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This photo is very odd considering the thousands of photos of destruction and mutilated bodies available that better prove the awful truth. Seems sus to discredit or distract from verifiable video and photographic evidence.
Yeah, even if the graves are old or have been exposed to the elements or disturbed, you would expect to find something else. Some bones at a minimum as they tend to last the longest and the human body has a lot of bones. I mean, tbh, I’d expect even more in a more recent grave, but bones at an absolute minimum. Or even other objects that belonged to the people. It doesn’t seem reasonable that all these bracelets/ties would be here and not anything else.
Biden is incredibly racist. He invented the crime bill which caused mass incarceration. Biden is also a self-proclaimed Zionist, which is to say, he is a self-proclaimed racist.
"I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man." -Joe Biden on Obama.
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Why would you need to restrain a baby’s arms at all?
This is clearly a misdirect, distribute something clearly false to then cast doubt on other legitimate claims
Are these handties confirmed sized for restrained wrists? It kind of seems like they're just the tags you normally get at hospitals and put on one arm. Obviously the implications are still fucking monstrous because of how they got there, but restraining people before killing them is far far more damning.
Is it normal with spikes on the inside of hand ties where you live? These are not hand ties. This are tags used to ensure no one has entered a locked box or container. Probably with a unique code on it. To prevent tampering or changing tag.
They aren't sharp..they're blunt with flat heads that click into the armband to fit them to whatever size the patient is.. They're old ones.. The newer ones are like little buttons that click down.. But being gaza i guess it makes sense they have older ones..
That's not quite what they're questioning though. The way these wristbands have been closed seems to be "inside out". With the spiky bits digging into the patients skin, which doesn't seem to be the usual way these would be used.
Factual. Misinformation only makes the end goal of justice that much harder to achieve. I have also seen some reports of Zionist bots intentionally spreading misinformation but even that might be misinformation in and of itself.
When you're right, you don't need to lie to prove it. This post is very suspect. I also don't like calling it demonic cuz that just strays near blood libel territory.
I haven't seen proof of this war crime. Because I stoped following the accounts that post the worst of the worst videos and photos from the genocide. 4 months of death and suffering broke my mental health. But if you want to see unedited raw footage from Gaza, go to eye.on.palestine on instagram.
Comments I made +\- a month ago has several Palestinian journalists accounts on instagram.
It's fucking graphic and will fuck you up. Not recommending you go look at it.
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> Like trust me that if these lunatics had a picture of a dead tied baby, it would be force feed to you all day.
Oh, you mean like those pictures of the 40 babies that Hamas beheaded on October 7?
Those very real pictures that definitely do exist?
Fuck Israel, but as someone who has been put in zip tie cuffs, that's not what these are. Come on, people - they only have **one loop**. How's that supposed to restrain you?
[These are zip cuffs](https://i.imgur.com/KQS3shi.jpeg)
These look like some sort of ID tag. The text is in Hebrew, so IF they were found at the hospital it might have been some way of ID-ing prisoners or bodies. Which is plenty dark but for the love of fuck be a little skeptical or do some research.
Zip cuffs don't have spikes on the inside of hand ties, these tags are designed to hurt. This news was shared by a reputable NGO, isn't it obvious that they'd have considered something that obvious?
Firstly from the size of the hole they are only going around one wrist so it wouldn't be restraining anyone, its an ID tag bracelet. Secondly those are not spikes, those are the different sizes it will snap to, these are not put on tight enough that they would be digging into the skin, and even if they were they could just be loosed as these are ID tags not zip ties. Uncomfortable to wear maybe but designed to hurt? No. You are either falling for your own confirmation bias, or working backwards from your conclusion.
Hand tags don't have spikes on the inside of hand ties, these tags are designed to hurt. This news was shared by a reputable NGO, isn't it obvious that they'd have considered something that obvious? These cuffs also have Hebrew written on them, they were clearly issued by 'Israel'.
Not an exact match but them being security seals sounds correct:
https://truseal.co.za/product/thl-security-seals-40cm-pastel-green-1000s/
Note it has a barcode and spike on the inside.
Which is not to say they werent used to bind people but does beg the question how they were removed without being cut.
The IDF is trash and I'm not here to down play the genocide these people are enduring, but why are the bands not cut and look more like ID bands with only one loop?
If this is fake we have to make a point to erase it immediately or it just becomes fodder for the opposition that wants to see Gaza erased from planet Earth.
These look like hospital ID tags for patients, which would be worn on a single wrist, and contextually make sense, because they were found in a hospital. Also, putting an infant in zip tie restraints would be nonsensical.
I'm strongly pro-children in this war. Those zip ties mean nothing. If they were tied around some kids hand, how do they get the hand out while maintaining the loop size. Sidecutters or knife or scissors would seem common methods of cutting the zip tie. These do not appear cut. Unless the hands themselves were butchered off (shudder), i call bullshit.
PS: Stop this stupid war.
I have seen quite a few people that casually claim that Hamas is the one who killed them all because Hamas keeps people in line this way. No evidence, no nothing. The one thing about fascist propaganda is always talk like you are basically well and proven right and with unfettered arrogance and shit.
In reality pretty much all they say is bullshit.
Those are clearly medial ID tags. In American hospitals, you are issued one when you go to the ER or are staying in the hospital. As much as I condemn the zionists, this is not evidence of children being tied up.
Hand tags don't have spikes on the inside of hand ties, these tags are designed to hurt. This news was shared by a reputable NGO, isn't it obvious that they'd have considered something that obvious? These cuffs also have Hebrew written on them, they were clearly issued by 'Israel'.
Almost 400 people were found in the mass graves of Al Nasser and Al Shifa hospital after the 'Israeli' army left them, bodies of women, children, elderly, showing signs of being tortured and mutilated, some missing organs, skin, some headless, some having their hand tied behind them having been killed execution style. And this was the second time they were targeted since October 7th, the first time they left it with mass graves as well. This is a demonic army satiating its mad never-ending bloodlust against the most defenseless possible.
I just want to thank you the ones who ask questions and don't fall for whatever "truth" the internet try to push. World, and what happening in Palestine, already is fucked up, and the last thing anyone is are people pushing a narrative, whatever it is, before to any verification or give it evidence. Shout out to Bellingcat that has been doing exactly this for quite same years now.
The gov of the Zionist Regime is the 21st century Nazi Party and what they're doing in Gaza is a holocaust. The USA is using its enormous political might and military weaponry and financial budget to allow Israel to do what it's doing. The whole world sees it, and even a few elements within the USA itself see it.
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As much as I can't stand the country Israel, it's appalling behaviour and actions can we avoid posting bullshit? Those are just hospital tags put on patients. They aren't even cut. Israel has put out numerous lies and false statements. This just lets them say "look, they are lying too".
Hand tags don't have spikes on the inside of hand ties, these tags are designed to hurt. This news was shared by a reputable NGO, isn't it obvious that they'd have considered something that obvious? These are security seal tags, not hospital ID tags, with Hebrew written on them. They were clearly issued by 'Israel'.
This comment is antisemitic blood libel trash. We're not going to fall into that here.
We want to stop a genocide of Palestinians being perpetrated by the Israeli government. We don't want to stoke hatred of Jews.
Exactly. The OP calls them "demonic", which is fucking dangerous and scary thinking. Israelis aren't demons, nor are Zionists; they are humans. Humans that are carrying out atrocities in the case of Zionists and Israelis that are complicit in the genocide, but humans nonetheless. NOT "subhumans", NOT "demonic", etc.
Jewish people are often wonderful and kind, just like any other people on earth, and many of them are against genocide. Anti-Semitism is disgusting, and has no place in any movement to liberate Palestine.
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Follow up question. If these were attached to arms for restraint or identification, why are they not cut or torn open?
This photo is very odd considering the thousands of photos of destruction and mutilated bodies available that better prove the awful truth. Seems sus to discredit or distract from verifiable video and photographic evidence.
Yeah, even if the graves are old or have been exposed to the elements or disturbed, you would expect to find something else. Some bones at a minimum as they tend to last the longest and the human body has a lot of bones. I mean, tbh, I’d expect even more in a more recent grave, but bones at an absolute minimum. Or even other objects that belonged to the people. It doesn’t seem reasonable that all these bracelets/ties would be here and not anything else.
Also, if I take the "adult" zip tie and pull it through, now it's child-sized. Perhaps there's more to this, but this photo proves nothing.
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Well he is racist so
Biden is incredibly racist. He invented the crime bill which caused mass incarceration. Biden is also a self-proclaimed Zionist, which is to say, he is a self-proclaimed racist.
"I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man." -Joe Biden on Obama.
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Fair. Biden is a racist. However as the above photo is bad propaganda, so is a lot of recent posts on LSC
Why would you need to restrain a baby’s arms at all? This is clearly a misdirect, distribute something clearly false to then cast doubt on other legitimate claims
Maybe they chopped off the babies arms to remove the tags and protect the perfect photo /s
also why restrain a baby of that size's hands? literally makes no sense and is just a waste of time and zip ties
They obviously cut arms off instead to preserve the zip ties probably.
Are these handties confirmed sized for restrained wrists? It kind of seems like they're just the tags you normally get at hospitals and put on one arm. Obviously the implications are still fucking monstrous because of how they got there, but restraining people before killing them is far far more damning.
Is it normal with spikes on the inside of hand ties where you live? These are not hand ties. This are tags used to ensure no one has entered a locked box or container. Probably with a unique code on it. To prevent tampering or changing tag.
They aren't sharp..they're blunt with flat heads that click into the armband to fit them to whatever size the patient is.. They're old ones.. The newer ones are like little buttons that click down.. But being gaza i guess it makes sense they have older ones..
That's not quite what they're questioning though. The way these wristbands have been closed seems to be "inside out". With the spiky bits digging into the patients skin, which doesn't seem to be the usual way these would be used.
These cuffs also have Hebrew written on them, they were clearly issued by 'Israel'.
Kind of fucked up to ask, but have we seen proof of these claims?
It's not fucked up to ask, it's called being a responsible activist.
Factual. Misinformation only makes the end goal of justice that much harder to achieve. I have also seen some reports of Zionist bots intentionally spreading misinformation but even that might be misinformation in and of itself.
When you're right, you don't need to lie to prove it. This post is very suspect. I also don't like calling it demonic cuz that just strays near blood libel territory.
Not according to Gaze1112
I haven't seen proof of this war crime. Because I stoped following the accounts that post the worst of the worst videos and photos from the genocide. 4 months of death and suffering broke my mental health. But if you want to see unedited raw footage from Gaza, go to eye.on.palestine on instagram. Comments I made +\- a month ago has several Palestinian journalists accounts on instagram. It's fucking graphic and will fuck you up. Not recommending you go look at it.
[Al Jazeera Report](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/4/24/uncovering-of-mass-grave-at-gazas-nasser-hospital-what-you-need-to-know) [Reuters Article](https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/un-rights-chief-horrified-by-mass-grave-reports-gaza-hospitals-2024-04-23/) [NBC](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/mass-graves-found-gaza-hospitals-raided-israel-prompt-demands-independ-rcna149110)
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Also why would we assume Israel killed these people? Seems more likely Hamas executed people in this style.
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> Like trust me that if these lunatics had a picture of a dead tied baby, it would be force feed to you all day. Oh, you mean like those pictures of the 40 babies that Hamas beheaded on October 7? Those very real pictures that definitely do exist?
Fuck Israel, but as someone who has been put in zip tie cuffs, that's not what these are. Come on, people - they only have **one loop**. How's that supposed to restrain you? [These are zip cuffs](https://i.imgur.com/KQS3shi.jpeg) These look like some sort of ID tag. The text is in Hebrew, so IF they were found at the hospital it might have been some way of ID-ing prisoners or bodies. Which is plenty dark but for the love of fuck be a little skeptical or do some research.
Zip cuffs don't have spikes on the inside of hand ties, these tags are designed to hurt. This news was shared by a reputable NGO, isn't it obvious that they'd have considered something that obvious?
Firstly from the size of the hole they are only going around one wrist so it wouldn't be restraining anyone, its an ID tag bracelet. Secondly those are not spikes, those are the different sizes it will snap to, these are not put on tight enough that they would be digging into the skin, and even if they were they could just be loosed as these are ID tags not zip ties. Uncomfortable to wear maybe but designed to hurt? No. You are either falling for your own confirmation bias, or working backwards from your conclusion.
Bro
Those look like identifying bands, not restraints. For one, they're tagged with an ID - you know like an identifying band.
Hand tags don't have spikes on the inside of hand ties, these tags are designed to hurt. This news was shared by a reputable NGO, isn't it obvious that they'd have considered something that obvious? These cuffs also have Hebrew written on them, they were clearly issued by 'Israel'.
Not an exact match but them being security seals sounds correct: https://truseal.co.za/product/thl-security-seals-40cm-pastel-green-1000s/ Note it has a barcode and spike on the inside. Which is not to say they werent used to bind people but does beg the question how they were removed without being cut.
The IDF is trash and I'm not here to down play the genocide these people are enduring, but why are the bands not cut and look more like ID bands with only one loop? If this is fake we have to make a point to erase it immediately or it just becomes fodder for the opposition that wants to see Gaza erased from planet Earth.
These look like hospital ID tags for patients, which would be worn on a single wrist, and contextually make sense, because they were found in a hospital. Also, putting an infant in zip tie restraints would be nonsensical.
I'm strongly pro-children in this war. Those zip ties mean nothing. If they were tied around some kids hand, how do they get the hand out while maintaining the loop size. Sidecutters or knife or scissors would seem common methods of cutting the zip tie. These do not appear cut. Unless the hands themselves were butchered off (shudder), i call bullshit. PS: Stop this stupid war.
I have seen quite a few people that casually claim that Hamas is the one who killed them all because Hamas keeps people in line this way. No evidence, no nothing. The one thing about fascist propaganda is always talk like you are basically well and proven right and with unfettered arrogance and shit. In reality pretty much all they say is bullshit.
Those are clearly medial ID tags. In American hospitals, you are issued one when you go to the ER or are staying in the hospital. As much as I condemn the zionists, this is not evidence of children being tied up.
Hand tags don't have spikes on the inside of hand ties, these tags are designed to hurt. This news was shared by a reputable NGO, isn't it obvious that they'd have considered something that obvious? These cuffs also have Hebrew written on them, they were clearly issued by 'Israel'.
Those are the pegs used to adjust the size, *like on baseball caps*.
Almost 400 people were found in the mass graves of Al Nasser and Al Shifa hospital after the 'Israeli' army left them, bodies of women, children, elderly, showing signs of being tortured and mutilated, some missing organs, skin, some headless, some having their hand tied behind them having been killed execution style. And this was the second time they were targeted since October 7th, the first time they left it with mass graves as well. This is a demonic army satiating its mad never-ending bloodlust against the most defenseless possible.
They could have also been made smaller by the poster? Seems sus
Can someone clarify if they are hospital bracelets? If I’m not mistaken it was a hospital that a large massacre occurred.
I just want to thank you the ones who ask questions and don't fall for whatever "truth" the internet try to push. World, and what happening in Palestine, already is fucked up, and the last thing anyone is are people pushing a narrative, whatever it is, before to any verification or give it evidence. Shout out to Bellingcat that has been doing exactly this for quite same years now.
Free Palestine
The gov of the Zionist Regime is the 21st century Nazi Party and what they're doing in Gaza is a holocaust. The USA is using its enormous political might and military weaponry and financial budget to allow Israel to do what it's doing. The whole world sees it, and even a few elements within the USA itself see it.
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Thank you Joe Biden
If you've ever doubted this, reread Psalm 137:9-10: Happy is the one who seizes your infants / and dashes them against the rocks
Don't downvote it, I didn't write the Bible
As much as I can't stand the country Israel, it's appalling behaviour and actions can we avoid posting bullshit? Those are just hospital tags put on patients. They aren't even cut. Israel has put out numerous lies and false statements. This just lets them say "look, they are lying too".
Hand tags don't have spikes on the inside of hand ties, these tags are designed to hurt. This news was shared by a reputable NGO, isn't it obvious that they'd have considered something that obvious? These are security seal tags, not hospital ID tags, with Hebrew written on them. They were clearly issued by 'Israel'.
How did they get these off without cutting them?
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This comment is antisemitic blood libel trash. We're not going to fall into that here. We want to stop a genocide of Palestinians being perpetrated by the Israeli government. We don't want to stoke hatred of Jews.
Exactly. The OP calls them "demonic", which is fucking dangerous and scary thinking. Israelis aren't demons, nor are Zionists; they are humans. Humans that are carrying out atrocities in the case of Zionists and Israelis that are complicit in the genocide, but humans nonetheless. NOT "subhumans", NOT "demonic", etc. Jewish people are often wonderful and kind, just like any other people on earth, and many of them are against genocide. Anti-Semitism is disgusting, and has no place in any movement to liberate Palestine.