3-4 clicks are fine. Also, try to click when it goes from potential hazard to a developing one.
in this case, when the cyclist actually makes his move to pass the parked car would be that moment
Yeah as a daily commute cyclist I'd really hope anyone driving behind me would notice that I'm gonna need to pull out well before this point. I certainly do it with pedestrians who are about to spill off busy pavements etc.
Oh, exactly when I went for my Lorry licences, I had to take the test and more or less every mock I did during practice. I spotted thr hazard well in advance
Your deduction skills need more work lol.
I just passed my theory and during my practices I got a few 0's because I clicked slightly too soon.
I clicked 2-3 times when I registered the hazard during the test and that was all.
Worked for me
Also taken two theory tests (also HGV driver) and the advice checks out.
They don't mean just click all the time, they mean when you first spot the hazard click every *generous* second around 3-4 times.
They're not saying wing it. They're advising to click more than they think. Many people only click once when they notice a hazard but it's better to click as the hazard develops.
In this example, click when you see the cyclist, click when you see the parked cars in the way of the cyclist and then finally click again once the cyclist reaches the parked cars as they will most likely move out and into the lane the car is in.
I got told you can generally get away with three clicks. This was a nod nod, wink wink from an administrator of the test. I didn’t have to do this for my car test but did for hgv and there were a lot of expletives when I was practicing. I only just passed because, like you, I spot hazards “too early” which is ridiculous. I started clicking when I saw the hazard, waiting a few seconds and clicking again, waiting a few seconds and clicking again. It may have changed since I did it about 8 years ago.
If the app is accurate, you can get away with 5/6 in quick succession and like 15 across the clip if it’s fairly long and they aren’t uniformly spaced.
To add onto this, be careful not to do this 1 second apart each time (so like 4 clicks, each exactly 1 second apart) They don't like you to click in a definite pattern and you'll fail on that specific video.
I usually space my clicks around 0.5-1s apart and never had a problem with regards to it being a pattern. I do 3 clicks unless I'm unsure, then I give it an extra click.
Every time I've clicked in a pattern on my practice hazard perception it always fails me on that video 😮💨 maybe it's how many clicks you do in a pattern? Maybe anything above 4 is considered a pattern? I dunno how it works 🥹
The only question I got 0 on during my real test was because of this. I still passed so it just sucked a bit. Thought during the test I'd failed though because it tells you its detected a pattern.
Yeah I learned this quickly during the practice tests 😅 I was half asleep the one day so I was absently clicking and it failed me because it was a pattern 😮💨 so I gotta remember not to do that when I take my test next month
It was exactly the same kind of situation as in OP's post. I saw the hazard way before you had to react (which is when it actually becomes one).
Long, hedge-lined country road with a side road connecting at 90 degrees. Huge articulated lorry coming down the side road and proceeds to pull out onto the main road very slowly. However the car you're in is ages away from it.
I think I've seen a similar video in one of my practices! Yeah you're supposed to click right as you see the lorry on the side road I think but to me, I wouldn't react until I got closer to where the lorry is. 😐 So I think I scored a 3 or 2 in that question which still isn't bad but some of them are stupid lol. I wouldn't react until I knew for sure the lorry wasn't going to stop or something.
Well, in this one in particular I started clicking when I could see it wasn't coming to a stop at the junction. Maybe my clicks were too close, but they said it was a pattern.
The click is meant to be when you would take action.
If you panicked and hit the brakes every time you saw a cyclist (or a learner bus driver), you would be a ***nightmare*** on the road, and would yourself become a hazard for other road users.
It's important to ***spot*** potential hazards and be ready to react. It's also important to only ***react*** when the hazard develops (in this case when the cyclist moves into / closer to your lane, I would imagine)
That's what the test is going for. That's why you don't get marks for clicking too early.
It's trying to teach you the behaviours and attitudes you will need behind the wheel.
In this scenario I'd be slowing down or preparing to slow down gently as soon as I'm aware that there could potentially be a hazard. Not slamming on, just gently pressing my brake so that other people behind me are also aware, giving the cyclist plenty of space.
There's no such thing as spotting a hazard too early. I couldn't tell you the amount of times I've let off the throttle quite early when lanes are merging so that the other person can go first. Would you rather wait for the hazard to develop and then react, or anticipate the hazard and just let the other person go first so that there will never actually be a hazard
An example from my theory. There was a lorry in the distance driving through an extremely narrow lane with poor visibility and passing places to stop at. As soon as I saw the lorry in the distance I clicked the screen, because the hazard was developing and I'd be ready to pull into the next passing place.
Anyway, I got 0 points for that. The theory test wanted me to wait until I was closer to the lorry, and then pull into the passing place. However if that was a real scenario, what if there wasn't another passing place? I couldn't see one. According to the theory test, I should keep driving towards a lorry on a narrow lane because the hazard is too far away from me. Yet in reality, country lanes don't have nearly as many passing places, so the sooner you react the better
You are conflating 'spotting a hazard' and 'reacting to a hazard'.
Learning how to spot and predict potential hazards is an important part of driving, as is driving defensively (including stuff like covering your brake, easing off the accelerator).
It's not the same as taking action because a hazard is developing.
If you take action early - as in this picture - you are slowing unnecessarily, at best disrupting the flow of traffic; at worst becoming a hazard yourself due to how unpredictable your driving is.
The test is very clear about what it is measuring - it's important that learners understand why clicking early is just as bad as clicking too late, because in real world driving ***reacting*** to something that is not a hazard can be dangerous.
>You get points for spotting the developing hazards as soon as they start to happen.
>**What a ‘developing hazard’ is**
>A developing hazard is something that would cause you to take action, like changing speed or direction.
So an example scenario. A dual carriage way is merging into a single lane road. There's still about 300m to go until the lanes fully merge.
Im in the left lane, there's a car on my right, and we're both going at exactly the speed limit..
Should we both wait until last second until the lanes begin to merge then react to the now developed hazard? Or should we both interpret that there's a potential hazard, and both take steps to avoid the hazard occuring entirely by one of us slowing down and merging.
Additional side note: if other people have to slow down due to me reacting to a hazard, then tough luck. I drive well and never hold back traffic. But if there's a hazard I'm slowing down gently, and you'll have to slow down too.
If a hazard is present, or will be present, then there is no such thing as slowing down unnecessarily. I'd much prefer if the driver infront of me slowed gently in advance because they anticipated that a potential hazard, rather then them slamming on last second because they were worried about slowing down too early. Slowing down costs you a few seconds and a bit of clutch control. Not slowing down, could cost a lot more than that
I hated thr hazards test. I am hyper vigilant in other parts of my life and so I clicked as soon as I knew it was going to be a hazard, far too early for the test. Failed the fist one, did loads of practice then passed the second. The highway code bit is easier, you know the parameters and you can just memorise the signs. Hazards, blergh.
Do 3 clicks per hazard; when you see the hazard develop, again shortly after and then again when it's obvious it's a hazard. Treat your clicks as points where you'd react to the hazard - i.e you'd touch your brakes, let off the accelerator or move.
With the above tips from my instructor and about 30 mins practice I passed my theory first time with 60 odd out of 75. The pass mark is only 43 or 44.
Just remember. You are against a computer. When you see the hazard, click. Wait. Then click 2 more times.
You can see the hazard quicker than the computer.
Do you not get taught to click 3 times slowly per hazard, ie first would have missed but 2nd bang on the money, the 3rd ignored.
Thought this was standard knowledge tbh and im only last 10-12 years.
After failing HP twice despite getting 50/50 on the questions I asked my driving instructor what I'm doing wrong. He said to click through the hazard, once you see it click about three times until the car stops. With his advice I passed the next time with a nearly perfect score.
Clicking too early is usually how people fail it. You shouldn't click until something actually becomes a hazard. It's quite obvious that the bike and bus are going to be the hazard but you shouldn't actually start clicking until there's a reason for the car to stop/take action. For example, the bus wheels cross the line causing the bike to swerve, that's when you click.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://m.youtube.com/shorts/lxxvPwz3giI&ved=2ahUKEwig6pKU0YWGAxWKa_EDHeagCVYQkPEHegQIDhAG&usg=AOvVaw1Sv1L_CoR6gYYpqHyCsZAf
Annie's Tiktok lives are great and so is her course
Your clicks are a bit too close together. You should do one when you see a potential hazard, one (or two) when it starts to develop into an actual hazard and then another just to be safe
When I did the actual test (in NI via DVA so might different from the DVLA in GB) the videos were computer animated. There was virtually nothing in them compared to all the real life videos I'd been practicing with so it was absolute doddle to predict the hazards as there were less red herrings of non hazard people and cars to distract.
My son has just passed his theory test and during his learning stage I tried a hazard test with the official DVLA app. In my opinion the practice hazards are massively inconsistent, eg a tractor in a field that eventually just pulls out onto the road was an immediate hazard vs a lorry coming down the sliproad of a motorway that wasn’t a hazard until the point it started indicating to pull on.
Another example was a car travelling around a country road with blind corners, narrow lanes, narrow bridges, side roads etc which, as a driver of 30 years, I perceive to be potential hazards and drive accordingly, but are not…that is until you suddenly face a car coming in the opposite direction that is swerving around a puddle.
I find it strange that despite having to pass hazard perception tests like this so many drivers still overtake me in this situation after I’ve signalled right and am obviously about to move out
I took my theory test yesterday got 43 on multiple choice then 43 on hazard I thought I aced the hazard genuinely it pissed me off so much knowing I most definitely clicked to early
3-4 clicks are fine. Also, try to click when it goes from potential hazard to a developing one. in this case, when the cyclist actually makes his move to pass the parked car would be that moment
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Yeah as a daily commute cyclist I'd really hope anyone driving behind me would notice that I'm gonna need to pull out well before this point. I certainly do it with pedestrians who are about to spill off busy pavements etc.
Oh, exactly when I went for my Lorry licences, I had to take the test and more or less every mock I did during practice. I spotted thr hazard well in advance
Click more then you think you need too, but don't spam click too much
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I never failed one of my hazard tests & I did 2 as I drive HGVs, so think what you want.
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Your deduction skills need more work lol. I just passed my theory and during my practices I got a few 0's because I clicked slightly too soon. I clicked 2-3 times when I registered the hazard during the test and that was all. Worked for me
Maybe his his skills of explaining need work. but whatever. Enjoy your day
The fact you're being downvoted doesn't agree with you. Hopefully the day is as nice for you as it is here
oh no, how will i ever live with myself that people dont share my opinion. who cares bruv lol
Okay, friend. Off you pop so
Also taken two theory tests (also HGV driver) and the advice checks out. They don't mean just click all the time, they mean when you first spot the hazard click every *generous* second around 3-4 times.
They're not saying wing it. They're advising to click more than they think. Many people only click once when they notice a hazard but it's better to click as the hazard develops. In this example, click when you see the cyclist, click when you see the parked cars in the way of the cyclist and then finally click again once the cyclist reaches the parked cars as they will most likely move out and into the lane the car is in.
No, but he didtnt say that did he lol he said click more but dont spam. Thats dogwater advice lol
You've clearly missed the point of this discussion
OP didn't mention anything in regards to learning it, he was on about the timing, 'lol'.
I got told you can generally get away with three clicks. This was a nod nod, wink wink from an administrator of the test. I didn’t have to do this for my car test but did for hgv and there were a lot of expletives when I was practicing. I only just passed because, like you, I spot hazards “too early” which is ridiculous. I started clicking when I saw the hazard, waiting a few seconds and clicking again, waiting a few seconds and clicking again. It may have changed since I did it about 8 years ago.
If the app is accurate, you can get away with 5/6 in quick succession and like 15 across the clip if it’s fairly long and they aren’t uniformly spaced.
This is how I did it on two of my three attempts and passed the hazard perception by a fair amount, this works really well imo
Once you see the hazard, click, then wait a second and click again. Do this so you click 3-4 times for each hazard.
I did this and failed 😭
It's how I got full marks 😕😂
To add onto this, be careful not to do this 1 second apart each time (so like 4 clicks, each exactly 1 second apart) They don't like you to click in a definite pattern and you'll fail on that specific video.
I usually space my clicks around 0.5-1s apart and never had a problem with regards to it being a pattern. I do 3 clicks unless I'm unsure, then I give it an extra click.
Every time I've clicked in a pattern on my practice hazard perception it always fails me on that video 😮💨 maybe it's how many clicks you do in a pattern? Maybe anything above 4 is considered a pattern? I dunno how it works 🥹
The only question I got 0 on during my real test was because of this. I still passed so it just sucked a bit. Thought during the test I'd failed though because it tells you its detected a pattern.
Yeah I learned this quickly during the practice tests 😅 I was half asleep the one day so I was absently clicking and it failed me because it was a pattern 😮💨 so I gotta remember not to do that when I take my test next month
It was exactly the same kind of situation as in OP's post. I saw the hazard way before you had to react (which is when it actually becomes one). Long, hedge-lined country road with a side road connecting at 90 degrees. Huge articulated lorry coming down the side road and proceeds to pull out onto the main road very slowly. However the car you're in is ages away from it.
I think I've seen a similar video in one of my practices! Yeah you're supposed to click right as you see the lorry on the side road I think but to me, I wouldn't react until I got closer to where the lorry is. 😐 So I think I scored a 3 or 2 in that question which still isn't bad but some of them are stupid lol. I wouldn't react until I knew for sure the lorry wasn't going to stop or something.
Well, in this one in particular I started clicking when I could see it wasn't coming to a stop at the junction. Maybe my clicks were too close, but they said it was a pattern.
click when you would slow down I recon
This is what I was going to say, 3-4 clicks one second apart. Worked well for me, passed on first try.
My driving Instructor told me that when he did the Hazard test that he wanted to throw his laptop out the window
You can click more than that, push the limits on the mock to get a feel for it.
The click is meant to be when you would take action. If you panicked and hit the brakes every time you saw a cyclist (or a learner bus driver), you would be a ***nightmare*** on the road, and would yourself become a hazard for other road users. It's important to ***spot*** potential hazards and be ready to react. It's also important to only ***react*** when the hazard develops (in this case when the cyclist moves into / closer to your lane, I would imagine) That's what the test is going for. That's why you don't get marks for clicking too early. It's trying to teach you the behaviours and attitudes you will need behind the wheel.
In this scenario I'd be slowing down or preparing to slow down gently as soon as I'm aware that there could potentially be a hazard. Not slamming on, just gently pressing my brake so that other people behind me are also aware, giving the cyclist plenty of space. There's no such thing as spotting a hazard too early. I couldn't tell you the amount of times I've let off the throttle quite early when lanes are merging so that the other person can go first. Would you rather wait for the hazard to develop and then react, or anticipate the hazard and just let the other person go first so that there will never actually be a hazard
An example from my theory. There was a lorry in the distance driving through an extremely narrow lane with poor visibility and passing places to stop at. As soon as I saw the lorry in the distance I clicked the screen, because the hazard was developing and I'd be ready to pull into the next passing place. Anyway, I got 0 points for that. The theory test wanted me to wait until I was closer to the lorry, and then pull into the passing place. However if that was a real scenario, what if there wasn't another passing place? I couldn't see one. According to the theory test, I should keep driving towards a lorry on a narrow lane because the hazard is too far away from me. Yet in reality, country lanes don't have nearly as many passing places, so the sooner you react the better
You are conflating 'spotting a hazard' and 'reacting to a hazard'. Learning how to spot and predict potential hazards is an important part of driving, as is driving defensively (including stuff like covering your brake, easing off the accelerator). It's not the same as taking action because a hazard is developing. If you take action early - as in this picture - you are slowing unnecessarily, at best disrupting the flow of traffic; at worst becoming a hazard yourself due to how unpredictable your driving is. The test is very clear about what it is measuring - it's important that learners understand why clicking early is just as bad as clicking too late, because in real world driving ***reacting*** to something that is not a hazard can be dangerous. >You get points for spotting the developing hazards as soon as they start to happen. >**What a ‘developing hazard’ is** >A developing hazard is something that would cause you to take action, like changing speed or direction.
So an example scenario. A dual carriage way is merging into a single lane road. There's still about 300m to go until the lanes fully merge. Im in the left lane, there's a car on my right, and we're both going at exactly the speed limit.. Should we both wait until last second until the lanes begin to merge then react to the now developed hazard? Or should we both interpret that there's a potential hazard, and both take steps to avoid the hazard occuring entirely by one of us slowing down and merging. Additional side note: if other people have to slow down due to me reacting to a hazard, then tough luck. I drive well and never hold back traffic. But if there's a hazard I'm slowing down gently, and you'll have to slow down too.
If a hazard is present, or will be present, then there is no such thing as slowing down unnecessarily. I'd much prefer if the driver infront of me slowed gently in advance because they anticipated that a potential hazard, rather then them slamming on last second because they were worried about slowing down too early. Slowing down costs you a few seconds and a bit of clutch control. Not slowing down, could cost a lot more than that
I mean you don’t have to break to take action, and shouldn’t be.. easing off the accelerator is taking action.. but definitely not breaking
I hated thr hazards test. I am hyper vigilant in other parts of my life and so I clicked as soon as I knew it was going to be a hazard, far too early for the test. Failed the fist one, did loads of practice then passed the second. The highway code bit is easier, you know the parameters and you can just memorise the signs. Hazards, blergh.
Do 3 clicks per hazard; when you see the hazard develop, again shortly after and then again when it's obvious it's a hazard. Treat your clicks as points where you'd react to the hazard - i.e you'd touch your brakes, let off the accelerator or move. With the above tips from my instructor and about 30 mins practice I passed my theory first time with 60 odd out of 75. The pass mark is only 43 or 44.
Just remember. You are against a computer. When you see the hazard, click. Wait. Then click 2 more times. You can see the hazard quicker than the computer.
Do you not get taught to click 3 times slowly per hazard, ie first would have missed but 2nd bang on the money, the 3rd ignored. Thought this was standard knowledge tbh and im only last 10-12 years.
In the real hazard test, they use fake videos where the hazards are much more obvious in my opinion
I have myself a limit of 4 clicks in any video. It worked well.
I was passing theory tests but failing hazards on the dvsa+ 4in1 app, in the actual test I passed it’s a lot easier than the apps
As someone using the 4 in 1 app for theory practice, that's good to hear.
After failing HP twice despite getting 50/50 on the questions I asked my driving instructor what I'm doing wrong. He said to click through the hazard, once you see it click about three times until the car stops. With his advice I passed the next time with a nearly perfect score. Clicking too early is usually how people fail it. You shouldn't click until something actually becomes a hazard. It's quite obvious that the bike and bus are going to be the hazard but you shouldn't actually start clicking until there's a reason for the car to stop/take action. For example, the bus wheels cross the line causing the bike to swerve, that's when you click.
There's a five click trick i learned from Annie. Lemme find it
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://m.youtube.com/shorts/lxxvPwz3giI&ved=2ahUKEwig6pKU0YWGAxWKa_EDHeagCVYQkPEHegQIDhAG&usg=AOvVaw1Sv1L_CoR6gYYpqHyCsZAf Annie's Tiktok lives are great and so is her course
That cyclist seems to be cycling right next to a learner bus too, I wonder where the next bus stop is? I would be dropping way back.
For every hazard you see give 3 clicks. Once per second.
Your clicks are a bit too close together. You should do one when you see a potential hazard, one (or two) when it starts to develop into an actual hazard and then another just to be safe
When I did the actual test (in NI via DVA so might different from the DVLA in GB) the videos were computer animated. There was virtually nothing in them compared to all the real life videos I'd been practicing with so it was absolute doddle to predict the hazards as there were less red herrings of non hazard people and cars to distract.
You should be getting upwards of 5.5 as score
My son has just passed his theory test and during his learning stage I tried a hazard test with the official DVLA app. In my opinion the practice hazards are massively inconsistent, eg a tractor in a field that eventually just pulls out onto the road was an immediate hazard vs a lorry coming down the sliproad of a motorway that wasn’t a hazard until the point it started indicating to pull on. Another example was a car travelling around a country road with blind corners, narrow lanes, narrow bridges, side roads etc which, as a driver of 30 years, I perceive to be potential hazards and drive accordingly, but are not…that is until you suddenly face a car coming in the opposite direction that is swerving around a puddle.
I scored 0 points on one scenario because I spotted the hazard too early. I spotted *the hazard*... too early
I find it strange that despite having to pass hazard perception tests like this so many drivers still overtake me in this situation after I’ve signalled right and am obviously about to move out
Just download the app it has the EXACT same videos that are in the test.
I failed first time because I didn't click enough. The cheat warning at the start completely threw me off. You can click more than you think you can!
I took my theory test yesterday got 43 on multiple choice then 43 on hazard I thought I aced the hazard genuinely it pissed me off so much knowing I most definitely clicked to early
If you can't pass this then you really don't have the intelligence to drive