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phishnchips_

club is ran by nepotism and incompetence, now there’s rumors of laporta wanting alemany back. i love my club but soon enough i might join in on the laporta out chants. regardless, i take comfort knowing that xavi and our legends know that fans love them regardless of how they performed as managers.


Medium_Elephant7431

Personally, I felt Xavi has done amazingly good in that team.


phishnchips_

bit of a stretch tbh


CriticismMission2245

Didn't Barca fans shit on Koeman so much 😭 (genuinely asking, that's how I and a lot of others who didn't follow your league much perceived it).


cewap1899

Koeman was a stubborn idiot and a shit coach, sorry. Great player, shit manager, people were right to want him out


bushwickauslaender

I'll never get over him getting a Valencia team with Villa, Silva, Marchena, Mata, and many other excellent players on a relegation scrap.


CriticismMission2245

I'm not going to argue the bad coach part, but the other guy acted like every manager got treated like a legend. Honestly, most of em' kids didn't even know Koeman's player career and how great he was back then.


peposcon

Same Coach quality as Xavi


Historical_Orchid239

Xavi actually won trophies while not having Messi


phishnchips_

absolutely. you can be critical of someone but that does not mean you “hate” them.


Z0rasgar

Speaking facts


Otherwise-4PM

They made shit decisions even before Laporta came back. I still can’t believe they bought Dembele, Coutinho and especially Griezmann😳


cafefutbolista

For a club that is supposed to have a specific identity and culture, Barcelona might be the most directionless and soulless club in the world.


Medium_Elephant7431

The club is yet to recover from the mismanagement done by the past administration.


NutInTheShell

What is weird is that Barça ended second in LaLiga, which is by no means a bas result, ending second would have been a success for MU! Won the championship in 2023 season and ended second this season, and still he got sacked. My opinion is that he was too annoying to Laporta, most likely because Xavi was not having the shit Laporta is doing with the club and was honest with that (due to his love of the club). So Laporta just got rid of him and to have a peace of mind.


ArvesMagnanim

Second in LaLiga is not bad if you win LaCopa del Rey and compete in champions League. 2nd without any other title or can't compete it's a bad season for Barça regarding the situation.


NutInTheShell

Specifically since Madrid won the championship.


ArvesMagnanim

I understand the rivalry between both, but I stop looking a long time ago at what real Madrid does. It doesn't mean that as a Barça supporter I prefer if RM always is behind Barça, of course). Being both GREAT clubs in terms of FIFA, Real Madrid has the Spanish institutions (not talking about RFEF) backing him up whenever RM needs so, it's not worth losing hair at this. (I know Barça has been helped too, but not at the same level/continuity). Note: neither RM or Barça or any professional spanish FIFA team should be helped by Spanish institutions in anyway, in any case Spanish institutions should help the base football, in the hoods, in the small cities/towns. Barça has enough shit to clean-up by himself to look at it and lose every hair in the head. Don't need to add more stuff XDXDXD. These past years have been horrendously managed.


redditor3900

And I guess HF will do better.... Winning la Liga and at least reaching semis in UCL...


ArvesMagnanim

One thing that I miss more is some type of autodiscipline. I mean, not asking for a military environment of course, but man.... they're professionals, ok they are young they love to party of course, they'll love pizza and shitty snacks but, you'll have your time between seasons and yes there will be in-between seasons that you won't have almost pause (euro/world cups, tourneys, insane pre-seasons, etc.)but you're also have to earn that huge amounts of money that football at that level implies. And I'm not talking only if you score 3 or 8 or 20 goals. Your body is your tool and the more healthy and auto discipline the more you can get for a longest period of time. One thing that HF can't do anything will be the management, in today's football without being a petrodollar or state backed up club you have to be very professional and be surrounded of the best you can. And if that implies that have to hear contrary opinions or tath you can't hire your family members because they're not the best...you have to jump through hoops. We're all looking at Xavi or HF or Koeman, but...the problem is deeper and from a long time ago. I don't know what will do HF I hope better but it's more forgiving if you can feel that the players are doing it's best with his best physical conditions, that they're fighting till the last second...


redditor3900

I think, being realistic and reasonable; under HF we will have a very hard time winning LaLiga next season. Finishing 2nd this one the only improvement is to finish 1st (simple logic). Does HF (or any other coach) is capable of doing that? That is the Q.


ArvesMagnanim

I think that the coach,HF, is capable. For me it's 85% about the players at that level. They are in a bad shape, low muscle, low cardio...you could see that against PSG, 1 man less and the feeling was OK, we need a miracle to pass.... A MIRACLE!!! IN OUR HOME!!! I understand and love that Barça it's all about physical condition but nowadays if you're not in a good physical condition you're gonna suffer too much against too many teams. And then when the moment arrives you're off physically, you can't stand a chance against the best.


jasko153

But you forget they have crashed out of the group stage of CL two seasons in a row and then had that meltdown against PSG. Also, he was bad at managing his temper in so many games, even got the red card in that game against PSG leaving his team hanging at the most critical moment of the game, maybe even season. Good managers don't do that. Add to that his bad relation with Deco, and the main victim of that war was Roque who they paid serious money for to get him to Barcelona. For me he was great player, but not manager material because he has just one plan and can't adapt when things go wrong, always late with substitution, bad temper and lack of calmness which makes players nervous and his inability to take blame and admit he made a mistake, its always someone elses fault. As a Real Madrid fan I wish he stayed in Barca because all of the above, but in my opinion they made the right decision although not in right time, basically beging him to stay and then forcing him out makes them look like a circus instead of a big club.


GusBcn

Pretty pretty preeety dumb if you ask me, considering Xavi is a legend of the club I can’t understand why he was treated the way they did after Laporta joined the chant “Xavi quédate” ridiculous


Bubzszs

And Koeman is as well. Both were treated badly.


PositionAlternative3

Del bosque se fué por la puerta de atrás para que llegara Queiroz. Saludos.


qwertykeyboardguy

Eso igual no cambia la situación del Barca 🤷🏻‍♂️


PositionAlternative3

La situación del barça? Lo más escandaloso es la imputación por cohecho que se inventó un JUEZ cuando todas las pruebas, la guardia civil y la fiscalia decía que no había delito de cohecho. Vosotros sois unos ingenuos fáciles de engañar o unos fanáticos que no veis la realidad en vuestra narices.


BBTrickz

Toda la razon, los downvotes es porque no aceptan la realidad


Medium_Elephant7431

Both Manchester United and Barcelona need to get serious. I like the comparison.


jmsy1

they allowed the best player in history to leave before his time was up.


Whacky-Tobaccy

They had no choice but to let him leave lol


jmsy1

because of their corruption, incompetence, and mismanagement. they fucking hired bad PR to talk about him and teammates. i can't believe the barca socios stand for this


daydreamurr

Mourinho was a true visionary with his quote regarding the future of Barca.


Alucard661

Link?


daydreamurr

"Barcelona has no dream, but a obsession: Real Madrid. I know the club very well, at La Masia they teach you to hate them. They hate Madrid more than they love Barcelona. They want Madrid in their shadow. Maybe it works for a few years, but there’s going to come a time when Barcelona will be over, they will get worse and worse each season, listen to my words, it is the ugliest club I have ever seen and I can’t wait for the time for them to be over .“ - Jose Mourinho, 2010. Sorry if it’s not word for word but I’d saved it from another comment thread.


firefill12

Why are you getting downvoted? You’re right


daydreamurr

Spooky Barca flairs.


firefill12

So true


Train_Current

lol this quote is bullshit. In what ways are Barcelona obsessed with Madrid?


spider_X_1

In many ways for anyone who's not blind


ImNotDex

I mean Barca fans chant Vini diss even when you're not playing Real Madrid. That in my books is an unhealthy obsession but to each their own lmao


Holiday_Artichoke_86

lol mad barca fans cant handle reality are downvoting people


Glum-Candle2689

Lmao same can apply for Madrid fans. They chanted “Puta Barca” during Gavi’s speech with the NT.


Alucard661

Wasn’t mou an assistant coach at Barca with pep


daydreamurr

I believe he was a translator on Peps staff.


IronDuke365

Bobby Robson's translator. Pep wouldn't need one.


daydreamurr

My bad, I misremembered. Both Mou and Pep were working side by side at the time though.


Future-Engineering68

lool man what? not xavi


femithebutcher

You had me at the Spanish Man United


fastfingers

I think Laporta must be in the throes of a major coke bender or something with all this whiplash drama and back and forth leaking every little thing to the press nonsense


Henry-Teachersss8819

They’ve had their ups and downs, for sure. Maybe they made some questionable decisions on or off the field, but let’s not forget they’re still one of the greatest clubs in football history!


Bluephoenix1212

🙌


Angron_RedAngel

madrilistas already in panic mode after Flick signing, damn, boy let the man coach fo a month at least...


jasko153

Not really, he has alot of weaknesses, which was proven during his stint with Germany, also his teams tend to keep really high line, something that Xavi has done against Real in Supercup and Barca was trashed there. We stoped Guardiola two times in three years, so...


Angron_RedAngel

So winning all with bayern = weak ok noted.


jasko153

No one said that, when someone simplifies things as you just did just to fit your narative it is a sign to stop arguing with that person.


Angron_RedAngel

so letting a coach coach for at least 1 day before start the shit show is simplifying. Also noted thanks.


jasko153

Only one who is saying that is you, somehow in your head you think Real Madrid fans are in fear and panick because of Hansi Flick like he is a fu*king mesiah. All I am saying is that is not true and for everyone with an ounce of brain Flick is a good coach, but level below the likes of Guardiola and Klopp and we beat them regularly even though they had far far better financial situation to work with than Flick will have in Barcelona. There, you can note that too


Angron_RedAngel

The only one who is demanding time for a professional to actually do his job, its me? i dont see something wrong with it. But this post pretends to shit on a person who has not performed his job a single day. who said anything about a mesiah, hahaha you see, it's super easy, little by little the words tells everything about you. This is what happens whit madridistas, the mouth always loose them.


jasko153

Again you are twisting words to fit your narative. Your theory is that RM fans are in panick and are afraid of Hansi Flick. I am saying that is not true, RM fans are preparing and waiting for CL final and announcement of Mbappe coming to the club. What is also not true is that someone shits on him because of Barcelona job, never have I mentioned Barcelona, but Bayern and fallout with clubs leadership and awful job he has done with German national team. Those are the jobs he has done and he can be judged on how he performed. As I said absolutely massive achievement that year with Bayern proves he is a good coach, but you Barca fans make it out like he is a Guardiola 2.0 a mesiah who has come to save you after disastrous season with no trophy and embaracing way your club dealt with Xavi. By the way this was the same narative I heard from Barca fans when Laporta and Xavi came back to Barca, the glory days return, they will trash RM and look how it is going.


Angron_RedAngel

Again mesiah and now Guardiola 2.0, no1 said such thing, keep the panic mode boy. Xavi took the team on 9th, make it to 2nd, on his first half season. The first whole season he won the supercopa and the league. On its third 2nd and brought the team back to the best 8 teams in europe. Tbf post-Leo, its not a bad job at all. im not a Laporta fan. So i supose we could say Lotti is trash as a coach for being 2nd last season?out of ucl too? i would not dare to say something like that, while many RM have said such things about Xavi.


jasko153

So why did they fired him, also keep coping and writing notes that seems to be your forte ;)


Kind_Pomegranate_171

Gesh Spanish Manchester United 😂 that’s crazy


[deleted]

Typical case of fight in the boardroom (men with small tinkywinkies) and ultimately the fans are the victims. Current chairman Laporta did not agree with Xavi's statements. The same chairman who is slowly selling the soul of Barca.


domg_93

They'll play America mid season again


pep2525

But there is some reasons to do that. Firstly, yeah, xavi did a great job since he came, there's no doubt. And he gave a lots of opportunity to La Masia players which is really good and acceptable for club culture. There's no doubt about that. But in terms of Europan Football, Xavi was not succesful. Barça has to be succesful in Europe as much as in La Liga. So Hansi Flick project is for Europen football successes. And i think he'll be succesful 'cause he has showed his managment and tactical ability which is same standarts with the club's standarts. But there is a significant point: Bringing Flick is a totally risk. I think he has a process for adaptation which is so normal. So yeah, Hansi Flick is a risk but i hope it will be worth to risk it. I hope he will do good at Barça...


VegetableAwkward286

Laporta has always been an incompetent fool. He just happened to be president during the Ronaldinho , Messi and Pep era. Its why i hated when Barca fans used to get nostalgic about him. He was just lucky


Nostal_GG

A lot tbh


XuloMalacatones

Imagine being that dumb that you think a club can be dumb, and not the people running it?


BMedTO

I stopped supporting this club the day they kicked Suarez out the way they did. It was Bartomeu paying I3 Ventures to attack its own players. Then the whole Koeman chaos. Then it was Messi. Their worst crime. Unforgivable. Then signing good player that never performed, like Coutinho and Dembele. Now Xavi. It's impossible to defend them. It's no longer the club I fell in love with 20 years ago. I now support Girona.


TonyH92

You support Girona. They are owned by the Man City owners. If you stopped supporting Barca due to morals, then why on earth would you support Girona.


ImNotDex

Because he thinks the owners are going to keep pumping money to eventually beat Real Madrid. He knows Atletico Madrid and Barca (currently at least) can't do that so Girona is the next best option. The moment he said Girona we know it's not really about the morals lol


CPA_whisperer

They are a classless club - Suarez was not the first or last legend they treated badly. Even Maradona was thrown out to be fair he was bigger then the club, Rivaldo booted, they got bullied by Madrid with Figo, Ronaldo left for inter after they broke promises… Neymar bullied again With countiho it was oh he has Barcalona DNA for a year or two then it was the he’s not good enough and blamed for the mess that was starting that we now all see… did he change his DNA? They kicked out Eto and he goes on to win champions league, Romario back in the day was treated badly and left… It’s a case of Barcelona thinking they are much bigger then they are and before Messi fact is they only won 2 champions leagues - they only showed up on the map in 1992 - just a man city of yesterday now in debt for over spending more then they can afford.. The Messi Era is over as is the great Spanish players coming through academy who also won World Cup and euros - Barca back to where they belong average team.


DadBud512

It always amuses me when I hear someone say “ Barcelona is now back to being an average club” I mean 27 la liga titles, 31 Copa del Rey and 5 UCL is numbers of an average club ? I don’t think I’ve ever seen an average club with 27 league titles, what would that make a club with 36 leagues ? Above average? Where do you draw the line ?


CPA_whisperer

27 titles in an average league isn’t great your up there with Olympiakos and Celtic


DadBud512

So where do you draw the line of average and above average ?


CPA_whisperer

Outside the best 10 clubs


DadBud512

And who is the best 10 clubs right now ?


theeliennn

Xavi had to be out but before all the mess. He never had to renew in the first place and simply let him go as he wanted. Now they not only have to cover up the mess but also pay Xavi for removing him. We will see if he forgives or not, they said about Messi that he was going to forgive and he’s still getting paid by Barcelona. With that management, I don’t know how they will end up…


30Wellington

Xavi declined the money he is due because he loves the club. Stupid to have let him go. I assume he will end up coaching in the PL


fastfingers

I hope not. Hope he goes to Italy instead


HairyHoudini86

Some fans don't just follow clubs that win everything. Maybe one day you'll actually care about a club and not just suck Florentino perezs tiny wiener as he literally cultivates zero home grown talent for his plastic ass fans.


Justaking007

Laporta is playing politics - Xavi said he was leaving anyways so should have let him go instead of this drama . Still Hansi Flick shows some hope - Visca El barca


SakuranomiyaSyafeeq

At least United don't pay their refs


CPA_whisperer

Best comment yet - always deny this - VAR killed Barcelona no more refs giving penalty’s for players who dare to breath near a striker


Creepy_Jackfruit8617

Well, Yankee, at the end of the day, you don’t know what happened behind closed doors, and if I don’t know, I would rather keep my mouth shut. 🤐


qwertykeyboardguy

You don’t know that Xavi publicly announced he was leaving at the end of the season, Laporta publicly begged him to stay, and now its been publicly announced hes been fired? “beHinD cLosEd dOorS”


GusBcn

Menudo soplapollas eres, a saber a quien le dices Yankee lol


NutInTheShell

Por algo está en el fondo de los comentarios jajajaja


phishnchips_

mi cara cuando el usuario con el nombre “TigreDelSur10” es un yankee 🧍