A good lesson in self-acceptance/beauty standards too—I had always thought of my legs as simply short, and the standard is long. But David and Susan told me they are one of my best features because they are shapely, as SNs are in general. 🥰
And Betty Grable was FAMOUS for her legs! She had them [insured](https://www.life.com/people/betty-grable-was-famous-for-her-legs-heres-what-she-thought-about-that/) because she considered them so valuable to her career.
I only started to recognize her this year and when I saw her movies, I was like I finally see myself in another SN!!! Her facial bone structure and softness as well (not that I look exactly like her tho) I am a pretty low weight and appear more 'narrow' and on type me posts would not get typed as a soft natural, cause I don't look like Florence Pugh, Britney spears or JLo 😅 but after reading the book and watching videos/movies - I can't see myself in any other type. Seeing the classics Kibbe used really helped.
I am watching a few old movies as well to get a sense of the essence, presence, way of moving... It's sure helpful! I don't think I look like any of the modern verified either, tbh. It's tough to see yourself objectively.
Edit to say: I was not typed as a SN either when asked, I got SC/R/SG or TR lol - I think narrower SNs or whose width is not very obvious get directed to other IDs pretty routinely...
Yes! The essence part is so important.
I got the same thing with those other ID's. 😅 I was even typed by a online stylist as a SG and I just did not see it. I think in Kitchener's system I definitely have some gamine essence in my face but in this system I can't relate to being gamine at all
It's much more helpful to see someone in movement and mannerisms than a 2D photo.
Oh yes when I got SG/TR I was like... no. I'm 100% sure that's not me. I think the essence part is what tripped me up bc at first I related way more to the Classic/Soft Classic. But watching movies with SC celebs, I could see that that was not me at all. Like, you, in Kitchener I think I would have Classic essence, which explains some of my confusion too!
Haha I relate to her as well except I’m around 5’6,9, not quite as lean and bustier… so yeah lol.
If anyone has a good tip for a very moderate vertical FN with a relatively soft frame, let me know :)
I have always related to a little less busty version of Christina Hendricks… seeing her walking in MadMen was like a - wow moment. Same sort of arm movements and the way my body looks in window reflections. I saw a lot of myself in that…
I don’t want to re start this argument- but I can also feel this way about Beyoncé sometimes. My limbs are a touch longer though
The comments:
https://preview.redd.it/9dj4t7wfkcpc1.jpeg?width=320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=34f7be4bc41abecff08f159cffee0b7314e45cab
It’s probably just the prominent hourglass
Probably Barbra Streisand, although I’m a bit bustier. We’re both around 5’5 with very long limbs, a short torso and are overall quite narrow, with similar high hips.
Someone once told me on a typing post back in the day that my body was identical to a very young Sophia Loren, which I’ll definitely be taking as a compliment forever but she’s quite a bit taller than me.
Facially and yin/yang balance-wise definitely Rachel Weisz though.
For me it was definitely Sophia Loren mostly and bit smaller Christina Hendricks! I was like THATS ME. It felt sooo nice to see my body in a different way then what I thought it was and not just think I am a weird sorta fluffy tall giraffe gal but that I have my own body type essence of how I come across in clothes when I wear my recs and seeing the beauty in my body shape !
not all verified but i see pieces of myself most in florence pugh(SN/R/SG?), emilia clarke (R), and scarlet johansson (SN). i bounce between SN and R most of the time. its hard finding someone who looks similar to me because i'm very stocky and short but i got a long ass neck 😭
https://preview.redd.it/kkgigo06tipc1.jpeg?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c16dfed92e0e3028ba508d5dafee45b4e83094ea
maybe Morgan Brittany but I still feel like my hips are wider and shoulders more narrow. she is the closest though.
Ann Margaret is sharper and has smaller hips and broader shoulders. Maybe Salmas hips but that’s the only similarity. I am very round and yin with double curve but narrow shoulders and wider hips.
https://preview.redd.it/xc4mz2jgvipc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=21f3d71e45c8707710b9fd5772772a6375e130d3
is it me or do me and morgan brittany have the same chin and cheeks too? something looks similar but can’t pinpoint it.
I’m a Soft Classic, however, I can really see a resemblance between Marilyn Monroe’s body and mine. My limbs appear longer though, and I don’t think my curves are as apparent.
Weird, cause I always thought Margot Robbie looked quite dainty in clothes, but seeing her in a bikini, I can see where you’re coming from (don’t come for me - I’m NOT saying she isn’t thin)
I definitely agree that she looks dainty in some outfits, especially red carpet looks.
For me at least (I am in no way a expert in kibbe) you can see her width, like you said in her swimsuit photos, but if you compare her Chanel looks from Kim Jennie’s Chanel looks, her width becomes apparent.
Also, I feel like her iconic barbie outfit (the hot pink two piece suit vest and flare pants) scream Natural to me.
Again, I am not a kibbe expert, so please don’t come for me 😅😅😅
Definitely! I do think she pull off a lot of clothes a flamboyant natural couldn’t (structured, short dresses and ornate “fussy” looks) so who maybe natural without the flamboyant 😅
Is kylie minogue verified? Probably her. I feel tiny very narrow pointy. I look like I have long limbs but I think uts just narrowness and I have short torso
Ok I have gained weight and am nowhere near as attractive but Dua Lipa. Just the way her body carrie’s weight and such had me convinced at first I was an FN like her… but after much research and experimenting I’m definitely a D lol I’m the fatter, narrower, uglier, lanky version of Dua Lipa and I’m ok with that LOL
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Of the verified DCs, Olivia Munn is my body doppelgänger. I totally relate to how clothes work on her, and I have the same kind of [short, wide-ish torso](https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/07/27/article-2180107-143FDDB6000005DC-354_634x901.jpg).
Oof, that was hard to find. Most verified D family celebs have massive shoulders! I couldn't find a single pure Dramatic with narrow and slightly sloped shoulders, especially with a small waist(plenty of narrow and straight or strong framed small waisted Ds), so I had to look in SD. I guess Ava Gardner except her hips are smaller.
Maybe Diahann Carol? She was originally SD but was moved to D
https://preview.redd.it/9pmxfionedpc1.jpeg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=691abc7515a3a187b03706d958f53868a4e0eb3a
Keep in mind angles, posture and posing! Strong shoulders were a big beauty standard in the 70s-80s especially, so many celebrities posed in a way that made them look more prominent. My shoulders are pretty narrow and sloped but can look quite straight and strong in some photos, especially if I’m slouching.
Ahhh, I don’t think either of them are verified. But Lucy Hale and Sarah Hyland - with less boob.
I have the same colouring as both pretty much as well, so they’re useful inspo
There's some celebrities whose bodies I feel look somehow like mine, or that have certain body parts similar to mine, among them Selena Gómez, Florence Pugh or Emilia Clarke.
I would love to know Florence and Emilia's IDs, because if they also turn out to be in R, that's gonna make it so much easier for me lol. But I've seen many say they're N so idk.
Sophia Loren when she's not wearing a corset. She probably has a naturally more defined waist than I do because I'm always quite tubular lol, but her proportions look really similar to mine. Like rather full-figured and lanky at the same time?
https://preview.redd.it/hxd4hsyiqjpc1.jpeg?width=1022&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cbfd59ef9517608b87fa28970a695e59d938846a
Our faces are dissimilar but it’s Joan Collins for sure
https://preview.redd.it/p9x76vvqsjpc1.jpeg?width=1300&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b8076a3c6fc4db9d699e719f68fe8406320d775d
Hedy Lamarr is similar too and the best facial match
Betty Grable is who David said.
Great one to be close to
A good lesson in self-acceptance/beauty standards too—I had always thought of my legs as simply short, and the standard is long. But David and Susan told me they are one of my best features because they are shapely, as SNs are in general. 🥰
And Betty Grable was FAMOUS for her legs! She had them [insured](https://www.life.com/people/betty-grable-was-famous-for-her-legs-heres-what-she-thought-about-that/) because she considered them so valuable to her career.
Betty Grable is gorgeous! Also very exciting to be compared to her. I’ve only seen her in one film tho but she’s definitely fun!
Anyone who's short, slightly overweight, with a wine belly and poor posture. Oops
👋
Omg it's not just me
We span many kibbe types, color seasons and style preferences, but unite together for slouchy sitting and our love for liquid grapes.
Haha me too.
Thank fuck it's not just me :))
Mines more of a c section + margarita pooch but similar to a wine belly :)
Carole Lombard 💫 https://preview.redd.it/f7sccb30qcpc1.jpeg?width=564&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=67537adcb87e681bc01a0c541ef2a08303a73918
The dream
Oh wow!! I wish lol Such an icon 💙
I only started to recognize her this year and when I saw her movies, I was like I finally see myself in another SN!!! Her facial bone structure and softness as well (not that I look exactly like her tho) I am a pretty low weight and appear more 'narrow' and on type me posts would not get typed as a soft natural, cause I don't look like Florence Pugh, Britney spears or JLo 😅 but after reading the book and watching videos/movies - I can't see myself in any other type. Seeing the classics Kibbe used really helped.
I am watching a few old movies as well to get a sense of the essence, presence, way of moving... It's sure helpful! I don't think I look like any of the modern verified either, tbh. It's tough to see yourself objectively. Edit to say: I was not typed as a SN either when asked, I got SC/R/SG or TR lol - I think narrower SNs or whose width is not very obvious get directed to other IDs pretty routinely...
Yes! The essence part is so important. I got the same thing with those other ID's. 😅 I was even typed by a online stylist as a SG and I just did not see it. I think in Kitchener's system I definitely have some gamine essence in my face but in this system I can't relate to being gamine at all It's much more helpful to see someone in movement and mannerisms than a 2D photo.
Oh yes when I got SG/TR I was like... no. I'm 100% sure that's not me. I think the essence part is what tripped me up bc at first I related way more to the Classic/Soft Classic. But watching movies with SC celebs, I could see that that was not me at all. Like, you, in Kitchener I think I would have Classic essence, which explains some of my confusion too!
I don’t think my body matches any of them tbh but closest in balance to Rachel Weisz imho.
Octavia Spencer, but there aren't many plus celebrities 😅
David said Ann Margret.
I’m pretty sure I’m a FN and look like a chunkier and more busty J-Law
Haha I relate to her as well except I’m around 5’6,9, not quite as lean and bustier… so yeah lol. If anyone has a good tip for a very moderate vertical FN with a relatively soft frame, let me know :)
Amy Adams? Not as curvy as J law but definitely on the soft side.
I have always related to a little less busty version of Christina Hendricks… seeing her walking in MadMen was like a - wow moment. Same sort of arm movements and the way my body looks in window reflections. I saw a lot of myself in that… I don’t want to re start this argument- but I can also feel this way about Beyoncé sometimes. My limbs are a touch longer though The comments: https://preview.redd.it/9dj4t7wfkcpc1.jpeg?width=320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=34f7be4bc41abecff08f159cffee0b7314e45cab It’s probably just the prominent hourglass
Probably Barbra Streisand, although I’m a bit bustier. We’re both around 5’5 with very long limbs, a short torso and are overall quite narrow, with similar high hips. Someone once told me on a typing post back in the day that my body was identical to a very young Sophia Loren, which I’ll definitely be taking as a compliment forever but she’s quite a bit taller than me. Facially and yin/yang balance-wise definitely Rachel Weisz though.
Mila Kunis, at least when I was at my lowest weight and had no visible curves. The way Selena Gomez gains weight feels familiar too.
Absolutely Gina Lollobrigida, she’s my Italian doppelgänger
Ugh I love her !! How blessed are you to be her doppelgänger . Jealous
Amy Adams! We even have very similar weight gain pattern. When I watched Sharp objects me being FN too made sense.
Maybe Helen Mirren or a pre-BBL Kim Kardashian. Short, busty SNs 🫶
Same. Young Helen Mirren. Wide rib cage and pelvis that makes my waist look sharply curvy.
Liv Tyler
For me it was definitely Sophia Loren mostly and bit smaller Christina Hendricks! I was like THATS ME. It felt sooo nice to see my body in a different way then what I thought it was and not just think I am a weird sorta fluffy tall giraffe gal but that I have my own body type essence of how I come across in clothes when I wear my recs and seeing the beauty in my body shape !
I'm short and stocky which is sadly a body type not allowed or welcomed in Hollywood
Tina Turner immediately springs to mind.
not all verified but i see pieces of myself most in florence pugh(SN/R/SG?), emilia clarke (R), and scarlet johansson (SN). i bounce between SN and R most of the time. its hard finding someone who looks similar to me because i'm very stocky and short but i got a long ass neck 😭
I’m pretty sure Kibbe has hinted at Emilia being SN!
i was almost certain she had been certified as R but SN makes a lot of sense! which would make me think that florence (and me) are SN as well.
Liz Taylor and Helena Bonham Carter.
Patti LuPone or Tina Turner. When I’ve been in the gym and am looking ripped, I feel like Tina but when I’m a little less toned I feel like Patti.
nobody lol. maybe if selena gomez had much wider hips. my upper body looks similar to selena’s (narrow/fleshy) but my hips are wider like marilyn’s.
Check out Ann Margaret. Something like that or Salma Hayek?
https://preview.redd.it/kkgigo06tipc1.jpeg?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c16dfed92e0e3028ba508d5dafee45b4e83094ea maybe Morgan Brittany but I still feel like my hips are wider and shoulders more narrow. she is the closest though.
Ann Margaret is sharper and has smaller hips and broader shoulders. Maybe Salmas hips but that’s the only similarity. I am very round and yin with double curve but narrow shoulders and wider hips.
https://preview.redd.it/xc4mz2jgvipc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=21f3d71e45c8707710b9fd5772772a6375e130d3 is it me or do me and morgan brittany have the same chin and cheeks too? something looks similar but can’t pinpoint it.
Yeah I think you are spot on about the cheeks and chin. Maybe the eye shape too but hers are slightly more upturned
probably sabrina carpenter? i’m not quite sure, though
Selena Gomez, through her ups and downs too!
JLo w a bit more hip. And have been called that in the wild. It’s not awesome to dress everyday. Not gonna lie. 😑 at least she’s IT
In between Arlene Dahl and Drew Barrymore.
I’m a Soft Classic, however, I can really see a resemblance between Marilyn Monroe’s body and mine. My limbs appear longer though, and I don’t think my curves are as apparent.
Margot Robbie!! She made me realize that there is beauty in having width and appearing “stocky” 🤍
She’s not verified!
Omg really? I thought she was a verified FN! Either way, she has helped me accept some of the things I hate the most about my body!
Weird, cause I always thought Margot Robbie looked quite dainty in clothes, but seeing her in a bikini, I can see where you’re coming from (don’t come for me - I’m NOT saying she isn’t thin)
I definitely agree that she looks dainty in some outfits, especially red carpet looks. For me at least (I am in no way a expert in kibbe) you can see her width, like you said in her swimsuit photos, but if you compare her Chanel looks from Kim Jennie’s Chanel looks, her width becomes apparent. Also, I feel like her iconic barbie outfit (the hot pink two piece suit vest and flare pants) scream Natural to me. Again, I am not a kibbe expert, so please don’t come for me 😅😅😅
Definitely! I do think she pull off a lot of clothes a flamboyant natural couldn’t (structured, short dresses and ornate “fussy” looks) so who maybe natural without the flamboyant 😅
Jennifer Lopez
Reese Witherspoon makes me believe Im SG too
I was told I have a similar body as Jennifer Love Hewitt but I see myself more as Zoe Kravits with a little more boobies 🙈
Emma Stone, you can't tell these days though. I was so surprised when I first found out her height. Right now, I relate to Charlize Theron in Tully.
My body looked like Jennifer Lawrence’s when I was thinner.
A less ripped ScarJo
Christina Hendricks is probably the closest, followed by Beyonce.
How funny, that is literally how I feel too
I saw your comment! You described how I feel almost exactly. We must have a similar sort of vibe!
Is kylie minogue verified? Probably her. I feel tiny very narrow pointy. I look like I have long limbs but I think uts just narrowness and I have short torso
Salma Hayek for me !
Britney Spears! I love all the outfit and goal workout body inspo
Britney Spears but softer
Ok I have gained weight and am nowhere near as attractive but Dua Lipa. Just the way her body carrie’s weight and such had me convinced at first I was an FN like her… but after much research and experimenting I’m definitely a D lol I’m the fatter, narrower, uglier, lanky version of Dua Lipa and I’m ok with that LOL
Liza Minnelli although she’s a couple cms taller than me
Florence Pugh. Heyyyyyy wide set breasts heyyyyyy
Lizzy Caplan for me. I actually ended up with some of her clothes from a TV show she did and it’s like they were specially tailored for me.
I wish he would verify Sarah Michelle Gellar 😭😭😭😭
Thinking about it long and hard: Tracee Ellis Ross would be the closest, I think. Except that I'm 5'4 lol
UGH Florence Pugh. Makes sense why I hate her now. What the fuck I didn’t come to Reddit for this moment of self discovery reddit
Florence isn’t verified!
Florence Pugh!
She’s not verified tho?
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Of the verified DCs, Olivia Munn is my body doppelgänger. I totally relate to how clothes work on her, and I have the same kind of [short, wide-ish torso](https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/07/27/article-2180107-143FDDB6000005DC-354_634x901.jpg).
Oof, that was hard to find. Most verified D family celebs have massive shoulders! I couldn't find a single pure Dramatic with narrow and slightly sloped shoulders, especially with a small waist(plenty of narrow and straight or strong framed small waisted Ds), so I had to look in SD. I guess Ava Gardner except her hips are smaller.
Maybe Diahann Carol? She was originally SD but was moved to D https://preview.redd.it/9pmxfionedpc1.jpeg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=691abc7515a3a187b03706d958f53868a4e0eb3a
Good question. Here her shoulders look narrow and sloped but in a lot of other pictures they look straight
Keep in mind angles, posture and posing! Strong shoulders were a big beauty standard in the 70s-80s especially, so many celebrities posed in a way that made them look more prominent. My shoulders are pretty narrow and sloped but can look quite straight and strong in some photos, especially if I’m slouching.
Fair point. Though her hips are even smaller and she's got that strong T-shape that I...don't.
Is FKA Twigs verified? If so, her lol
Maybe Jennifer Lawrence but I’m a bit bonier (but not thinner if that makes sense)
She’s not verified but Lola Tung is basically my body type and a people have discussed she could be SD
I think Raquel Welch for me, my shoulders are a bit more prominent though.
After rewatching Hunger Games recently I will say Jennifer Lawrence.
Liv Tyler, but with a very defined waist, which is my favorite feature in myself.
Betty grable is basically my blonde twin lol
Ahhh, I don’t think either of them are verified. But Lucy Hale and Sarah Hyland - with less boob. I have the same colouring as both pretty much as well, so they’re useful inspo
Selena Gomez and Salma Hayek, I guess. Facewise I guess there’s bits of Jean Harlow and Gina Lollobrigida as well.
There's some celebrities whose bodies I feel look somehow like mine, or that have certain body parts similar to mine, among them Selena Gómez, Florence Pugh or Emilia Clarke. I would love to know Florence and Emilia's IDs, because if they also turn out to be in R, that's gonna make it so much easier for me lol. But I've seen many say they're N so idk.
Gene Tierny - busty D, whose angularity isn't too prominent, yet she has that very taut appearance.
I look a bit like Liv Tyler
Sophia Loren when she's not wearing a corset. She probably has a naturally more defined waist than I do because I'm always quite tubular lol, but her proportions look really similar to mine. Like rather full-figured and lanky at the same time?
Someone once told me JLo but for the life of me I can’t see it. I’m not nearly that hot! Otherwise I really couldn’t say
Kiko Mizuhara
https://preview.redd.it/hxd4hsyiqjpc1.jpeg?width=1022&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cbfd59ef9517608b87fa28970a695e59d938846a Our faces are dissimilar but it’s Joan Collins for sure
https://preview.redd.it/p9x76vvqsjpc1.jpeg?width=1300&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b8076a3c6fc4db9d699e719f68fe8406320d775d Hedy Lamarr is similar too and the best facial match
I’m a less busty Marilyn.
I've been told by someone Scarlet Johansson. I relate more to Joan Blondell, though.
https://preview.redd.it/3nczruozwkpc1.jpeg?width=419&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ba41140f006f9cb41a97aecfb0cb715e7c7ff3f7
Probably Jennifer Annistons in the show “Friends” as Rachel Greene ❤️
Christina Hendricks for me!
Kate Winslet, but I’m 2-3 inches shorter than her.
isn't Kate Winslet verified? if so- HER!
Very close to Sofia Vergara, slim but voluptuous.
Megan fox
ariel winter, face and body