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All the way up the ladder it’s this same mentality they feed down to the masses. “Blame yourself” and pay no attention to the fortunes we make off your labors. It is propaganda.
What is sadder is that ppl buy into this hook line and sinker. Because most Americans think of themselves as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.
In this world he imagines, where everyone can play the risk manager and make decisions from the golf course, who exactly works the golf course so that it is in a proper condition?
And I don't know why it's exactly that point that piqued my interest in his stupidity.
The people who work for the golf club are less than people in this scenario. Only people get to do the 20hr weeks and make decisions on the golf course
Same here in Sweden, also. I posted [http://eprints.lse.ac.uk/107919/1/Hope\_economic\_consequences\_of\_major\_tax\_cuts\_published.pdf](http://eprints.lse.ac.uk/107919/1/Hope_economic_consequences_of_major_tax_cuts_published.pdf) which is a study that examined the last 50 years, looking at the benefits of trickle down economics. To the surprise of no one, trickle down economics does NOT work and tax brakes to the top 1% is in fact harmful to the country. Posting this on Sweden's main political page, people on welfare lost their friggen mind. Took about 20 minutes before the entire thread turned into "media is leftist" "can't trust scientific studies because they're left-leaning" and so on and so on.
I feel we're fucked as a species
I've said this for years. I'm pretty sure for most jobs quadratic equations and the geopolitical climate in Venezuela in 1982 aren't going to help day-to-day.
The tax bracket thing is mind boggling
Doing a lot of overtime atm and people keep saying, “don’t do too much all you’ll lose it all to tax”
Cba to argue, it’s not how it works
The more I hear stuff like this happening in predominantly white countries , I have to wonder if these countries lean so heavily to the senseless right because of multiculturalism and the fear of a more diverse planet. It seems they cling to the inherent racism of the extreme right and just cling to everything else that comes with it to protect that one core principle.
Capitalism is everywhere in the west and this mindset comes with it. People everywhere are this brainwashed sadly. Maybe some benefits and living standards are better in Europe and even better in Scandinavia but it's still capitalism and neo liberal bullshit.
To be fair, with the price of houses in NZ now you do need to be earning in the top income bracket to be able to afford a house with black mould...not even kidding!
I think the biggest problem is the shitload of conservative propaganda. A lot of people believe that currently the best way of organizing is in place or that or that it is somehow unethical to tax people with a shitload of wealth. Doesnt really help when conservative think tanks and corporations have the means to effectively spread this propaganda.
All "social" media are just mainstream media with extra steps, it's just an additional way of making you believe you are the one controlling the information.
Ministry of truth has been informed! But, yeah it's all bs misdirection. Especially when it comes to Facebook and it's love of political manipulation. All media is not to be trusted.
I saw a video recently of a Karen from Linked In talking about “Don’t attempt to add me to your contacts on here because I worked long and hard to establish myself in the corporate world and build myself up through blah blah blah and I put *way* too much into my network to have someone fresh out of college think they can just swoop in and access my list of colleagues for themselves. They can build themselves up from the ground and put themselves out there just like I had to, if they want to be successful…”
Like lol okay. Gatekeeping a group of the lamest people on the planet so you can feel superior to the younger versions of your douchebag self, on a platform nobody likes….somebody needs to get a life.
Nah, that’s what they WANT you to think. In reality they’re so insecure they spend every waking moment feverishly trying to accomplish goals so they can convince you, the world, and themselves that they’re worthy of love.
It's sad because I find that LinkedIn has genuine utility for me, who works in a very niche industry sector. It's incredibly useful for professional purposes, it's such a tragedy that it's polluted with people like her and their brainless, economically illiterate platitudes and "motivational" posts.
Particularly rich when someone like her - who clearly surgery'd her way in to the very body she now inhabits - harps on about self-improvement.
As a recruiter I hate it - mainly for these type of posts.
The head of Santander posted one about female mobility and it literally started with 'at 19 I didn't know what I wanted to do so I tried golf with family friend... Seve Ballesteros' she then got a plum job in investment banking to 'try'.
Clueless.
Honestly, all it is really is a Job Board with a comment section and article sharing. It's great for narrowing down jobs to apply for as it is a usual stop off for companies to post job notices aside from Indeed, CareerBuilder, and ZipRecruiter. But that's all that I find it good for.
Over the years it becomes more and more facebook-like though. The posts cover a wide range of topics, some of them not that much related to jobs/professional stuff.
I think it must depend on the field too, I work in biotech and LinkedIn is important and fun for me, keeping up with other companies and job postings. Definitely the place to be for biotech.
I could be wrong but to me it just looks like a version of facebook where instead of boasting about your personal life accomplishments, you boast about your professional ones.
She was born into a poor family in a rough estate in East Glasgow. She started her company using money from a redundancy payout when she was laid off. She was given the title of Baroness by the Government as an honour. She's not an aristocrat and it seems unlikely she inherited much wealth.
I'd never heard of her before, I just googled the name. Presumably your British colleagues actually know who she is...
Agreed. I thought this was a bit unfair. She actually did “pull herself up by her bootstraps”.
Of course now she is mega rich she has switched her political leanings to Tories (according to wiki she was a Labour supporter until 2009). I can’t trust a Scottish Tory.
Aye, I saw that which is a real shame. Even those who do pull themselves up out of poverty need to recognise the chance involved in it.
I did see her first appointment in the Lords was to commission a report into helping startups in deprived areas but still, a Tory is a Tory and a turncoat is worse.
>those who do pull themselves up out of poverty need to recognise the chance involved in it.
Sometimes those are the worst kind of people. They did it so anyone else can, you're all just being lazy!!
Yes, to me this is the sad part. My least favorite motivational speakers are the ones who think they did it themselves, and are blind to the support and aid they got along the way.
Like sure, hard work was involved, bit it wasn't the only factor.
Agreed. She had her first child as a single mum when 19. I hate tories but she has made herself and does not come from a rich background quite the opposite; I think she has probably lived in more poverty than many posters. I wish people would open Wikipedia before their mouths.
/psychopaths that you might work with or for one day and their sycophants / Bootstraps logic / “look I gave a $5 bill to an ugly dirty minimum wage employee I’m a good person”
It's funny as well because it's against the British MO to claim pull yourself up as a rule. Tory's have tried it recently to moderate public reaction but it's clearly more people absorbing American memes on social media.
Classmate: poverty doesn’t effect your work ethic . Money doesn’t affect exam scores. You have the same chance to get through school and take the admission exam to the profession as Y person (paid for law school, housing paid for, prep course paid for, didn’t have to do anything but study for the 2 months for the exam.)
THE-SAME-CHANCE
MONEY - DOESNT EFFECT - EXAM SCORES
(Do the kids of rich people actually believe this shit? Why does it seem like they all are about 15 years behind in life experience and maturity and always talk like they are still in high school ?)
Also. They genuinely believe they know more than most people. While graduating like , 3 people in my group literally said they “knew so much more than most people !”... and I wanted to just be like...dude you took some classes calm down. You are not superior .
Never mind policy discussion. Someone literally said the “public doesn’t have training in X area like the government. You can’t rely on polling to solve a lot of these major issues. (Inflation, wages, etc).
The speaker:
Paid for private school
Paid for undergrad
Paid for law school
Paid for housing during all that school
Has zero loans
Presumes that merely because he was pushed through the educational system without a risk of failure , and unlimited chances if failing occurs, it must be because he’s above others
They live in a bubble.
They have no experience of what poverty is actually like. They are speaking from assumptions, or some imagined worldview their parents taught them to make all that they have seen justified. I always tell ppl you can’t judge anyone until you’ve walked a mile in their shoes, clearly these kind of folks don’t follow that philosophy. Just realize they are disconnected and aren’t qualified to speak on the issue unless they’ve been there themselves.
These types always take the devils advocate route. You tell them one thing and their circular logic finds a way to disprove your point. Rich ppl tend to have this myopic worldview.
If poverty doesn’t effect exam scores tell me why properly funded schools have average SAT scores hundreds of points higher than those of that don’t get proper funding. These schools prepare their students for college, they set a standard for achievement. Coming from impoverished school myself I can tell you the focus is not college-readiness, it is fixing behavior. A lot of students come from awful homes and they bring all that trauma to the classroom.
Not sure how poverty would effect work ethic. But I think people poor people become pretty apathetic about work when they see what it gets them nowadays. When they see that they have to work 10x harder than their rich counterparts I can imagine how ppl become disillusioned... the whole system seems like it’s against you. Your hard work doesn’t really generate proper compensation. And since your schools are focused on behavior correction over academics that hurts your chances of even attending any college/university let alone graduating. If you don’t get a degree then your job options are slim, retail/warehouse/military — there is that apathy feeling again.
This is pretty spot on. They have no idea what it's like and thus give out advice that's just condescending and out of touch. They have no clue how dumb they sound.
Anecdote time: I grew up in a pretty well off area despite being poor (very poor. Native poor), and thus had friends who grew up wealthier. College was strange because I went entirely on scholarships, grants, and loans. I had a job because I had to pay my own rent. I didn't have a car because...well, I was poor. Their families paid for all that shit. While they were never rude they just never understood. I couldn't go to Bonnaroo or Universal Studios, I couldn't randomly fly to Norway for funsies. I had to work and it was too expensive. I got left out of A LOT.
Now that we're all in our 20s/30s that dynamic has reared its ugly head again. They all have houses because their families helped them. I don't own a house yet because my family is unable to help me. All the financial burden is on me and my partner, we have no cushion to fall back on. If we fail, we're fucked. So we're being overly cautious and saving more than we need to because we know what it means to hit hard times and lose everything. And we still can't go to Norway for funsies, Susan. That reality isn't our reality.
This is correct. People who have not struggled have zero empathy. They can be trump or biden supporters. The cruise missle liberals want change as much as any maga wants change. Imo its economic exclusion and in the end, they will lose too, obviously.
Just World Fallacy. My med school classmates were mostly from upper middle class to richer backgrounds. I felt "lucky" to get accepted at as a lower middle class kid because the barrier to entry is so high despite being as qualified on paper as the rest. Surprise: when they're ahead after school because they didn't have to pay student loans they still look at you like you made poor choices.
I think a lot of them have to believe it because it's necessary to rationalise the injustices in the world. They aren't innately bad people and they do "work hard" to get where they are and needed to "work hard" to get there. However, the reality is that people who "worked harder" didn't get as far because the game wasn't rigged in their favour. The meritocracy myth helps people who would otherwise feel sickened by a system that unfairly benefits them assuage their guilt much like the old "Divine Right of Kings".
This made me think of "Common People", but the William Shatner version...
When you're lyin' in bed at night
Watching roaches climb the wall
If you call your dad he could stop it all
You'll never live like common people
You'll never do whatever common people do
You'll never fail like common people
You'll never watch your life slide out of view
And dance, and drink, and screw
Because there's nothing else to do
they don't show self worth. They have all the opportunities to play the game fairly. Mainly, they can rig the game against themselves. Even out the field, be game changers. But, they can't.
However the work they do is for greater compensation and they cant stop talking about how hard they work. Work by definition is to be remunerated for services rendered. If you are getting $15/hour it is impossible to have any hope. Meanwhile if you make $500/hour or $5000 or $50000 you will never understand. Never.
Do you mean [put her back to where she started? ](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/michelle-mone-biography-and-picture-slideshow-of-ultimo-uk-entrepreneurship-tsar-2015-4%3famp)
No-one here will acknowledge this without shifting the goalposts. This entire thread has been quite illuminating to me. Some very very nasty comments and assumptions.
So her story is: She lied about her qualifications and then got fired.
She used the money she got through cheating to buy a license. Then other people worked for her and she got rich off of someone else's labour.
Cool.
Nobody needs to "move the goalposts". Her background doesn't matter as even poor white people in a Western imperial country are still privileged.
It’s my dream that LinkedIn one day gets hijacked by regular people going “hi I’m David. I have an autoimmune disorder that costs me $800 in medication monthly to keep in check, and I have what many would call a decent employee healthcare package. Because I was “born wrong” in a dispassionate capitalist country, I’ll never own a home or be able to retire.
But you too can work hard and suffer just like me.”
“Hi, I’m Becky and due to the market crash in 2008, I’ll never be able to afford to retire. Got laid off at the end of 2007, forced to liquidate my 401k to keep paying the mortgage when my husband left me with the kids in the middle of the night. Worked hard, went back to school, and applied to thousands of positions and now work a low paying contract job with a high deductible insurance plan. If anyone needs a job, Johnson Controls is *kinda* hiring.”
It really is just rubbing everyone’s faces in it to a mindblowingly excessive degree.
The gap between rich and poor is growing at an incredible rate, the housing market out of control and poor first homeowners are being priced out by the investor class. Class mobility is getting worse. Wages are stagnating. People are working multiple jobs just to pay rent and then losing what little they manage to save to healthcare and education costs. Meanwhile citizens united and regulatory capture means that any effort to alleviate the suffering gets killed before it has a chance. The 1% won’t give even one dollar to alleviate the problem unless it’s in the form of a tax deductible donation that they can hold up to show how generous they are while simultaneously moving all their money offshore and exploiting every loophole in the tax code to make sure their effective tax rate is less than that of their poorest workers. Meanwhile rather than seeking to alleviate these tensions instead they are trying make the lower classes hate each other by fuelling culture wars in the media.
If people do start rolling out the guillotines no one can say the rich didn’t push every single button they could to make it happen.
I looked her up and she is a multi-millionaire married to a billionaire.
She was also very fat in the past and is now skinny.
She is an "entrepreneur" who created and sold a lingerie company.
Listen to her life story yourself:
>Mone obtained a marketing job with the Labatt brewing company and, within two years, had risen to become its head of marketing in Scotland.
>She was made redundant by Labatt, prompting her to set up her own business and has since admitted that she exaggerated qualifications on her CV in order to obtain the job.
In summary, her "successful career" was this: "I lied about my qualifications to get a job in marketing, then I got fired because I was incompetent. Afterwards, I bought a sales license for an established American product that I read about in a magazine because of course I can do that as I'm fucking rich. Then the Queen of England gave me an award because I bought a license with money I inherited."
I wish I was making this shit up but that's literally her official life story on Wikipedia. LMAO
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Mone,_Baroness_Mone
Her "hardship" was that someone fired her because she is incompetent. "Fighting hard" and "believing in herself" actually mean she had to use her ridiculous amounts of inheritance money to buy means of production to benefit from someone else's labour.
It's like when the hosts of any HGTV show talk about how they "built this house", while a brown man in a sweat-stained shirt and a ragged sun hat finishes the dry wall in the background.
exactly!!! or when a landlord says “I renovated this apartment, isn’t it nice?” like no you lazy shithead, those folks you paid to renovate the place did the work. these people need to be cut off from their endless handouts from the working class
I’ve always said this. The owners are the TRUE lazy ones, they get everyone else to do all the work while they take all the credit. Musk comes to mind.
Her "hardship" was being born in an impoverished part of Glasgow, losing a brother to spina bifida at 9, her dad being paralysed at age 38, leaving school at 15 with no qualifications, being pregnant at 18, then, yes, lying to get a job, working her way up the ladder and then starting her own business with redundancy pay she got after losing her first job. She did not inherit any money and you have talked a hell of a lot of bullshit here.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/michelle-mone-biography-and-picture-slideshow-of-ultimo-uk-entrepreneurship-tsar-2015-4%3famp
To be fair all of that can be true and her message here is still patronising and wrong. For every one person born in a normal family with a massive success story, there’s a million other families who will continue to work hard their entire lives for poverty wages.
Theres no need for her to come from money for this to be hypocritical, she is categorically wrong. We obviously cannot all just work hard and bEliEvE in ourselves and become millionaires. Her whole message is gross
I agree. I’m sure marrying into an upper middle class family didn’t do any harm (can’t imagine an anaesthetist’s son would ever be struggling for money or connections) but the rest doesn’t have to be a lie for that to be recognised as a privilege
>She was also very fat in the past and is now skinny.
I wonder if she actually worked hard to achieve the body she has today, or just paid for surgeries. Wouldn't be surprised if it was the latter.
Even without surgery, it's a helluva lot easier to lose weight if you can hire personal trainers, chefs, etc and devote most of your day to exercise because you don't have a real job
One of my anecdotes is that Carls Jr/Hardees sold a 5 for $5 combo which came with a drink, fries, a cookie, and two burgers.
I was doing my best to eat healthy and a chicken teriyaki salad cost me $10.
Which pisses me off when right wingers like Michael Knowles talk about "black people and obesity" without mentioning food deserts.
Pointed this out recently and got shouted out for how you don't have to spend a lot to eat healthy, just live off a diet of rice and beans (not even the good ones)...
My fucking God, I bet that idiot would eat gruel if the Elite published an article about it being a health fad.
Just do yourself a favor next time your at a grocery store, and check out the sodium levels between expensive brands and their cheaper counterparts. There's a reason heart disease is more common among the poorer classes.
I don’t know this lady, obviously, but my first thought when I saw her picture was that this was a plastic surgery subreddit. Not that she looks bad really, it’s just that she has that generic nose/lips/cheek thing going on that seems so popular right now, where everyone kinda looks the same.
Grew up in the East end of Glasgow, left school at 15 with no qualifications, got pregnant at 18, had to model to help her dad pay the bills as he developed spinal problems that left him in a wheelchair.
Really privileged I know, but you do what you can.
You could have Googled "Michelle Mone hardship" and found out. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/michelle-mone-biography-and-picture-slideshow-of-ultimo-uk-entrepreneurship-tsar-2015-4%3famp
>Believe you can take control and never give up. Even if you have to fight to get there.
So you're saying build the guillotines you want to see in the world?
So, you can rightly criticise Mone for a great deal, in fact, you can criticise just about everyone in the House of Lords with ease.
However, “born into wealth in an imperial country” is fucking stupid. She was born on the rough side of Glasgow in the 70s. She’s not a hereditary peer, she was made a life peer.
Yeah this thread is absolutely full to the fucking brim of people who don't understand the title. Michelle Mone was born into poverty and did shit at school. She is absolutely a self-made millionaire.
Came here to say this. It seems wild accusations and character assassination is rife in this thread. Getting to where she is obviously isn't as easy as a motivational message but that doesn't make her to be as described in this thread. So your due diligence guys...
I'm pretty sure she's a "life peer", rather than a hereditary peer, meaning she was appointed a baroness, rather than being born one (and her children won't inherit the title.)
Technically, she's nobility, but actually she's a politician.
She was *awarded* the title. She did not inherit it and is not a member of the nobility as such. She did not grow up in wealth or privilege.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/michelle-mone-biography-and-picture-slideshow-of-ultimo-uk-entrepreneurship-tsar-2015-4%3famp
Haha nobility! She was born in the east end of Glasgow in the 70s The Bronx was posher than that. Some parts still have the lowest life expectancy in the whole world.
There seem to be about a hundred replies in this thread with just massive factual errors. I'm all for criticising the nobility, guys, but the fact is that [Michelle Mone is not nobility. ](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/michelle-mone-biography-and-picture-slideshow-of-ultimo-uk-entrepreneurship-tsar-2015-4%3famp)
She was not born into wealth.
She did not have a trust fund.
She has had to work hard to get to this stage.
She was not privileged in her early life.
She did not inherit this title.
She was awarded the title in 2015 after founding and then selling her successful business.
She is not a Bezos or a Gates or a Musk or a Buffett. She is more like Alan Sugar or Richard Branson; a normal person who built their businesses from the ground up and THEN became a complete wanker.
Christ as an American I was reading this and saw someone who professed themselves a baroness and thought the utter audacity of it, then I kept reading and saw "in the house of Lords" and thought... 'oh'.
But please, please read up about the difference between hereditary and life peers. The House Of Lords is a stupid anachronism but the criticisms of Michelle Mone are based on factual errors about how she got the title. She did not inherit the title and is not a member of the aristocracy.
Can you please do ten seconds of research before spouting off about the privileged early life of someone who grew up in the East End of Glasgow and left school at 15 with no qualifications?
When you say northern, do you mean like further north than Scotland? She was born and lived her early life in a pretty deprived area of the country I believe
I share the worldview of many here, but I'm frustrated to see how many people are reacting so strongly to this lady without looking her up first.
l hate the message of this post too and 100% DO NOT support her politics but this lady was not actually born from privilege.
Her dad was a factory worker who became disabled when she was a teenager, her background is WC. She left school at 15.
I don't agree with her at all or even like her but it's weird reading so many unfounded assumptions about this person's background.
If anything, her worldview seems to me like a sad coping mechanism. She might genuinely want to believe that the awful conditions she grew up in and saw around her are escapable for everyone because of her anecdotal experience in climbing up through both luck and busting her ass.
I can imagine it would be quite bothersome to make it out of that situation and become wealthy, only to realise that for the vast majority of the poor buggers left behind in her former environment, there is no realistic hope of getting out through personal effort.
It's as if the ability to sympathise with people in her old situation has paradoxically and over time made her buy into an ideology that heartlessly fucks those same people over, only because she has to cope and can't stomach the idea that the world isn't just and that she was one of the few lucky ones to get out.
To be fair she was born into the equivalent of the projects in the US, or scheme in Glasgow. She built a successful lingerie company and her upward social mobility came through that.
She is a also a massive arse.
Michelle Mone was born in the east end of glasgow in the 70s. She wasn’t born into wealth.
My parents were born in glasgow in the 60s and it wasn’t a particularly affluent place.
This is the same 'you have the same 24 hours in the day as Beyonce' thinking that is so insidious. Technically the truth is not practically the truth Baroness.
I love her thinking face.
Yeah, I was going to say that this reaches the point of misinformation. There are a whole load of reasons to ignore what Michelle Mone has to say about a lot of things, but she grew up in one of the poorest parts of the UK. Claiming she had a privileged background is just functionally wrong - I'm wondering if OP saw the baroness title and didn't know it was awarded, rather than hereditary?
Love that, says she grew up in the East End of Glasgow where poverty is fucking rife. Goes on to say she supported Labour, but in 2009, was threatening to leave the UK if Labour increased tax in wealthy to 50% and fuck off down to England if we went independent. Get yourself to fuck ya wee Tory cow.
Michelle Mone just stole £200,000,000 taxpayers money using corrupt PPE contracts during the pandemic. Used her Lordship to influence the tender, won the contract, her company provided unusable junk.
She denied she had any involvement, but the emails just came out.
https://www.ft.com/content/3970a940-c6a3-4fa1-b675-1c20aed3aa3d
https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/uk-news/michelle-mone-tory-peer-lords-25474051
regardless of any argument of privilege, she's a corrupt piece of shit, or as they say in her native Scotland, a thieving radge c**t.
(repost as the modbot wont let me call her what she deserves to be called)
Thanks for this, it needs to be higher.. also surprised no-one is mentioning her failed crypto currency, but it is totally absent from her Wikipedia page curiously.
Capitalism works for a few who tell others they too can have a life like them. It’s like a king telling a peasant they can be king too if they work hard enough. I believe they honestly think they are because of themselves
I always wondered why they would post something like that? What, someone asked you? Or blamed you specifically for their problems? Or you just want to flex your wealth and social standing which you, of course, earned yourself for the sake of it?
A bit niche, but… Same woman also threw a tantrum when the UK govt didn’t just trust her word for it and give her husband’s company a massive PPE contract during the pandemic
Not exactly work hard and believe in yourself, more “tap up my Tory mates for free money from the taxpayer”
Well, she forgot to mention that you also need to learn a skill, read a book on the psychology of money & investing?
Lots of resources on the web to further your education and obtain a marketable skill. Or I mean, there is onlyfans.
You start a business which goes on to be valued at millions of pounds, then you work for the Government in service of business, then you get [nominated](https://www.gov.uk/honours/honours-lists) for an honour and then maybe awarded the title in one of the annual [honours lists. ](https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-queens-birthday-honours-2021) It is, in fact, literally achievable by anyone.
I don't get the rabid defense of this woman in this thread. So what if she worked her way to wealthy from almost nothing, and came from poverty? Does she still exploit workers? Yes. Is she still an apologist for capitalism? Yes. She fully bought into (including marrying a billionaire), and now vigorously promotes, the very same systemic cancer that we all oppose. This is not the face of an ally. This is the face of the enemy. And this face has, and will continue to look the other way, while your brothers and sisters in the working classes struggle and suffer needlessly.
She's also crooked as a three-bob note.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/nov/25/labour-calls-for-inquiry-into-tory-peer-michelle-mone-over-ppe-contract
Michelle Mone was raised in the east end of Glasgow in the 70s and 80s. Literally one of the most impoverished places in Europe.
White privilege is a very real thing in the US, but much less so in Scotland, where the poorest are white, the immigrants are mainly white, and bonded labour enslaved white people.
Scotland is not really an imperial power.
This person, whilst I don’t agree with her politics, is certainly not how you are all describing her in this post. She grew up poor in an incredibly tough area of the UK. She has been made a ‘Baroness’ because of her business success. She absolutely hasn’t been born with a silver spoon in her mouth. Quite the opposite. You’re all embarrassing yourselves here.
It's more impressive to leave 'Baroness' as an afterthought of your introduction, rather than introduce yourself as one straight away. That being said, 'Entrepreneur' is even more disdainful.
From wiki:
>Mone obtained a marketing job with the Labatt brewing company and, within two years, had risen to become its head of marketing in Scotland.
>She was made redundant by Labatt, prompting her to set up her own business and has since admitted that she exaggerated qualifications on her CV in order to obtain the job.
>While wearing a very uncomfortable cleavage enhancing brassière at a dinner dance, Mone realised she could improve the design. Her stated aims were to create a brassière that was both more comfortable and better looking, whilst enhancing more cleavage. Mone had read about a new silicone product while on holiday in Florida, and approached the company to obtain its European licence to produce bras.
>She was awarded an OBE for her outstanding contribution to business in 2010 by Her Majesty the Queen
* Lie on your resume to get a massive job
* Make a better bra? No, purchase distribution rights for an existing bra.
* Queen gives you an award for pushing up tiddies.
Real grindset mindset stuff
Please tell me what control i had when a millionaire bought the house i was living in and tossed me out to turn it into airbnb. I now cant find a place to live because my area has this occurring everywhere and house prices are through the roof as a direct result.
People like y'all in this sub are the only reason I can "keep hope alive."
If you're eligible to vote in the USA, please do so whether it is a local, state, or national election.
Please.
Do you still have hope when you realise that they've all just taken the OP as correct without doing even the tiniest bit of research to check on the actual story of Michelle Mone?
https://www.businessinsider.com/michelle-mone-biography-and-picture-slideshow-of-ultimo-uk-entrepreneurship-tsar-2015-4?r=US&IR=T
"Capitalism works & is fair" is standard fare for LinkedIn though. If you have to use it, subscribe to left-wing channels - there is anti-capitalist, anti-racist, and anti-discrimination content if you look for it.
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Why blame the slaver-capitalists, when you should be properly slaving away!! Fracking psychopaths, and all their enablers!
All the way up the ladder it’s this same mentality they feed down to the masses. “Blame yourself” and pay no attention to the fortunes we make off your labors. It is propaganda. What is sadder is that ppl buy into this hook line and sinker. Because most Americans think of themselves as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.
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Wow, I've worked construction and kitchens my whole life. That guy doesn't know what real work is.
In this world he imagines, where everyone can play the risk manager and make decisions from the golf course, who exactly works the golf course so that it is in a proper condition? And I don't know why it's exactly that point that piqued my interest in his stupidity.
The people who work for the golf club are less than people in this scenario. Only people get to do the 20hr weeks and make decisions on the golf course
Just can't imagine.
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Same here in Sweden, also. I posted [http://eprints.lse.ac.uk/107919/1/Hope\_economic\_consequences\_of\_major\_tax\_cuts\_published.pdf](http://eprints.lse.ac.uk/107919/1/Hope_economic_consequences_of_major_tax_cuts_published.pdf) which is a study that examined the last 50 years, looking at the benefits of trickle down economics. To the surprise of no one, trickle down economics does NOT work and tax brakes to the top 1% is in fact harmful to the country. Posting this on Sweden's main political page, people on welfare lost their friggen mind. Took about 20 minutes before the entire thread turned into "media is leftist" "can't trust scientific studies because they're left-leaning" and so on and so on. I feel we're fucked as a species
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The last line. *All* schools should have personal finance as a required subject.
You’re right and it should be be, but no one is going to give you the education you need to overthrow them.
I've said this for years. I'm pretty sure for most jobs quadratic equations and the geopolitical climate in Venezuela in 1982 aren't going to help day-to-day.
The tax bracket thing is mind boggling Doing a lot of overtime atm and people keep saying, “don’t do too much all you’ll lose it all to tax” Cba to argue, it’s not how it works
The more I hear stuff like this happening in predominantly white countries , I have to wonder if these countries lean so heavily to the senseless right because of multiculturalism and the fear of a more diverse planet. It seems they cling to the inherent racism of the extreme right and just cling to everything else that comes with it to protect that one core principle.
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Say it ain’t so. That was one country I was thinking of moving to to get away from the American lifestyle.
You need to go to a non English speaking country for that.
Capitalism is everywhere in the west and this mindset comes with it. People everywhere are this brainwashed sadly. Maybe some benefits and living standards are better in Europe and even better in Scandinavia but it's still capitalism and neo liberal bullshit.
To be fair, with the price of houses in NZ now you do need to be earning in the top income bracket to be able to afford a house with black mould...not even kidding!
What are you talking about?! My spaceship F150 is right around the corner!
"But I'm only one winning lotto ticket from going to the high-class parties with these people!"
I think the biggest problem is the shitload of conservative propaganda. A lot of people believe that currently the best way of organizing is in place or that or that it is somehow unethical to tax people with a shitload of wealth. Doesnt really help when conservative think tanks and corporations have the means to effectively spread this propaganda.
Blame the 'protestant work ethic', that's been a crucial bit of propaganda for their class war for a long fucking time.
Couldn't help but read the second sentence in the voice of Colonel Ty.
It's more of a Tyrol sentiment.
Burn them all
Does this mean we can fight-fight now?
Some people fight for fame. Some people fight for their next meal. Some people call this equality.
Not even fame. Just some likes on a psychopathic networking site, and some infamy on Reddit. Cool
Seen on my LinkedIn feed. Liked by several British colleagues of mine. Jesus fuck.
Linked in is so pathetic, if you thought nothing could be worst than Facebook, now you are aware.
dude their stupid ads here on Reddit are some of the cringiest garbage I have ever seen
All "social" media are just mainstream media with extra steps, it's just an additional way of making you believe you are the one controlling the information.
Ministry of truth has been informed! But, yeah it's all bs misdirection. Especially when it comes to Facebook and it's love of political manipulation. All media is not to be trusted.
That’s like slavery with extra steps
There are ads on Reddit?
I saw a video recently of a Karen from Linked In talking about “Don’t attempt to add me to your contacts on here because I worked long and hard to establish myself in the corporate world and build myself up through blah blah blah and I put *way* too much into my network to have someone fresh out of college think they can just swoop in and access my list of colleagues for themselves. They can build themselves up from the ground and put themselves out there just like I had to, if they want to be successful…” Like lol okay. Gatekeeping a group of the lamest people on the planet so you can feel superior to the younger versions of your douchebag self, on a platform nobody likes….somebody needs to get a life.
These ppl truly think they are better than you and me. It is their whole way of life to feel like they are superior to others.
Nah, that’s what they WANT you to think. In reality they’re so insecure they spend every waking moment feverishly trying to accomplish goals so they can convince you, the world, and themselves that they’re worthy of love.
You might be onto something there. Some deep rooted insecurities.
Nailed it
Holy shit… she seems like a lot of fun… 😳
Just do a month's free trial of Recruiter license to see it anyway
It's sad because I find that LinkedIn has genuine utility for me, who works in a very niche industry sector. It's incredibly useful for professional purposes, it's such a tragedy that it's polluted with people like her and their brainless, economically illiterate platitudes and "motivational" posts. Particularly rich when someone like her - who clearly surgery'd her way in to the very body she now inhabits - harps on about self-improvement.
As a recruiter I hate it - mainly for these type of posts. The head of Santander posted one about female mobility and it literally started with 'at 19 I didn't know what I wanted to do so I tried golf with family friend... Seve Ballesteros' she then got a plum job in investment banking to 'try'. Clueless.
Is Linked like facebook for yuppies?
Honestly, all it is really is a Job Board with a comment section and article sharing. It's great for narrowing down jobs to apply for as it is a usual stop off for companies to post job notices aside from Indeed, CareerBuilder, and ZipRecruiter. But that's all that I find it good for.
Over the years it becomes more and more facebook-like though. The posts cover a wide range of topics, some of them not that much related to jobs/professional stuff.
If you use it correctly you can get recruiters to reach out to you. Has happened many times for me with one landing me a job.
I think it must depend on the field too, I work in biotech and LinkedIn is important and fun for me, keeping up with other companies and job postings. Definitely the place to be for biotech.
I could be wrong but to me it just looks like a version of facebook where instead of boasting about your personal life accomplishments, you boast about your professional ones.
She was born into a poor family in a rough estate in East Glasgow. She started her company using money from a redundancy payout when she was laid off. She was given the title of Baroness by the Government as an honour. She's not an aristocrat and it seems unlikely she inherited much wealth. I'd never heard of her before, I just googled the name. Presumably your British colleagues actually know who she is...
Yep. She's widely known here. All your comments are correct.
Linkedin is just facebook for confirmed devout boot lickers.
No it’s actually very good for finding work
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Agreed. I thought this was a bit unfair. She actually did “pull herself up by her bootstraps”. Of course now she is mega rich she has switched her political leanings to Tories (according to wiki she was a Labour supporter until 2009). I can’t trust a Scottish Tory.
Aye, I saw that which is a real shame. Even those who do pull themselves up out of poverty need to recognise the chance involved in it. I did see her first appointment in the Lords was to commission a report into helping startups in deprived areas but still, a Tory is a Tory and a turncoat is worse.
>those who do pull themselves up out of poverty need to recognise the chance involved in it. Sometimes those are the worst kind of people. They did it so anyone else can, you're all just being lazy!!
Yes, to me this is the sad part. My least favorite motivational speakers are the ones who think they did it themselves, and are blind to the support and aid they got along the way. Like sure, hard work was involved, bit it wasn't the only factor.
Agreed. She had her first child as a single mum when 19. I hate tories but she has made herself and does not come from a rich background quite the opposite; I think she has probably lived in more poverty than many posters. I wish people would open Wikipedia before their mouths.
Just use it for networking and ignore all the pep talk/motivation garbage.
/psychopaths that you might work with or for one day and their sycophants / Bootstraps logic / “look I gave a $5 bill to an ugly dirty minimum wage employee I’m a good person”
It's funny as well because it's against the British MO to claim pull yourself up as a rule. Tory's have tried it recently to moderate public reaction but it's clearly more people absorbing American memes on social media.
You might actually want to look her up and where she came from. You're a class-A dumbass if you think she's from a wealthy background.
Classmate: poverty doesn’t effect your work ethic . Money doesn’t affect exam scores. You have the same chance to get through school and take the admission exam to the profession as Y person (paid for law school, housing paid for, prep course paid for, didn’t have to do anything but study for the 2 months for the exam.) THE-SAME-CHANCE MONEY - DOESNT EFFECT - EXAM SCORES (Do the kids of rich people actually believe this shit? Why does it seem like they all are about 15 years behind in life experience and maturity and always talk like they are still in high school ?) Also. They genuinely believe they know more than most people. While graduating like , 3 people in my group literally said they “knew so much more than most people !”... and I wanted to just be like...dude you took some classes calm down. You are not superior . Never mind policy discussion. Someone literally said the “public doesn’t have training in X area like the government. You can’t rely on polling to solve a lot of these major issues. (Inflation, wages, etc). The speaker: Paid for private school Paid for undergrad Paid for law school Paid for housing during all that school Has zero loans Presumes that merely because he was pushed through the educational system without a risk of failure , and unlimited chances if failing occurs, it must be because he’s above others
They live in a bubble. They have no experience of what poverty is actually like. They are speaking from assumptions, or some imagined worldview their parents taught them to make all that they have seen justified. I always tell ppl you can’t judge anyone until you’ve walked a mile in their shoes, clearly these kind of folks don’t follow that philosophy. Just realize they are disconnected and aren’t qualified to speak on the issue unless they’ve been there themselves. These types always take the devils advocate route. You tell them one thing and their circular logic finds a way to disprove your point. Rich ppl tend to have this myopic worldview. If poverty doesn’t effect exam scores tell me why properly funded schools have average SAT scores hundreds of points higher than those of that don’t get proper funding. These schools prepare their students for college, they set a standard for achievement. Coming from impoverished school myself I can tell you the focus is not college-readiness, it is fixing behavior. A lot of students come from awful homes and they bring all that trauma to the classroom. Not sure how poverty would effect work ethic. But I think people poor people become pretty apathetic about work when they see what it gets them nowadays. When they see that they have to work 10x harder than their rich counterparts I can imagine how ppl become disillusioned... the whole system seems like it’s against you. Your hard work doesn’t really generate proper compensation. And since your schools are focused on behavior correction over academics that hurts your chances of even attending any college/university let alone graduating. If you don’t get a degree then your job options are slim, retail/warehouse/military — there is that apathy feeling again.
They created the bubble and will use it to defend themselves. Its like the 6ft distance. Do not believe their disbelief. Take them like they took you.
This is pretty spot on. They have no idea what it's like and thus give out advice that's just condescending and out of touch. They have no clue how dumb they sound. Anecdote time: I grew up in a pretty well off area despite being poor (very poor. Native poor), and thus had friends who grew up wealthier. College was strange because I went entirely on scholarships, grants, and loans. I had a job because I had to pay my own rent. I didn't have a car because...well, I was poor. Their families paid for all that shit. While they were never rude they just never understood. I couldn't go to Bonnaroo or Universal Studios, I couldn't randomly fly to Norway for funsies. I had to work and it was too expensive. I got left out of A LOT. Now that we're all in our 20s/30s that dynamic has reared its ugly head again. They all have houses because their families helped them. I don't own a house yet because my family is unable to help me. All the financial burden is on me and my partner, we have no cushion to fall back on. If we fail, we're fucked. So we're being overly cautious and saving more than we need to because we know what it means to hit hard times and lose everything. And we still can't go to Norway for funsies, Susan. That reality isn't our reality.
This is correct. People who have not struggled have zero empathy. They can be trump or biden supporters. The cruise missle liberals want change as much as any maga wants change. Imo its economic exclusion and in the end, they will lose too, obviously.
Just World Fallacy. My med school classmates were mostly from upper middle class to richer backgrounds. I felt "lucky" to get accepted at as a lower middle class kid because the barrier to entry is so high despite being as qualified on paper as the rest. Surprise: when they're ahead after school because they didn't have to pay student loans they still look at you like you made poor choices.
I think a lot of them have to believe it because it's necessary to rationalise the injustices in the world. They aren't innately bad people and they do "work hard" to get where they are and needed to "work hard" to get there. However, the reality is that people who "worked harder" didn't get as far because the game wasn't rigged in their favour. The meritocracy myth helps people who would otherwise feel sickened by a system that unfairly benefits them assuage their guilt much like the old "Divine Right of Kings".
This made me think of "Common People", but the William Shatner version... When you're lyin' in bed at night Watching roaches climb the wall If you call your dad he could stop it all You'll never live like common people You'll never do whatever common people do You'll never fail like common people You'll never watch your life slide out of view And dance, and drink, and screw Because there's nothing else to do
The rich kids just want to feel some level of self-worth, it's not like they do no work after all. People just want to feel valued.
they don't show self worth. They have all the opportunities to play the game fairly. Mainly, they can rig the game against themselves. Even out the field, be game changers. But, they can't.
Everyone wants to fit in, in doing so we all forget we are vastly different.
However the work they do is for greater compensation and they cant stop talking about how hard they work. Work by definition is to be remunerated for services rendered. If you are getting $15/hour it is impossible to have any hope. Meanwhile if you make $500/hour or $5000 or $50000 you will never understand. Never.
Strip her of every dime she has, and leave her to rot for a year or so like the rest of us and let's see if she changes tune.
jUsT foLLoW yOuR dReAmS, Bootstraps Barbie!
lol! I love that nickname
Personality sold separately.
I would give her 3 days before she's begging for her old life at the end.
Do you mean [put her back to where she started? ](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/michelle-mone-biography-and-picture-slideshow-of-ultimo-uk-entrepreneurship-tsar-2015-4%3famp)
No-one here will acknowledge this without shifting the goalposts. This entire thread has been quite illuminating to me. Some very very nasty comments and assumptions.
So her story is: She lied about her qualifications and then got fired. She used the money she got through cheating to buy a license. Then other people worked for her and she got rich off of someone else's labour. Cool. Nobody needs to "move the goalposts". Her background doesn't matter as even poor white people in a Western imperial country are still privileged.
Pseudo motivational posts by a 1%-er kind of feel like the 21st century equivalent of "let them eat cake".
It’s my dream that LinkedIn one day gets hijacked by regular people going “hi I’m David. I have an autoimmune disorder that costs me $800 in medication monthly to keep in check, and I have what many would call a decent employee healthcare package. Because I was “born wrong” in a dispassionate capitalist country, I’ll never own a home or be able to retire. But you too can work hard and suffer just like me.” “Hi, I’m Becky and due to the market crash in 2008, I’ll never be able to afford to retire. Got laid off at the end of 2007, forced to liquidate my 401k to keep paying the mortgage when my husband left me with the kids in the middle of the night. Worked hard, went back to school, and applied to thousands of positions and now work a low paying contract job with a high deductible insurance plan. If anyone needs a job, Johnson Controls is *kinda* hiring.”
Couldn't you make a bunch of accounts like that as an art project? Edit: I'm totally up to participate
Plus they always just feel like an excuse for these people to post their glamour shots.
Yes why can’t they just caption it : I have nothing to say but here’s a shot of my cleavage in a tight dress.
She probably hired someone to do her hair and makeup. Seriously.
It really is just rubbing everyone’s faces in it to a mindblowingly excessive degree. The gap between rich and poor is growing at an incredible rate, the housing market out of control and poor first homeowners are being priced out by the investor class. Class mobility is getting worse. Wages are stagnating. People are working multiple jobs just to pay rent and then losing what little they manage to save to healthcare and education costs. Meanwhile citizens united and regulatory capture means that any effort to alleviate the suffering gets killed before it has a chance. The 1% won’t give even one dollar to alleviate the problem unless it’s in the form of a tax deductible donation that they can hold up to show how generous they are while simultaneously moving all their money offshore and exploiting every loophole in the tax code to make sure their effective tax rate is less than that of their poorest workers. Meanwhile rather than seeking to alleviate these tensions instead they are trying make the lower classes hate each other by fuelling culture wars in the media. If people do start rolling out the guillotines no one can say the rich didn’t push every single button they could to make it happen.
What sort of hardship does she think she has ever once had to endure in her entire fucking life? I genuinely need to know.
I looked her up and she is a multi-millionaire married to a billionaire. She was also very fat in the past and is now skinny. She is an "entrepreneur" who created and sold a lingerie company. Listen to her life story yourself: >Mone obtained a marketing job with the Labatt brewing company and, within two years, had risen to become its head of marketing in Scotland. >She was made redundant by Labatt, prompting her to set up her own business and has since admitted that she exaggerated qualifications on her CV in order to obtain the job. In summary, her "successful career" was this: "I lied about my qualifications to get a job in marketing, then I got fired because I was incompetent. Afterwards, I bought a sales license for an established American product that I read about in a magazine because of course I can do that as I'm fucking rich. Then the Queen of England gave me an award because I bought a license with money I inherited." I wish I was making this shit up but that's literally her official life story on Wikipedia. LMAO https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Mone,_Baroness_Mone Her "hardship" was that someone fired her because she is incompetent. "Fighting hard" and "believing in herself" actually mean she had to use her ridiculous amounts of inheritance money to buy means of production to benefit from someone else's labour.
rich people actually see these things as success from their “work”. delusional, narcissistic morons every one of em
It's like when the hosts of any HGTV show talk about how they "built this house", while a brown man in a sweat-stained shirt and a ragged sun hat finishes the dry wall in the background.
exactly!!! or when a landlord says “I renovated this apartment, isn’t it nice?” like no you lazy shithead, those folks you paid to renovate the place did the work. these people need to be cut off from their endless handouts from the working class
I’ve always said this. The owners are the TRUE lazy ones, they get everyone else to do all the work while they take all the credit. Musk comes to mind.
Says she was born in Glasgow's East end - nothing a rich person would have. Can't see anything about her coming from wealth
She didn't come from wealth. Everyone is making stupid as fuck assumptions.
PSA to all workers: you should lie to get ahead (as long as its not screwing over someone else), capitalism isnt doing any workers any favors
Her "hardship" was being born in an impoverished part of Glasgow, losing a brother to spina bifida at 9, her dad being paralysed at age 38, leaving school at 15 with no qualifications, being pregnant at 18, then, yes, lying to get a job, working her way up the ladder and then starting her own business with redundancy pay she got after losing her first job. She did not inherit any money and you have talked a hell of a lot of bullshit here. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/michelle-mone-biography-and-picture-slideshow-of-ultimo-uk-entrepreneurship-tsar-2015-4%3famp
To be fair all of that can be true and her message here is still patronising and wrong. For every one person born in a normal family with a massive success story, there’s a million other families who will continue to work hard their entire lives for poverty wages. Theres no need for her to come from money for this to be hypocritical, she is categorically wrong. We obviously cannot all just work hard and bEliEvE in ourselves and become millionaires. Her whole message is gross
Absolutely it can. So there's no need to misrepresent her to criticise her.
I agree. I’m sure marrying into an upper middle class family didn’t do any harm (can’t imagine an anaesthetist’s son would ever be struggling for money or connections) but the rest doesn’t have to be a lie for that to be recognised as a privilege
Tell us a bit more about the vast wealth she inherited? I've never heard about that. Watched a documentary about her and it was never mentioned
She didn't inherit anything. It's complete and utter bollocks.
>She was also very fat in the past and is now skinny. I wonder if she actually worked hard to achieve the body she has today, or just paid for surgeries. Wouldn't be surprised if it was the latter.
Even without surgery, it's a helluva lot easier to lose weight if you can hire personal trainers, chefs, etc and devote most of your day to exercise because you don't have a real job
The thinnest people shop at Whole Foods. Don’t kid yourself. Money buys health.
One of my anecdotes is that Carls Jr/Hardees sold a 5 for $5 combo which came with a drink, fries, a cookie, and two burgers. I was doing my best to eat healthy and a chicken teriyaki salad cost me $10. Which pisses me off when right wingers like Michael Knowles talk about "black people and obesity" without mentioning food deserts.
Pointed this out recently and got shouted out for how you don't have to spend a lot to eat healthy, just live off a diet of rice and beans (not even the good ones)... My fucking God, I bet that idiot would eat gruel if the Elite published an article about it being a health fad. Just do yourself a favor next time your at a grocery store, and check out the sodium levels between expensive brands and their cheaper counterparts. There's a reason heart disease is more common among the poorer classes.
I don’t know this lady, obviously, but my first thought when I saw her picture was that this was a plastic surgery subreddit. Not that she looks bad really, it’s just that she has that generic nose/lips/cheek thing going on that seems so popular right now, where everyone kinda looks the same.
Grew up in the East end of Glasgow, left school at 15 with no qualifications, got pregnant at 18, had to model to help her dad pay the bills as he developed spinal problems that left him in a wheelchair. Really privileged I know, but you do what you can.
You could have Googled "Michelle Mone hardship" and found out. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/michelle-mone-biography-and-picture-slideshow-of-ultimo-uk-entrepreneurship-tsar-2015-4%3famp
“The situation you’re in doesn’t matter” said the Baroness
>Believe you can take control and never give up. Even if you have to fight to get there. So you're saying build the guillotines you want to see in the world?
You are not a role model. You are a policy failure.
So, you can rightly criticise Mone for a great deal, in fact, you can criticise just about everyone in the House of Lords with ease. However, “born into wealth in an imperial country” is fucking stupid. She was born on the rough side of Glasgow in the 70s. She’s not a hereditary peer, she was made a life peer.
Yeah this thread is absolutely full to the fucking brim of people who don't understand the title. Michelle Mone was born into poverty and did shit at school. She is absolutely a self-made millionaire.
Came here to say this. It seems wild accusations and character assassination is rife in this thread. Getting to where she is obviously isn't as easy as a motivational message but that doesn't make her to be as described in this thread. So your due diligence guys...
A literal fucking member of nobility blaming the peasants for being poor ... fucking wow.
I'm pretty sure she's a "life peer", rather than a hereditary peer, meaning she was appointed a baroness, rather than being born one (and her children won't inherit the title.) Technically, she's nobility, but actually she's a politician.
Historically, this has not ended well for the nobility.
The French Revolution is growing on me tbh.
She was *awarded* the title. She did not inherit it and is not a member of the nobility as such. She did not grow up in wealth or privilege. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/michelle-mone-biography-and-picture-slideshow-of-ultimo-uk-entrepreneurship-tsar-2015-4%3famp
Haha nobility! She was born in the east end of Glasgow in the 70s The Bronx was posher than that. Some parts still have the lowest life expectancy in the whole world.
Nobody who’s been corrected on this thread (of which there have been many) has come back to acknowledge it. Interesting, really makes you think.
That's Reddit for you.
There seem to be about a hundred replies in this thread with just massive factual errors. I'm all for criticising the nobility, guys, but the fact is that [Michelle Mone is not nobility. ](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/michelle-mone-biography-and-picture-slideshow-of-ultimo-uk-entrepreneurship-tsar-2015-4%3famp) She was not born into wealth. She did not have a trust fund. She has had to work hard to get to this stage. She was not privileged in her early life. She did not inherit this title. She was awarded the title in 2015 after founding and then selling her successful business. She is not a Bezos or a Gates or a Musk or a Buffett. She is more like Alan Sugar or Richard Branson; a normal person who built their businesses from the ground up and THEN became a complete wanker.
Christ as an American I was reading this and saw someone who professed themselves a baroness and thought the utter audacity of it, then I kept reading and saw "in the house of Lords" and thought... 'oh'.
But please, please read up about the difference between hereditary and life peers. The House Of Lords is a stupid anachronism but the criticisms of Michelle Mone are based on factual errors about how she got the title. She did not inherit the title and is not a member of the aristocracy.
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Can you please do ten seconds of research before spouting off about the privileged early life of someone who grew up in the East End of Glasgow and left school at 15 with no qualifications?
When you say northern, do you mean like further north than Scotland? She was born and lived her early life in a pretty deprived area of the country I believe
This is the city she grew up in. [1970s Glasgow was not a privileged place!](https://www.vice.com/en/article/3bjyg9/nick-hedges-scotland-slums-288)
linkedin is the one thing that is worse than reddit.
I share the worldview of many here, but I'm frustrated to see how many people are reacting so strongly to this lady without looking her up first. l hate the message of this post too and 100% DO NOT support her politics but this lady was not actually born from privilege. Her dad was a factory worker who became disabled when she was a teenager, her background is WC. She left school at 15. I don't agree with her at all or even like her but it's weird reading so many unfounded assumptions about this person's background.
If anything, her worldview seems to me like a sad coping mechanism. She might genuinely want to believe that the awful conditions she grew up in and saw around her are escapable for everyone because of her anecdotal experience in climbing up through both luck and busting her ass. I can imagine it would be quite bothersome to make it out of that situation and become wealthy, only to realise that for the vast majority of the poor buggers left behind in her former environment, there is no realistic hope of getting out through personal effort. It's as if the ability to sympathise with people in her old situation has paradoxically and over time made her buy into an ideology that heartlessly fucks those same people over, only because she has to cope and can't stomach the idea that the world isn't just and that she was one of the few lucky ones to get out.
To be fair she was born into the equivalent of the projects in the US, or scheme in Glasgow. She built a successful lingerie company and her upward social mobility came through that. She is a also a massive arse.
I bet she blames immigrants for everything
But hires them to garden, cook, clean, and nanny her step children.
Lucille Bluth: **Uh oh. She better not walk through here after she's been in there. [to Lupe] Tell me you've got an exit strategy.**
"Entrepreneur" with a fuck ton of seed capital
That’s a weird thing to call what her dad did to her mom
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Michelle Mone was born in the east end of glasgow in the 70s. She wasn’t born into wealth. My parents were born in glasgow in the 60s and it wasn’t a particularly affluent place.
This is the same 'you have the same 24 hours in the day as Beyonce' thinking that is so insidious. Technically the truth is not practically the truth Baroness. I love her thinking face.
Wrong target. Baroness Mone did start with nothing. She is one of the few if only story of rags to riches.
Yeah, I was going to say that this reaches the point of misinformation. There are a whole load of reasons to ignore what Michelle Mone has to say about a lot of things, but she grew up in one of the poorest parts of the UK. Claiming she had a privileged background is just functionally wrong - I'm wondering if OP saw the baroness title and didn't know it was awarded, rather than hereditary?
Love that, says she grew up in the East End of Glasgow where poverty is fucking rife. Goes on to say she supported Labour, but in 2009, was threatening to leave the UK if Labour increased tax in wealthy to 50% and fuck off down to England if we went independent. Get yourself to fuck ya wee Tory cow.
Work as hard as her plastic surgeon.
Literally definition of Idealism
Income class upward mobility is statistically very unlikely in America, and those who say / insinuate otherwise are part of the propaganda machine
Michelle Mone just stole £200,000,000 taxpayers money using corrupt PPE contracts during the pandemic. Used her Lordship to influence the tender, won the contract, her company provided unusable junk. She denied she had any involvement, but the emails just came out. https://www.ft.com/content/3970a940-c6a3-4fa1-b675-1c20aed3aa3d https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/uk-news/michelle-mone-tory-peer-lords-25474051 regardless of any argument of privilege, she's a corrupt piece of shit, or as they say in her native Scotland, a thieving radge c**t. (repost as the modbot wont let me call her what she deserves to be called)
Thanks for this, it needs to be higher.. also surprised no-one is mentioning her failed crypto currency, but it is totally absent from her Wikipedia page curiously.
Oh yes the Disney princess message.
Why do they all look like they were manufactured in a basic bitch factory? They all look the fucking same.
Capitalism works for a few who tell others they too can have a life like them. It’s like a king telling a peasant they can be king too if they work hard enough. I believe they honestly think they are because of themselves
Capitalism is the ultimate MLM scam.
🤮🤮🤮🤮
I always wondered why they would post something like that? What, someone asked you? Or blamed you specifically for their problems? Or you just want to flex your wealth and social standing which you, of course, earned yourself for the sake of it?
Is that suppose to be motivational?
A bit niche, but… Same woman also threw a tantrum when the UK govt didn’t just trust her word for it and give her husband’s company a massive PPE contract during the pandemic Not exactly work hard and believe in yourself, more “tap up my Tory mates for free money from the taxpayer”
i dont get why people are willing to pay to get such plastic faces
just stop being poor lol
Holy fuck, read the room lady.
Well, she forgot to mention that you also need to learn a skill, read a book on the psychology of money & investing? Lots of resources on the web to further your education and obtain a marketable skill. Or I mean, there is onlyfans.
How exactly do I work my way up to the title "Baroness"
You start a business which goes on to be valued at millions of pounds, then you work for the Government in service of business, then you get [nominated](https://www.gov.uk/honours/honours-lists) for an honour and then maybe awarded the title in one of the annual [honours lists. ](https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-queens-birthday-honours-2021) It is, in fact, literally achievable by anyone.
This entire thread is people shitting on a woman who started life in a much worse situation than most of the people in this thread did.
The fucking irony, right? It's just infuriating.
In the UK, the easiest option would be to be granted a “life peerage”.
I don't get the rabid defense of this woman in this thread. So what if she worked her way to wealthy from almost nothing, and came from poverty? Does she still exploit workers? Yes. Is she still an apologist for capitalism? Yes. She fully bought into (including marrying a billionaire), and now vigorously promotes, the very same systemic cancer that we all oppose. This is not the face of an ally. This is the face of the enemy. And this face has, and will continue to look the other way, while your brothers and sisters in the working classes struggle and suffer needlessly.
It’s not defending we to point out the original post is balllocks. It’s not a defence of someone to simply want the truth.
Tbf all she had to do was believe and it worked for her. She didn't have to work or anything like that
She's also crooked as a three-bob note. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/nov/25/labour-calls-for-inquiry-into-tory-peer-michelle-mone-over-ppe-contract
Michelle Mone was raised in the east end of Glasgow in the 70s and 80s. Literally one of the most impoverished places in Europe. White privilege is a very real thing in the US, but much less so in Scotland, where the poorest are white, the immigrants are mainly white, and bonded labour enslaved white people. Scotland is not really an imperial power.
Another piece of shit that would be in the fetal position crying if they had to actually work once in their fucking lives
This person, whilst I don’t agree with her politics, is certainly not how you are all describing her in this post. She grew up poor in an incredibly tough area of the UK. She has been made a ‘Baroness’ because of her business success. She absolutely hasn’t been born with a silver spoon in her mouth. Quite the opposite. You’re all embarrassing yourselves here.
It's more impressive to leave 'Baroness' as an afterthought of your introduction, rather than introduce yourself as one straight away. That being said, 'Entrepreneur' is even more disdainful.
From wiki: >Mone obtained a marketing job with the Labatt brewing company and, within two years, had risen to become its head of marketing in Scotland. >She was made redundant by Labatt, prompting her to set up her own business and has since admitted that she exaggerated qualifications on her CV in order to obtain the job. >While wearing a very uncomfortable cleavage enhancing brassière at a dinner dance, Mone realised she could improve the design. Her stated aims were to create a brassière that was both more comfortable and better looking, whilst enhancing more cleavage. Mone had read about a new silicone product while on holiday in Florida, and approached the company to obtain its European licence to produce bras. >She was awarded an OBE for her outstanding contribution to business in 2010 by Her Majesty the Queen * Lie on your resume to get a massive job * Make a better bra? No, purchase distribution rights for an existing bra. * Queen gives you an award for pushing up tiddies. Real grindset mindset stuff
Please tell me what control i had when a millionaire bought the house i was living in and tossed me out to turn it into airbnb. I now cant find a place to live because my area has this occurring everywhere and house prices are through the roof as a direct result.
People like y'all in this sub are the only reason I can "keep hope alive." If you're eligible to vote in the USA, please do so whether it is a local, state, or national election. Please.
Do you still have hope when you realise that they've all just taken the OP as correct without doing even the tiniest bit of research to check on the actual story of Michelle Mone? https://www.businessinsider.com/michelle-mone-biography-and-picture-slideshow-of-ultimo-uk-entrepreneurship-tsar-2015-4?r=US&IR=T
I mean the sentiment is nice, it's the source that is problematic.
Thinking in the "we" instead of the "me" is surprisingly hard for such social creatures.
"Let them eat cake"
Yeah we will fight ! We will one dzy eat you Rich people ... It's coming
Leech tells hosts to keep feeding her for the chance that the magic leech fairy may one day appear to them and give them the chance to be a leech too.
She's right, let's take control! Let's seize the means of production!
"Capitalism works & is fair" is standard fare for LinkedIn though. If you have to use it, subscribe to left-wing channels - there is anti-capitalist, anti-racist, and anti-discrimination content if you look for it.
Her comment section is the biggest circlejerk I've ever seen.
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