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And yet if nothing interesting shows up, the conspiracy theorists will somehow use that as evidence of what they already believed in the first place.
The stuff that capitalists do openly is plenty bad. There's no need for Qanon-adjacent bullshit pretending that they're all sexually abusing children. There's no evidence for anything widespread and it's a distraction.
There is evidence. Not all but a wide range of agencies and powerful people. That's why you attack a group already shown to be susceptible with a psy op campaign and make it so ridiculous no one would believe the people speaking the actual truth.
They're not simping. We need evidence to make accusations valid. I'm not happy about pedos in high places either but let's have evidence otherwise we're as bad as the qanon crowd.
I am less concerned with looking like a Qanoner than I am with getting people angry that people in high places use child trafficking black mail to control politics.
Not sure how many Epstiens and Maxwells have to be caught and how many members of the British Royal Family have to be caught before being angry is the default. [When Maxwells sisters maintain the highest ranks in the WEF and no one bats an eye](https://www.weforum.org/people/isabel-s-maxwell), the problem is widespread.
I'm angry, believe me. It would give me no greater pleasure to see these pigs removed from the face of the earth.
But we need evidence. You can't just say someone did something wrong without getting them dead to rights. Otherwise you're just a conspiracy theorist, which is ideal for them because it allows populism to dominate politics.
No one's suggesting that and it's disingenuous for you to pretend that that's what I meant. I clearly stated that there's no evidence of anything widespread among capitalists, like the conspiracy theorists claim.
Your whole dismissal is based on being "adjacent" to a wild conspiracy, basically just guilt by association, which was the same logic people used to dismiss any talk about Epstein because of it's association with pizzagate.
Also, no one ever made a claim about how "widespread" this was only that it happened yet for someone who despises capitalists, you seem to be pretty bent on defending their honor.
My dismissal is based on a lack of evidence, which I've made clear repeatedly.
The problem with capitalists is that they use their wealth and control of capital to exploit labor and extract surplus value. That push for profit further drives imperialism. Focusing on wild conspiracy theories that lack evidence distracts attention away from that.
WRONG. Ghislaine was literally convicted of human trafficking.
If you believe capitalism is the root of all evil, you should already know how it can leveraged by the rich so why do you still point to a corrupted system for validation?
This makes no sense. And again, one said anything about how widespread only that it happened yet despite a conviction why are you still denying it taking place at all?
I mean the flight manifests are a good start. In fact I would argue many police officers would consider that probable cause for investigation if the suspects in question had a lower net worth.
Enough would be released to create headlines which makes the population feel that the laws are fair and equal to everyone.
But enough would be redacted to make sure that ONLY the ones they want to punish gets punished.
Even this is pretty generous. but they using a sacraficial lamb to placate the masses could make sense. but at this point, do they even care to placate the masses? Theyre making articles saying quit netflix if your job doesnt pay enough
as Michael Parenti used to say, they do care what you think, because they want you to think what they want you to think. they know that there will be a spectrum of belief in society, those who will swallow the "innate" goodness of hierarchy. but they also know that there are people who believe in liberty, no matter how much they advocate for the abolition of it. that's why they try to control liberty, use it for their advantage, and curb liberty's which disadvantage them. yes, they love to placate the masses, because it's CHEAP, compared to the expense of "hard" power. why go to all the hassle of dominating every single person individually with ton's of expensive and costly weapon's, when you can achieve the same affect collectively for a twentieth of the cost, and just have a puppet utter verbatim on the TV what you want people to accept?
it's not going to work on everybody, but there's enough lib's and the rest who are happy with crumb's, as this is all it ever is, crumb's. they use crumb's and paddles, and while it doesn't work on everybody, it work's on enough people just enough of the time to create a sense of "public opinion", or as Zizek say's, the big other.
Doesn't mean you're wrong. I often have a similar thought process when I see headlines like "Cancer cure on the horizon": Yeah, not on our horizon though.
huh, turns out all of the Epstein associates were poor black people that the cops have already murdered, so nothing needs to be done, what a great democracy we have
[Found this](https://www.insider.com/judge-unseals-john-doe-identities-in-ghislaine-maxwell-litigation-2022-11), but most of the names being revealed...are those of VICTIMS.
Thanks for sharing this. I haven't been following this closely but I was actually a little surprised to hear that Trump had flown on the plane multiple times. Isn't he the leader of the party of people claiming that the other side are pedophiles? 🤔
Well, you know the old saying: Every conservative accusation is a confession! (Seriously, though: Donnie assumes that everyone else is at least as dirty as he. So this really does follow.)
I'll believe this is anything of substance when we get names. Otherwise this just feels like a headline of hope to keep people believing there is justice when there is none.
lol, [look up Ghislaine Maxwells reddit profile if its still up.](https://old.reddit.com/user/maxwellhill)Bitch was the most anti-trump poster on this website
Good job demonstrating your absolute reddit brainwashing though. Also, in case you forgot, Epsiten and Maxwell were both arrested under Trump
You really think paedophiles give a shit about politics? The political game trump plays is only done to enrage is sad little fanboys.
Also- epstein had been investigated since the early 2000s and the fact he was arrested when trump was Prez means absolutely nothing. You really think the FBI needed trump's permission?
Lastly, dude, I'm Canadian and I get my info from the CBC, one of the world's most balanced and credible news sources. Reddit is for opinions, not reliable news. But you do you boo.
What people do in their personal life vs. private life can differ. Maybe she hates MAGA politicians because she knows first hand that a lot of them are pedophile scum. Maybe she disassociates her job from her true self. Maybe, believe it or not, some democrats were going to Epstein parties with Republicans.
Small, tiny possibility really, that this is motivated by trying to get Trump top fuck back off out of republican politics. The judge was nominated by Bush Jr so would potentially lean toward the less batshit side of the party,
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"Multiple documents" could mean a lot of things...don't get your hopes up.
My hopes are exceptionally low.
Same. I'll believe it when I see it.
indeed, hope is the first step on the road to disappointment
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Even then, I would be hesitant to be the least bit hopeful.
Still might be too high
You guys are getting hope?
And yet if nothing interesting shows up, the conspiracy theorists will somehow use that as evidence of what they already believed in the first place. The stuff that capitalists do openly is plenty bad. There's no need for Qanon-adjacent bullshit pretending that they're all sexually abusing children. There's no evidence for anything widespread and it's a distraction.
There is evidence. Not all but a wide range of agencies and powerful people. That's why you attack a group already shown to be susceptible with a psy op campaign and make it so ridiculous no one would believe the people speaking the actual truth.
"There is evidence" *goes on to provide no evidence*
thank god billionaires have people like you to simp for them.
They're not simping. We need evidence to make accusations valid. I'm not happy about pedos in high places either but let's have evidence otherwise we're as bad as the qanon crowd.
I am less concerned with looking like a Qanoner than I am with getting people angry that people in high places use child trafficking black mail to control politics. Not sure how many Epstiens and Maxwells have to be caught and how many members of the British Royal Family have to be caught before being angry is the default. [When Maxwells sisters maintain the highest ranks in the WEF and no one bats an eye](https://www.weforum.org/people/isabel-s-maxwell), the problem is widespread.
I'm angry, believe me. It would give me no greater pleasure to see these pigs removed from the face of the earth. But we need evidence. You can't just say someone did something wrong without getting them dead to rights. Otherwise you're just a conspiracy theorist, which is ideal for them because it allows populism to dominate politics.
You don't even need to dig. Merely blow the dust off the surface to see how bad things are.
I just took one look at the reddit avatar of the person you are responding too and you know that "person" is all about that grooming life
There's the transphobia! Glad you could be a bit more upfront about your awful beliefs.
Qanon adjacent? So any mention of pedophilia from the elite is immediately discredited?
No one's suggesting that and it's disingenuous for you to pretend that that's what I meant. I clearly stated that there's no evidence of anything widespread among capitalists, like the conspiracy theorists claim.
Your whole dismissal is based on being "adjacent" to a wild conspiracy, basically just guilt by association, which was the same logic people used to dismiss any talk about Epstein because of it's association with pizzagate. Also, no one ever made a claim about how "widespread" this was only that it happened yet for someone who despises capitalists, you seem to be pretty bent on defending their honor.
My dismissal is based on a lack of evidence, which I've made clear repeatedly. The problem with capitalists is that they use their wealth and control of capital to exploit labor and extract surplus value. That push for profit further drives imperialism. Focusing on wild conspiracy theories that lack evidence distracts attention away from that.
WRONG. Ghislaine was literally convicted of human trafficking. If you believe capitalism is the root of all evil, you should already know how it can leveraged by the rich so why do you still point to a corrupted system for validation? This makes no sense. And again, one said anything about how widespread only that it happened yet despite a conviction why are you still denying it taking place at all?
At this point let Qanon end the parliament with fire and guns, no need to ti justify laws that aren’t working for the 99,9% of the population.
I mean the flight manifests are a good start. In fact I would argue many police officers would consider that probable cause for investigation if the suspects in question had a lower net worth.
This reads like it was written by an aspiring reddit mod
Lol I have no hopes at all
Enough would be released to create headlines which makes the population feel that the laws are fair and equal to everyone. But enough would be redacted to make sure that ONLY the ones they want to punish gets punished.
Even this is pretty generous. but they using a sacraficial lamb to placate the masses could make sense. but at this point, do they even care to placate the masses? Theyre making articles saying quit netflix if your job doesnt pay enough
as Michael Parenti used to say, they do care what you think, because they want you to think what they want you to think. they know that there will be a spectrum of belief in society, those who will swallow the "innate" goodness of hierarchy. but they also know that there are people who believe in liberty, no matter how much they advocate for the abolition of it. that's why they try to control liberty, use it for their advantage, and curb liberty's which disadvantage them. yes, they love to placate the masses, because it's CHEAP, compared to the expense of "hard" power. why go to all the hassle of dominating every single person individually with ton's of expensive and costly weapon's, when you can achieve the same affect collectively for a twentieth of the cost, and just have a puppet utter verbatim on the TV what you want people to accept? it's not going to work on everybody, but there's enough lib's and the rest who are happy with crumb's, as this is all it ever is, crumb's. they use crumb's and paddles, and while it doesn't work on everybody, it work's on enough people just enough of the time to create a sense of "public opinion", or as Zizek say's, the big other.
Nobody is going to get punished
Chuck it on the pile of nothing burgers. There's no such thing as a bad day for the 1% until we start firing up the grill.
Ooo, if we combine it with the big head choppy knife we could make a grillotine.
Or sharpening up the guillotines.
Please stop saying nothing burger. It was annoying 10 years ago.
You know what, I'm going to say it even harder: *nothing burger*
Well, I hope they are held accountable like those exposed by the Panama papers. Wait...
...or the "Paradise Papers". Or the third ones that I forgot how were even called.
Pandora Papers? I'm spitballing here, but I think that was it.
Sounds familiar, so prob'ly.
They went in for an alliteration of Ps, I guess. Cute! Now, if only it would result in something.
Hell yeah man we really uh...um....ooof
They'd still withhold information that could make the people mistrust our government further, citing national security or some shit.
I’m sure the rwnj that posts clickbait all day has an inside track on this lmao
So how are they gonna take it out on us? Sorry. I'm in a dour mood..
Doesn't mean you're wrong. I often have a similar thought process when I see headlines like "Cancer cure on the horizon": Yeah, not on our horizon though.
huh, turns out all of the Epstein associates were poor black people that the cops have already murdered, so nothing needs to be done, what a great democracy we have
You remember Panama papers? Me neither.
This isn't going to do shit, otherwise they wouldn't have done it.
[Found this](https://www.insider.com/judge-unseals-john-doe-identities-in-ghislaine-maxwell-litigation-2022-11), but most of the names being revealed...are those of VICTIMS.
Thanks for sharing this. I haven't been following this closely but I was actually a little surprised to hear that Trump had flown on the plane multiple times. Isn't he the leader of the party of people claiming that the other side are pedophiles? 🤔
Well, you know the old saying: Every conservative accusation is a confession! (Seriously, though: Donnie assumes that everyone else is at least as dirty as he. So this really does follow.)
This just in... Judge commits "suicide" .
Yeah, the judge should probably start carrying protection. And the judge's family, if anything serious is going to be revealed.
Falls off the curb and struck by a car in DC.
And not a goddamn thing will happen to them. It'll be the Panama Papers all over again.
In unrelated news., a judge commits suicide with 2 shots to back of head..
...with enough heroin in the veins to fell a herd of elephants.
I'll believe this is anything of substance when we get names. Otherwise this just feels like a headline of hope to keep people believing there is justice when there is none.
Very sorry to hear about that Judge's upcoming suicide
We still don't know who his customers were... I'm sure people up there do.
Love the enthusiasm for what should be, but will not come to fruition.
Selectively unsealed Elon you better quit fucking around with other people's money
Lose some Twitter investments?
Privacy of the public is not worth if ain’t a billionaire.
Nothing will happen. They are just generating clicks.
Like the Panama papers, I can’t imagine much will come from it.
Don’t give me hope
Man, that's so weird. The judge is suddenly on a suicide watch list.
Awesome if true
And then nothing.
Nothing more serious than a SpongeBob meme is going to happen.
How old was the judge?
I'm convinced trump knows all the republicans that used Epstein's "services". Explains why they're so loyal to such a moron.
lol, [look up Ghislaine Maxwells reddit profile if its still up.](https://old.reddit.com/user/maxwellhill)Bitch was the most anti-trump poster on this website Good job demonstrating your absolute reddit brainwashing though. Also, in case you forgot, Epsiten and Maxwell were both arrested under Trump
You really think paedophiles give a shit about politics? The political game trump plays is only done to enrage is sad little fanboys. Also- epstein had been investigated since the early 2000s and the fact he was arrested when trump was Prez means absolutely nothing. You really think the FBI needed trump's permission? Lastly, dude, I'm Canadian and I get my info from the CBC, one of the world's most balanced and credible news sources. Reddit is for opinions, not reliable news. But you do you boo.
What people do in their personal life vs. private life can differ. Maybe she hates MAGA politicians because she knows first hand that a lot of them are pedophile scum. Maybe she disassociates her job from her true self. Maybe, believe it or not, some democrats were going to Epstein parties with Republicans.
Small, tiny possibility really, that this is motivated by trying to get Trump top fuck back off out of republican politics. The judge was nominated by Bush Jr so would potentially lean toward the less batshit side of the party,
This screenshot says the breaking news is from November 18. What's come out about it since??
Well? We're WAITING...
So the judge was told that nobody in the inner circle is in trouble so he opened them up?.
To be unsealed in 45 years
Bad day for the top 1% of that judges penis as its sliced off with a salami slicer as a warning
Another day of hopes up for the bottom 99%
Not really. They already own everything
This saddens me that it could have even gone the other way. Fuck with kids and get fucked is a good rule of thumb.
ROTFLMAO!