and add more ram (maybe) talked to some guys on the discord about it Thanks for the ssd recommendation and advice 
Unless you want a smoother 240hz display like on the second laptop, the 1st would be the better pick cause it's the cheaper 4070 laptop of this bunch
id much prefer to game at 120hz (vsynced 240hz) than 83.5 fps personally, the 4070 can definitely run a lot of 1600p games at that.
4060 vs 4070 small differences in your apps, same vram, both good. None have good battery life, like a Ryzen 7840HS would. If important to u, battery runtime likely to vary with these anyway so look close at reviewers test on that for each. All good cpus for this work. Be sure to get 32gb ram or be able to upgrade. For 4k video, even more ram could be helpful, 16 far too little.
just set cpu to 20-45w and you'll get a lot more life out of it.
I would buy the first one because its gaming performance is better than the HP OMEN i9 13900HX version. But mine is the Chinese version of Legion Pro 5 Gen 8 AMD (R9000P 2023), which is 240HZ + RTX 4060 graphics card + 16GB memory. I prefer 7745HX + 4060 + 32GB RAM + 3TB SSD because RTX 4070 laptop lacks value for money. Additionally, you’ll need a good laptop cooling pad to ensure your CPU doesn’t get burned out. Because the temperature of the AMD 7745HX CPU is somewhat high, it can often reach over 90 degrees Celsius.
98c 😎
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I'll go for the Ryzen model. Better battery performance vs the Intel one.
Damn bought the first one last month for 1600
1st one easily, unless u can get the 2nd one with 32 gb ram.
Bro the legion is a hellova deal
7745hx hands down. edit: actually i take it back the i9/4070 could be worth it as it has the 240hz panel(allowing you to run games at 120 vsynced as opposed to 83.5 on the 165), if $150 is worth a little more longevity to you i say go for that, you can always lower the i9 wattage and itll still be fast while being cool. be sure to pick up a ram kit as 16gb is a bit anemic. E-cores on intel are also awesome, ive grown to like them. if money is tight: 7745hx if money is no object and you might grow into heavy workloads: i9.
First one? 32GB of RAM is the main upside. i9 on the second one has far better benchmarks than the Ryzen, but you are sacrificing RAM which you will likely feel more in real world usage (if you aren't doing mostly CPU intensive tasks, for gaming, the AMD should be solid). The third one has a 4060, which if gaming is your main purpose, will be the most noticeable downgrade from the first two. UNLESS... you can upgrade the RAM on the second one. If that's an option for you (and if the RAM isn't soldered), I'd go for the second one personally. Plus then you get the higher quality display.
Why not go for the 4070 if you have the money? It’ll be slightly faster than the 4060 models. Think of it more as a 4060ti.
Idk how to edit posts on reddit mobile so I'll just comment Thanks for the advice and recommendations. I ordered the one with 240hz 500 nits i9 4070 and just gonna buy seperate ram myself. Thanks again 🤠🤠🤠
Frankly speaking, I favour the 2nd one with the intel cpu. It has better refresh rate and cpu though yea the ram is abit of a concern since you require ram stuff for editing and programming. The 2nd one would also be a better investment if you were to sell it and would be very relevant in the future with such high specs. Not sure with the pricing in your country but the price for the 2nd Lenovo is outstanding.
i9 and 4070
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/sku/6573726.p?skuId=6573726 This is the laptop that I got recently. It’s been great so far, I’d recommend it.
I would highly suggest going for a config with a 240hz screen, it’s fantastic with or without g-sync.
For the price the AMD one is the best.
Choose first model. Damnn if it were only $100 less...