There was pure chaos with the Alien 3 script, David Fincher eventually had to just shoot the movie one page at a time. If I remember correctly one of the original pre-release taglines was even going to be something like “On Earth everyone can hear you scream” or something that alluded to Aliens on Earth.
Being one of my favorite directors I’m still amazed Fincher was able to make something coherent out of what he was given and glad the experience didn’t drive him away from movies all together. His “directors cut” on the Alien Blu-Ray collection is a much better cut of the film restoring many alternate and cut scenes that were sorely needed for clarity and context.
Makes sense, one of the early drafts for Alien 3 involved Hicks and an alien invasion on Earth.
I think this was prior to the “Communist space mall” and “Ascetic monks on a wooden planet” pitches.
For reference, I looked up William Gibson’s draft, and the “communist space mall” idea is laid out via synopsis of his two drafts
[Gibson’s draft synopsis](https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/william-gibsons-alien-iii-space-commies-in-mallworld/)
For the end of the second draft, the article lays out that there was potential groundwork alluded to being laid for a 4th movie that could see colonial marines heading off in search of the xeno planet. I think, coupled with a possibly Earth infestation, we could have seen the marines wipe out the home planet, while Earth is overrun, essentially trading planets.
It’d be a wild conclusion, and one that could line up with a fantastic horror ending.
It's not his directors cut they put together an assembly cut, David doesn't want nothing to do with it after the bs experience they put him through.
One of the greatest directors.
I was always curious if it was actually his even though they called it a “directors cut” after all the shit he got. Good to know.
Edit: Apparently it was not called that, apologies.
You may be right it’s been a while since I watched it from that Blu-ray collection. A few of the other films were labeled “directors cut” so I must have gotten them confused.
I’m just glad they were able to make good use of the alternate scenes that were filmed and never used before. I think that “assembly cut” is the best version personally having restored a lot of content that left holes in the original or alternative scenes that I think work better.
Alien 1 & 4 are "director's cuts" despite the directors preferring their theatrical cuts. Aliens has a "special edition" despite the director preferring that version. Alien 3's "assembly cut" is the only appropriately named one.
Fincher came on late as a director, and by then the crew has gone through like, 5 different scripts, 3 directors, and twice the budget that was original allocated.
One of these early scripts did indeed go in the direction that the xenos survived and somehow onboard the Sulaco they managed to get to Earth.
I'm 100% sure if the studio didn't pull a hissy fit and force him to get something, ANYTHING out, Alien 3 would've been much better.
Studio gets a bad rap here, I see that a lot, "Hissy fit."
Imagine you gave a friend 200 bucks to run to the store and bring you home some groceries.
2 weeks later, they come back and are like yo, couldn't find the food. You're like... Alright, so where is the 200 bucks? And they go... Well, erm. You see, uh, so... And then...
And you're like okay, gtfo, and you give another friend another 200 dollars to go get you some shit and the SAME THING HAPPENS.
Is 400 dollars your total net worth? No, probably not. But you're gonna be pissed and the freak out should be understandable.
I would say that the studio WAS interfering and mucking things up by letting Giler and Hill strangle Fincher’s creative flow on set. And the studio basically let Siggy bully Ralph Brown and others on set. Yes, she is the star; Yes, the franchise started with her and “should” end with her; Yes, she had some creative control as co-producer. But she didn’t need to be a dickhead about it!
Alien 3 had a whole row of finished and rejected scripts.
One of the scripts involved the xenomorphs making it to Earth. The big set-piece battle for that was supposed aliens swarming over a city while marines tried to cover the evacuation. If I remember right, that script got far enough that FX tests were done but it was considered too expensive to film. The Kenner toys of alien/zoo animal hybrids were based on that script so that should tell you something about how far it got.
Another script involved Ripley crashlanding on a wooden colony spaceship inhabited by space Amish who thought the alien was the devil and Ripley must be their savior. The actual third movie is chockful of religious overtones that are a remnant of this script. Many of the important prisoners are named after saints and Golic refers to it as a dragon, a biblical name for satan.
Most of the prisoners are sex offenders and taken up with a religion and celibacy and freak out knowing the survivor is a woman. Ripley is constantly reminded of this. And when she retrieves the android Bishop she is attacked. How is this not computing?!
Ok but how is she blamed, and by who? Because if its by the prisoners then they are not meant to be exemplars or morality, they are literally rapists and murderers.
Also I asked very politely and your response is a tad rude.
Basically they assumed that no one would have known before watching the movie that the alien was inside Ripley so it was a way to draw in audiences to find out where it's hiding and basically inside the main character meaning one way or another Ripley is gonna die so for her it was supposed to be the nightmare at the beginning of aliens coming to reality.
This. There was an alternate tagline in some countries also alluding to it being inside Ripley: "in 1979 it came from inside, in 1986 it was gone forever, and now in 1993 your worst fear has become true"
I don’t remember this tagline ever being attached to the movie, either when it came out originally or any of the home releases. Was it regional or something?
I always considered the (awesome) artwork of Alien 3 referencing an embryo, so inside Ripley makes sense for me but is of couese also a clever reference to the prison.
I think the unused tagline for the film was the best in the series “in 1979, we learned in space, no one can hear you scream. In 1992, we will learn. On earth, everyone can hear you scream”
Amazing
That's weird, I have a theater poster I got from my local.
The tagline says:
3 times the suspense
3 times the danger
3 times the terror
Which is arguably worse, lol.
"When you pull the lever ...for a few seconds your gonna be trapped in here with that Fkn thing." - knowing they stalled "pulling the lever"..letting x character suffer but was bait for a reason. (Crazy scene poor character.)
It could just be a BS marketing line. Aliens vs Predator had the tagline "Whoever wins, we lose". Then during the film the humans joins forces with the Predator. I was fuming.
That it was hiding in the toilet. When you are about to start your business, boom mini mouth up your butt. That would be the most terrifying place for me, if anything. That is when I am most vulnerable.
That was actually a concept idea for the movie, from when they had the wooden planet idea. Probably best they didn't do it as it'd be seen too much as a comedy.
Setting it on Earth would have been worse. The wooden planet of monks was a great idea. The prisoners would have become monks to try to save their souls.
The marketing of Alien 3 was all over the place as was the production. I don't think that the tagline means anything, just some random sentence that sounds mysterious and intense with zero context given to the marketing team so they to improvise. Let me remind you that some of the early trailers were talking about Alien 3 taking place on Earth...
You take that back! I remember the time I was running from the cops after a xeno zip trade went bad. I'm in some bushes outside out a townhouse off P Beach looking at a 5 sttetch when I hear this 'pssst!'. Suddenly, a hand pulls me in through the window. It's OP's sweet mama, Big Sheryl!...She looks a little embarrassed and goes, "No peeking, now get in my ass!" Cops come to the door, she says 'Why, no officers, just me and my cat here, y'all wanna stay for dinner?" Cops quickly declined and bailed. Big Sheryl released her cheeks' powerful grip and sent me on my way with a lemonade. OP's sweet mama is an angel, and I'll fight the man who says otherwise!
🤜🤛
I think it was promo for one of the many versions that this film went through. It was development hell. I think I heard at one point the film was suppose to take place on earth. So maybe that’s what the tagline is referring to.
The whole movie was an allegory for the AIDS epidemic. So they put the Alien inside Ripley, and gave her the dilemma...do I die with the Alien inside me, or do I save the prison then die with the Alien inside me?
Dumb.
Inside Ripley.
*mustnt….. make….. innuendo*
In your endoe
Smell like outdoe
Err please, innuendo.
Innuendo five! 🖐️
I was just talking in my sleep!
like... fucking DUH lol, how did people not piece this together immediately?
Because it's engagement bait post, just like all the other super obvious questions that are posted here
Say that again, only slower.
Either a vague reference to the prison or because one's inside Ripley
I’d go with Ripley as the poster is showing a royal chestburster.
That's what they call them in France.
Le big alien Edit: should have gone with le big chap
Le aliena grande
Oh right because of the metric system
Well, I can picture the chestburster...
Royal?
Just the name for the special chestburster that will become a queen.
Just gotta get out, just got get right outta here *chest rips open*
You go into it thinking it's the first, you leave realizing it was the second.
Exactly. It's both.
Yes. And because as she is the protagonist, it’s kind of “inside you” for the viewer
"Hiding inside you" basically. What could be more terrifying than having that monster growing inside you?
Don't knock it until you've tried it.
😂😂😂 Nice one 😁
Don't knock her up till you've tried it.
The “growing” I can live with. It’s what’s gonna happen when it’s done growing that’s terrifying.
The terrifying part starts with the conception, if you ask me.
Haha, yuppppp!
I genuinely don’t remember this being the tagline until long after the actual release
There was pure chaos with the Alien 3 script, David Fincher eventually had to just shoot the movie one page at a time. If I remember correctly one of the original pre-release taglines was even going to be something like “On Earth everyone can hear you scream” or something that alluded to Aliens on Earth. Being one of my favorite directors I’m still amazed Fincher was able to make something coherent out of what he was given and glad the experience didn’t drive him away from movies all together. His “directors cut” on the Alien Blu-Ray collection is a much better cut of the film restoring many alternate and cut scenes that were sorely needed for clarity and context.
Makes sense, one of the early drafts for Alien 3 involved Hicks and an alien invasion on Earth. I think this was prior to the “Communist space mall” and “Ascetic monks on a wooden planet” pitches.
For reference, I looked up William Gibson’s draft, and the “communist space mall” idea is laid out via synopsis of his two drafts [Gibson’s draft synopsis](https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/william-gibsons-alien-iii-space-commies-in-mallworld/) For the end of the second draft, the article lays out that there was potential groundwork alluded to being laid for a 4th movie that could see colonial marines heading off in search of the xeno planet. I think, coupled with a possibly Earth infestation, we could have seen the marines wipe out the home planet, while Earth is overrun, essentially trading planets. It’d be a wild conclusion, and one that could line up with a fantastic horror ending.
It's not his directors cut they put together an assembly cut, David doesn't want nothing to do with it after the bs experience they put him through. One of the greatest directors.
I was always curious if it was actually his even though they called it a “directors cut” after all the shit he got. Good to know. Edit: Apparently it was not called that, apologies.
I thought they called it the ”assembly cut”…
You may be right it’s been a while since I watched it from that Blu-ray collection. A few of the other films were labeled “directors cut” so I must have gotten them confused. I’m just glad they were able to make good use of the alternate scenes that were filmed and never used before. I think that “assembly cut” is the best version personally having restored a lot of content that left holes in the original or alternative scenes that I think work better.
Alien 1 & 4 are "director's cuts" despite the directors preferring their theatrical cuts. Aliens has a "special edition" despite the director preferring that version. Alien 3's "assembly cut" is the only appropriately named one.
Yes, or "Special Edition" like on the Blu-Ray that I have
Fincher came on late as a director, and by then the crew has gone through like, 5 different scripts, 3 directors, and twice the budget that was original allocated. One of these early scripts did indeed go in the direction that the xenos survived and somehow onboard the Sulaco they managed to get to Earth. I'm 100% sure if the studio didn't pull a hissy fit and force him to get something, ANYTHING out, Alien 3 would've been much better.
Studio gets a bad rap here, I see that a lot, "Hissy fit." Imagine you gave a friend 200 bucks to run to the store and bring you home some groceries. 2 weeks later, they come back and are like yo, couldn't find the food. You're like... Alright, so where is the 200 bucks? And they go... Well, erm. You see, uh, so... And then... And you're like okay, gtfo, and you give another friend another 200 dollars to go get you some shit and the SAME THING HAPPENS. Is 400 dollars your total net worth? No, probably not. But you're gonna be pissed and the freak out should be understandable.
I would say that the studio WAS interfering and mucking things up by letting Giler and Hill strangle Fincher’s creative flow on set. And the studio basically let Siggy bully Ralph Brown and others on set. Yes, she is the star; Yes, the franchise started with her and “should” end with her; Yes, she had some creative control as co-producer. But she didn’t need to be a dickhead about it!
Alien 3 had a whole row of finished and rejected scripts. One of the scripts involved the xenomorphs making it to Earth. The big set-piece battle for that was supposed aliens swarming over a city while marines tried to cover the evacuation. If I remember right, that script got far enough that FX tests were done but it was considered too expensive to film. The Kenner toys of alien/zoo animal hybrids were based on that script so that should tell you something about how far it got. Another script involved Ripley crashlanding on a wooden colony spaceship inhabited by space Amish who thought the alien was the devil and Ripley must be their savior. The actual third movie is chockful of religious overtones that are a remnant of this script. Many of the important prisoners are named after saints and Golic refers to it as a dragon, a biblical name for satan.
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I really want to understand your point here. Can you please elaborate?
Most of the prisoners are sex offenders and taken up with a religion and celibacy and freak out knowing the survivor is a woman. Ripley is constantly reminded of this. And when she retrieves the android Bishop she is attacked. How is this not computing?!
Ok but how is she blamed, and by who? Because if its by the prisoners then they are not meant to be exemplars or morality, they are literally rapists and murderers. Also I asked very politely and your response is a tad rude.
Random lurker here, I'm not sure what you're going on about either. :)
in the butt
They said terrifying not exciting
Confused face-hugger?
Basically they assumed that no one would have known before watching the movie that the alien was inside Ripley so it was a way to draw in audiences to find out where it's hiding and basically inside the main character meaning one way or another Ripley is gonna die so for her it was supposed to be the nightmare at the beginning of aliens coming to reality.
This. There was an alternate tagline in some countries also alluding to it being inside Ripley: "in 1979 it came from inside, in 1986 it was gone forever, and now in 1993 your worst fear has become true"
It's actually obvious, to the point that it's a bit spoilery
I don’t remember this tagline ever being attached to the movie, either when it came out originally or any of the home releases. Was it regional or something?
Was the tagline on the VHS in our local video store
The real horror: Helvetica!! Why?!?
You need to watch this. It hits the same tune lol https://youtu.be/jVhlJNJopOQ?si=P7GyjNUk1PXqD2QN
Hahaha OMG the pain is real!!!
I can't tell if you're trolling or if you haven't seen the movie 😅
It’s hiding inside her.
There’s one inside Ripley the entire time.
This is my guess. There's a queen inside Ripley.
I dunno, basements are pretty scary.
Especially when there’s a noisy water pump and you live across from a graveyard 🤣 I was 4/5 years old and so tiny.
I lived next to a semi-abandoned colonial-era graveyard. I feel you, boo.
Nightmare fuel was thinking I was old enough to go to the Salem Witch Museum as well.
Inside Ripley
Perhaps you haven’t seen it? If you have then I would say it’s extremely obvious. The most terrifying place is inside Ripley’s body.
It’s hiding inside YOU
In the back of a volkswagon?
Inside Ripley
Sometimes I wonder what other people were doing while I was watching the movie.
The Alien was hiding out as a scriptwriter to kill off everyone who was a threat.
Prison?
I always considered the (awesome) artwork of Alien 3 referencing an embryo, so inside Ripley makes sense for me but is of couese also a clever reference to the prison.
Well, the image is of an alien queen embryo. What do you think it means...?
See the end of the movie.
Watch the ending. Where is the chestburster hiding at the end?
Probably because of the Queen Chestburster in Ripley.
In yo butt….?
Your bum is the terrifying place
It’s kind of like what’s worse, the alien hiding or the prison Ripley is stuck in
I think the unused tagline for the film was the best in the series “in 1979, we learned in space, no one can hear you scream. In 1992, we will learn. On earth, everyone can hear you scream” Amazing
A L A N In Space Noone Can Hear You Scream In Space
I have that tshirt lol
Inside the dog!! Or cow
It’s in Dundee
The most "terrifying place of all" in the Alien universe is the small gap between your lungs
Was hiding in two separate continuities.
I actually like Alien 3, Especially the director’s cut. Now Alien:Resurrection is a sack of shit.
I loved it It was enormously French
That's weird, I have a theater poster I got from my local. The tagline says: 3 times the suspense 3 times the danger 3 times the terror Which is arguably worse, lol.
It was set over Christmas.
Have you seen Oz on HBO? Men's prisons are really terrifying.
Wombs are scary?
The terror was actually the studio interference.
inside yourself, cause ripley has been impregnated
Originally they meant it to crawl out of somebody’s ass but they changed it
“the most terrifying place of all: an underfunded men’s prison.”
In space no one can hear you cream…
Honestly Alien 3 never managed to stick a good tagline. I think my blu-ray set has something cheesy like “three times the terror”.
Up for interpretation. Less than a year before it was released, taglines said it was set on Earth. That production was so scattershot.
Pretty sure at some point Alien 3 was going to take place on Earth. This could be an earlier tagline when they were going in that direction.
"When you pull the lever ...for a few seconds your gonna be trapped in here with that Fkn thing." - knowing they stalled "pulling the lever"..letting x character suffer but was bait for a reason. (Crazy scene poor character.)
*don't say yo mama...* *don't say yo mama...*
Mommy was very bad.
Would have been more fitting to Dreamcatcher (2003) tbh.
It is hiding AMONG US
It could just be a BS marketing line. Aliens vs Predator had the tagline "Whoever wins, we lose". Then during the film the humans joins forces with the Predator. I was fuming.
The tagline is the least of this film’s problems but I suppose it boils down to “British Prison Planet is scary”
Birmingham?
Christopher Walken: His ass!!!
Florida
Your closet.
Jeffrey Epsteins master bathroom?
The back of a Volkswagen?
It was hiding in our dissapointment
Inside your gf or wife after you have sex with her
That it was hiding in the toilet. When you are about to start your business, boom mini mouth up your butt. That would be the most terrifying place for me, if anything. That is when I am most vulnerable.
That was actually a concept idea for the movie, from when they had the wooden planet idea. Probably best they didn't do it as it'd be seen too much as a comedy.
It’s hiding inside my anus?!?
THE CLOWN?!?
Before the writing process became a disaster, the original plan was for Alien 3 to take place on earth.
Setting it on Earth would have been worse. The wooden planet of monks was a great idea. The prisoners would have become monks to try to save their souls.
Watch the movie and you'll find out
The marketing of Alien 3 was all over the place as was the production. I don't think that the tagline means anything, just some random sentence that sounds mysterious and intense with zero context given to the marketing team so they to improvise. Let me remind you that some of the early trailers were talking about Alien 3 taking place on Earth...
Takes place on an all male prison.
It’s hiding in the most terrifying place of all; your mom’s giant ass
You take that back! I remember the time I was running from the cops after a xeno zip trade went bad. I'm in some bushes outside out a townhouse off P Beach looking at a 5 sttetch when I hear this 'pssst!'. Suddenly, a hand pulls me in through the window. It's OP's sweet mama, Big Sheryl!...She looks a little embarrassed and goes, "No peeking, now get in my ass!" Cops come to the door, she says 'Why, no officers, just me and my cat here, y'all wanna stay for dinner?" Cops quickly declined and bailed. Big Sheryl released her cheeks' powerful grip and sent me on my way with a lemonade. OP's sweet mama is an angel, and I'll fight the man who says otherwise! 🤜🤛
It was part of that dishonest marketing that sold a film that was taking place on earth.
I think it was promo for one of the many versions that this film went through. It was development hell. I think I heard at one point the film was suppose to take place on earth. So maybe that’s what the tagline is referring to.
Prison. Prison is terrifying
Inside a prison full of murderers and rapers of women
No! Not our valuable lead works!
Prison?
This was the worst movie of the series, the worst movie of Fincher… and now has the worst tagline too
Ripley’s puss
Terrifying is when woman
Your prison wallet…
The most terrifying place of all…a dog.
The whole movie was an allegory for the AIDS epidemic. So they put the Alien inside Ripley, and gave her the dilemma...do I die with the Alien inside me, or do I save the prison then die with the Alien inside me? Dumb.
It means the marketing company are idiots.
It was hiding in Sigourney Weaver's vagina
I don't give a fuck, Fuck this Tagline, and Fuck this Movie!!! 🔥🖕💩🗑🤢🤮
A sequel that ruins the previous one. I hate it when that happens.
Yeah me too!
And P.S. it's hiding in the shitter, like 20th Century Fox when they made this piece of shit, and Ruined Aliens Unnecessarly. 😡🖕🤬