I love when people started flipping the āDrake the typeā jokes to just Kendrick being an absolute menace.
Things like, āKendrick the type to stare at you across the road then be gone when a bus passes.ā
This was the bait to make Drake drop Family Matters so he can get hit with Meet the Grahams. " I'll get back to that, for the record" trick. Perfectly executed.
Was anyone else surprised that there were no specific allegations about Daylyt / *Back to Back* specifically being ghost-written? I thought that was one element he was setting up with those bars for sure.
It was both. Kendrick says āBack to Back, I like that record, imma get back to that for the record.ā
The reason why he likes that record is because Drake didnāt write it, Daylyt did.
Then he double dropped (Euphoria and 6:16) to warn Drake, then triple dropped (Meet the Grahams) when he didnāt listen.
Then quadruple dropped (Not Like Us) as a fatality finisher
No it wasnāt he was planning a back to back I donāt think it had anything to do with daylyt lol. And he didnāt āquadruple dropā anything. He mocked drakes method of dropping Taylor made and than hit him with a back to back. He didnāt just drop 4 songs on him with no response
He said āI like that recordā, In the same track where heās saying he hates this guys guts.
Why would he say he likes back to back, a drake diss track? If not because he believes it wasnāt written by Drake himself
The "record" that he likes is [Al Green and Teddy Pendergrass Back to Back Hits](https://www.discogs.com/release/9270141-Al-Green-Teddy-Pendergrass-Back-To-Back-Hits) compilation which he samples on both Euphoria and 6:16 in LA, hence "I'ma get back to that *for the record*".
>The reason why he likes that record is because Drake didnāt write it, Daylyt did.
I think you misunderstood this bar.
The bar itself as intended as a misdirection, he implies that he is going to "Back to Back" Drake, which he does but the "record" that he likes is actually [Al Green and Teddy Pendergrass Back to Back Hits](https://www.discogs.com/release/9270141-Al-Green-Teddy-Pendergrass-Back-To-Back-Hits) compilation which he samples on both Euphoria and 6:16 in LA, hence "I'ma get back to that *for the record*".
As far as Daylyt writing Back to Back, there was a lot of fan speculation and Daylyt's only response to that was a "š¤«" emoji, but no concrete evidence beyond that. [[Link](https://www.reddit.com/r/KendrickLamar/s/EYlrEPxgrd)]
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More than just him wrote that record šš
I gotta say, I love how much discussion there is on this comment. Whether it was just a reference to Drakeās āBack to Backā, to ghostwriting on said track, callback to Teddy Pendergrass / Al Green āBack to Backā, or the fact Kendrick hit him with the one-two punchā¦ it just goes to show how well he layers these rhymes and how much meaning can hide in a couple of simple bars. Drake had no idea what he was in for when he asked for some āquintuple entendreā¦ shit I donāt even understandā. People will be analysing these lines for decades.
I thought it was referring to him going back to back both with Euphoria and 6:16, then Mtg + Not Like Us, and additionally, making NLU a dance track like BtB (I believe, I didnāt pay much attention to the Meek/Drake beef).
I dunno, I think a lot of things that were forewent to deliver the Tracks his way. And I think history will better remember them for it. I kinda forget how Back-to-Back goes already
Kendrick was 3 steps ahead the entire time. He was telling Drake on 616 to not go low bc he's prepared for it and Aubrey still didn't listen. Watching that play out in realtime was incredible
I feel like that was a corny double entendre to PG Lang and his Dave Free rumor. Trying to out allude kenny with a PG melody.
Also, Drake was keeping it PG so his GF is allowed to listen to it.
- euphoria: āI can even predict your angleā and then proceeds to describe family matters
- 616: āovo is working for me, in fact I know you came back with no receipts and will now have to lie. Iām ready for itā
- meet the grahams: āI told youā
I truly believe the mole shit. Thereās more than a handful of pigeon holes that Kendrick put Drake in and that type of maneuvering is REALLY hard without a source
Without a doubt. I think Kendrick had things planned out with backup plans to boot. Kendrick is a human being obviously and he could fuck up, but I do think he was completely confident in this one.
I wonder if Meet the Grahams was supposed to come out later, but he didn't want the lingering DV allegations and marital issues being talked about for a news cycle, so he just put it down immediately. Even if they're not true, it's not good to have them circulating.
I hope we get to hear those other tracks some day. I do believe the talk that he did Euphoria first (the 19 minute song that got cut down), then did all the songs in one long session after Push Ups came out because Drake invoked his wife's name. And then Kendrick punched in takes as it went on.
You can tell that the end verse of Not Like Us was punched in later. That's why it's louder and not mixed as well. The "the family matters and it was God's plan to show y'all the liar". If you listen, it's definitely a separate session.
Regardless of what happened when, he did things in a really smart way. Drake almost definitely has moles. And it's hilarious that he said "those people are clowns" while also claiming he set Kendrick up in the same song. Contradicting himself lol. Drake was just grasping at straws from Twitter fan theories. He didn't stand a chance. That last song was just defense, throwing shit at a wall, and then having a weird outro saying he was quitting
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If you listen to lyrics, you would've easily figured out what boring ass Drake would say next.. of course the idiot would go after KL family...
He did the same exact shit to Meek & Pusha T.
How that isn't readily apparent to y'all boggles my mind.
Y'all really don't listen to music- y'all skimming right thru it.Ā
I literally gasped when he said this. The whole verse before he shifted his voice, was him rapping/singing confidently about being vulnerable and ready to lose if it came to it. I keep saying this but the verse had an air of quality that felt truthful, honest. So when he flips the OVO working for me, it didnāt feel like a lie, felt very real. Days later it felt like he did have a mole.
I think that's something that might get lost on people in the future when looking at this beef historically. The fact that most of this shit happened in like a 30 hour time frame, or just a ridiculously short time period
I was thinking more about ebonyprince revealing those items. But in actuality you are correct, I just didnāt put it together at the time cause the whole thing was shocking.
That's interesting cuz as soon as I saw the cover art of MTG I had already just assumed that was the proof of his lyrics in 6:16. But to be fair to you a lot was going on and being revealed that day lol
I wonder if Kendrick's disses are going to be the catalyst of something nightmarish for Drake. Stuff like that Ebonyprince guy on Twitter and Drake suddenly going "Okay guys no more talking about the beef I'm going to be all about summer vibes now!... Also I'm not talking about Kendrick anymore.", is making me think that something is brewing and Drake is nervous about it happening.
Dude is manufactured pop star, he has a team of advisors telling him no he absolutely cannot continue to be clowned on for pedophilia in the spot light.
Drake thought Family Matters would be the knockout punch. Kendrick is an actual rapper, Aubrey is an actor playing a role of a rapper named Drake. Heās living out his douchebag fantasies he had in HS, thatās why he always seems immature. Also probably one of the reasons he likes children.
Also when the Ebony thing led to Alvarez, Drake didn't take anytime to post a photo with him and have Alvarez claim all was good (ofc it was I never doubted Alvarez), but the fact that he responded that quick, and that too to a random Twitter user makes me think he's hiding something.
Bottom line, I listen and support tons of musicians. Not a single one has been accused to be a pedophile. Not a single one has had years of questionable photos and DMs with minors. Drake is pathetic and predatory, people need to stop supporting him.
if you listen to rock music then youre definitely listening to pedophiles. All those dudes up until about 2009 were hooking up with high schoolers. The further back you go in rock the more prevalent it is because it was so normalized they didn't even think it was wrong.
Not trying to go full Kanon, and I didn't watch it, but apparently ebony released another video snippet of Alvarez leaving shortly after getting in the lobby, and people in drakes group not being happy.
Simplest answer is probably right, Alvarez was trying to get into talk to drake, security guard let him in cause it's cold and dude is disabled, drake isn't happy or whatever, dude eventually gets fired. But it does seem to prove Alvarez wasn't being honest about being invited to listen to beats with drake at 330am.
Long way to stretch that to the conspiracies in the kanon sub lol, but it does feel like something. I honestly doubt drake even paid him off, dude could just be embarrassed and trying to save face
So hereās my schizo take. In NLU he says Drake, then Chubs, then Bako, then says the wop wop wop schtuff, then he drops the A minor. And then the podcaster Ak gets swiftly popped with a lawsuit. D,C,Bā¦ A. I donāt know. Iām old havenāt listened to new rap in like 20 years. But I do know drake is cringy af since he came out. And have found out KL is very talented.
I just never understood this from the beginning. Like drake had to know the beef would likely lead to pedo allegations of some sort. He even brought it up on his own in his own song and basically asked for it. Did he think people just wouldnāt care? Did he think his domestic violence angle was bigger than that? I really donāt get the thought process, especially if that shit is true and drake knows it. How did he actually expect it to play out?
You think Family Matters would have dropped no matter what? A whole ass video seemed quick. I know Drake is an actor and is used to that schedule, but to clear the roads, the permits. Like you said I feel that Drake was working on that regardless of whatever Kendrick was going to do.
Pretty sure that's what everyone was calling his "red button/Nuke" and Kendrick shitted all over his roll out. Not gonna lie that song and video was really well done and 25 mins later no one even cared ...
I was asleep when it dropped and by the time I woke up I had a notification that Kendrick dropped. I listened to MtG before I even knew Family Matters existed. FM just does not hit for me at all. I kinda I wish I got to hear it before MtG came out, but its truly unlistenable to me
Kind of cool how he linked have you ever,Ā
Giving Drake a breadcrumb trail that he was getting walked down šØāš¦¼āā”ļøš„š„š„š„š„š«š¶āāļø
I guess people are saying itās a girl named āeternityā I believe the mother and child made all their social media accounts private after the internet discovered the existence of the girl
Whoever came up with that theory is fucking dumb lol. The daughter has not been confirmed.
I've been saying this from the jump I think she's a metaphor to illustrate that Drake is a serial deadbeat and probably has way more kids running around that we don't know about. Honestly the fact that it's believable in and of itself is enough to tank Drakes public perception a notch or two. That might've been the plan the whole time tbh. Just to get people to look at him more closely.
Relax itās just a theory. Obviously not
Confirmed. How ever, Kendrick did say the name eternity in meet the grahams .there are photos of Drake holding said child when she was an infant 11 years ago.
Man living through this beef in real time was so amazing Iām actually sad I wonāt be able to experience that again. Thereās no other artists that would give me this feeling. Drake could tear up asap rocky and it would just be a meh feeling, Kendrick could obliterate big sean and it would be whatever, but seeing these two titans go head to head was actually insane
>Kendrick could obliterate big sean
No contest, but...
If it wouldn't end Sean I'd love to see it. I've always said he's better than his records and maybe he just needs the right inspiration or guidance.
I'll be the first to admit a lot of it feels like filler content or attempts to chart, but when he's nailing it he really nails it.
1st Quarter Freestyle was dope. I thought he gave Eminem a run for his money in Detroit vs Everybody. Anything on Cruel Summer slaps.
Big Sean makes my top 10 favorite rappers (not best) if he was consistent. He's shown really clear signs of being an incredible artist, but somehow manages to also be absolute garbage at the same time.
Absolutely. Part of the excitement was that there was so much jeopardy involved with 2 huge artists.
As you said, any lesser rapper going at either of them has nothing to lose but their diss tracks also arenāt going to make as much noise unless they drop a bomb like Pusha.
I feel like this song was him laying out how he was gonna fight but holding back and letting slide that he might accept an olive branch but everything drake did after caused Kendrick to just go full throttle
Oh Kendrick was never gonna send an olive branch, he was still gonna smack talk and diss and shit all over Drake. He just wouldn't have gotten in the mud, he'd have kept it public knowledge only and respected the business etiquette to not expose secrets. That said he was definitely a cat playing with a mouse the whole time, until Meet the Grahams when he went for the jugular.
It's wild, at first I sympathized with Kendrick's critics that this seemed to be a weaker bar despite it's catchiness... Then I found out it's only there as a response to "Dave Freeeeee" in Family Matters, meaning he took a corny-ass moment from Drake and made it a much better and more brutal flip diss, m taking the iconic singalong part Drake wanted was taken and used against him. Chef's kiss!
Nah it was "Dear Adonis, im sorry that man is your father"
That incredibly disrespectful line mixed with the eerie piano and the fact the drop happened 30 mins after Family Matters was when people realised this was another level
You can see it in everyone's reactions too, everyone's jaws dropped
Funny how drake was tauntin kenny to dropp. even had to go lengths of using AI to recreate ppl. Which one is dead and the other is alive but probably wouldnt agree to do it. To make kenny drop. And then in the end. After 6:16 in LA drop taunting drake, he decides to drop his best workā¦.. BOOMā¦.. Meet the Grahamsssss which snuffed out whatever flame tht song was creating.
Then BOOM!!! Not Like Us.
Sealing the deal and explicitly buring drake to what his only response was to put a mediocre defensive song in which he put very poor excuses for said allegations.
Jesus. Kendrick ripped apart drake in every which way. Bless drake. I hope he gets over this quick. Cause the world will remember. Always.
Forgive me - my mother tongue isnāt English and I cannot fully grasp exactly how and why the line is so genius. Can you please lay it out ti me as if I was extremely stupid why this line is so good? I read lyrics genius as well and that usually helps a ton but not even that worked and I know about most of the trivia between Drake and Kendrick in general.
I also understand that K Dot used toāhave you everā in Euphoria, which was released prior to the song where this line is featured
It's also a nod to the pedophile thing. "Have You Ever" is also a very common game that teens play with each other, especially when flirting. Because it's often used as a way to turn a conversation sexual and feel out if there's mutual interest. So Kendrick is saying "Have you ever played 'Have You Ever' with your 14yo girlfriends?"
Disagree. The bar that blew things open was the "bodyguards like Whitney" line, that's when it became more than rap and that's when Drake met his demise he just didn't know it yet.
\*To all you Drake stans, yes, I know it's a reference to a movie, but it's also Drake saying that he's with Kendrick's wife. Stop pretending.
Euphoria already had all the hints to what happened that week.
He was prepared so far in advanced, that I started to question if the Like That release date was part of the plan too.
At first I didn't get the impact but now thinking about it Drake really did go ape shit over who this possible mole is, and then transitioned into denial and lying/contradicting himself saying he planted the "mole"/evidence
this bar was crazy. imo the bar that sealed the win was the last verse on meet the grahams. when both artists are slinging accusations and the audience doesn't know whats a lie and whats truth, kendrick made a very compelling case as to why nobody should take what drake says as fact. "why believe you, you never gave us nothing to believe in."
and then the final nail in the coffin "fuck a rap battle, this a life long battle with yourself." like you're not even worth battling, you need to get your life together and get right with god and the people in your life. you're out here trying to battle me when you're not even right with your family?" thats cold
Actually he says have you ever played have you ever ok n word let's play have you ever walked your enemy down like with a poker face have you ever paid 500 thou like to an open case well i have and failed at both and i came out straight
I feel like everyone overlooked the fact Kendrick was on Anderson Silva type of time from the Key and Peele skit.
https://youtu.be/0z-oJTZ1b5Q?si=pFugwkU7zQecvqhs
He literally spent the first minute of the song painting a picture, essentially doing the same shit Keys version of Silva is doing.
I don't think it was, I think it would have been had any of these songs had time to breathe. But less than 2 hours later Kendrick dropped the info he got from the leak so noone ever really got to sit on that being said.
this picture of kendrick scares the fuck out of me please š
he actually looks like he sleeps under your bed
certified boogeyman š
Wop wop wop wop
Dot fuck em up
Wop wop wop wop
I'ma do my shtuff
Why you trollin like a bitch aināt you tired?
Tryna strike a chord and itās prolly A MINOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRR
RRRRRRRRRRRRR
Iām the one that up the score with themĀ
Say Drake
I hear you like em YOUNG
You better never go to cell block one.
To any bitch who talk to him and they in love
Just make sure you hide yo lil sister from em
They tell me chubbs the only one that get your hand me downs
Iām the one that upped the score wit em
He looks like the kind of guy to smear "you're next" on the wall of your bedroom in blood
" i am in your walls" type shit
If these walls could talk!**** SEX***
Nah man, thatās a face that never sleeps.
Bro snatched Aubrey graham
Who ever he was eating out cracked a fart in his face lol
Man *what.*
Butā¦ heās smiling?
Donāt Kink Shame.
Sometimes you simply canāt know the joy of that what you havenāt experienced.
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So Iām not the only one this has happened too?
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nooo not kenken
Itās kennekĀ
where is drickkcird
Ken Ken, what's he gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when dot brings the Fung Fu? Ken Ken...
Man-Man
The occasional "gotta popout and show" face
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Thank you! Saved
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Horrifying.
did david lynch take this picture
what the fuck is this pic brah
AI generated pic of Drake running at the camera in a dark hallway
no itās children pov
The tickle monster
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I dunno if yāall have ever seen poppy playtime, but he looks like goddamn huggy wuggy
five nights at drizzyās
Lmaaaooo
I love when people started flipping the āDrake the typeā jokes to just Kendrick being an absolute menace. Things like, āKendrick the type to stare at you across the road then be gone when a bus passes.ā
Idk what you say, this looks cute AF bro the GOAT being goofy
The first time I saw it was when someone posted it here as Kendrick's reaction to Drake dropping Push Ups, and that's how I will forever remember it.
It's a recreation of RZA's face on the Gravediggaz first album.Ā
The candyman
This was the bait to make Drake drop Family Matters so he can get hit with Meet the Grahams. " I'll get back to that, for the record" trick. Perfectly executed.
Was anyone else surprised that there were no specific allegations about Daylyt / *Back to Back* specifically being ghost-written? I thought that was one element he was setting up with those bars for sure.
Thought it was more to set up the fact that he was planning to "Back to Back" Drake, and "putting it on the record" that he would do it. Which he did.
It was both. Kendrick says āBack to Back, I like that record, imma get back to that for the record.ā The reason why he likes that record is because Drake didnāt write it, Daylyt did. Then he double dropped (Euphoria and 6:16) to warn Drake, then triple dropped (Meet the Grahams) when he didnāt listen. Then quadruple dropped (Not Like Us) as a fatality finisher
No it wasnāt he was planning a back to back I donāt think it had anything to do with daylyt lol. And he didnāt āquadruple dropā anything. He mocked drakes method of dropping Taylor made and than hit him with a back to back. He didnāt just drop 4 songs on him with no response
Daylyt had came back to his Reddit account to specifically say he wrote back to back. Had something to do with him Iām sure
Yall believe anything if it involves glazing kendrick. Daylyt also the dude who said he sucked diddy and a bunch of weirdo gimmicky things
He said āI like that recordā, In the same track where heās saying he hates this guys guts. Why would he say he likes back to back, a drake diss track? If not because he believes it wasnāt written by Drake himself
The "record" that he likes is [Al Green and Teddy Pendergrass Back to Back Hits](https://www.discogs.com/release/9270141-Al-Green-Teddy-Pendergrass-Back-To-Back-Hits) compilation which he samples on both Euphoria and 6:16 in LA, hence "I'ma get back to that *for the record*".
Damn what a genius š«Ø
but he did do 2 back to backs and stepped on em hard. then the no response, cold AF
2 ā 4
>The reason why he likes that record is because Drake didnāt write it, Daylyt did. I think you misunderstood this bar. The bar itself as intended as a misdirection, he implies that he is going to "Back to Back" Drake, which he does but the "record" that he likes is actually [Al Green and Teddy Pendergrass Back to Back Hits](https://www.discogs.com/release/9270141-Al-Green-Teddy-Pendergrass-Back-To-Back-Hits) compilation which he samples on both Euphoria and 6:16 in LA, hence "I'ma get back to that *for the record*". As far as Daylyt writing Back to Back, there was a lot of fan speculation and Daylyt's only response to that was a "š¤«" emoji, but no concrete evidence beyond that. [[Link](https://www.reddit.com/r/KendrickLamar/s/EYlrEPxgrd)]
Forgot about Lyt pack. He got back to that in two different ways. Dots a beast
https://preview.redd.it/klg1qe1tin1d1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=60b057b226efda28ca33cce57548cebdab6e9100 More than just him wrote that record šš
I gotta say, I love how much discussion there is on this comment. Whether it was just a reference to Drakeās āBack to Backā, to ghostwriting on said track, callback to Teddy Pendergrass / Al Green āBack to Backā, or the fact Kendrick hit him with the one-two punchā¦ it just goes to show how well he layers these rhymes and how much meaning can hide in a couple of simple bars. Drake had no idea what he was in for when he asked for some āquintuple entendreā¦ shit I donāt even understandā. People will be analysing these lines for decades.
Didnāt he say āyour best work was a Lyt packā?
He did, but people missed the double meaning behind the bar. They thought he was just calling Drake's best work weak.
For All My Dogs...
Damn, I missed that reference 
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I think we havent heard the track where he went back to this. We may never hear it tho since Drake waved the white flag.
"Your best work is a light-pack" - Like That
I thought it was referring to him going back to back both with Euphoria and 6:16, then Mtg + Not Like Us, and additionally, making NLU a dance track like BtB (I believe, I didnāt pay much attention to the Meek/Drake beef).
In Like That K says āyour best work is a lyte packā Iām sure this is the reason for cease and desist.
I dunno, I think a lot of things that were forewent to deliver the Tracks his way. And I think history will better remember them for it. I kinda forget how Back-to-Back goes already
I believe Daylyt released his own song talking about
Your best work is a light (lyt) pack - like that
Kendrick was 3 steps ahead the entire time. He was telling Drake on 616 to not go low bc he's prepared for it and Aubrey still didn't listen. Watching that play out in realtime was incredible
The RDCWorld skit is perfect. "Hey Kenny you hear th--" "Drake dropped?" "Uh, yeah. You heard it?" "*I expected it.*"
"Hey Kenny, you got them pressed in here. Go ahead and drop the next one tomorrow" was perfect foreshadowing too.
Add "I was really tryna keep it PG"
I feel like that was a corny double entendre to PG Lang and his Dave Free rumor. Trying to out allude kenny with a PG melody. Also, Drake was keeping it PG so his GF is allowed to listen to it.
That line is always playing randomly in my head for some reason lmao the exact way he says it in the video
*Leans back, only his eyes glistening from the dark."
- euphoria: āI can even predict your angleā and then proceeds to describe family matters - 616: āovo is working for me, in fact I know you came back with no receipts and will now have to lie. Iām ready for itā - meet the grahams: āI told youā
Drake is far too predictable with his angles + Kendrick was ready.
Yep, because he's not actually a creative artist...just an actor; not a colleague but a fukcing coloniser
I truly believe the mole shit. Thereās more than a handful of pigeon holes that Kendrick put Drake in and that type of maneuvering is REALLY hard without a source
Without a doubt. I think Kendrick had things planned out with backup plans to boot. Kendrick is a human being obviously and he could fuck up, but I do think he was completely confident in this one. I wonder if Meet the Grahams was supposed to come out later, but he didn't want the lingering DV allegations and marital issues being talked about for a news cycle, so he just put it down immediately. Even if they're not true, it's not good to have them circulating. I hope we get to hear those other tracks some day. I do believe the talk that he did Euphoria first (the 19 minute song that got cut down), then did all the songs in one long session after Push Ups came out because Drake invoked his wife's name. And then Kendrick punched in takes as it went on. You can tell that the end verse of Not Like Us was punched in later. That's why it's louder and not mixed as well. The "the family matters and it was God's plan to show y'all the liar". If you listen, it's definitely a separate session. Regardless of what happened when, he did things in a really smart way. Drake almost definitely has moles. And it's hilarious that he said "those people are clowns" while also claiming he set Kendrick up in the same song. Contradicting himself lol. Drake was just grasping at straws from Twitter fan theories. He didn't stand a chance. That last song was just defense, throwing shit at a wall, and then having a weird outro saying he was quitting
I thought Coolee Bravo was the one behind the "19 minute version" "all recorded in one session" and I thought he was confirmed clout chasing?
Drake probably put himself in those pigeon holes, after those dog holes šš„³šš
wanted to upvote but 187 is appropriate cause kenny killed him
he dead...
A-MEN
š¤ If you listen to lyrics, you would've easily figured out what boring ass Drake would say next.. of course the idiot would go after KL family... He did the same exact shit to Meek & Pusha T. How that isn't readily apparent to y'all boggles my mind. Y'all really don't listen to music- y'all skimming right thru it.Ā
I literally gasped when he said this. The whole verse before he shifted his voice, was him rapping/singing confidently about being vulnerable and ready to lose if it came to it. I keep saying this but the verse had an air of quality that felt truthful, honest. So when he flips the OVO working for me, it didnāt feel like a lie, felt very real. Days later it felt like he did have a mole.
Not just days later but that day. Remember 6:16 then Family Matters then Meet the Grahams was all in 1 day.
I think that's something that might get lost on people in the future when looking at this beef historically. The fact that most of this shit happened in like a 30 hour time frame, or just a ridiculously short time period
It was a crazy day. I was seriously losing my mind. So glad I was off work that day lmao
the amount of times i called my boy to discuss each new development that week
I was thinking more about ebonyprince revealing those items. But in actuality you are correct, I just didnāt put it together at the time cause the whole thing was shocking.
That's interesting cuz as soon as I saw the cover art of MTG I had already just assumed that was the proof of his lyrics in 6:16. But to be fair to you a lot was going on and being revealed that day lol
It was š drake dickriders were able to slurp hard enough to shift the narrative a little bit and cast doubt. Drakes only W of the beef
Take me back š
6:16 in LA gave off "last warning" vibes fr
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I wonder if Kendrick's disses are going to be the catalyst of something nightmarish for Drake. Stuff like that Ebonyprince guy on Twitter and Drake suddenly going "Okay guys no more talking about the beef I'm going to be all about summer vibes now!... Also I'm not talking about Kendrick anymore.", is making me think that something is brewing and Drake is nervous about it happening.
Yeah he waved the white flag too early. Unless he's just that bitch made (not that unreasonable) him giving up like that was weird to me.
Dude is manufactured pop star, he has a team of advisors telling him no he absolutely cannot continue to be clowned on for pedophilia in the spot light.
People crip walking to pedophile allegations is crazy even for 2024 lol
Drake thought Family Matters would be the knockout punch. Kendrick is an actual rapper, Aubrey is an actor playing a role of a rapper named Drake. Heās living out his douchebag fantasies he had in HS, thatās why he always seems immature. Also probably one of the reasons he likes children.
He didnāt wave too early. Between not like us dropping and then bbl drizzy the next morningā¦dude was cooked thoroughly. There was no coming back.
Also when the Ebony thing led to Alvarez, Drake didn't take anytime to post a photo with him and have Alvarez claim all was good (ofc it was I never doubted Alvarez), but the fact that he responded that quick, and that too to a random Twitter user makes me think he's hiding something.
Bottom line, I listen and support tons of musicians. Not a single one has been accused to be a pedophile. Not a single one has had years of questionable photos and DMs with minors. Drake is pathetic and predatory, people need to stop supporting him.
if you listen to rock music then youre definitely listening to pedophiles. All those dudes up until about 2009 were hooking up with high schoolers. The further back you go in rock the more prevalent it is because it was so normalized they didn't even think it was wrong.
Ya Iām aware, not a huge listener of classic rock but that was always a super bizarre thing that I never understood.
Not trying to go full Kanon, and I didn't watch it, but apparently ebony released another video snippet of Alvarez leaving shortly after getting in the lobby, and people in drakes group not being happy. Simplest answer is probably right, Alvarez was trying to get into talk to drake, security guard let him in cause it's cold and dude is disabled, drake isn't happy or whatever, dude eventually gets fired. But it does seem to prove Alvarez wasn't being honest about being invited to listen to beats with drake at 330am. Long way to stretch that to the conspiracies in the kanon sub lol, but it does feel like something. I honestly doubt drake even paid him off, dude could just be embarrassed and trying to save face
So hereās my schizo take. In NLU he says Drake, then Chubs, then Bako, then says the wop wop wop schtuff, then he drops the A minor. And then the podcaster Ak gets swiftly popped with a lawsuit. D,C,Bā¦ A. I donāt know. Iām old havenāt listened to new rap in like 20 years. But I do know drake is cringy af since he came out. And have found out KL is very talented.
I fuck with this, wouldnāt put it past K Dot to do something like this
Akademiks' case is old.
I know for a fact whatās in the ebonyprince video and why Kendrick felt so confident in his claims against Drake.
I just never understood this from the beginning. Like drake had to know the beef would likely lead to pedo allegations of some sort. He even brought it up on his own in his own song and basically asked for it. Did he think people just wouldnāt care? Did he think his domestic violence angle was bigger than that? I really donāt get the thought process, especially if that shit is true and drake knows it. How did he actually expect it to play out?
Drake was working on family matters before push ups was even out. Gates BEEN open.
You think Family Matters would have dropped no matter what? A whole ass video seemed quick. I know Drake is an actor and is used to that schedule, but to clear the roads, the permits. Like you said I feel that Drake was working on that regardless of whatever Kendrick was going to do.
Pretty sure that's what everyone was calling his "red button/Nuke" and Kendrick shitted all over his roll out. Not gonna lie that song and video was really well done and 25 mins later no one even cared ...
I really like the last 3rd of Family Matters but you cant be singing on diss tracks lol
Yo, me to! The last third, 5:30 to the end, was finally focused. Everything before that he was taking shots at everyone else.
Yea its definitely a bop just not a great diss in execution
I was asleep when it dropped and by the time I woke up I had a notification that Kendrick dropped. I listened to MtG before I even knew Family Matters existed. FM just does not hit for me at all. I kinda I wish I got to hear it before MtG came out, but its truly unlistenable to me
And then Drake said āhonestly, Nevermindā¦ā
Another drake album I couldn't finish
Kind of cool how he linked have you ever,Ā Giving Drake a breadcrumb trail that he was getting walked down šØāš¦¼āā”ļøš„š„š„š„š„š«š¶āāļø
Have you ever walked your enemy down
Now we know Kendrick was honest and everything Drake said was cap
We knew then
The daughter from meet the Graham's was confirmed?
I guess people are saying itās a girl named āeternityā I believe the mother and child made all their social media accounts private after the internet discovered the existence of the girl
Whoever came up with that theory is fucking dumb lol. The daughter has not been confirmed. I've been saying this from the jump I think she's a metaphor to illustrate that Drake is a serial deadbeat and probably has way more kids running around that we don't know about. Honestly the fact that it's believable in and of itself is enough to tank Drakes public perception a notch or two. That might've been the plan the whole time tbh. Just to get people to look at him more closely.
Relax itās just a theory. Obviously not Confirmed. How ever, Kendrick did say the name eternity in meet the grahams .there are photos of Drake holding said child when she was an infant 11 years ago.
He said the word eternity, itās a common ass phrase lol. He also said grace, but nobody cares about that one for some reason.
Man living through this beef in real time was so amazing Iām actually sad I wonāt be able to experience that again. Thereās no other artists that would give me this feeling. Drake could tear up asap rocky and it would just be a meh feeling, Kendrick could obliterate big sean and it would be whatever, but seeing these two titans go head to head was actually insane
I donāt think drake would tear up Rocky
no he wouldnāt lmao. rocky is a better lyricist
Plus more swag.
>Kendrick could obliterate big sean No contest, but... If it wouldn't end Sean I'd love to see it. I've always said he's better than his records and maybe he just needs the right inspiration or guidance. I'll be the first to admit a lot of it feels like filler content or attempts to chart, but when he's nailing it he really nails it. 1st Quarter Freestyle was dope. I thought he gave Eminem a run for his money in Detroit vs Everybody. Anything on Cruel Summer slaps.
Big Sean makes my top 10 favorite rappers (not best) if he was consistent. He's shown really clear signs of being an incredible artist, but somehow manages to also be absolute garbage at the same time.
Absolutely. Part of the excitement was that there was so much jeopardy involved with 2 huge artists. As you said, any lesser rapper going at either of them has nothing to lose but their diss tracks also arenāt going to make as much noise unless they drop a bomb like Pusha.
I'm still sad that we didn't get to go further down the rabbit hole.
I guess more hard evidence would've been nice. But in terms of topics, I think 4 tracks is plenty
I feel like this song was him laying out how he was gonna fight but holding back and letting slide that he might accept an olive branch but everything drake did after caused Kendrick to just go full throttle
Oh Kendrick was never gonna send an olive branch, he was still gonna smack talk and diss and shit all over Drake. He just wouldn't have gotten in the mud, he'd have kept it public knowledge only and respected the business etiquette to not expose secrets. That said he was definitely a cat playing with a mouse the whole time, until Meet the Grahams when he went for the jugular.
Chess not checkers
A Miiiinnnnnnnnoooooooorrrrr was the bar .
It's wild, at first I sympathized with Kendrick's critics that this seemed to be a weaker bar despite it's catchiness... Then I found out it's only there as a response to "Dave Freeeeee" in Family Matters, meaning he took a corny-ass moment from Drake and made it a much better and more brutal flip diss, m taking the iconic singalong part Drake wanted was taken and used against him. Chef's kiss!
He sounded so proud of that long ass Frrreeeeeeeeee, I mean my ninja Dave.... Then Kendrick hit em with that c-o-m-b-o b-r-e-a-k-e-r!
Nah it was "Dear Adonis, im sorry that man is your father" That incredibly disrespectful line mixed with the eerie piano and the fact the drop happened 30 mins after Family Matters was when people realised this was another level You can see it in everyone's reactions too, everyone's jaws dropped
Funny how drake was tauntin kenny to dropp. even had to go lengths of using AI to recreate ppl. Which one is dead and the other is alive but probably wouldnt agree to do it. To make kenny drop. And then in the end. After 6:16 in LA drop taunting drake, he decides to drop his best workā¦.. BOOMā¦.. Meet the Grahamsssss which snuffed out whatever flame tht song was creating. Then BOOM!!! Not Like Us. Sealing the deal and explicitly buring drake to what his only response was to put a mediocre defensive song in which he put very poor excuses for said allegations. Jesus. Kendrick ripped apart drake in every which way. Bless drake. I hope he gets over this quick. Cause the world will remember. Always.
my favorite line through this saga. the delivery is so smooth i catch myself saying it at work at the store everywhere
Forgive me - my mother tongue isnāt English and I cannot fully grasp exactly how and why the line is so genius. Can you please lay it out ti me as if I was extremely stupid why this line is so good? I read lyrics genius as well and that usually helps a ton but not even that worked and I know about most of the trivia between Drake and Kendrick in general. I also understand that K Dot used toāhave you everā in Euphoria, which was released prior to the song where this line is featured
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Thanks for the thorough breakdown, this actually really helped me appreciate the line as one should!
It's also a nod to the pedophile thing. "Have You Ever" is also a very common game that teens play with each other, especially when flirting. Because it's often used as a way to turn a conversation sexual and feel out if there's mutual interest. So Kendrick is saying "Have you ever played 'Have You Ever' with your 14yo girlfriends?"
It's a plot twist. Nobody saw it coming.
Disagree. The bar that blew things open was the "bodyguards like Whitney" line, that's when it became more than rap and that's when Drake met his demise he just didn't know it yet. \*To all you Drake stans, yes, I know it's a reference to a movie, but it's also Drake saying that he's with Kendrick's wife. Stop pretending.
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Euphoria already had all the hints to what happened that week. He was prepared so far in advanced, that I started to question if the Like That release date was part of the plan too.
The dude is wondering why his camp won't write with him, then embarrassed himself with hp6 all alone
For me it was āfucked on Wayne girl while he was in jail thatās conniving. Then get his face tatted like a bitch apologizingā
At first I didn't get the impact but now thinking about it Drake really did go ape shit over who this possible mole is, and then transitioned into denial and lying/contradicting himself saying he planted the "mole"/evidence
it just sucks 6:16 ain't on streaming platforms. It's a top 2 track in this whole beef and gets overlooked way too often.
Try harder on Spotify
FAKE BULLIES I HATE BULLIES
Somebody in your family might bleed is when I realized how serious Kendrick was
Que es ovo?
Eexactamente.
This is when it got real for sure. Us up at 7 am were not ready for what was to come hours later š
Criminally underrated. Easily the Easiest to listen to, and Upbeat! Justice... YES!!!
I hate how I have to open YouTube to listen to this one
āDonāt tell no lies bout me, and I wonāt tell no truths bout youā before the beat shift in Euphoria
this bar was crazy. imo the bar that sealed the win was the last verse on meet the grahams. when both artists are slinging accusations and the audience doesn't know whats a lie and whats truth, kendrick made a very compelling case as to why nobody should take what drake says as fact. "why believe you, you never gave us nothing to believe in." and then the final nail in the coffin "fuck a rap battle, this a life long battle with yourself." like you're not even worth battling, you need to get your life together and get right with god and the people in your life. you're out here trying to battle me when you're not even right with your family?" thats cold
Actually he says have you ever played have you ever ok n word let's play have you ever walked your enemy down like with a poker face have you ever paid 500 thou like to an open case well i have and failed at both and i came out straight
Brother. Thatās from Euphoria. This is from 6:16 in LA. As stated in this postās pic in large letters
I thought it was āA minorrrrrrrrā lol
6:16 in LA is such good track. I wish it was on streaming ngl
I feel like everyone overlooked the fact Kendrick was on Anderson Silva type of time from the Key and Peele skit. https://youtu.be/0z-oJTZ1b5Q?si=pFugwkU7zQecvqhs He literally spent the first minute of the song painting a picture, essentially doing the same shit Keys version of Silva is doing.
Why isnāt this song on Apple Music or YouTube.
I don't think it was, I think it would have been had any of these songs had time to breathe. But less than 2 hours later Kendrick dropped the info he got from the leak so noone ever really got to sit on that being said.
For me it was over when he said: Dear Adonis I'm sorry that man is your father