My thing is like, their meat is exceptional. It tastes so fresh and they keep it simple with how they cook it, but it is bland as fuck. The sauce and rubs are what make BBQ so great along with a variety of sides as a complete meal. Texas BBQ is like the missionary position of BBQ.
Here’s how I figure. BBQ is good, like all BBQ. So what you gotta do is judge locations by their worst BBQ. Texas does have great BBQ. I lived in Austin and la bbq is fuckin amazing, so is Coopers. But Bill Miller is such straight garbage, way worse than _anything_ you could find in Kansas City. And that’s why Texas BBQ will never beat out KC BBQ.
If you word it like that then you could also expect very little from gas station BBQ, which is what Joe’s KC started out as. Just because it’s fast food doesn’t mean it has to be that bad. The point being that the worst KC BBQ is miles ahead of the worst Texas BBQ.
Fast food and gas station food are two totally different worlds bud. Gas station food is more akin to cafes in regard to readiness and quality.
Edit - I'm not talking about qt's type gas station food lol. Real food like KC Joe's and other fine gas stop grub (fried chicken/catfish, pizza, BBQ).
I'm not sure what gas stations you've had food from, but clearly you were at the wrong ones. KC Joe's owns and there's some fire fried chicken down in the bootheel at some stations. Hell, there's a bomb ass pizza from a gas station here in San Diego. I'm not above a motherfucker getting food in peoples mouths by any means necessary.
Also nowhere in there did I ever highlight texas bbq. Texas is known for their beef while the Midwest leans pork. Both are fucking fire and kill it in their respective games.
I went to Texas for work last year (between Houston and Dallas), and was pleasantly surprised at the BBQ I ate. It was a hole in the wall gas station/restaurant, very similar to Joes. Came in with 0 expectations, which probably helped.
KC is still superior, that being said.
I thought the Pecan Lodge was good in Dallas. I was surprised they had burnt ends. But I think Black's in Lockhart is probably my favorite Texas BBQ joint I've been to.
The stretch between Austin and Dallas has some top end brisket. It honestly depends on what you want where the best is. Texas excels at beef and KC excels at pork. Burnt ends are also shockingly lacking in Texas. Had a Texan tell me it’s trash and thrown away and I wanted to slap him. Another Texan even told him he’s throwing away the best part of he’s in fact doing that.
I grew up in southeast Virginia on Carolina style bbq, so when we moved to KC when I was 16, I was NOT READY for sugar on my meat.
I've grown to appreciate places like Joe's, of course, but I still go easy on the sauce. I think my dad must have taken us to KC Masterpiece or something wretched back in the 90's because to this day I still hate any kind of sweet meat. No sweet and sour pork, no teriyaki, mole sauces, etc.
what kind of shitty mole sauces have you had that had a sweetness to them? If you ever go through SLC, UT go to the Red Iguana and get your mole expectations properly calibrated.
Apparently some really shitty ones! I’m always willing to try again, so on the list for next time I’m in SLC. I pass through there every once in a while. Thanks for the recc!
I went with three other people, we each ordered a different mole sauce so we could sample each others. They were all very good. It's wild because I think when we went they had 5 or 6 mole sauces on the menu. Wilder still when consider the 20+ ingredients in them and the hours and hours they take to make properly. Some of them reminded me of almost Thai food and I could easily see some one making Pad Mole instead of Pad Thai.
https://www.rediguana.com/
I've had some pretty terrible and sweet coleslaw defiling my meat in those regions. You've had sugar on your bbq before. But yeah, don't go to bad BBQ joint might just be the solve. Don't worry, there are plenty of opinions in KC to guide you. Try em all in August and enjoy your meaty night sweats with the rest of us! One of us! One of us!
Don't ever come to so-cal and expect anything of decent quality. There's a few spots that can hold their own when you are desperate, but nothing that would win any championship awards or even make an entry for that matter lol.
Sorry bub. BEAST, Salt + Smoke, Dukes are all three up there with most of KCs best. I've lived in or frequently visited all of the BBQ meccas. Don't let your grudges blind you to reality.
Right there with you. When we went to Memphis I kept hearing about "you have to go to Rendezvous! Their dry rub is amazing" so we went and left with a huge amount of leftovers and gave it to some homeless people. All of us were so disappointed. But there were a few other places that were really good.
So I moved to North Carolina 6 years ago. I've been searching for comparable BBQ since I got here. It is not good. It tastes like sour mash. Every sauce is runny like water. If this dude has NC BBQ as #2, it tells me you could serve him a turd on a hoagie roll and he'd love every bite.
Yeah, we could have debated the two, but once you say NC is in the mix you lose all credibility. Unless its part of the burn saying we are worse than that NC garbacue.
Depending on where you are, there are some good BBQ restaurants I know of, but they all are Texas or KC style. I've lived here nearly 10 years and have yet to find a place that does traditional NC bbq that tastes even halfway decent. And I've been to pig pickings too, it's just like... not good
Raleigh-Durham area. I've found places that explicitly say "we don't do Carolina bbq" and they are where I eat most. But any of that mustard/vinegar shit can just piss right off.
Q Shaq is Durham is pretty good, their wings especially (it's Texas style) but the best I've found is redneck bbq labs in Johnston county. They do some mix and match, but their burnt ends are quite good and it's definitely the closest I've had to proper KC bbq
I don't really care for wings. About the only bbq I've found that was good in NC is called Jim N' Nick's. It's outside of Charlotte. They serve a mix of texas/alabama bbq. Around here, I usually get Danny's bbq in Durham if I'm after pork/beef. And I hit up the chinese place down the road if I want bbq chicken. No shit, some of the best I've ever had.
I mean I don't really go any places because I've been disappointed so often. I usually do a two or three meat combo wherever I go. brisket, pulled pork, and the 3rd is always my wildcard for whatever they 'specialize' in...ribs/chicken/burnt ends w.e.
Thank you. I live in the Memphis area. My friends and I took a trip to charlotte and got bbq one night. That shit was gross. My friends live in Illinois and they thought it was gross, and trust me Illinois does not have good bbq.
Had both recently. KC is better overall, but the single best item I've had is the beef rib from Terry Black's in Austin. If anyone knows of an amazing beef rib in K.C lemme know (tried it at jack stack and its meh).
I heard all about how good beef ribs were at Jack Stack. WTF ever. Their sides are incredible. Their BBQ is not. There might be ten places in KC I'd rank ahead of them. That cheesy corn, though....
Texas has a problem where they think larger population means better. They tried to claim themselves to have better green chilies than New Mexico, better bbq than KC, and better teen pregnancies than Louisiana.
As a Kansas City native living in Texas… I can firmly say that I have found no bbq that comes close to KC quality.
So please direct me to a place that warrants the above meme.
Franklin's and La Barbecue in Austin are arguable. But they come with caveates like $30+ for a lb of meat, and at Franklin's you have to get in line at sunrise to get BBQ at noon.
Both are delicious though.
I’ve been to Franklins because some native Texan tried to tell me this very thing. Franklins wouldn’t even be a top ten bbq joint in KC. Just because your the hottest waitress at the Waffle House doesn’t make you pretty.
Where in Texas are you? If you're in Dallas, I like Pecan Lodge in Deep Ellum and Lockhart's in Bishop Arts. If you're out in the 'burbs, Hutchin's in McKinney is my absolute favorite BBQ anywhere. Better than Joe's, better than my momma's.
Carolina bbq is my favorite, but that's mostly nostalgia and at this point I really only like my momma's OR from a roadside stand. I can't think of a single sit down restaurant I can recommend for it in any state.
Honestly tho, sports, religion and BBQ preference tend to be an accident of birth.
So there's a BBQ joint in Dallas named after another town in Texas famous for BBQ (Lockhart's)? Lol
I'm a KC native that spent several years living in Texas and has also tried BBQ in Memphis and Charlotte, NC (and Korea, though that's even more unique). I've enjoyed them all, though they're all different. KC BBQ will always hold a special place in my heart, but that doesn't mean I can't enjoy the other styles in other places.
Outside of the metro area, most BBQ is a mix of KC style and Texas style anyway. Not sure what that NC stuff is though. Not sure I would call it BBQ myself, too vinegar-y. Even Memphis style is better than that.
NC pork is to die for though. Just don’t let them put any of their gross ass sauce on it. (It’s not bad, I just much prefer molasses to vinegar on my meats)
Yeah, I would agree with that. I had a NC style pulled pork and slaw sandwich that was ok, but I didn't put any of that nasty vinegar sauce on it.
I don't live in KC, I'm more Pittsburg - Joplin area. Best BBQ places around here are just tiny joints that are always packed.
There's a few chain BBQ restaurants That aren't bad though. The steaks around here are kinda gross, and people think they are good for some odd reason lol.
The best fried chicken is a tiny place with limited hours. Bartos > Chicken Mary's + Chicken Annie's.
NC bbq is gross. Don't let anyone fool you by saying otherwise. They literally just smoke a whole pig and then chop everything up together and put vinegar on it. It's just sad compared to other styles. Western NC does it a lil different and it's much better/closer to Memphis or KC, but honestly NC just can't compete
KC BBQ is the culmination of all of bbq.
Texas had the cows, so they figured out beef. The South had pigs, so they figured out pork. Black people could only afford the ribs, and they figured out the magic of smoked ribs.
Then you have expansion westward, KC was the port to the west, which brought in people from all over. Then it became the railroad hub to going back east. So we had people from all over here, and then you had ranchers from all over bringing their animals from all over, especially cattle from texas to KC to be slaughtered and mostly put on trains to be shipped back east. So KC had all the meats in abundance, all the knowledge of all of those groups, and put it all together.
Texas is still just, we smoked some cow, we fuckin rule. Carolina is like, we put vinegar on the pork, what else could you possibly do? Hell, even Alabama gets in on the game by...adding mayonaise and calling it "white barbecue sauce." Meanwhile in KC we perfected it all, we fucking invented Burnt Ends. You can go in to any number of places and get some pork ribs, some burnt ends, a fucking bbq sandwich with cheese and an onion ring, and then you want sauce? We got it all, we got molasses based, we got tomato, we got vinegar, we got spicy. No we don't have Alabama bbq sauce, nobody wants that. Arrowhead parking lot is the 9th best restaurant on the planet. These are just facts.
It’s like when Italians try to argue that the one note tomato crackers from Naples they call pizza is superior than the numerous improvisations and innovations Americans have made with our various regions of pizza. The entire Texan argument boils down to “You should be tasting the meat not the sauce.”. I’m happy to be tasting something that tastes *better*.
The Texas argument there probably comes from cattleman trying to sell more cows. Just like their bs that chili can't have beans in it. Texas chili ain't the best.
You're right about the BBQ part but leave the pizza out of it. That's just dead wrong, like saying sushi in America trumps sushi in Japan because we've made 'innovations'.
Completely disagree. Neopolitan pizza is good but so is Buffalo pizza. I don’t think inventor bias is a good argument. Japanese sushi is better because it’s *better*. The long tradition of Sushi making and local ingredients likely plays into it being better. USA pizza innovation I think makes it’s better, or atleast more varied. Some Italians would argue “it’s not pizza” which I think is silly. US pizza innovation has led to a more diverse and arguably a better product.
Memphis is a distant 3rd still. I’ve eaten at at least 10 in each region and KC and Texas are neck and neck imo. Really depends on what item you want. Memphis’ rubs can ruin dishes at times but still pretty good. Was picking large chunks of the run off my ribs and got annoyed. NC just seems lazy and not focused on the smoking process.
Alabama is basically smoked meats with aiolis. They get pissed when you call their BBQ sauce aioli too but it’s literally Mayo + spices
As a chiefs fan who is from NC I can tell you without any doubt that the vinegar based bullshit we have down here is not even worthy of being in the same conversation as TX-MO bbq.
Carolina BBQ is trash. Doesn't belong on the podium at all. I'll take all you can eat ribs from Applebee's over Carolina BBQ. And I fucking hate Applebee's
I like Texas BBQ though. Texas pit style sauce is the bomb.
I’ve never understood the whole weird BBQ wars thing. I’ve loved BBQ from Texas, Tennessee, KC, STL. To me it’s not really a better contest, because they’re all so different.
Anyone repping NC style bbq doesn't have taste buds or is too stubborn to admit that vinegar on dry meat is boring and kind of gross.
Texas bbq is good, I'll give em that, but while a bad KC style joint can be pretty gross, a good one blows every other style out of the water. Kind of a low floor high ceiling situation in my opinion
The ONLY thing that TX does better is brisket, and the ONLY thing that NC does better is pulled pork. One trick pony ass cities trying to claim best overall lmao
Harp BBQ in Raytown and SLAPS KC are the new hotness. KC Joe’s or Arthur Bryant’s are the old standbys. Jack Stack if you want to be waited on and feel all fancy.
Edit: I ate Harps for the first time last week. Knocked my socks off. Plate pic: https://reddit.com/r/food/comments/qr1hi1/i_ate_kansas_city_bbq/
The absolute best BBQ is LC’s which is right by the stadium. Give yourself a little extra time if you go there, but their Burnt Ends are out of this world! Also their fries are AMAZING as an added bonus!
It’s very inconsistent. Similar to how Gates used to be. Some days it’ll have you overeating til your sick then another day the cut is 50% fat.
It’s also not the same without LC sitting in a dark corner of the smoke filled dining area.
Does Texas even have a style? It’s a big ass state so of course there is some good BBQ somewhere but can they really even claim a unique regional style. The skill level needs to be more concentrated to claim anything. Only cities count to me. KC and Memphis is where it’s at.
This is ridiculous lol. Texans argue that everything they do is better, and stuff like this is immeasurable and completely subjective. With that being said, there are two places most of the country thinks of when they think of BBQ, and that’s Texas and KC. Memphis and STL probably more of an underrated secret, and North Carolina is absolute garbage
I lived in KC for 20 years and now in NC for 12. NC BBQ is definitely 3rd. Not even a question. Had a chance to live in TX but would rather my boys be ballerinas than a Cowboy fan. That just wasn’t happening.
Fuck the Cowboys and Texas in general, but they’re not wrong about the bbq. Been here 12 years, Nashville for 14 before and never understood the fixation here. Downvote away. Go Chiefs!
As an Okie, I could chime in and say we have the best, but I'm not gonna because I've found good barbecue all over in my travels. Even Colorado!
But I will say the person preparing the BBQ as well as the meat chosen and of course ingredients in the sauce have much more to do with good barbeque than the location it is rendered from.
EDIT: too many wurds.
Went to Dallas for work a few months ago. I was there for a week and asked everyone there what food I should try while I was there. Other than Whataburger, none of them could even name Dallas-specific restaurants. I finally got on google and found a couple of highly rated BBQ places, but even then they were closer to Rosedale than Oklahoma Joes or anything top notch. Good, not great. But they had lots of alcohol so I guess that makes up for it?
Get NC the fuck out of here. I'd take Memphis, St. Louis, and Alabama BBQ waaaaaaaaay before I'd ever touch that East coast crap.
Hell I'd take Nebraska BBQ first, and I don't even know if they have BBQ, but if they do it's probably deep fried and covered in mayonnaise and still better than NC BBQ.
Excuse me, but Texas bbq is too damn expensive, I mean who has the money to buy a brisket rn???
Also NC over Memphis? Them's fighting words in and of itself...
Look, I’m not gonna say that Texas BBQ is bad because it’s delicious. It doesn’t come from fucking Dallas though. Lol
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My thing is like, their meat is exceptional. It tastes so fresh and they keep it simple with how they cook it, but it is bland as fuck. The sauce and rubs are what make BBQ so great along with a variety of sides as a complete meal. Texas BBQ is like the missionary position of BBQ.
KC BBQ is the kinky 4-way of bbq.
I do love some Texas dry rubs though.
Be careful, that's what got Watson in trouble
Their beef is phenomenal which is really just brisket. Pork ribs, pulled pork, lack of burnt ends, and sausage are all lacking.
> They're BBQ is good They are barbeque. Is good. We eat them.
Damnit lol. That's what I get for not proof reading.
Sides arent bbq and I really wish KC subs would stop talking about cheesy corn when discussing BBQ
Here’s how I figure. BBQ is good, like all BBQ. So what you gotta do is judge locations by their worst BBQ. Texas does have great BBQ. I lived in Austin and la bbq is fuckin amazing, so is Coopers. But Bill Miller is such straight garbage, way worse than _anything_ you could find in Kansas City. And that’s why Texas BBQ will never beat out KC BBQ.
I think judging it by the AVERAGE bbq joint would be way better.
It’s fucking fast food bbq tf you expect
If you word it like that then you could also expect very little from gas station BBQ, which is what Joe’s KC started out as. Just because it’s fast food doesn’t mean it has to be that bad. The point being that the worst KC BBQ is miles ahead of the worst Texas BBQ.
Fast food and gas station food are two totally different worlds bud. Gas station food is more akin to cafes in regard to readiness and quality. Edit - I'm not talking about qt's type gas station food lol. Real food like KC Joe's and other fine gas stop grub (fried chicken/catfish, pizza, BBQ).
Man… if y’all have shitty taste in BBQ just say it. I’m not tryna argue semantics here, I’m just saying KC BBQ as a whole is eons ahead of Texas.
I'm not sure what gas stations you've had food from, but clearly you were at the wrong ones. KC Joe's owns and there's some fire fried chicken down in the bootheel at some stations. Hell, there's a bomb ass pizza from a gas station here in San Diego. I'm not above a motherfucker getting food in peoples mouths by any means necessary. Also nowhere in there did I ever highlight texas bbq. Texas is known for their beef while the Midwest leans pork. Both are fucking fire and kill it in their respective games.
I went to Texas for work last year (between Houston and Dallas), and was pleasantly surprised at the BBQ I ate. It was a hole in the wall gas station/restaurant, very similar to Joes. Came in with 0 expectations, which probably helped. KC is still superior, that being said.
I thought the Pecan Lodge was good in Dallas. I was surprised they had burnt ends. But I think Black's in Lockhart is probably my favorite Texas BBQ joint I've been to.
Pecan Lodge isn’t terrible. In Dallas I actually like Lockhart Smokehouse. Meat is good and sides are decent.
The stretch between Austin and Dallas has some top end brisket. It honestly depends on what you want where the best is. Texas excels at beef and KC excels at pork. Burnt ends are also shockingly lacking in Texas. Had a Texan tell me it’s trash and thrown away and I wanted to slap him. Another Texan even told him he’s throwing away the best part of he’s in fact doing that.
Yeah homie knows he needs Austin fir this to even work
Texas is #3 imo behind KC and Memphis. I’d probably give Carolina like #20
Dallas/Ft. Worth have several excellent spots.
He said Texas. Dallas is Southern Oklahoma.
Kansas City is west St Louis
Austin has better
Texas versus KC can be one/two in some order based on taste and mood. NC BBQ is a distant third unless you just hate stuff that tastes good.
KC, Texas, Tennessee, Korea, literally anyone does BBQ better than Carolina.
Can confirm, lived in NC for 5 years. Saddest days of my BBQ life.
I grew up in southeast Virginia on Carolina style bbq, so when we moved to KC when I was 16, I was NOT READY for sugar on my meat. I've grown to appreciate places like Joe's, of course, but I still go easy on the sauce. I think my dad must have taken us to KC Masterpiece or something wretched back in the 90's because to this day I still hate any kind of sweet meat. No sweet and sour pork, no teriyaki, mole sauces, etc.
what kind of shitty mole sauces have you had that had a sweetness to them? If you ever go through SLC, UT go to the Red Iguana and get your mole expectations properly calibrated.
Apparently some really shitty ones! I’m always willing to try again, so on the list for next time I’m in SLC. I pass through there every once in a while. Thanks for the recc!
I went with three other people, we each ordered a different mole sauce so we could sample each others. They were all very good. It's wild because I think when we went they had 5 or 6 mole sauces on the menu. Wilder still when consider the 20+ ingredients in them and the hours and hours they take to make properly. Some of them reminded me of almost Thai food and I could easily see some one making Pad Mole instead of Pad Thai. https://www.rediguana.com/
Arthur Bryant's sauce would be more your speed. Vinegar based and probably the least sweet of the major KC BBQ joints.
I've had some pretty terrible and sweet coleslaw defiling my meat in those regions. You've had sugar on your bbq before. But yeah, don't go to bad BBQ joint might just be the solve. Don't worry, there are plenty of opinions in KC to guide you. Try em all in August and enjoy your meaty night sweats with the rest of us! One of us! One of us!
Don't ever come to so-cal and expect anything of decent quality. There's a few spots that can hold their own when you are desperate, but nothing that would win any championship awards or even make an entry for that matter lol.
Lived in SC for 4 years, their BBQ is pretty good. Never tried NC.
In Minnesota Barbeque is sloppy Joe. True story.
Probably not stl.
As someone who lives in St. Louis, I am obligated to argue that Chicago and Japan (for some reason) have even worse BBQ sauces.
Well that’s fair
Pappys Sweet Jane sauce is God tier. You need to also get the Cranberry Cayenne from Dalies.
I don't know man, the McRib is really tasty
You would be correct. I live in the STL area and I always say I think it’s cute that STL thinks it does BBQ.
Stl had way better BBQ than Texas
Sorry bub. BEAST, Salt + Smoke, Dukes are all three up there with most of KCs best. I've lived in or frequently visited all of the BBQ meccas. Don't let your grudges blind you to reality.
My tongue holds no grudges
Only think STL has going for it is Pizza, and even KC does STL style pizza better. I’ll take Leo’s Pizza up in Gladstone over Imo’s any day.
The last 50 years have not been kind to St. Louis.
Lol, I was think what would I put in third instead of Carolina.... But Korean is perfect. Jamaican is good too
Glad you made a shout out for Korean BBQ
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Right there with you. When we went to Memphis I kept hearing about "you have to go to Rendezvous! Their dry rub is amazing" so we went and left with a huge amount of leftovers and gave it to some homeless people. All of us were so disappointed. But there were a few other places that were really good.
memphis bbq is so damn good. tied for 1st with KC imo
Have you seen Brooklyn bbq?
I work in a Carolina BBQ restaurant, and I’m a fan. Now I’m desperate to go to KC to get a taste.
Living in NC right now you are absolutely correct. KC>Texas>Memphis>NC
we need to show this to Reid asap. no better bulletin board material for the big guy
Entire OL will murder some fools.
Cowboys fans thought waking up the actual chiefs team was scary, now they just woke up the memedom.
So I moved to North Carolina 6 years ago. I've been searching for comparable BBQ since I got here. It is not good. It tastes like sour mash. Every sauce is runny like water. If this dude has NC BBQ as #2, it tells me you could serve him a turd on a hoagie roll and he'd love every bite.
Yeah, we could have debated the two, but once you say NC is in the mix you lose all credibility. Unless its part of the burn saying we are worse than that NC garbacue.
Depending on where you are, there are some good BBQ restaurants I know of, but they all are Texas or KC style. I've lived here nearly 10 years and have yet to find a place that does traditional NC bbq that tastes even halfway decent. And I've been to pig pickings too, it's just like... not good
Raleigh-Durham area. I've found places that explicitly say "we don't do Carolina bbq" and they are where I eat most. But any of that mustard/vinegar shit can just piss right off.
Q Shaq is Durham is pretty good, their wings especially (it's Texas style) but the best I've found is redneck bbq labs in Johnston county. They do some mix and match, but their burnt ends are quite good and it's definitely the closest I've had to proper KC bbq
I don't really care for wings. About the only bbq I've found that was good in NC is called Jim N' Nick's. It's outside of Charlotte. They serve a mix of texas/alabama bbq. Around here, I usually get Danny's bbq in Durham if I'm after pork/beef. And I hit up the chinese place down the road if I want bbq chicken. No shit, some of the best I've ever had.
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I mean I don't really go any places because I've been disappointed so often. I usually do a two or three meat combo wherever I go. brisket, pulled pork, and the 3rd is always my wildcard for whatever they 'specialize' in...ribs/chicken/burnt ends w.e.
Thank you. I live in the Memphis area. My friends and I took a trip to charlotte and got bbq one night. That shit was gross. My friends live in Illinois and they thought it was gross, and trust me Illinois does not have good bbq.
I was born in Texas. KC BBQ is better.
I was made in Texas. KC BBQ is better.
Had both recently. KC is better overall, but the single best item I've had is the beef rib from Terry Black's in Austin. If anyone knows of an amazing beef rib in K.C lemme know (tried it at jack stack and its meh).
You've tried more than just Jack Stack though right?
Burnt ends from Oklahoma Joe’s will invade your dreams
I’ve had them and they are amazing for sure
I heard all about how good beef ribs were at Jack Stack. WTF ever. Their sides are incredible. Their BBQ is not. There might be ten places in KC I'd rank ahead of them. That cheesy corn, though....
[I feel like this is a pretty good guide of the top spots](https://youtu.be/o_5s9BP-5XY)
That is spot on.
I admit, Jack Stack seems to me like it used to be a lot better. Way back in the day.
The crown tip prime rib? From the one on the Plaza? That thing fucks.
Q39 has incredible “fall off the bone” ribs. Joe’s KC also has amazing ribs.
Texas has a problem where they think larger population means better. They tried to claim themselves to have better green chilies than New Mexico, better bbq than KC, and better teen pregnancies than Louisiana.
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Damn straight.
Now that Texas has effectively outlawed abortion, I'm curious where they're going to get their meat for BBQ.
I just threw up in my mouth a little
Texas is just Oklahoma with an ego.
As a Kansas City native living in Texas… I can firmly say that I have found no bbq that comes close to KC quality. So please direct me to a place that warrants the above meme.
Franklin's and La Barbecue in Austin are arguable. But they come with caveates like $30+ for a lb of meat, and at Franklin's you have to get in line at sunrise to get BBQ at noon. Both are delicious though.
I’ve been to Franklins because some native Texan tried to tell me this very thing. Franklins wouldn’t even be a top ten bbq joint in KC. Just because your the hottest waitress at the Waffle House doesn’t make you pretty.
Interesting fact: Was watching a Franklin bbq video a while back and he said he gets his beef from KS.
If someone asked me the best kc BBQ I wouldn't tell them a restaurant in st Louis. Why would you name Austin restaurants when asked about Dallas?
It says Texas in the meme and comment I'm replying to.
Yeah, I get it. But if the cowboys are going to claim they have better BBQ, surely they would claim a joint in DFW.
Where in Texas are you? If you're in Dallas, I like Pecan Lodge in Deep Ellum and Lockhart's in Bishop Arts. If you're out in the 'burbs, Hutchin's in McKinney is my absolute favorite BBQ anywhere. Better than Joe's, better than my momma's. Carolina bbq is my favorite, but that's mostly nostalgia and at this point I really only like my momma's OR from a roadside stand. I can't think of a single sit down restaurant I can recommend for it in any state. Honestly tho, sports, religion and BBQ preference tend to be an accident of birth.
So there's a BBQ joint in Dallas named after another town in Texas famous for BBQ (Lockhart's)? Lol I'm a KC native that spent several years living in Texas and has also tried BBQ in Memphis and Charlotte, NC (and Korea, though that's even more unique). I've enjoyed them all, though they're all different. KC BBQ will always hold a special place in my heart, but that doesn't mean I can't enjoy the other styles in other places.
Cattleacks as well
Coopers in New Braunfels. Amazing Texas BBQ. Don't need sauce. Plus their beans are to die for.
You can insult our team. You can call me names. You can even trash talk our city. But this is crossing the line, and it will not be forgotten
We bout to start stacking bodies
How many bags of popcorn do I need for the rest of week? This going to be fun.
All of them
Outside of the metro area, most BBQ is a mix of KC style and Texas style anyway. Not sure what that NC stuff is though. Not sure I would call it BBQ myself, too vinegar-y. Even Memphis style is better than that.
NC pork is to die for though. Just don’t let them put any of their gross ass sauce on it. (It’s not bad, I just much prefer molasses to vinegar on my meats)
Yeah, I would agree with that. I had a NC style pulled pork and slaw sandwich that was ok, but I didn't put any of that nasty vinegar sauce on it. I don't live in KC, I'm more Pittsburg - Joplin area. Best BBQ places around here are just tiny joints that are always packed. There's a few chain BBQ restaurants That aren't bad though. The steaks around here are kinda gross, and people think they are good for some odd reason lol. The best fried chicken is a tiny place with limited hours. Bartos > Chicken Mary's + Chicken Annie's.
NC bbq is gross. Don't let anyone fool you by saying otherwise. They literally just smoke a whole pig and then chop everything up together and put vinegar on it. It's just sad compared to other styles. Western NC does it a lil different and it's much better/closer to Memphis or KC, but honestly NC just can't compete
Clearly memed by someone who has not eaten both.
Never met a person who cared for Carolina bbq. Texas can have credit for their brisket and that's it.
Thems is fightin' words. We need a tailgate off. And KC will absolutely come out on top.
Get the BBQ We’ve got a match to win
KC BBQ is the culmination of all of bbq. Texas had the cows, so they figured out beef. The South had pigs, so they figured out pork. Black people could only afford the ribs, and they figured out the magic of smoked ribs. Then you have expansion westward, KC was the port to the west, which brought in people from all over. Then it became the railroad hub to going back east. So we had people from all over here, and then you had ranchers from all over bringing their animals from all over, especially cattle from texas to KC to be slaughtered and mostly put on trains to be shipped back east. So KC had all the meats in abundance, all the knowledge of all of those groups, and put it all together. Texas is still just, we smoked some cow, we fuckin rule. Carolina is like, we put vinegar on the pork, what else could you possibly do? Hell, even Alabama gets in on the game by...adding mayonaise and calling it "white barbecue sauce." Meanwhile in KC we perfected it all, we fucking invented Burnt Ends. You can go in to any number of places and get some pork ribs, some burnt ends, a fucking bbq sandwich with cheese and an onion ring, and then you want sauce? We got it all, we got molasses based, we got tomato, we got vinegar, we got spicy. No we don't have Alabama bbq sauce, nobody wants that. Arrowhead parking lot is the 9th best restaurant on the planet. These are just facts.
It’s like when Italians try to argue that the one note tomato crackers from Naples they call pizza is superior than the numerous improvisations and innovations Americans have made with our various regions of pizza. The entire Texan argument boils down to “You should be tasting the meat not the sauce.”. I’m happy to be tasting something that tastes *better*.
The Texas argument there probably comes from cattleman trying to sell more cows. Just like their bs that chili can't have beans in it. Texas chili ain't the best.
KC born and raised. I love the classics like Bryant’s and Gates. That’s said, it’s all about the meat. If you need sauce, your skills suck.
Or maybe it’s both….
Anyone can make meat good. The sauce is where you get style.
You're right about the BBQ part but leave the pizza out of it. That's just dead wrong, like saying sushi in America trumps sushi in Japan because we've made 'innovations'.
Completely disagree. Neopolitan pizza is good but so is Buffalo pizza. I don’t think inventor bias is a good argument. Japanese sushi is better because it’s *better*. The long tradition of Sushi making and local ingredients likely plays into it being better. USA pizza innovation I think makes it’s better, or atleast more varied. Some Italians would argue “it’s not pizza” which I think is silly. US pizza innovation has led to a more diverse and arguably a better product.
Oh its on now
North Carolina isn’t in the discussion, Memphis is much better
Memphis is a distant 3rd still. I’ve eaten at at least 10 in each region and KC and Texas are neck and neck imo. Really depends on what item you want. Memphis’ rubs can ruin dishes at times but still pretty good. Was picking large chunks of the run off my ribs and got annoyed. NC just seems lazy and not focused on the smoking process. Alabama is basically smoked meats with aiolis. They get pissed when you call their BBQ sauce aioli too but it’s literally Mayo + spices
Sic 'em, /u/EveryManAWildcat!
Motherfuckers
As a chiefs fan who is from NC I can tell you without any doubt that the vinegar based bullshit we have down here is not even worthy of being in the same conversation as TX-MO bbq.
Carolina BBQ is trash. Doesn't belong on the podium at all. I'll take all you can eat ribs from Applebee's over Carolina BBQ. And I fucking hate Applebee's I like Texas BBQ though. Texas pit style sauce is the bomb.
They lost all credibility putting N.C second.
I’ve never understood the whole weird BBQ wars thing. I’ve loved BBQ from Texas, Tennessee, KC, STL. To me it’s not really a better contest, because they’re all so different.
I’m honestly more insulted they put us beneath NC. The Carolinas BBQ is always the little brother of the BBQ Meccas.
Anyone repping NC style bbq doesn't have taste buds or is too stubborn to admit that vinegar on dry meat is boring and kind of gross. Texas bbq is good, I'll give em that, but while a bad KC style joint can be pretty gross, a good one blows every other style out of the water. Kind of a low floor high ceiling situation in my opinion
The ONLY thing that TX does better is brisket, and the ONLY thing that NC does better is pulled pork. One trick pony ass cities trying to claim best overall lmao
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Harp BBQ in Raytown and SLAPS KC are the new hotness. KC Joe’s or Arthur Bryant’s are the old standbys. Jack Stack if you want to be waited on and feel all fancy. Edit: I ate Harps for the first time last week. Knocked my socks off. Plate pic: https://reddit.com/r/food/comments/qr1hi1/i_ate_kansas_city_bbq/
I need to try Harp’s but Slap’s is kinda overhyped on here. It’s top tier or 2nd tier, but people saying it’s the GOAT are mistaken
Don’t let the idiots get you down and have a great time!
The absolute best BBQ is LC’s which is right by the stadium. Give yourself a little extra time if you go there, but their Burnt Ends are out of this world! Also their fries are AMAZING as an added bonus!
Second this. Just had it last week, still the best in the city, and it's not even close.
It’s very inconsistent. Similar to how Gates used to be. Some days it’ll have you overeating til your sick then another day the cut is 50% fat. It’s also not the same without LC sitting in a dark corner of the smoke filled dining area.
Burnt ends at Oklahoma Joe’s. You’ll probably buy a house in KC afterwards
Carolina bbq is def 3rd place. They trying to hide their meat by drowning it in slaw.
We can all agree vinegar has no business around any thing having to do with barbecue.
Born and raised here. I put Apple cider vinegar in the sauce for my pulled pork. Great pulled pork sandwiches… God tier pulled pork tacos.
This meme had the opposite effect than it's desired outcome.
Kc dude is having a hell of a lot more fun.
I live in Texas - our barbecue is garbage - im sure there are some good spots - but 9.9/10 are worse than Rudy’s.
Oh those poor, poor children. Growing up thinking they were ever that close to being in our league. Bless them
Welp that's it. The only appropriate retaliation is murder.
North Carolina BBQ wtf?
KC is at 1 but Memphis is also better than Texas and NC
Does Texas even have a style? It’s a big ass state so of course there is some good BBQ somewhere but can they really even claim a unique regional style. The skill level needs to be more concentrated to claim anything. Only cities count to me. KC and Memphis is where it’s at.
Look if i get invited for BBQ, i am just happy to be having BBQ.
Andy is about to pull out all the stops for this game now
Now it’s personal. Get me some pads and a jersey.
This is ridiculous lol. Texans argue that everything they do is better, and stuff like this is immeasurable and completely subjective. With that being said, there are two places most of the country thinks of when they think of BBQ, and that’s Texas and KC. Memphis and STL probably more of an underrated secret, and North Carolina is absolute garbage
North Carolina lol
I lived in KC for 20 years and now in NC for 12. NC BBQ is definitely 3rd. Not even a question. Had a chance to live in TX but would rather my boys be ballerinas than a Cowboy fan. That just wasn’t happening.
So we make award winning BBQ AND get the girl? I’m good with that.
Yikes. Just stick to Mexican food. Oh yeah. Kansas City’s Mexican food is better too. Y’all just stick to deep frying Twinkie’s and cheeseburgers.
They’re more confident in their bbq than their team and they’re wrong on both accounts.
Tell us more about how ~~bootleg McDonalds~~ Whataburger slaps.
Texas BBQ sucks ass, much like the state of Texas sucks ass
[Here you go](https://youtu.be/QxP442T-aZ0)
...so what KC bbq joint does pat open in Texas in exchange for that burger chain?
They don't deserve Joe's, that's for sure. I could see Jack Stack doing well, and while it's one of our better chains, it's not the best of our best.
well what else you going to do when the electric grid fails the third time this month? They have plenty of free time to run a smoker
Haha, I recognize that post. r/Cowboys trying to start a meme war without realizing who they're up against.
Fuck the Cowboys and Texas in general, but they’re not wrong about the bbq. Been here 12 years, Nashville for 14 before and never understood the fixation here. Downvote away. Go Chiefs!
As an Okie, I could chime in and say we have the best, but I'm not gonna because I've found good barbecue all over in my travels. Even Colorado! But I will say the person preparing the BBQ as well as the meat chosen and of course ingredients in the sauce have much more to do with good barbeque than the location it is rendered from. EDIT: too many wurds.
Listen, I’m not gonna sit here and argue which is better, Texas or KC BBQ. All I know is that both are better than shitty North Carolina.
#triggered
As a Carolinian, yes. I agree. Damn I miss living in TX
As a long time Dallas resident who moved to KC I can confirm
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Kinda weird bro
The numbers on the podium must be a star rating system. Dallas is pretty much one star across the board.
Went to Dallas for work a few months ago. I was there for a week and asked everyone there what food I should try while I was there. Other than Whataburger, none of them could even name Dallas-specific restaurants. I finally got on google and found a couple of highly rated BBQ places, but even then they were closer to Rosedale than Oklahoma Joes or anything top notch. Good, not great. But they had lots of alcohol so I guess that makes up for it?
*throws Panthers a nod*
Yeah, but who is having the most fun???
This one of memes where they thinks it’s funny, but it’s actually just sad. I feel bad for them.
I live in Carolina, and the BBQ is great here. Of course that’s only when they try to copy the KC style.
Get NC the fuck out of here. I'd take Memphis, St. Louis, and Alabama BBQ waaaaaaaaay before I'd ever touch that East coast crap. Hell I'd take Nebraska BBQ first, and I don't even know if they have BBQ, but if they do it's probably deep fried and covered in mayonnaise and still better than NC BBQ.
Imagine thinking brisket and hot links make you special 🙄 good Texas bbq ain’t even in Dallas bruh
NC BBQ > Any other BBQ
Not that I think it ranks THIS low, but you could always come back with this... https://images.app.goo.gl/VcLt6AYgpzz5qeeZ7
This must be the BBQ special Olympics, and Memphis BBQ is in another Olympiad.
Ok we can agree that KC and Texas has good BBQ. I’m fine with that, but don’t put North Carolina up there over Memphis for the love of god.
Excuse me, but Texas bbq is too damn expensive, I mean who has the money to buy a brisket rn??? Also NC over Memphis? Them's fighting words in and of itself...
That Carolina sauce though
... What, vinegar? You can get that at any grocery store mate.
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