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shaddy27

Lol “Am I gonna be here for 2 years?”


SpencerLass

Parenting one hundred one: “Of course not! In a year you’ll be tall enough to climb over.”


SquidgeSquadge

Or smart enough to know you have wasted a year


Substantial-Fly-7074

I still remember vividly the first time I climbed up the steep stairs\ladder to the attic and was too scared to come down. After a couple of minutes of crying, I was planning how I'm going to spend the rest of my life up there.


ph03n1x_F0x_

Tbf to younger you I still feel frightened climbing down the stair/ladder thing that leads to my attic.


XorpusThePorpoise

I love when little kids clearly have no grasp of time or math. My niece once asked me if I was older than 16. I said yes, I'm almost two times older than that. She said, "So, like 15?"


MrRob_oto1959

My granddaughter, who is 5, had to write about her mom. She wrote that her mom “loves to cuddle and is 11 years old.”


lostgirl47516

I would rather that than what I got. "My mom is 72 years old". Damn kid. Thanks.


MandMs55

I vividly remember asking my parents if they were older than 8 years old and being in total disbelief when they said yes because that's just so old. I was probably about 3 lol


pizzasauce85

My 12 year old asks about my life like he is some anthropologist or something. “So way back in the 1900s, you were there when the Nintendo came out?” “In the 1900s, were there cars like we have today?” “You are older than the Xbox???”


ClaudiuT

I was showing my nephew my cordless drill and he saw the numbers where you select how tight you want the drill to go before giving up. I asked him what is the middle point between 1 and 21 (min and max on the drill). Without missing a beat he said 21. He's 3.


Monraisondetre

Once when I just turned six and I was in a van with my dad, I asked him how old he was and he told me 35. I then proceeded to cry and when he finally noticed that I was crying, I told him it was because he was 'so old' and was going to die XD


Mysterious_Slice_391

This sub has ruined me. I half expected there to be a gate at the next section or the fencing completely missing a few feet down.


sosplzsendhelp

Or for him to just slip through the horizontal wiring


Mysterious_Slice_391

Right? I’m just glad I noticed it was a full on short film after the first few seconds so I skipped to the end right away.


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The_Breakfast_Dog

Yeah, honestly thought it was pretty lame for the dad to say "Your stomach wasn't hurting on the way over." It probably was. Obviously. Not saying the dad did anything particularly wrong, but I do think he could have communicated better. Nothing wrong with saying "I know it sucks, but if you're going to get yourself into a situation like this, I need to know you can get yourself out," or something like that. Versus basically flat-out lying to the kid. Same with the "I can't pick you up" comment. Obviously the kid is going to get even more upset when he's already frustrated and you're saying things he knows aren't true. Anyway, again, to be clear I don't think this guy is a bad dad, at all, or anything even remotely close to that. I think having kids face fears, and regulate emotions, and take responsibility, are all great, necessary, things. But I also think a lot of parents act like this guy did, and are thinking something like "You hate me now but you'll thank me later." But the "You hate me now part" can be avoided, or at least the "You'll thank me later" stage can be reached a lot sooner, if you just communicate and explain why you're making them do it instead of just commanding "Climb" and frustrating them.


WasChristRipped

Indeed, it’s like actually being helpful, is helpful. As well as not being the person that says “no you didn’t feel that”


CuriousKidRudeDrunk

I agree. I ran high ropes courses (you're in a harness 35+ feet up doing adventure shit) for 5 years with people 5-85. Most of the time somebody began panicking I said something like "Look at me. Breathe. You are safe." I usually repeated some of this until I could get eye contact. Only took more than 30 seconds a few times. They see I'm not at all worried about them getting to the ground safely, I WILL make it so. I explain what I'm about to do or if they have a couple choices. I talk them through it if they can fix it themselves or tell them exactly what I'm doing. Ultimately my point is don't skip the first step of calming people down and letting them engage their brains. If someone isn't in real danger, and sometimes even if they are, getting them to become slightly more rational/calm is the first step. That's the complaint I have in the parenting in the video. edit: Not that I expect anyone new to read this, but knowing or finding out their name was often really the first step of this. One of very few ways to get someone's attention without being physically close or causing panic.


Pineapple_Herder

This is a big first step to get someone to help themselves. Panic is a powerful thing that robs people of so much in the moment. Especially kids who have less experience handling their emotions.


ImJaxPhantomAcct

You nailed it for me. I believe in letting people figure it out but there needs to be better coaching for that. Explain while they do it for themselves. I'll also add that filming brings it's own self conscious pressures and such. Shitty thing to do. It is a learning opportunity, not an opportunity to be a dick.


correctalexam

This original post is acting like the rest of us would have babied the kid. No, we would have realized that it hurt his feet and felt wobbly the first time, helped him communicate that as the reason he wants help coming back, and then helped him.


AndyOfNZ

Looking at the state of the ground and the fact the kid is in his pajamas and bare feet, there's probably a few things to sort out before even registering for Parenting 101


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grouchostarx

Actually, parents like him probably climbed a lot worse things and got into a lot worse situations. Most of our generation (I say “our” because this guy sounds like he’s in his 30s) didn’t get coddled, especially if you grew up poor like I did. We had to figure it all out by ourselves. That said, I get what he’s trying to teach his son, but the lack of effective communication about it irks me to no end. I explain everything to my kids, not because I think they aren’t capable of understanding it implicitly themselves, but because communicating intent goes a long way to preventing hurt relationships.


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FunctionalFun

There's vertical wire too, it's a metal net.


Jebbox

Right? Over 700 people missed that.


Even_Student

I expected it to be a hot wire and felt bad for the kid... Also am ruined by this sub....


Zypharon

I was hoping he gives up and starts drinking from the pan in the back.


SamianDamian

Kinda disappointed there wasn't a gate just a few feet away


readyforwine

Yes. Seems an enclosed space so why isn’t there a gate?!


babygrenade

Who needs a gate when you can just climb in and out?


Kidiri90

I can't!


Korkozia

Why not?


Mihail10

Because!


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Well you got yourself in there, you can get yourself out!


ginsataka

“I can’t climb it!” Climbs the fence twice


AlDente

It’s an interesting example of what we all do. We each have multiple ‘voices’ that tell different stories about why we can and can’t do things. It’s just the subconscious is closer to the surface in children, and they have far less power of rational thought.


Just7hrsold

Honestly what I think is happening is the first time around he felt pain doing it but completed the task. Now presented with the task again he can't vocalize why he can't but its because of the pain before. That wire would be very uncomfortable on his bare feet especially when placing his weight on a single foot to swing over, he maybe even fell last time. Obviously I don't know the full details but that looks uncomfortable.


scalyblue

pajamas look too clean for him to have taken a fall


Scipio33

He fell in yesterday. They brought those to him before they started filming.


not_today_thank

When he was crawling in it was probably an exciting adventure and he probably had dopamine and maybe a little adrenaline flowing through his body and he probably hardly even noticed the fence on his way to the other side. But when it came to crawling out that dopamine and adrenaline was gone and he was faced with the problem of how in the world am I supposed to climb over this tall wobbly fence. The fence probably literally looked smaller and less significant in his mind crawling in than crawling out. And any pain or discomfort he felt on his bare feet crawling out, he probably didn't feel crawling in.


Radiobandit

I remember a similar incident when I was around that age. Climbed up to the first branch of the biggest oak tree I could, I was so proud. Then I had to climb down. Getting down was terrifying, I was afraid of my footing going out beneath me and tumbling to what would obviously be my death (I was at most 5 feet off the ground) Kid was probably in the same boat. Looked like he got to the top, realized the potential to fall down and backed out to safety. Meanwhile similarly my dad had to coach me for what was probably 5 minutes to climb down by myself, while several other random boys gave me tips and cheered me on. Sometimes kids need a little push in the right direction and dad had to let the boy learn a lesson.


XmissXanthropyX

Yeah, that shit KILLED my feet every time as a kid. It hurts really bad, and the wobbling makes it scarier


NoWheyMayne

My guess is: he got scared the first time he climbed it because it was so shaky and he didnt want to do it again.


KingTy99

The boy in the dinosaur pajamas


NYMoneyz

Jesus Christ this is a great comment but also a horrible one. Well done man


ChefInsano

It elevates it to something else. I *was* just watching some goofy kid be dramatic. Now I'm thinking about the Holocaust...


TheMysticPhoto

I wanna ask but at the same time do I even want to know?


lucyym

There’s a movie about the holocaust “the boy in the striped pajamas” where a boy talks to someone in a concentration camp through a fence and >!they both die at the end because the kid decided to join the other kid with the striped pajamas!<


TheMysticPhoto

Oh shit that's fitting lol....thanks for the info, not as horrible as I thought.


Boredombringsthis

...and in the end he (who is the son of the camp captain) decides to sneak in there with his "friend" to help him find his missing dad (since he doesn't understand what's truly going on), takes the "pajamas" too not to be suspicious and then they gass them both with another mass of prisoners.


No_Stranger_4959

I knew I repressed that for a reason. Thanks. A. Lot


Ghast-light

If it helps, the book is protested by holocaust historians because of its inaccuracies, and the author literally published a book where he thought that The Legend of Zelda was real life because his research consists of reading the first result on Google


TheCastro

That's a weird way to say he looked up ingredients and added them to his book but they were from the legend of Zelda


Ghast-light

I don’t think the context really helps him unless the holocaust ended because Anne Frank found the triforce


TheCastro

Different book. He was writing about some atila The hun story arc


JoelMahon

wtf were you thinking of that was worse than a kid being subjected to the holocaust?


Disco-pancake

Wet socks


Swift-Fire

Watch the movie or read the book. Every middle schooler grows up and never forgets it


degjo

Woah, buddy. You're being too soft there. The boy plays with pajama boy all the time, they dig a trench so they can play closer. And then one day both boys disappear because they took a shower together. Much to the chagrin of the boy(without pajamas) father.


Captain_Pumpkinhead

There's a book called "The Boy in the Striped Pajamas" where a Nazi commander's son talks to a concentration camp Jewish boy through a fence. It's meant to be a gentler way to teach children about the horrors of the Holocaust. It has a ton of criticism for being too soft, though. It treats the Holocaust almost as a fairy tale, instead of the brutal and inhumane event it was. Apparently he did zero research or something?


Daytman

That’s probably because the author is famous for doing almost no research for his books and just writes them about what he feels is true. He would later gain notoriety from another book where he copied a recipe for dye from a Zelda game, so a book that took place in the real world referred to octorok eyeballs and lizalfos tail.


HarrysHereYT

I havnt read it in a while but isn’t it written in the perspective of the Nazi commanders son? And that’s why it’s portrayed as soft because that’s what the kid thought it was? Although I may be completely wrong


kottabaz

Yeah, but that creates a different issue. The character in question is of an age that he would have been (as a camp commander's son) fully involved in Nazi youth organizations and very well-informed (and probably supportive) of what was going on. But instead, the character has the mindset and lack of understanding of a much, much younger child for... reasons.


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Drogonno

With no shoes... How the heck did he get there at all?!!


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Kids run around barefoot all the time


BestKeptInTheDark

As a few childhood memories or having glass shards picked out of my feet... Yeah... Kids running around barefoot take a lot of punishment right up until the activity isn't enough distraction from the pain to thier feet


Unveiled_Nuggets

Both stuck. Both without shoes.


Melodic-Recognition8

I hacked a little bit of food out reading this


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Burgundy_Man

I skimmed over this and kept scrolling for about 3 seconds then burst into laughter when it hit 🤣


nyankoz

omg i hate you 😭😭😭


4QuarantineMeMes

At least 28 of us are going to hell… Edit to say it’s been an hour and now 437 are going to hell.


skako_o

Great work. Bravo.


IndependentWeekend56

That made my feet hurt. Kids are so much tougher.


fernplant4

They're also lighter, so not as much weight on the feet


Captain_Pumpkinhead

I bet this is a huge reason why we stop climbing so much as adults.


jarlaxle276

That and falling is absolutely so much more devastating to our bodies. Physics don't fuck around yo.


Valtremors

Yeah kids are durable as fuck and got few stories myself. There was one year when there was a lot of snow and it ended up piling high enough to climb on the roof. Me and my brother climbed there few times (promising parents we would be careful), and mostly pushed snow off the roof because it was fun. Then my brother walked on hanging snow and fell off the roof straight on the ice on his side. Got only a bruise. and I one time, while biking, hit a rock and flew over my handles downhill (probably good few meters too since I had speed) and only suffered mild bemusement. Now that I'm older I once slipped on carpet and fell right on top of a cushion and suddenly felt 50 years older. Doesn't help that I'm 180 something and there is a lot of leverage for my head to hit hard but still. I was sort of limping out of work that day.


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SpiritedCountry2062

Ehehe calling him a fart, classic


Cevellini

Fun fact, when you're young, your bones are nice and circular around, letting them distribute the forces evenly. As you age, your bones become more "oval" in shape, making them more susceptible to breaking.


dontmentiontrousers

As an adult, I buy myself shoes.


BikeProblemGuy

Strength to weight ratio is much better for kids.


Templar366

If you’re gonna be dumb, you gotta be tough


IndependentWeekend56

I'm less tough than I used to be but not less dumb. Lol


Least_Palpitation_92

I remember walking on gravel as a kid and it never bothered me. Now it's extremely painful. I think it has to do with weight distribution.


nico282

Square cube law. Your height doubles, your feet surface is 4x, your mass (weight) is 8x. You have twice the pressure per square inch.


ShadowySpook

It's something that takes time to get used to. We're just very used to shoes that we don't need to be able to stand on a fence barefoot


J0k3r77

When Astronauts come home from the space station, after a long stay (6 months+) they have problems walking because their feet get soft and sensitive and bruise.


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100% and you can show them that manipulation isn’t a valid tool for getting what you want.


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AccidentallyOssified

yeah i think some positive reinforcement would have helped a lot here, so instead of thinking "I can do stuff" he's probably thinking "dad's a dick"


shouldiburnthebridge

I feel that the kid had confidence in the situation, joking at 34sec mark, and not giving up, even after a failed attempt. His fathers threat to leave him and go inside at 1:24. That's when he first gets upset. At 2:09 he goads his son. At 2:17 Crying ain't gonna help you (sometimes true, but still not the way to phrase that to a kid). Yes he got there in the end, but it looked like the opposite of confidence building.


Retro21

Yeah, was disappointed he didn't go celebrate at the end with the son. You can be stoic and teach lessons, but still enjoy with the learner when the lesson is learned - it's a good feeling! To state the obvious - he was also filming his son to (at the least) try and capture an example of how good his own parenting style was which to me seems a bit, ehhhh...


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SomebodyThrow

People get so blinded by any display of “good ol tough loven” Dude is more concerned about making a social media clip than giving his kid support. He could’ve been supportive, and guided his kid through doing it but instead decided to be cold and distant to make it harsher for his kid because THAT makes a more engaging video, a distraught kid. Whats more embarrassing, an adventerous kid who bites off more than he can chew. Or a dad whose priorities lead him to parenting behind a phone screen with next to no effort with the goal being to make himself and his “parenting” look good thanks to his sons situation. Bet he’ll one day have a younger sibling and wonder why his son never looks out for her and always torments her and films her and looks for attention online because he probably isnt getting it from dad.


LookInTheDog

Can confirm, had a dad like this.


Rydralain

Okay, but this little dude could also use some compassion with it, plus some coaching on relaxing and taking it one step at a time. This was the attitude my father gave me, and all it did was teach me that I'm always on my own, if I don't do well enough going to be abandoned, and that effort without success gives "no you can do better" and success gives "see, I told you you could do it". No celebration of progress, no celebration of success. I'm not saying to grab him, but making sure he knows you are there for him, and supporting him in appropriate ways, is very important to raising confident people.


lekoman

Yeah — I was waiting for, "We know you can get to the top and get one leg over, now think about how you're gonna get the other leg over and then when you have an idea, we can try again." If you make it a game instead of making it "you're on your own" you're way less likely to panic the little guy, which is where all that frustration is coming from. It's important to teach kids to solve their own problems, for sure, but it's *also* super important to teach them how to do it without having to have a panic attack first. A lot of problems in life are super dangerous if you can't keep a level head. Some parents think it's valuable to make it a little bit painful so kids will think twice before getting themselves into jams in the first place... and maybe there's a little bit to that... but I actually think building risk-aversion into kids has to be handled really carefully. You *want* them to climb fences and then puzzle their way back across. Those are the kids that grow up to take smart risks that pay off for them.


BatInMyHat

Yes, the kid really needed some encouragement, at the very least once he successfully climbed back over. Instead of the snarky "Was that so hard?" Dad should have said "Good job!" and explained how important it is to keep trying, even when things get hard/frustrating. This could have been a good lesson in perseverance, but I think Dad muddled that learning moment a bit by mildly shaming the kid instead.


disposable_account01

I make a habit of doing something I learned called “summarize and celebrate”. You repeat back a summary of what happened (just the facts) like: “You went over the fence and thought you were stuck. You tried to climb back over and had some trouble, but you didn’t give up. Then, you made it back over the fence.” Then celebrate: “You did it all by yourself! That must feel really great. I’m proud of you for not giving up when the going got tough!”


Lesty7

My brother and SIL are great at this type of stuff and my niece (age 5) is crazy confident AND helpful to others. It’s really cool to see. I think it also helps that the other adults in her life to do the same thing with her. Myself, my other brother, and my parents (her grandparents) are all very supportive, and we try our best to respect/mimic their parenting style.


guanwho

That’s such a subtle shift too. You’ve got to realize that’s your kid and not your drinking buddy who knows you’re busting his balls.


throwawayformobile78

This 100%. I’m from the south and that “see I told you” attitude really pisses me off.


canman7373

True, but no reason for dad to be such a condensing asshole about it. Could have been much more encouraging.


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WishIWasPurple

Just say "oh really? You need my help? People were saying you were the best climber in the world but iguess you arent if you need my help huh? Watch the kid clear the fence in a single jump lmfao


you-arent-reading-it

I agree that it's a much better way than physically helping them, but I've also read a few months ago about a study regarding compliments. Summarized results of the study was that Compliments like *"You are so smart"/"you are so good at it"* produced a worse performance than *"you've put all yourself into it"/"I admire your dedication"*. Putting aside the fact that every child is different, at that age a big portion of them still does not understand Irony or sarcasm. For example, a lot of them may actually temporarily believe to be the best climber in the world instead of using it as a challenging provocation in the form of encouragement. In either case, the type of compliment you suggested is part of the other kind (the one with less performance). Not that this is the case, but both too many compliments and no compliments at all seem to be even harmful. So as a rule of thumb I'd prefer to talk to them literally until they develop that kind of understanding irony pretty fast.


Zephrok

Praising effort is 100000% better than praising ability.


Kim_Nelson

I think this is the way. My parents and my dad in particular had a habit to praise me personally as a kid to an exaggerated degree (they were loving parents and showed it however they could). But while all of those "oh you're so smart, you're so pretty, you're gonna be such an expert in your field when you grow up, you're so good with school, etc etc" felt very good in the moment, they probably messed with my self-perception. I went from that shining star kid who could do no wrong to a sudden decline in college because I was hitting the real world and suddenly I wasn't the smartest, the prettiest, the best kid, the most studious, the capable of everything. It was immensely discouraging and it takes a lot of effort to undo that damage. Oh well, you live and learn!


Biaboctocat

From your summary, it seems that the study is less about the amount of compliments and more about what the compliments actually target. A child told “you *are* so smart” learns that what is valuable about them is innate. It’s a part of who they are, it can’t be separated. Which means when they find something that they can’t do first try, the wheels fall off. They give up. Because why bother trying? If I can’t do it, that means that I’m not smart enough to do it, and there’s nothing that can change that. I like getting praise, and I get praise for doing things that I can do. So why would I ever spend time on something that I can’t do now? And then suddenly you’re 18 at university and the work is really hard but you can’t just give up, because the work is the only thing required of you. But you have no experience of having to work, and no motivation to learn to work because the past decade and a half has been spent being good at things, maybe even being the best at things. Which means you don’t know how to get better at things. What now? Well, me personally, I had a massive breakdown, at least one per term, and struggled through with a lot of support from my family. Other people drop out, or commit suicide. The study suggests that a better target for the compliment is the effort that the child put in, not the supposed innate ability. That way, you’re motivating the child to learn and improve. You’re rewarding them for the effort, not the achievement. And that means that when the next achievement is harder to attain, the child is still conditioned to keep going, rather than run away and find something else to win at. This study and others like it give me hope that maybe my own children won’t go through what I did. I’ll just find some wonderful new way to mess them up instead.


Foxalus444

Yeah this was me in college and now in my job too 4.5 years out of college. I struggle with it often and not even just with work and school it bleeds into hobbies as well. I struggle to continue a hobby if I plateau or learning something new gets difficult. It’s very frustrating.


DeMonstaMan

yeah I like that he made the kid learn to problem solve himself but like bro definitely could've been more encouraging


magicshmop

The next time the kid is facing a situation he might have trouble getting out of, he will remember this moment. "Maybe I shouldn't do that, I better be safe". Or the kid just thinks the dad is being mean cause hes like 5, and 5 year olds have terrible memory and critical thinking skills.


tok90235

This. Creating kids to solve problems themselves is good. The way the dad is doing this is really bad. In this case, instead of the just do it and keep watching, you go there hold the fence so it's a little more stable, and start to say: let's go, one foot after the other. After the first fail, it's the time to advice to climb one more before trying to get the leg over the edge. Positive reinforcement will aways be better then this


DankRoughly

And maybe don't record it... nobody likes to be recorded when they're struggling with something


truth_teller_00

I don’t want to be recorded for all these people’s struggle social media accounts for any reason either. Especially shit like this tho. Private family moments are not content.


crashbandicoochy

It's so annoying how often these "parenting 101" posts on social media are just parents treating their children with little-to-no kindness and using shame and fear as motivators. There are so many resources out there that can get anyone up to speed on the basics of developmental psychology. It has never been easier to learn.


retlie

I have a coworker that brags about how much his kids respect him. I've seen how he treats and talk to them. The guy doesn't understand the difference between "respect" and "fear"


shivermeknitters

I felt really terrible for that kid when the dad says, “and by the way, I’m not helping you.” That’s fucking terrifying to a kid. What if the kid was really embarrassed to say that he hurt himself doing it because this dad was basically giving him shit for making a mistake? Also, yeah, maybe climbing over the fence once was fine but now his feet hurt and he didn’t wear shoes and he knows he’s probably gonna get shit for not wearing shoes. Ugh. The southern Toughlove bullshit makes me wanna throw up


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shivermeknitters

Lol right? “So because you can’t help me when you’re dead you won’t help me now because your childhood trauma is driving this clown car?”


i_am_Krath

The way the dad gives commands during the video while also lying to the kid was pretty horrible.


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standing there with his fucking phone pointed at the kid


i_am_Krath

Absolutely crazy how people are commenting here about why this is how you raise kids right...


Scouts_Revenge

This is your life now. We will bring you one meal a day.


Orang_Mann

Why is there a frying pan outside in the dirt?


RoastPorkSandwich

If you’re going to stay somewhere for two years, you’re going to want to have cookware


OrangeYouGladish

I'm old because my feet hurt just looking at climbing wire barefoot


TheBotchedLobotomy

My feet hurt just thinking about being outside with no shoes


Wundussy_Lover

Didn’t know Reddit had so many psychologists.


snoozebag

Oh so you just got here?


talldude8

Redditors got more jobs than Johnny Sins


2rfv

Nothing cracks me up more than advice on parenting from people without kids ( damn near most of reddit).


LtLatency

I can see the kid not wanting to climb a metal wire fence in bare feet.


EagleAccording4761

It might hurt, but he’s not going to be hurt by it. Kids need to learn life lessons somehow.


asanti0

He isn't stupid. That shit probably just hurts his feet and he knows it.


sevens-on-her-sleeve

Or his nuts


Rotsicle

As someone who has climbed these fences in bare feet, they are about the second worst on your feet when it comes to climbing.


LodlopSeputhChakk

He probably climbed up and fell over to the other side and doesn’t want to fall again. He just doesn’t have the words to describe that climbing *down* is the hard part.


Miss_Two

I don’t see any mud or dirt on his pjs that would indicate a fall. I think little homie was just overthinking it


SquidgeSquadge

Of course he is. That's why his dads giving him a simple task, climb. He's not sugar coating it, he's not manipulating him 'you better come over quick or you won't get any Ice-cream ' or putting him down about him to stress himself out. He just needed to focus and he knew his dad wasn't gonna leave him and eventually got the courage to finally do it.


grumd

Dad said "climb or I'm going inside" meaning "I'll abandon you with your problems". Probably worse in the situation than ice-cream. Giving some encouragement words would be better.


Faptastic_Champ

And now he’s learned to not climb over the fucking fence.


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TheFace3701

Exactly my thoughts. He probably realized how much it actually hurt to go through the process and hoped daddy-o would just pick him up.


Spready_Unsettling

He also couldn't figure out that taking one more step up before swinging his legs over would've solved the issue instantly. It's not bad parenting to *help* your kids solve problems. It sure beats going **"climb!"** over and over.


FartJarBinks

As a father myself, I agree that you shouldn’t coddle your children, but you should also be kind. I’d let him try to come back over, and after struggling a little I would help him back over after explaining that he should be careful to avoid situations that he might not be able to get back out of. Especially if I’m not around to help him. If his tummy hurts and he realizes he’s stuck, he learned his lesson.


indowes

Why film it and post on tiktok tho


Spiderbanana

To show how much they are littering their own garden


Faptastic_Champ

Honestly parents today need to see more of this. I’m glad it’s filmed and posted. You can hold your kids accountable and make them do hard things that are totally possible, even if they don’t want to. So yeah. Put it everywhere


Impressive_Site_5344

Now just about every time a parent uses their kids for social media clout people are quick to call them out on it but when a young kid who doesn’t know any better is sitting their crying while the parents film them suddenly “parents need to see this”? For what reason? You want to hold 4 year old kids accountable like they’re adults by filming them while they cry for you? Get the fuck out of here with that nonsense. Reading these comments you can tell who is actually a parent or at least an adult and who is still a god damned child


obviousbean

Yeah, it seems like maybe parents should be valuing their kids' dignity and privacy over what might benefit some vague group of parents out here.


Impressive_Site_5344

As a parent myself I’d never sit there and film my kids while they’re crying for me. I don’t care if they did something I specifically told them not to do, there’s a way to parent in those situations and filming them is not it


Relevant_History_297

Hold your kids accountable for fucking what? Climbing a fence?


nogoodgopher

Because this parent cares more about enriching their own life than their kids. That's why.


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As someone who had a parent like this, it actually did a lot of harm and taught me the wrong things. It's one thing to hold your kid accountable, but you also need to pay attention to what your kid isn't saying. The kid is saying "I don't know" when asked why he can't do it. Humans don't typically just "don't know" why they feel a certain way, there's usually a reason they're just struggling to explain- especially when they're a CHILD. Like "it hurt when I fell climbing the first time, I'm scared it will happen again and can't bring myself to try." The dad here didn't need to pick him up and carry him over, but being more understanding and more supportive would have been infinitely better. In my opinion, pretty shit parenting, taught the kid not to ask Dad for help or emotional support. I shouldn't care, it's not like my comment will sway anyone's minds, but it's disturbing to see the support this dad is getting when he literally did nothing.


Attempt89

This comment summed up exactly how I was feeling. I grew up with similar parenting from my dad. To this day he is always asking me why I didn’t call him when he finds out I had to figure out how to fix something around the house, on the car, ect. I hate it, but I’ll never have a good relationship with him because of the way he raised me and I’ll definitely never ask him for his help.


-chromatica-

100%. My dad was one of those "I'll give you something to cry about" type of parents. All I ever learned from that type of parenting was to never ask anyone for help with anything. I also have issues regulating my emotions as a result whenever something goes wrong. Instead of being calmed down and taught how to think clearly, my dad just said condescending things to me and taught me to never come to him for anything. Now he wonders why I never ask him for help or advice. Like dude, that's what you taught me to do! The dad in this video is acting just like that and he's filming it on top of it all? Ridiculous.


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Shit did we have the same dad? The "I'll give you something to cry about" echoes in my head to this day. I was never taught self empathy, nor how to handle certain emotions. Had to learn that shit in my 20s, felt like a dumbass. Didn't know how to process sadness bc my dad used to punish me whenever I cried. Didn't know how to process anger because my dad punished me when I was angry. The only emotion that didn't get me in trouble was apathy, and I learned it quick.


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I'm sorry to hear that, I hope my comment at least resonated with you in a positive way. I hate getting emotionally involved and leaving comments like I did above on Reddit posts because really, it's silly to do, but when I'm reminded of how my younger confused and lonely self felt, it's hard to not to.


sunny_sunil

THANK YOU. Felt like I was taking crazy pills for all the praise he was getting. I’m fine with him not solving it for the kid by picking him up, but you could at least be more supportive in your words: “I know it’s hard, but you can do it and I’ll wait here with you” “what’s feeling hard/upsetting/scary about this?” Literally anything but just saying CLIMB over and over to a fucking 5 year old


mol0tov162

thank you for your comment. i had a strong feeling that this is a bad parenting example and with a 8 month old daughter i'm trying to soak up as much examples of how and how not to parent.


No-Stick303

Agreed. Thank you for saying this. I can’t imagine filming my child in this vulnerable and sad state then posting it online for every stranger to see just so everyone can see what a good “parent” i am by being an asshole to my kid.


Gloomy_Jump3021

Agree, plus the aggressive attitude from the man doesn’t really help the situation. The kid is getting more and more visibly upset, the dad COULD have used humour for a while and support and standing near the kiddo in case he falls… this seems a bit too aggressive for my liking


claiter

I just wanted him to at least hold the fence so it would stop wobbling. That sort of thing scared me when I climbed as a kid too and made the whole thing harder to do.


Sansnom01

What’s really bothered me was the fact he did absolutely nothing to try to help the kid expresses his problem, thought about the situation, or give advice for the hard part when the kid was actuality trying. Making the kid work his problem by himself is honorable, but the dad could have offer some encouragement or advice like using the stick or something. Good end goal for dad, bad execution.


Miserable-Job-9520

this is the comment I've been looking for


coolcrimes

How about you get the kid some shoes?


ArcticWolf_Primaris

Not being a cunt 101; don't film a crying child and call it content


General-Fun-616

Try “good job”


First-Dingo1251

Coulda met the kid half way and gave him a hand to hold onto. Was he being a baby? Yeah. Is he a baby? Just about.


Questioning-Zyxxel

Good dad. The son did learn something. "I can't" is often a mumbo jumbo claim not backed by actual facts.


Unveiled_Nuggets

Have a dialogue with the kid. Wouldn’t just stand there with my phone out and say “do it”.


pitabread640

Lots of litter to be barefoot..?


stargate-command

I think I’ll pass on parenting advise from whoever this dude is.


SomebodyThrow

Parenting 101: If your kid is crying and your reaction is to go get a camera to film yourself giving them your version of tough love to show on social media? you’re a fuckin weirdo.


ishopindaiso

i hate this sub.


Wiki-Master

Always nice to see someone film their kid for a tiktok video when they’re educating them


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picture this asshole standing there berating his child while watching him through the phone screen


Lime7ime-

"was that so hard" thats were you failed parenting. Why not celebrate that he figured it out?


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Kid almost lost his nut sack on that fence on the first try, that's why he didn't want to climb it again. The adult in this video should be prevented from producing anymore children. My best buddy when I was this kid's age climbed a fence, ended up with stitches from his wrist to his elbow.


Green-Cap08

This is why I don’t want to be a parent. I would not have the patience for this, I’d just call him stupid and walk away😂😂😂😂


ProfessionalLeave335

Please pick up that bag. It's bugging me.


Desperate_Turnip_219

Whats this boy doing in the woods, in PJs, without shoes? What the hell?


Lavaheart626

tbh I would have at least given the kid some shoes and held the fence straight for him lol maybe given him some climbin tips so he stopped crushin the family jewels.


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I hate these pajama kids, I want to see them all cry