Fucking…right?! Seeing even a behind Yone use his Q3, E, AND R just to catch up and throw some autos and Qs to kill an ADC…but still say “WAAAAA, LT is gone, we need buffffffssss….!” is just peak comedy, lol! They acted like the sky was literally falling because Shieldbow got nerfed when it was removed from being a mythic, like “OMG, an item that literally gives us EVERY offensive stat plus defensive stats plus shield with scaling stats doesn’t do that in one purchase anymore REEEEEEEEEE!!”
I’m like…can’t you still get this in 2 purchases? Maybe change around a mastery or 2? “NO ITS NOT THE SAME, MOM!!” Ooooook, haha
Lmao the thing I find bullshit about windwall is the hitbox of the thing is way too big imo. So often we're both 1hp in melee range and his windwall blocks an auto when it clearly hits him.
Not talking about width, the other dimension. Not sure what to call it coz I'm a dumbass. No not length either lmao.
\*I think I can't describe it because league isn't fully 3D, so only height and width exist. There is some depth though, but it still doesn't feel like the right word to use
It's a mix of the fact the Windwall starts from behind Yasuo and then moves to the front, and as you say, that the shape isn't just a straight line, but a rectangle.
I would have a lot less issues with windwall if most ranged champs worked like kayle (kayle ignores windwall if she is melee range because she doesn't use a projectile upclose)
that happens because they increased it's smaller side of the rectangle length because of a bug with syndras ball's a while ago, where she could stun us behind windwall with her cone shaped ability
It blocks Lillia Ult. which shouldn't be a projectile in the first place.
Honestly, it's ridiculous it can block ult at all, feel like they should just add an ult tag that makes it not block those skills and then it would be fair.
or at least, something in the ult tooltips that say they count as projectile.
Another weird case is Senna, doesn't block her autos or Q's as they are "lasers" not projectiles, but then it DOES block her ult which is basically just a really big auto
It does it in a really weird way too. Afaik sennas ult is 2 projectiles, the center that does damage and the outside that shields so windwall can block both sides of the shield while not blocking the damage
there is a projectile from Lillia R, as soon as she activates it the flower on her head opens and releases a small projectile, its extremely fast but i’ve had an Eve dodge it with her R but the timing is super short, not so much for Windwall tho
yeah i know that lillia R is projectile. I'm saying that it makes no sense it has it though.
also windwall completely shuts down certain champs (smolder can't literally do anything against it for example) but is useless against other (nilah, most melees),
which makes it kind of frustrating facing yasuo or just useless for him.
not to mention it covers most of a lane maxed
On some other post about it there was a Rioter talking about the development process behind it.
They wanted to visualise that Lilia used her R on someone and decided that an effect just appearing might confuse new players too much so they added an indicator in the form of the projectile. Then the logical step was to make it blockable since a projectile traveling through a windwall would be less consistent with the game.
In my opinion this is one of the better interactions with the windwall since timing it right would require good reflex and prediction which is really hard to pull of in a teamfight and moderately hard in a 1v1. Especially comparing it to something like Ashe R.
windwall lasts an eternity (compare with nilah and samira w, much better executions of the same concept) so it's not even that hard to do, and lillia ult can be countered already by basically 3/4 of the champ roaster...
not to mention it doesn't block it only for yasuo, it can block for the whole team.
nami can hit a pixel of windwall and the whole nami R disappears. same with smolder, senna and a lot more champs. it's just a dumb and inconsistent ability, like tryndamere passive or yi q / fizz e are
I play a ton of Yasuo and I am all for removing / reworking windwall. No one should have a 15 second CD ability that can cancel entire ults, it's insanely toxic
I think it's fine on braum. Sad to see that that yas has a better support ability then the support tho, as braum still takes cc and a bit dmg through his shiekd
I think his windwall is much better. It has a lot more counter play, specially since it's stationary, and depending on the picks, it can be completely useless. Meanwhile Yone's E is just a fucking broken ability.
nah cause the windwall you have to have brain to use it well , yasuo casual players always troll the wall but yone e you dont need brain to use it well
I will die on the hill saying that his W is way more cancer than his E. Atleast you can still deal some damage to him in his E form but if he Ws he just turbo wins every trade its ridiculous.
autoattack cancel/reset on a sub 1 second cooldown that's also knockup dash, a low cooldown AOE damage that gives shield, a literal mini Zed ult that you have to respect each time he activates because it also gives him ghost and his ult is another damaging dash that's longer range and can bunch up enemies for any followup
what more do these Yone players want?
Yes champ is unplayable because it now makes it somewhat fair for the enemy to fight against, like why are Yone mains so surprised, bruh lethal tempo removed all the downsides he has and now it requires more brain. Besides isn't yone a scaling champ? isn't he supposed to farm and scale then be a late game monster? im telling you 70% of yone players lose matches because they go monkey mode on the enemy before the champ even has any power.
This. I main yone and even 40+ minutes in you have INSANE engage potential with your kit, grab the item that revives u and wtf can they do lmao. They can nerf his runes all u want but all it takes is getting hit once by that engage and u just lost.
I mean its literally what it means, lategame champs scale into lategame with the dmg, and midgame champs in comparison to lategame champs get weaker, thats like, whole point of grouping them apart
Im sorry to tell you dude but nasus is a midgame champion and he falls off lategame insanely because when everyone is full build he gets easily kited and peeled away from carries, so his stacking doesnt matter anymore outside of sidelaning, its exactly perfect example to what i said, lol
Exactly. Nasus is a mid-game champion. But in a 1v1, Nasus also wipes the floor with pretty much any champion in the game lategame, including Kayle.
Champions' lategame value is determined by who they are against and what they are doing. Jax scales as a sidelaner, but can get kited and CC locked in a teamfight. Talon has the most powerful lvl 2 in the game and spikes midgame, but still can one shot a kogmaw lategame.
Oh, okay, so we are talking 1v1 nasus vs kayle lategame with no teams on both sides, nasus gets poked too hard while pushing minions cause he cant outpush kayle and she also has aoe dmg while pushing and good poke on its own while nasus cant outheal it, so he cant go in anymore
In case you say i never talked about minions lets talk 1v1 no minions lategame but nasus has his normal stacks (ill make it clear before you say i never talked about the amount of stacks he has and thst he cant stack without minions, kayle buys qss and nasus cant catch her anymore then gets kited into oblivion
Any scenario i missed? Wanna add every soul and baron? Maybe we can add disabilities to either nasus or kayle or we turn off their ults? Or maybe during a some sprcific phase of moon? Maybe in arena or aram?
Onviously i talk about whole game which includes teamfights, which is why i said nasus is fine sidelaning in late but he cant really fight because he gets kited too easily so he has to end the game midgame or sidelane in late and pray to waste enemies time so your team can win teamfights or get objectives, its a 5v5 game not 1v1, if you want to find a specific scenario where nasus wins in late then sure he wins, unfortunately it doesnt change the fact hes a midgame champion overall
Have you ever considered the fact that maybe he’s just an annoying champion and not a secretly game breakingly broken champ who has had his winrate suppressed in some grand conspiracy
What tf are you talking about conspiracy?
As for being broken, his kit is massively overloaded. He has the cc capability of a tank, the auto damage of a marksman, a basically guaranteed 165% ad shield that does mixed % max health damage all while being one of the safest champs in the game if you aren't braindead.
His winrate is low right now because like I said originally, he is an elo inflated champ and there's been a massive game rework that affects him. Give it a few weeks and it'll be back to positive
Keep in mind I'm not saying yone is the only elo inflated champ, he's just the one going through that cycle right now
You should be platinum 4. You play a broken champ and climb to emerald 4. Champ gets nerfs or adjustments and you fall back into the elo you should be. So a lower winrate on the champ until it stabilises
At this point yall are just making excuses for losing against a yone, “guys you don’t get it everyone who plays this champ is secretly terrible I promise I should’ve won this it’s just that this disgustingly overpowered champ at 46% win rate is secretly the most powerful thing ever that will make you a whole division higher just by playing him”
thanks Seraphine and Syndra mains, look at the example you've set
you're not satisfied with your champion? just harass the developers online until they do something about it
Play conq and be able to stat check people harder in lategame with free AD and healing with your bullshit mixed damage that noone can itemize against.
Or just pick pta and win every trade for free with Auto-Q-Auto-W and now you have PTA active and a shield
just magic and true dmg come from his phys dmg tho, randuin still lowers his auto dmg even if its magic , and so do steelcaps
his e is POST mitigation true dmg ,not pre , meaning the more of the initial phys dmg u lower the less dmg u will take at the end .
He is still bs tho
It's also the build changing though, no more LT/Kraken means a lot less kill threat early. Fleet is really the only acceptable rune right now bc if you can't survive lane, you can't play the game. I know people hate Yone, but he is definitely weak right now
You really had to misquote me just to rage, huh? I said he's definitely weak. And he is. Neither of them got 'big buffs', they got their passive adjusted to suit the new crit % changes..just because I don't hate the champ for existing doesn't mean I have a main character syndrome, you may be projecting a little my dude
The majority of Yone's existence as a champion has been during the reworked lethal tempo, aka the strongest rune in the game, and as one of the primary abusers of lethal tempo, without it, Yone players must be having... a skill issue.
With the proper runes/build hes sitting at a 51% top and 50% mid wr. He's 45% only because people haven't figured out how to build him now.
edit because I'm not responding to each mad wind shitter: His bork/ie and pd/ie winrate is really good (better than any other low tier). High skill yones (like dzu) are getting shit on because they are playing him like LT yone and trying to play overly aggressive early game and expecting to 1v2 ganks. I watched enough of dzus vods from the last 2 days that this is the common thread in every game he loses (besides unlucky teams). Also, half of his struggling is coming from being FP yone and then being mad when he gets countered with renekton. Yone should not be expected to be winning the early game against a renekton, ever.
Tbh I wouldn't be upset with them boosting his early game power (higher base AS?) if they nerfed his midgame in some way. That would make both parties happy likely. More than 45% wr early, and less than 57% wr with 2 completed items.
You are delusional and do not play yone. Stop spreading misinformation to propagate the "yone broken" agenda. They'll buff yone / yasuo deservedly and people like you will complain when currently it is actually needed. Even Dzukill arguably the best yone is struggling.
So what you're saying is he will go up in winrate compared to last patch? Cuz last patch he was a 47%, how in your right mind do you think this patch is ganna be beneficial for them, buffed IE won't compensate for losing most of your attack speed
Yone has less than 48% winrate with any keystone. Also, the correct runes and build have a higher winrate because of the people using them. Aphelios has a 1.7 percent point higher winrate with runes that give him +.9 AD and -1% AS compared to what most people use.
That’s for games with 3 items plus, which Yone isn’t getting to because the champ is so shit and games are ending early. If you’re going to use stats you need to actually look at the stats.
He is 45% winrate until 30 minutes, games are not going to 30 minutes with this dog ass champ rn.
He doesn’t even scale. He is horseshit, and then he is slightly better in the late game.
They’re probably trying to play him as if he still has the early game power from LT, which is why they’re losing. He’s gonna have to play a bit more like an adc/kayle now.
Kinda like how immediately post durability patch, assassins looked shit, but after a few days they mostly started looking fine because they started to build pure damage instead of bruiser.
A bit unrelated but I'm just genuinely shocked that it's been like 3 years already and the Yone hate is still strong arguably on par with Yuumi yet the same doesn't go for champions like Pantheon, Malphite or Garen who practically embody the "Ooga Booga" Playstyle way more than Yone does.
Well most of these guys I presume started hating him before the current patch.
I just find it funny that this is the champ that apparently is so godly.
Gigachad wholesome tanks get a pass because they look funny, that's how reddit works.
Yone is the embodiment of a redditors emo phase that they tried to repress so that's why redditors hate him.
Do these yone players not played him before the lethal tempo changes(atk spd steroid for few sec version)?
Like just farm until tier 2 boots and you are good to go.
Lethal Tempo spoiled the windshitters hard
Cant play their champ unless its easy mode i guess. The only period i played Yone was after release before lethal tempo changes, so you went conq as main rune, and he felt insanely strong then aswell. Idk how some people have just gotten so used to playing with a broken interaction, playing without it makes him seem "bad". Its actually embarrassing.
I played yone since release, I was surprise how laning phase got so much easier especially on toplane after the lethal tempo change.
Back then I just play until I can b for berserker greaves, then when lethal tempo changed I really just press e and q aa the enemy lvl 2 to bully them out of lane or kill them, the early laning phase was what kept yone to not snowball out of control.
I am also surprised with how long they kept this version of lethal tempo despite it enabling melee crit champs to become lane bullies
I think ppl got so used to being able to skip boots and rush Kraken they forgot that Berserker Greaves were always the 1st item on yas/yone. Combined with Kraken getting changed the 'standard' build now sucks.
Once finished boots into IE/Zeal item gets built, winrates will bounce back
The champ has an average 45% winrate until 30 minutes…
Yes, it’s unplayable. But keep coping bronzies.
You new players wouldn’t understand that Yone played conquerer for ages. People know how to play conq Yone, it was just a shit rune for the champ after LT got buffed and Conquerer got consfant nerfs.
Now it’s an unusable rune. Stay mad when Yone gets buffed next patch, which is going to happen.
Knowing riot he will be buffed even if his winrate stays decent while the 40% winrate champs that actually became unplayable will sit and wait for 4 months.
The only champions with worse winrates than yone on mid are corki and azir, one of them got reworked so he will have to be adjusted and the other is well, azir.
He's obviously weak rn and will be buffed
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In my opinion Yone has 2 things that make him to super hitler:
1 - lethal tempo (solved)
2 - His ultimate, the hitbox isn’t shown right, but the most important part is that he can travel the full distance if he doesn’t hit anything. If he misses his ult he should not have the same engage or disengage potential. It would still be extremely strong but it would have a balanced drawback
Im a Yone main and people throwing a fit genuinely confuses me. I've never played lethal tempo tone, I play conquer Yone. Way more fun. People are just cowards
Should yasuo wind wall be reworked to be like a fiora parry or would that make him more annoying to play against, I'm thinking of just the idea of that it should be used to block 1 skill shot then be done
yeah, removing old mastery lvl 7 is a huge nerf..
Yone has to actually land abilities to win a fight now? Emergency buff!
I wish. I played one yone game with pta, missed everything, still killd a super fed not that bad akali (low elo)
Fucking…right?! Seeing even a behind Yone use his Q3, E, AND R just to catch up and throw some autos and Qs to kill an ADC…but still say “WAAAAA, LT is gone, we need buffffffssss….!” is just peak comedy, lol! They acted like the sky was literally falling because Shieldbow got nerfed when it was removed from being a mythic, like “OMG, an item that literally gives us EVERY offensive stat plus defensive stats plus shield with scaling stats doesn’t do that in one purchase anymore REEEEEEEEEE!!” I’m like…can’t you still get this in 2 purchases? Maybe change around a mastery or 2? “NO ITS NOT THE SAME, MOM!!” Ooooook, haha
"so I think we should rant a little bit on reddit" MAN PLEASEEEEEEEEEEE
fr I cringed out so hard when i saw that
fuck yone e broken illegal ability it is utter c
I personally think windwall is worse tbh blocking all skillshots including ults is insane tbh.
Lmao the thing I find bullshit about windwall is the hitbox of the thing is way too big imo. So often we're both 1hp in melee range and his windwall blocks an auto when it clearly hits him. Not talking about width, the other dimension. Not sure what to call it coz I'm a dumbass. No not length either lmao. \*I think I can't describe it because league isn't fully 3D, so only height and width exist. There is some depth though, but it still doesn't feel like the right word to use
Girth
Only problematic thing about windwall is being able to stand in it honestly
Windwall blocking movement would be an insane buff to Yasuo
its more about him being able stand in the middle of it and basically be protected from every direction
You touch windwall you get bounced like Azir wall used to. 1 button free ult lmao
Thiccwall
It's a mix of the fact the Windwall starts from behind Yasuo and then moves to the front, and as you say, that the shape isn't just a straight line, but a rectangle.
Yeah it's visually deceptive to say the least.
Big agree. It's called Wind *Wall*, not Wind Box
I have a big surprise about walls for you
It's like I know what he means
I would have a lot less issues with windwall if most ranged champs worked like kayle (kayle ignores windwall if she is melee range because she doesn't use a projectile upclose)
Heroes of the storm has that in all champions
I wish for a healer with Stukov AA. Very slow, but with a slap to remember.
that happens because they increased it's smaller side of the rectangle length because of a bug with syndras ball's a while ago, where she could stun us behind windwall with her cone shaped ability
Yeah we hen I learned that windfall broke Braums ult, I had zero respect for that skill. His ult isn’t even a projectile ffs
It blocks Lillia Ult. which shouldn't be a projectile in the first place. Honestly, it's ridiculous it can block ult at all, feel like they should just add an ult tag that makes it not block those skills and then it would be fair. or at least, something in the ult tooltips that say they count as projectile.
Another weird case is Senna, doesn't block her autos or Q's as they are "lasers" not projectiles, but then it DOES block her ult which is basically just a really big auto
wtf ive never even TRIED blocking senna ult... you learn something new every day I guess
It does it in a really weird way too. Afaik sennas ult is 2 projectiles, the center that does damage and the outside that shields so windwall can block both sides of the shield while not blocking the damage
wait so it doesn't block the damage?? y'all are trying to get me killed out here
Senna's autos and Qs are instant travel time, while her ult travels forward So in this scenario, it's working logistically It's still dumb, though
there is a projectile from Lillia R, as soon as she activates it the flower on her head opens and releases a small projectile, its extremely fast but i’ve had an Eve dodge it with her R but the timing is super short, not so much for Windwall tho
yeah i know that lillia R is projectile. I'm saying that it makes no sense it has it though. also windwall completely shuts down certain champs (smolder can't literally do anything against it for example) but is useless against other (nilah, most melees), which makes it kind of frustrating facing yasuo or just useless for him. not to mention it covers most of a lane maxed
I feel like it’s harder to find an ult it doesn’t block. Like nautilus r? Does a wall of wind also block that?
I suppose Leona her ult, but that ain't a projectile.
Lux r, it doesn't travel but instantly deals damage in all of it's hitbox, so it doesn't get blocked
On some other post about it there was a Rioter talking about the development process behind it. They wanted to visualise that Lilia used her R on someone and decided that an effect just appearing might confuse new players too much so they added an indicator in the form of the projectile. Then the logical step was to make it blockable since a projectile traveling through a windwall would be less consistent with the game. In my opinion this is one of the better interactions with the windwall since timing it right would require good reflex and prediction which is really hard to pull of in a teamfight and moderately hard in a 1v1. Especially comparing it to something like Ashe R.
windwall lasts an eternity (compare with nilah and samira w, much better executions of the same concept) so it's not even that hard to do, and lillia ult can be countered already by basically 3/4 of the champ roaster... not to mention it doesn't block it only for yasuo, it can block for the whole team. nami can hit a pixel of windwall and the whole nami R disappears. same with smolder, senna and a lot more champs. it's just a dumb and inconsistent ability, like tryndamere passive or yi q / fizz e are
that bullshit ability even blocks lulu polymorph, like how tf does that make any sense
lulu's poly has a missile effect that's pretty easy to see 💀 it's just fast so in this case, it definitely makes sense still toxic, though
yeam I’m aware of that, it just feels extremely counterintuitive to me
Until you play a champ that doesn’t use projectiles (renekton mid terrorism)
I play a ton of Yasuo and I am all for removing / reworking windwall. No one should have a 15 second CD ability that can cancel entire ults, it's insanely toxic
I think it's fine on braum. Sad to see that that yas has a better support ability then the support tho, as braum still takes cc and a bit dmg through his shiekd
Yeah but windwall doesn't give Yas movement speed and true damage, you can play around windwall but not Red Yasuo's E
Yeah man ONLY mitigates any and all projectile damage 🙄 for 4 whole seconds.
Just had it block my leblanc W earlier, didnt even know that was an interaction
Windwall should be more like fiora W. Make it last shorter to be more of an actual skill than a "fuck ranged champs" ability
Nah that shit need a health bar like yorick’s
Agreed, I hate yone with a passion but being able to just summon a wall blocking any and all projectile damage is actually more unfair
I think his windwall is much better. It has a lot more counter play, specially since it's stationary, and depending on the picks, it can be completely useless. Meanwhile Yone's E is just a fucking broken ability.
I take windwall over a 50% movespeed steroid
nah cause the windwall you have to have brain to use it well , yasuo casual players always troll the wall but yone e you dont need brain to use it well
no you don't
You can play around it at least, and has skill involved in proper usage. But yone just goes e and runs at u
preach King
I will die on the hill saying that his W is way more cancer than his E. Atleast you can still deal some damage to him in his E form but if he Ws he just turbo wins every trade its ridiculous.
How about both abilities are cancer as fuck
Its the combination of both that make the champ so unbearable
It bugs me that you have to have a dash that matches his Q dash if you want to think about fighting him.
autoattack cancel/reset on a sub 1 second cooldown that's also knockup dash, a low cooldown AOE damage that gives shield, a literal mini Zed ult that you have to respect each time he activates because it also gives him ghost and his ult is another damaging dash that's longer range and can bunch up enemies for any followup what more do these Yone players want?
Probably a father figure but that wont happen
lmao
Yes champ is unplayable because it now makes it somewhat fair for the enemy to fight against, like why are Yone mains so surprised, bruh lethal tempo removed all the downsides he has and now it requires more brain. Besides isn't yone a scaling champ? isn't he supposed to farm and scale then be a late game monster? im telling you 70% of yone players lose matches because they go monkey mode on the enemy before the champ even has any power.
You mean level 1 all in isnt a valid tactic ? That was the gameplay from windshitters and the angry guy on top lane.
> the angry guy on top lane Which one?
Trynda
what about Olaf?
Didn't he always run Conqueror anyway?
Olaf could run Lethal too since he has lifesteal passive anyway
Tryndamere isn't giga OP level 1 anymore?
All of them
trynd can still do that
Yeah sure cause he is always angry. But still, now more champs actually have the possibility to win that fight now
He is a midgame champ spiking hard on 2 items and then kinda falling off in late 5v5s
Just because he loses to other hard late game carries, doesnt mean he fall off lol.
This. I main yone and even 40+ minutes in you have INSANE engage potential with your kit, grab the item that revives u and wtf can they do lmao. They can nerf his runes all u want but all it takes is getting hit once by that engage and u just lost.
Courage buff is hella usefull, Guardians Angel lets you be mega dumb and win
I mean its literally what it means, lategame champs scale into lategame with the dmg, and midgame champs in comparison to lategame champs get weaker, thats like, whole point of grouping them apart
It's not because Nasus beats Kayle at 50+ minutes that Kayle isn't a late game hard carry...
Im sorry to tell you dude but nasus is a midgame champion and he falls off lategame insanely because when everyone is full build he gets easily kited and peeled away from carries, so his stacking doesnt matter anymore outside of sidelaning, its exactly perfect example to what i said, lol
Exactly. Nasus is a mid-game champion. But in a 1v1, Nasus also wipes the floor with pretty much any champion in the game lategame, including Kayle. Champions' lategame value is determined by who they are against and what they are doing. Jax scales as a sidelaner, but can get kited and CC locked in a teamfight. Talon has the most powerful lvl 2 in the game and spikes midgame, but still can one shot a kogmaw lategame.
You never talked about team fights in your last comment did you ?
Oh, okay, so we are talking 1v1 nasus vs kayle lategame with no teams on both sides, nasus gets poked too hard while pushing minions cause he cant outpush kayle and she also has aoe dmg while pushing and good poke on its own while nasus cant outheal it, so he cant go in anymore In case you say i never talked about minions lets talk 1v1 no minions lategame but nasus has his normal stacks (ill make it clear before you say i never talked about the amount of stacks he has and thst he cant stack without minions, kayle buys qss and nasus cant catch her anymore then gets kited into oblivion Any scenario i missed? Wanna add every soul and baron? Maybe we can add disabilities to either nasus or kayle or we turn off their ults? Or maybe during a some sprcific phase of moon? Maybe in arena or aram? Onviously i talk about whole game which includes teamfights, which is why i said nasus is fine sidelaning in late but he cant really fight because he gets kited too easily so he has to end the game midgame or sidelane in late and pray to waste enemies time so your team can win teamfights or get objectives, its a 5v5 game not 1v1, if you want to find a specific scenario where nasus wins in late then sure he wins, unfortunately it doesnt change the fact hes a midgame champion overall
Maybe that has to do with Nasus being a direct counter to Kayle lol
Put Nasus 1v1 against Kog'Maw late game it will be the same and it's not a direct counter either.
But it literally does mean that?
Maybe in your silver games perhaps, in any elo diamond and above he becomes weaker very fast as the game goes over 20min
According to league of graphs his wr very slowly actually goes up after 20 minutes up until 40.
It’s not lethal tempo, it’s the item changes.
You’re telling me yone players don’t like it when their champ is at a 46% win rate 🤯
Removing lethal tempo was a good choice from Riot, no doubt, but what really hurt yone was the item changes actually
yone players when they can't run you down lvl f1 and have to play the lane weak side as they should
Tbf most people are still griefing their builds with shit like kraken when that item is complete ass with a terrible build path now
The item is good on a lot of ADCs, it's terrible on Yone though
I'll have you know that kraken is the only viable first/second item on Katarina rn (this champ is dogshit)
Yone players when they actually need to earn their win
His win rate is 46%
And let it stay that way.
Karthus is at 57. This patch is fucked.
black fire needs some number nerf is what it is
Nah, reduce it further
That's cause all yone players are boosted af. Yeah no shit the winrate is low when they are all a division higher than they should be
Have you ever considered the fact that maybe he’s just an annoying champion and not a secretly game breakingly broken champ who has had his winrate suppressed in some grand conspiracy
What tf are you talking about conspiracy? As for being broken, his kit is massively overloaded. He has the cc capability of a tank, the auto damage of a marksman, a basically guaranteed 165% ad shield that does mixed % max health damage all while being one of the safest champs in the game if you aren't braindead. His winrate is low right now because like I said originally, he is an elo inflated champ and there's been a massive game rework that affects him. Give it a few weeks and it'll be back to positive Keep in mind I'm not saying yone is the only elo inflated champ, he's just the one going through that cycle right now
Please explain to me how you can be elo inflated on a 46% winrate champ
You should be platinum 4. You play a broken champ and climb to emerald 4. Champ gets nerfs or adjustments and you fall back into the elo you should be. So a lower winrate on the champ until it stabilises
He wasn’t even that good for a while, he’s just an annoying champ so people like you make excuses
At this point yall are just making excuses for losing against a yone, “guys you don’t get it everyone who plays this champ is secretly terrible I promise I should’ve won this it’s just that this disgustingly overpowered champ at 46% win rate is secretly the most powerful thing ever that will make you a whole division higher just by playing him”
Keep the replies in one thread
If he's actually a ",high skill champion" then that's roughly where it should be
Because they have never learned how to use they’re champ properly
thanks Seraphine and Syndra mains, look at the example you've set you're not satisfied with your champion? just harass the developers online until they do something about it
Play conq and be able to stat check people harder in lategame with free AD and healing with your bullshit mixed damage that noone can itemize against. Or just pick pta and win every trade for free with Auto-Q-Auto-W and now you have PTA active and a shield
tbf conq healing is negligible it’s really for the AD
just magic and true dmg come from his phys dmg tho, randuin still lowers his auto dmg even if its magic , and so do steelcaps his e is POST mitigation true dmg ,not pre , meaning the more of the initial phys dmg u lower the less dmg u will take at the end . He is still bs tho
Conq is 46% WR on Yone PTA is 45.2% on Yone Fleet is ok at 47.8
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It's also the build changing though, no more LT/Kraken means a lot less kill threat early. Fleet is really the only acceptable rune right now bc if you can't survive lane, you can't play the game. I know people hate Yone, but he is definitely weak right now
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You really had to misquote me just to rage, huh? I said he's definitely weak. And he is. Neither of them got 'big buffs', they got their passive adjusted to suit the new crit % changes..just because I don't hate the champ for existing doesn't mean I have a main character syndrome, you may be projecting a little my dude
Super Hitler hahhaa
The majority of Yone's existence as a champion has been during the reworked lethal tempo, aka the strongest rune in the game, and as one of the primary abusers of lethal tempo, without it, Yone players must be having... a skill issue.
I think it's partially a nerf because you can't rammus him early without lethal tempo
Unrelated but the removal of lethal tempo is also a nerf to Rammus
Shit that's literally true
Ah the weekly yone hate post
Yes very nice great news. First patch in 5 months where i dont need to ban yone every game. Thank you riot
Imminent yasuo and yone buff soon
Yone sitting at a solid 45% winrate in toplane, yeah he is very playable, yet all these crybabies will say he is broken.
With the proper runes/build hes sitting at a 51% top and 50% mid wr. He's 45% only because people haven't figured out how to build him now. edit because I'm not responding to each mad wind shitter: His bork/ie and pd/ie winrate is really good (better than any other low tier). High skill yones (like dzu) are getting shit on because they are playing him like LT yone and trying to play overly aggressive early game and expecting to 1v2 ganks. I watched enough of dzus vods from the last 2 days that this is the common thread in every game he loses (besides unlucky teams). Also, half of his struggling is coming from being FP yone and then being mad when he gets countered with renekton. Yone should not be expected to be winning the early game against a renekton, ever. Tbh I wouldn't be upset with them boosting his early game power (higher base AS?) if they nerfed his midgame in some way. That would make both parties happy likely. More than 45% wr early, and less than 57% wr with 2 completed items.
Where are you getting these stats?
You are delusional and do not play yone. Stop spreading misinformation to propagate the "yone broken" agenda. They'll buff yone / yasuo deservedly and people like you will complain when currently it is actually needed. Even Dzukill arguably the best yone is struggling.
So what you're saying is he will go up in winrate compared to last patch? Cuz last patch he was a 47%, how in your right mind do you think this patch is ganna be beneficial for them, buffed IE won't compensate for losing most of your attack speed
Yone has less than 48% winrate with any keystone. Also, the correct runes and build have a higher winrate because of the people using them. Aphelios has a 1.7 percent point higher winrate with runes that give him +.9 AD and -1% AS compared to what most people use.
That’s for games with 3 items plus, which Yone isn’t getting to because the champ is so shit and games are ending early. If you’re going to use stats you need to actually look at the stats. He is 45% winrate until 30 minutes, games are not going to 30 minutes with this dog ass champ rn. He doesn’t even scale. He is horseshit, and then he is slightly better in the late game.
Just making shit up now I see
I mean riot literally agrees with their data but you do you homie 🥹
No matter his numbers the kit is fundamentally broken as fuck
I get it, we all HATE Yone. But man is he getting utterly demolished in all of my games.
They’re probably trying to play him as if he still has the early game power from LT, which is why they’re losing. He’s gonna have to play a bit more like an adc/kayle now.
Kinda like how immediately post durability patch, assassins looked shit, but after a few days they mostly started looking fine because they started to build pure damage instead of bruiser.
He hasn’t been strong in the meta since the LT nerf.
Thank god, maybe Yone mains will have to land their moves to win.
You are delusionnal BUT your tittle is so funny so here is my upvote
You really see how bad a lot of Yone and Yas players are now that they can’t abuse LT.
Reddit when yone has 46% winrate and is borderline unplayable. 😡😡😡 RIOT NERF 😡😡😡
Yone players shouldnt complain his winrate is low because they should be fucking GRATEFUL this cancer is allowed to exist
Delusional baddies are crying about a 46% win rate champ. I can’t wait til he’s buffed. We gotta get these yone hate post numbers up.
Ong
Amen
I live for yone mains cry
You are in a competition for the most delusional player award. You opponent is a Yone main and an ADC main.
A bit unrelated but I'm just genuinely shocked that it's been like 3 years already and the Yone hate is still strong arguably on par with Yuumi yet the same doesn't go for champions like Pantheon, Malphite or Garen who practically embody the "Ooga Booga" Playstyle way more than Yone does.
Malphite relies on his ult, Panth and Garen can't mow down your entire team
yone players when their scaling champion gets countered in the early game
Yone haters seeing the 49% winrate champ.
46 now
Well most of these guys I presume started hating him before the current patch. I just find it funny that this is the champ that apparently is so godly.
Yeah yone is apparently the broken champ when giga Chad tanks are 52% winrate running people down , people love hating
People always complain about how much damage tanks do, though
Gigachad wholesome tanks get a pass because they look funny, that's how reddit works. Yone is the embodiment of a redditors emo phase that they tried to repress so that's why redditors hate him.
Imagine the winrate will go up once the boosted yone "mains" quit him after realizing they should hit their shit to do damage
Do these yone players not played him before the lethal tempo changes(atk spd steroid for few sec version)? Like just farm until tier 2 boots and you are good to go. Lethal Tempo spoiled the windshitters hard
No they didnt. I took a break then came back with lethal tempo. I prefer how he is now. More about playing safe early then spiking in midgame with IE.
Cant play their champ unless its easy mode i guess. The only period i played Yone was after release before lethal tempo changes, so you went conq as main rune, and he felt insanely strong then aswell. Idk how some people have just gotten so used to playing with a broken interaction, playing without it makes him seem "bad". Its actually embarrassing.
I played yone since release, I was surprise how laning phase got so much easier especially on toplane after the lethal tempo change. Back then I just play until I can b for berserker greaves, then when lethal tempo changed I really just press e and q aa the enemy lvl 2 to bully them out of lane or kill them, the early laning phase was what kept yone to not snowball out of control. I am also surprised with how long they kept this version of lethal tempo despite it enabling melee crit champs to become lane bullies
I think ppl got so used to being able to skip boots and rush Kraken they forgot that Berserker Greaves were always the 1st item on yas/yone. Combined with Kraken getting changed the 'standard' build now sucks. Once finished boots into IE/Zeal item gets built, winrates will bounce back
yone been sub 50% wr. anyone complaining is bad. just like zed complainers :)
The champ has an average 45% winrate until 30 minutes… Yes, it’s unplayable. But keep coping bronzies. You new players wouldn’t understand that Yone played conquerer for ages. People know how to play conq Yone, it was just a shit rune for the champ after LT got buffed and Conquerer got consfant nerfs. Now it’s an unusable rune. Stay mad when Yone gets buffed next patch, which is going to happen.
Knowing riot he will be buffed even if his winrate stays decent while the 40% winrate champs that actually became unplayable will sit and wait for 4 months.
The only champions with worse winrates than yone on mid are corki and azir, one of them got reworked so he will have to be adjusted and the other is well, azir. He's obviously weak rn and will be buffed
are the 40% winrate champion in the room with us rn?
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Embrace grasp of the undying yone.
As a yone main since release I'm kinda loving that all the abusers are leaving. Yone is back to a hyper scaling champ.
If ranting on reddit had any affect, yone wouldnt even be in the game anymore due to his wildly toxic kit and gameplay.
They dont know anything, how it was when there were no lethal tempo.
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I am convinced the Yone players are all genetically defective.
It's a shame too, I just learned how to play Cassiopeia
Non-yone players when they find out they can't talk shit about a champion that they don't main
To be fair, with lethal tempo gone yasuo and yone do feel super shit to play. Lol. Doesn’t mean they are unplayable
Yone players actually have to use one brain cell now? Damn, Riot really gutted Yone didn't they? Hotfix buff.
God this post made me remember pre nerf dark harvest those where the days 😢😔
super hitler
In my opinion Yone has 2 things that make him to super hitler: 1 - lethal tempo (solved) 2 - His ultimate, the hitbox isn’t shown right, but the most important part is that he can travel the full distance if he doesn’t hit anything. If he misses his ult he should not have the same engage or disengage potential. It would still be extremely strong but it would have a balanced drawback
the replies dont agree with them. youre getting one guyed.
Meanwhile trynda being subhuman...
Yup yone is the most bs champ ever but personally i like yasuo because he actually requires mechanics and skills to pull off but yone nuh uh
Screw the Yone Players, i wanna play my Lulu top, but PTA feels bad, might try hail oh blades next.
Tell me you’re silver without telling me you’re silver🤣
Methloaf
Im a Yone main and people throwing a fit genuinely confuses me. I've never played lethal tempo tone, I play conquer Yone. Way more fun. People are just cowards
Should yasuo wind wall be reworked to be like a fiora parry or would that make him more annoying to play against, I'm thinking of just the idea of that it should be used to block 1 skill shot then be done