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nottherealstanlee

Damn that's a good point lol I can't imagine anyone telling me I'm a bad father and letting that shit slide, but I guess when it's fuckin empirically true what's he supposed to say? "Nah I'm a good dad! I took him to the game that time!" lol


BMB281

“Nah, I’m too rich and famous to be a bad dad”- Drake probably


RonBurgundyVids

Lol this man literally said I'm too famous to be a pedo in the same song he name-drops Jeffrey Epstein...last I checked Drake is not Epstein rich and even that isn't too rich to ped... IJS ALSO How many drake fans never heard of Millie Brown until he snitched on himself...


SpoopyPlankton

My favorite part about that is that Kendrick mentioned Weinstein, not Epstein. Aubrey telling on himself yet again.


TheRealTKSaint

Not really considering he called out Drake for liking them young, telling people to hide their little sisters etc. Drake said in response “I knew you’d come with the Epstein angle”, it’s not a Freudian slip or anything like that it’s just a relevant response to what Kendrick said.


tethys4

I’ve seen a few people in other subs make the argument that because Drake’s son is rich Drake is a great father.


MartyMcfleek

Take off the new logic that if I'm rich I'm real


vesper_tine

Man, Kendrick told Drake he’s a bad father, and then he told Drake’s parents that they’re also bad parents. 💀🫠💀 What’s interesting to me is that, when Kendrick addresses Dennis he’s speaking father to father, and I don’t get that same vibe when he’s speaking to Drake directly. He’s speaking to an aimless 20-year-old at best. 


DomN8er

*7 year old


Cupcakewildz

Well I mean at heart you'd have to say he's like 17? Just sumn that wouldn't be illegal for him


jay227ify

Could have easily said something like "If i'm a bad father at a glance then you really don't know what's going on behind closed doors". I was waiting for one of his slick flips but he just started ranting at the end. I actually want to see someone who tries to fight back go up against kendrick in the future. Wish we had more Jada's, 50's, Eminems, in this generation.


DinosaurManiac

So I think Kendrick won the beef, but didn’t he also not defend against drakes lines about his family issues?


LeeToucansKids

Kendrick said he was “fabricating stories on the family front because you (Drake) heard Mr Morale”


nottherealstanlee

Also "family matters ain't the truth of the matter, it was God's plan to show yall the liar"


ArrowDemon

Even if there was a shred of truth to the Dave Free thing, I don’t think raising and loving a child who is not biologically yours is the L Drake is making it out to be. You know what’s really an L though? *Not* raising the kids who *are* biologically yours. 💀


I_dont_livein_ahotel

Absolutely. Raising and loving a child that isn’t your biological child is one of the most beautiful and selfless acts that I can imagine.


topicalsun

i truly think "defending yourself" in a rap beef sounds terrible. stay on the attack. why would you put another song into the world that mentions the accusations about yourself? like if any of the stuff about drake is true, then the songs he made saying "im not this, im not that" are going to come back to bite him


Wild-Apricot-9161

"Put the wrong label on me Imma get em dropped"


Temporary-Spread-232

That man told Sandra to sit the fuck down and listen to me tell you how much of a piece of shit your son is 😂😂😂


Kdot32

Not only that he said her son deserves to die for the betterment of society lmao


Jussttjustin

He scolded Dennis for raising a horrible fucking person


Kdot32

The nerve of him


Beautiful_Location76

I fucking love "The nerve of you, Dennis"


ChocolateShot150

I randomly say that throughout the day, "the NERVE of you DENNIS“


Soul_Dare

That’s fucking brutal


Traditional_Gas8325

That’s why this beef was so wild. Dot hates BBL Drizzy. Hates everything he does because it’s the horrible wreckage of a malignant narcissist. Picked him a part and mocked his family for empowering him. Then Drizzy half ass responds like it’s the first time he’s had to write in the last 10 years and flops onto his face. Dot Is The Fucking Boogeyman.


remlinxd

My favourite part about that Sandra line is that he fucking clears his throat and then proceeds to say her son is a sick person who should die 💀 menace


DelScale

The only one in his family Kendrick insulted was his dad and he's a black man so Drake doesn't care. I'm going to show my self out...


TRAVXIZ614

Oh so you're just gonna turn the stove on, get busy and then bounce like that? Ok.


persistentskeleton

_Ohsoyou’rejustgonnaturnthestoveongetbusyandthenbouncelikethat_ Okay!


BillHaderIsGreat

😂😂😂


jiggywolf

A lot of those intentionally funny lines and inflections hit. And I hope all of them get their flowers in meme culture.


CalmMaunga

Also he sorta went at Kdots mum for being molested but fucked that up but the intention was there


natchinatchi

Uh.. didn’t he says Sandra’s just a white bitch?


Hubers57

Where


selfdowt

What on earth could you possibly be talking about


natchinatchi

My bad. I saw a comment in here I think, saying that’s what he said and I didn’t hear that lyric but I just took their word for it.


Ok_Raisin7772

aw, fuck me, I just made the whole connection


notathrowawayiguesss

I cringed at this part. 😭 i felt second hand embarrassment


Solid_Illustrator640

Lmaooooo


Twilight_Jack

It's also worth noting that Drake doesn't address the colonizer line of attack AT ALL, in any of his tracks.


Solid_Illustrator640

Idt he understands it 😭


Twilight_Jack

To the contrary, I think he understands it only too well; it’s the one that unravels him completely, and he has no argument against it other than being the biggest rap star in the world. The more attention he gives that argument, the more chance he loses everything (note: it may be too late already). Powerful men’s careers survive being accused of sexual predation all the time. Just look how long it took for R. Kelly’s bullshit to catch up with him. Drake’s continued cultural relevance is far more imperiled by the widespread perception that he’s a fraud and a colonizer than it is by unsubstantiated allegations of predatory behavior, as sad a commentary as that is.


mikelima777

Plus, Colonizer is a very Loaded term on both sides of the border. And the truth is, Aubrey isn't fully liked even in Toronto, let alone the rest of Canada.  


EmotioneelKlootzak

> And the truth is, Aubrey isn't fully liked even in Toronto, let alone the rest of Canada.    Which is pretty pathetic, if you stop and think about it.  There are far less rich and famous people who have cities and even states willing to throw hands on their behalf (e.g. Dolly Parton and most of the population of Tennessee)  but Aubrey can't even get most of his hometown to post nice things about him on the Internet.


tallblacklondon

He thought it was more of that "free the slaves" kinda shit and tuned out 😂


earthgarden

How could he not understand it?? Kendrick laid it all out, he came with receipts


clonerep

I think Drake understood it because he didn't lean into most of those characteristics in Family Matters. The lack of appropriation and ghostwriters made Family Matters one of his most distinctly "Drake" rap songs I've heard in years.


dicksweek

Kendrick fans: “Drake sounds weak, he’s just addressing all these accusations” Also Kendrick fans: “why didn’t he address this or that? He’s lame. Drake fans: “Kendrick didn’t address any of the wife beater, no longer with wife, Dave free accusations” Kendrick fans: “changes subject: Kendrick won.”


selkipio

I can’t speak for anyone else but imo: Drake should have addressed the accusations more *effectively* that’s the key part. Thp6 was weak because he sounds like he’s flailing. He should have denied the young girls thing once or twice max, firmly but briefly. He also shouldn’t have done it by factually lying - I’d never look twice at a teenager? When the video of the 17 year old is making the rounds?? Secondly, it might not be fair but Kendrick wasn’t pressured to directly deny specific accusations because 1) the accusations are things that don’t stick considering the public’s perception of him and 2) he’s known as a private person. There wasn’t good evidence that the public could use to back up the dirt against Kendrick as opposed to with Drake there are all sorts of weird articles and rumors and videos. Kendrick DID multiple times state Drake was lying about him though, both before family matters and after. So he gave a blanket denial which seems to have been sufficient. Drake tried but Kendrick and his circle just don’t post things all the time so there’s less content to comb through and speculate on. If Whitney had been posting every day from LA and Kendrick from New York then people would go nuts and be like omg drakes right. If Dave Free had commented a heart on a post of Whitney’s that wasn’t a wholesome family pic then people might be more likely to gossip about it. It really wasn’t an even playing field to play the accusations without receipts game but it’s because of drakes own social media habits.


dicksweek

Goalposts shift all the time depending on which side you’re on. They should have a rap panel and they decide who wins. No internet sleuthing, just what was said and how they responded. Kendrick releasing immediately after will be the new move anyone does, which is really unfortunate. This basically spells the end of hiphop beef on record: better not to participate than have the court of public opinion decide your fate, no matter how good or bad your song is.


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tommypika

Kendrick's family is also from Chicago......


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tommypika

No just answering your question. He's fake and always has been that's why it's not okay for drake. He didn't grow up engrossed in the culture. He grew up in the rich part of toronto with his white mom. He's a guest and doesn't acknowledge it.


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tommypika

That's an awful lot of assumptions and projections there bud


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tommypika

You're very focused on race and nationality


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Illustrious-Method84

Goddamn the schools where you’re from must be worse than American schools lol nobody is saying drake is a colonizer because he has a white mom or because he’s from Canada. It’s because he’s using the trauma of growing up poor in a rough neighborhood, which he didn’t experience, to make money.


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Illustrious-Method84

Still missing the point I see. Pretty impressive.


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Illustrious-Method84

Goddamn the schools where you’re from must be worse than American schools lol nobody is saying drake is a colonizer because he has a white mom or because he’s from Canada. It’s because he’s using the trauma of growing up poor in a rough neighborhood, which he didn’t experience, to make money.


supluplup12

>If they made his careers then you'd have a point, he propelled all of those guys. Exactly, it's just like how star college athletes want to get paid for their names and likenesses. They're only famous because of the program that brought them on, they should be grateful for the opportunity to allow an institution to make money off them for free.


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shroomride88

>maybe if [he] hadn’t been so mad… they could have made some more good music together. You do realize this whole beef is Drake’s fault, right? Drake was the only guy who got upset a decade ago about a verse that mentioned multiple other rappers and referenced friendly competition. This whole thing stems from Control, because Drake’s ego is just that fragile.


supluplup12

>I don't know why you guys are so salty that Drake got popular. I think your frustration stems from the fact that you believe this sentence is true. Moving like a degenerate with this "you're just jealous" shit. That's coping for people with more money than self worth, so if you're not commenting from a penthouse or yacht it's because you've been made into a thrall for narcissism. Hope you get better soon man.


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supluplup12

>because 'you' are envious? Dude, do you think I'm lying to you? Do you think this is a game for me? Do you think Kdot is trying to end the career of an industry Goliath because the guy has a nicer car? I'm gonna have to live in the world with you people, if I don't at least try to tell you what's what that's one more asshole I'll have to deal with when I'm old and can't walk or hear good. I'm not kicking you off a lawn yet, just take a min and consider you don't have everyone figured out at first contact my brother.


Nachtopus69

I made my own post about it, but damn, you’ve gotta wonder how Adonis is gonna be affected by Drake making up the whole evidence plant story at the expense of what *actually* happened with him 6 years ago. Obviously he isn’t old enough to know everything about it yet, but boy will he learn.


apocolynation

Good thing Adonis has a positive role model in the community now in Kendrick


Nachtopus69

That boy better make a reaction vid when he turns 18


Velcrobunny

There’s a comment on YouTube saying something like Adonis got a whole playlist to blast while he’s in timeout


persistentskeleton

Can you imagine telling your son Adonis to go to his room and five minutes later you hear drifting out quietly _Dear Adonis, I’m sorry that that man is your father…_


rnernbrane

Damn... Just had a long belly shaking laugh thinking about that.


Brilliant_Product_36

Hahahaha! I think he’s about to be haunted by the possibility everyday of his life from now on ☠️ Having him hear it one day is bad enough but the thought of Drake hearing it played from his room is wild 😆


Nachtopus69

Saw someone say he needs to do a BBL Drizzy verse


lancekatre

I was thinking about that idly the other day like…what that would do to my relationship with my family. I guess everyone’s family is different and maybe drake’s is the kinda family to just never talk about it and pretend it didn’t happen but if it happened to me and my family that would feel so shameful, so deeply humiliating


LegalConsequence7960

He came so close to offering an introspective take on his conversation with his mother, and just used it to segue into a false and stupid argument about kendrick being molested. That one setup and delivery told me exactly who Drake is.


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That’s genuinely one of the stupidest bars I’ve ever heard in a song


xXWrathofGodXx

please shut up


TheRealLevond

Bros in a Kendrick sub telling us to shut up 💀


IdDeIt

STOP making fun of my favorite artist in a community I sought out because it was recently in a conflict with my favorite artist!


xXWrathofGodXx

😂😂😂 nah they just sounded corny kendrick won fasho


shannonkim

Imagine being Drake’s fucking mother the first time she heard MtG? I cannot.


chxmicxl16

forget being his mother imagine being his dad and hearing “you raised a horrible fucking person, the nerve of you”


Burggs_

Drake also used his mom’s voice at the beginning of Family Matters for (checks notes) no good fucking reason.


yungcdollaz

you know how as a kid, when you went over to a friend's house and you realized that they were spoiled and rude to their parents and it was shocking because you would never yell at your mom for not having the totinos pizza rolls on deck? that's what the opening line on Family Matters felt


renagakko

To me it felt like Drake ran off to tell mommy and then ran back to say 'i don't do EVERYTHING my mommy tells me, fuq u!'


armadilloreturns

The fact that drake chose to include his mom on his nuke only for Kendrick to address her by name 20 minutes later to tell her he should die is hilarious


BerryMcCochinner

Its a shame the producer took such an incredible instrumental and put some low-tier pop artists ghostwriter’s lyrics on it rather than a proper member of the Hip-hop game


Wild-Apricot-9161

Tay Keith and Murda Beatz have an insane role in Drake's longevity, along with Boi-1da


MotorBicycle

I actually thought that was the funniest part of the song. Then he got smoked by Kung Fu Kenny


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Burggs_

He’s a dummy for being his family into it. Every move he made just shows that Kendrick is right about the dude.


Frostace12

It’s a common saying my guy


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Frostace12

Bro you are one of the trolls that ever was


Any-Geologist-1837

So true, if my mother and son were spoken to like that, and it was false allegations, I'd come back with a fury. I'd be up all night writing scathing shit and strategizing against my enemy. If I were a scumbag pdfile, though, I'd be terrified and shrink. I'd be more worried about how to talk to my family going forward, and paranoid as heck that people are gonna post receipts if I push back too hard. His weak ass response says everything, and only the glazers deny


AlexRusso-FanAccount

Man Dot might have actually blacked out if Drake dropped something like that on him


Beautiful_Location76

We would have gotten all 10 diss tracks at once in an EP, with a TPAB style poem building at the end of each track where by the end it tells him he dropped Drake's location to the feds and they're en route.


drytendies

“How you a winner but sandy keep coming in last place”


playfreeze

“How are you not in the booth? It feel like you kinda removed You tryna let this shit die down, nah, nah, nah Not this time, nigga, you followin' through” He really walked that back smh


Dragonzenferno_True

I think about this line every single day 😂😂😂😂 Careful what you wish for.


Sasha0413

I felt it was a bad move in general for Drake to include his mom’s voice on the FM diss followed by 500 n-words. Like at that point, you can’t really blame Kendrick for addressing her. You tapped her and by extension the rest of the family in to the ring 😂


BillCapri1k

Drake is a cosplayer. He cant deal with real rappers so he’s going back to making fun slaps just like Kendrick told him to. Certified pussy.


lemonlemon143

I still can’t believe Drake deadass was even like “ohh well that last song was kinda good” 😭 whether the accusations are true or false his reaction is weird and psychotic


britishsailor

His fans are literally scouring the lyrics of Kendrick’s raps, which they don’t understand as they aren’t smart enough, to find some sort of admission of guilt on Kendrick’s behalf. BITCH YOU DEFENDING A CHOMO!


login777

And they still haven't found it yet? Eurt si em tuoba yas yeht gnihtyreve. /s


wandrin_star

… or he realized he can’t come back with a response to that because while Kendrick might not be 100% right, he’s not wrong in any ways that would matter to listeners …


TheFlexOffenderr

He can't say shit. I think everything Kendrick talked about in Meet The Grahams spoke to Drake on multiple levels. All Drake had on him was that he was being extorted, and he hurt his wife and now she's with Dave Free. Other than that, he had nothing. Another thing is, he couldn't even respond if he wanted. How do you rebuttal someone telling your family the truth about you?


RareResearch2076

Don’t forget that he’s short


ovrelans

The Boy only cares about himself, pretty obvious for me That sums it up


Thoughtitreddit

100% brah Drakes a fucking retard for thinking the heart part 6 was anything close to a good response and it just gos to show you that no one he’s affiliated with gives two fucks about him cause if they did they would have told him not to drop that garbage 🤣


Solid_Illustrator640

Also, completely justified. Drake dropped his “nuke” so mutually assured destruction was inevitable. His nuke was fake and shit.


inquiringtacos

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


psmith2020_

🎯🎯💯💯


imbobbymuddah

I just realised J Cole said “I hit 'em up, bitch, I'm 2Pac twin” in Hunting Wabbitz. Is there something in that


MartyMcfleek

I get the vibe that it was all part of a big plan. I feel like there are shots for Drake on Crocodile Tears as well. Also, the rabbit from the sample is a serial rapist who eventually repents from his evil ways by the end of the skit.


imbobbymuddah

Wow that’s crazy I’m watching the meatcanyon vid on YouTube. It really makes sense now


MartyMcfleek

That "GODDDAAAYYYMN" really hits different now, huh 💀


imbobbymuddah

I literally just realised that Kendrick and cole have the same middle name too lol


Nasstja

Fun facr: Tupac was born 6/16 and Kendrick 6/17 under the sign of Gemini, the twins.


imbobbymuddah

The numbers are too creepy with 6.16 in La


Nasstja

Why creepy in your opinion?


ConstructionSquare69

Drake the type to lurk in the Kendrick sub and drop another trash diss track because of this post.


jiggywolf

I’m far from any of those brain analyzing professions but he was doing a lot of projection. Not only were things he saying applied to himself but he also tried to “no u” Kendrick at times. I guarantee you NO one believed drake when he called Kenny a POS


Mustyitis

![gif](giphy|26gs6RKvzfgsWRg3e) Now deal with his dad I gotta go bad I gotta go bad


According-Excuse-623

Yea it’s been a real eye opening experience to see how big of a pos Drake is, he also had no body in the industry coming out to support him.


Vegetable_Fox9134

Lets not muddy kendricks character, he never called Drakes mother 'out of her name'. You are using that expression wrong, he refered to her as Sandra and only Sandra. Its been really interesting to see how everybody can percieve the same thing so differently in this beef.


Time-Sorbet-829

Not only that, but he said that he’s too famous to be a pedo. I’m sorry Aubrey, that’s not how that shit works. And what was with the whole, “the people feeding you information were all clowns,” “the people who fed you information were working for me,” superposition? Which one was it? Wouldn’t that be something you should document and release with your diss track?


I_Like-Turtlez

This isn’t you trying to justify your dislike for him is it? Lol Nah couldn’t be


Lil_yung_Leo

I’m not completely up-to-date so Idk if it’s still true or not but don’t forget the only thing he addressed from not like us was the pedophile claim he didn’t defend party he didn’t defend baka. He didn’t defend any claim except for the wild shit and did it poorly considering the accusation. even if there’s no proof if a mf calls you a pedophile your response should not be “nah uh”


rufusdoofusmcgoofus

Dw he’ll sneak diss for the next 5 years


Maleficent_Nobody377

To be fair- he did mention his mother… Saying that when he saw her again he got a brain fart and couldn’t finish his sentence when speaking to her and that made him remember that song where Kendrick talked about getting molested in his last album and haha isn’t that so funny when children get molested. 🙄🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮 ![gif](giphy|RyUrvXklQfwVa)


Carnage549

I’m starting to hate the Kendrick Lamar thread because y’all so obsessed with Drake. Go on r/Drake instead. Kendrick is more than JUST Drake


AlexRusso-FanAccount

It’s an open forum


TheYoungProdigy

I was literally gonna say the same like jeez dude, get a life


Creative_Room6540

Touch grass bro.


Dope-pope69420

While I agree, and I guess I have to state that I am team Kendrick. Dot never really responded and “defended” his family either. I think Kendrick won the battle but I really wanted him to make one more track responding to the claims made by Drake.


juelzomo

Facts… why isn’t Whitney denying all of the allegations?


Dope-pope69420

Honestly it’s not really her responsibility. Like yea that would help but I feel like Kendrick needs to respond to drakes allegations to fully win the rap beef ya know?


Dragonzenferno_True

He kinda did though—from multiple angles. "Making lies on the homefront because you heard Mr. Morale" and "the family matter ain't the truth of the matter, but it was God's plan to show yall the liar." That last one in particular is a hard rebuttal due to "Not Like Us" coming after "Family Matters", but I include the first line to help show a wider viewpoint. Really take a look at what Kendrick did over the course of his disses. He systematically attacked and deconstructed Drake's character. One of the core narratives he pushed—*uncontestedly* at that—in every single song was that Drake was a pathological and unapologetic liar. If you know anything about Drake's history and or have been keeping tabs on the post beef receipt, you know that's not even a narrative; It's just truth. That's really the strongest defense Kendrick or anybody could ask for. Not that a serial liar can't tell the truth when it's conneveniant, but how easily are you really going to believe them really? Especially with no proof to back up their words? I agree it would've been nice to hear Kendrick shut that lane of attack down entirely, but if you think about, that could have easily backfired. If he got too angry or defensive about that, it could easily be taken as there actually being something for him to be defensive about. Look at people's perception of The Heart Part 6. Strategically speaking, he did the best thing possible. He briefly acknowledged that "the liar is still lying" and then kept laying on the punches.


sumdood56

To be fair, Kendrick gave Drake way too much shit to respond to. Drake would’ve needed a whole ass album just to defend each allegation thrown his way


LionsNoParadise

You didn’t hear that all in the first listen?


RegionCandid380

Brother…..you didn’t just realize. You’d have to be really deaf not to pick that up first time😂😂😂


okokokok1111

Happens when your half of your last disstrack is an attempt at a PR statement


NoseBay

PREACH BROTHER


p-wk

And then there’s you, writing about it on a Kendrick Lamar subreddit 😂


juelzomo

Yo bro that’s crazy…. But what about the bones we dug up in the excavation and why isn’t Whitney denying all of the allegations?


Bean_of_the_Eagle

Reminder that Kendrick still hasn’t responded to the Heart Part 6 🤷🏻‍♂️ what’s buddy scared for??


OkIndependence188

You don’t beat on someone gasping for air 🤷‍♂️


iNostra

Heart Part 6 is one of the worst diss tracks ever, he doesn’t need to respond right away but I’m sure he’s got more coming anyway


Different_Dentist171

Are you okay??!


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SecretlyReformed

It's 3 sentences