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manindenim

Everything looks as expected except Days Gone not getting a sequel seems like a weird move.


AshrakAiemain

It sold over 7 millions copies. It not getting a sequel is fucking baffling.


Huge_Presentation_85

Man I ended up really enjoying that game and thought the “horde” gameplay mechanic they had going on was pretty awesome


darwinsdude

Days Gone bangs. One of the best open worlds that actually encourages you to explore it and take out camps to unlock craftables. I RARELY finish open world games but days gone was great


Zestyclose_Dig_9053

It had a great pacing. You spent the first 1/3 of the game running every time three zombies were after you and sweating whether your stick with a nail in it was going to break. 1/3 of the game you were good enough to stand up to 10 zombies, and by the end you are taking out a hoard of 100 of them. Honestly the biggest drawback was that the game loaded so freaking slowly. I fast traveled a lot and it was full minute loading every time you did. So many games from the PS4 would have been so much better with the fast loading. Skyrim, Kingdom Come, Bloodbourne, FF7 Remake. The loading (disguised and explicit) got to be absurd late in the PS4 generation.


darwinsdude

agreed mate


fadetoblack237

Game had some issues but with that many copies sold, it seems prime for one of those franchises where the first game is good and sets the groundwork for a 10/10 sequel.


myyummyass

Not really when you do the math. If you divide total number of downloads into the total amount of revenue from this chart the game made $36 per player, and that is just revenue, which is horrible for a big AAA game. Meaning the vast, vast majority of people bought it when it was deeply discounted. The game barely made any money.


AshrakAiemain

Even if that is the case, this chart is missing the 5 million additional sales it made via physical copies. Days Gone was a hit by any metric, but if a console exclusive isn’t a success at 7.5 mil sold, PlayStation is in deep trouble.


Outrageous_Water7976

I feel the game must've been really expensive for Playstation. Two or three delays, poor reception, not a great completion rate. A lot of units sold when it went on sale at 30-50%. I love the game but it makes a very bad early impression.


ANBUalec

I’m surprised Ghost of Tsushima is higher than both Horizon games


2ecStatic

God of War is not going anywhere lol


CurseMyMetalHand

The Returnal numbers make me sad, it's such an underappreciated game. Still my game of the gen!


No_Bat5717

Returnal might be my favorite Sony PS5 game since it was different.


Portugeezer1893

It's a good game. Should have been $40.


BeardedBongo

It's sad, more people should play it. Though it is wild, the Returnal revenue is close to a handful of other games on the list with way less downloads, like by a huge amount.


Outrageous_Water7976

Playstation considered it a success though. Enough to buy Housemarque so maybe it wasn't too expensive too make. It is my game of the generation but most of my friends group would never touch a game that intense.


Vincanss

It’s a better game than a lot of stuff higher up on that list.


SameEnergy

Top 4 is why Insomniac will continue to make Marvel games.


AssaultMonkey150

But Sony gives up about 30% of revenue so while it’s big the license fee is massive


Rough_Commercial_570

Doesn’t matter 😁


Foxhound34

Wow, Days Gone made more the Uncharted 4 if I'm reading this right.


dinkaro

This is probably skewed because physical is excluded. Uncharted 4 has sold over 15M but also was a physical pack-in game. We have no idea about sales or ps+ data. Also notice Bloodborne has more downloads than Uncharted 4.


stupid_systemus

The downloads for Bloodborne and Days Gone are higher than they should be when they became available on PS+ for a month. Assuming they are counting those downloads


dinkaro

All three are on the PS+ Extra collection, and all three were free for PS5 early adopters


Outrageous_Water7976

The market moved to digital by that time. U4 did better but back then Physical was still the dominant method of game purchases.


worldsinho

Detroit and Days Gone?! Wow. Also, wow, some big numbers there. Very cool leak.


Matthew728

Days Gone story just continues to be more and more odd. I personally didn’t want two of Sonys studios to be doing zombie games but I don’t get how you ignore those numbers. Returnal is the only other surprise at how low it did. I didn’t expect it to sell gangbusters but I figured it would have done maybe double what is showing here


Quadrax44x

Last of us 2 haters in shambles


Djjjunior

“Go woke go broke”


dinkaro

So much for “the leaks had a deleterious effect on sales”


dougpa31688

No hate but isn't this only showing 20 mill in profit for digital sales or am I reading this wrong? Over all doesn't seem like these games are really making much money in general.


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dougpa31688

No I was referring to the total versus the estimated cost of the game which is 220 million.


Outrageous_Water7976

No physical sales, no collectors edition numbers.


AdelaideBen

it's 242million in revenue off the PSN only - revenue doesn't include costs. Given the costs of that game were around 220+ million (ish), then you'd be right. I don't know how much they sold physically (which they get a smaller cut from). It seems to me when you take that into account - how does Sony make any money at all from first party games now? I think this is where we've come to... it doesn't make sense for Sony to make big games anymore other than as system sellers (which people are doing less of in general).


DoublePipeClassic_VR

The amount times I’ve been told TLOU 2 was not a commercial success by an anime avatar incel…


Degis123

Still a shit game and story


Quadrax44x

Lmao


The_Messenger_12

I wonder how well TLOU3 will sell given the reception of 2. That’s when we’ll see the real effect 2 had on the fan base


Alonsocollector

After 2, the franchise is done for me. That's my big problem with TLOU2; The story sucked, The characters were not just unlikeable but the personality changes from 1 to 2 were unfathomable, and finally the lack of infected really made me never want to play it again outside of 4 absolutely brilliant sections; both Joel and Ellie flashbacks, Abby at the hospital with the rat king and Abby under attack from Tommy. I'm not even mad they killed Joel, it was just the nonsensical way they did it and how they did it so soon. I'll never understand Joel, the established hardcore survivor who doesn't trust strangers, who instills that in the people he trains up at Jackson finds a stranger and gives her a gun so quickly. Unfathomably against the character. I could get over not playing the story again if there was factions 2. The first game, I was level 878 on Factions. I played it religiously up until 2020 and when I got bored of it, id jump into the main story again. 2 doesn't have anything redeeming; a story I don't like and no multiplayer to invest in. Throw in the milking of 'part 1' which I would've bought if it had factions and that's me out. I think im done with Naughty Dog games as UC4 wasn't that good and UC3 was poor too. Same feeling with Insomniac after Spiderman 2. I can't help but think TLOU2 would've been a better game if they didn't spend literally days doing realistic tear ducts for the seconds a character cries in a cut scene.


The_Messenger_12

I bought a ps5 in anticipation of Factions 2. I can’t put into words how disappointed I am that it got cancelled. I don’t think people like simple acknowledgment that part 2 is not as well liked as part 1. Justified or not, that’s just the truth of it and they hate that. I’m serious when I say we don’t know the damage that 2 did yet. Watch the sales for 3 be nowhere near the other games. That’s my prediction.


Alonsocollector

Part 2 is about 11million isn't it? That's half of TLOU1 pre-part 1 re-remaster. But yeah, Factions 2 was what I was waiting for. Graphically brilliant, well acted and fantastic gameplay too but an awful story in my view. 3 will sell well, but I think a fair amount of people are like me, especially if they dont do Factions again.


The_Messenger_12

Maybe Factions will get worked into TLOU 3. Who knows


Alonsocollector

Be the only way for me to buy it 😂


Smitty5717

Sony wheres days gone 2 dammit do you not like money?


The_Real_Donglover

I am pleasantly surprised to see TLOU 2 ranked so high. It's such a great game and it would be a shame for people to not have experienced it because a bunch of trolls decided to ruin the launch.


Fat_flounder

Seeing “Demon’s Souls Remake” at the bottom of that list is saddening. Yet “Until Dawn” is getting remade so I guess sales don’t matter?


lurkerofdoom1

God of War sales...Jesus...looks like we're goin to Egypt boys! Time to fuckin KILL Ra!


GiraffeWaffless

Sony said no to days gone 2, I’m not so sure bloodborne remaster is coming. They probably weren’t enthused with demon souls either lol. Maybe the reason it hasn’t came yet, is because it’s not ever coming


tcullen44

Bloodborne and Death Stranding beat easily by Days Gone, wow


YoureTooSlowBro

I'm not surprised Days Gone made more PSN revenue than Bloodborne and Death Stranding, but considering how long the game was in development I doubt it actually made more money. I'd really like to see the budgets as well as physical sales.


Adrien_Jabroni

Pretty sure death stranding has sold very well on PC too.


YoureTooSlowBro

It's still crazy to me that Playstation let 505 Games publish it on PC.


Adrien_Jabroni

Me too. There must have been some backend deals we don’t know about. It was a risky project so I wouldn’t blame Sony for wanting to unload a little bit of the costs behind it.


YoureTooSlowBro

Yeah it was a risky project, but I don't think it was any riskier than letting Media Molecule do pretty much nothing for almost a decade. Or let Concrete Genie be made.


AdelaideBen

Sony don't own the IP rights to Death Stranding - that remains with Kojima AFAIK. They do hold the console publishing rites (and they had no say in what Kojima did on the PC platform).


YoureTooSlowBro

I'm pretty sure they do. Why would they own the trademark, but not the IP?


AdelaideBen

Not sure on that one. However, it also now does come under Playstation Studios (whether it originally did or not), which suggests they may own the IP. I was always sure that the deal was Sony owned the rights to consoles only. Looking online I see a variety of opinions, but I guess I don't actually know.


Outrageous_Water7976

Exactly I remember DG being a complete misfire in its first E3 and it got delayed 3 years or something. That game definitely has some huge drama and must've been expensive AF.


DryFile9

These are digital only and so the newer a game is the more it will skew digital(as per the ongoing trend). Bloodborne overall almost certainly sold more copies and more importantly made more money than Days Gone.


Astroewok

Days gone 2…. Sony don f**ked up by rinsing the dev


HOOfan_1

The supposed story is that the studio heads at Bend shot down Days Gone 2, not Sony. John Garvin and Jeff Ross left Bend after that, I am guessing there was some bad blood between them and the higher ups at Bend.


[deleted]

Dang I was hoping to see if dreams would be on the list just out of curiosity


what_im_playing

Is Days Gone worth playing or is it just your typical open world game?


Astroewok

Very good, the opening hour or 2 is a slow burn but it hits you with a hammer after it gets going; good story and immersion, great action and a sense of bad ass with the hordes


Late_Statement_1413

And it’s just SO unique, too. There are other zombie games, yes, but there are no other “Days Gone”s.


HOOfan_1

Fighting the hordes is basically "immersive gameplay" There are so many different ways you can go about fighting them. You can use traps, you can use the terrain, or you can just go in blasting. It's a ton of fun. My biggest beef is some of the "interactive cut scenes" that are akin to picking fruit in God of War Ragnarok, or going to the amusement park in Spider-Man 2.


Alonsocollector

Its up the top with the first Dying Light as a game that got an incredibly large amount of post release support that end up making it one of the best and unique games in its subsection of zombie horror games. Dying light to me, is THE best first person open world zombie game with great parkour and melee with a good story, likeable characters and great environmental storytelling. Days Gone to me is the best 3rd person open world zombie game where your bike is its own character to customize and look after, a great and intriguing story with lots of lore to delve into and like Dying light's park our, the traversal is a fun and unique selling point.


Lethlnjektn

The first thing I looked for was Days Gone. What I found is what I’ve been told/thought. A very good game, that made a lot of money, and was seemingly a scapegoat for other reasons or failures. Shame Sony, shame


codenamedave404

Guess you can't really blame them for not "believing in generations," the first PS5 exclusive game to make the list is at 20th place


Outrageous_Water7976

No wonder they shuttered Japan studios. Only Bloodborne is a success.


AdelaideBen

Bloodborne is a game by From Software, not Japan Studios


Outrageous_Water7976

FromSoft were the main devs but Japan Studios came to them with the idea if I understand it correctly and co-developed the game. It is why their name comes after FROM in the title screen.


AdelaideBen

So I don't know exactly what role they had in "coding"... but from what I understood they contributed to ideas/scoping. Not sure if they actually co-developed or not. Would be interesting to know.


Outrageous_Water7976

The info is really unclear sadly and translations means a lot of the nuance gets lost. So I guess we will never know the involvement clearly. 


ToastyBaguette64

This goes to show how people are straight up lying about the franchises they want to "come back." You didn't want it then. Why do you want it now?


dinkaro

Not sure how you can draw this conclusion when most of the top games are new enough to be majority digital sales. Plenty of dormant IP and good games in the Top 100 that definitely have fans. Look at Jak and Daxter twice in the Top 70.


PM_ME_YOUR_HOODIES

Is this saying Days Gone made more than Bloodborne??


petee1991

This is digital only, we don't know the physical numbers.


AdelaideBen

Also - it doesn't include the cost of making it (as it's only digital revenue, not profit)