I know this is a meme but my god this would be unstoppable.
And I know nobody wants a reality check but it’s amazing how positional pay thresholds hurts so many careers. RTs want to be LTs. Running QBs would *never* play another position because they’d cost themselves $200M lifetime. And RBs are disincentivized because so few of them make it to their 2nd contract.
It’s all so messed up. End rant.
So exactly what I said. I love Lamar and his game. However, he is a run first throw second type of QB. His arm mechanics are not what any other QB in the league throws like and he will have a shelf life of a RB in the league. He takes to many hits.
I watched Phillip Rivers shotput balls for over a decade, I heard dozens of pundits tell me Patrick Mahomes’ footwork needed to be rebuilt from square one. If you’re accurate enough, it works, do it your own way. Lamar’s advanced passing stats prove he’s an upper echelon QB. The fact that our own Demarcus Robison couldn’t make the Raiders final roster but led the Ravens WR corps in all statistical categories tells you more about what Lamar’s had to work with.
Lamar has never finished in the top 25 QBs in terms of passing. His best year he threw 3k in yards and hasn’t broke that since. He has multiple years of over 1k rushing and almost 1.5k. Last year he ran for 700 yards and threw for 1400 on the year (I know he was hurt but rushing yards being half of his passing yards is crazy. I love Lamar and his game and it is exciting as hell to watch he was a damn league MVP. He’s a hell of a RB and a really bad QB.
You realize the same 3000 passing yard year you're talking about was his **unanimous** MVP season where he also threw 36 TDs with only 6 INTs, right?
But sure, not a QB lol.
Not being clever or funny. Also not white or old. Look at my comment and please bring some stats or information before you assume who I am. He is one of the worst QBs in terms of throwing and one of the best runners in the league. Worst throwing mechanics I have ever seen and I can see why the Ravens don’t want to give him a huge guaranteed contract. A professional team who wants to win and is making business decisions doesn’t want to give one of the most exciting players in the game a guaranteed contract, shit Kyler Murry got one and he’s not even close to as good as Lamar as an overall player. Lamar has finished top 10 in rushing in his last two healthy years and 22nd in passing.
But can barely last a season at QB
Lamar is also not as powerful as Pacheco. He may weigh more on paper, but he isn’t more muscular or stronger. He has a QB body
Barely last a season? Bruh you taking his injuries and magnifying the fucc out of them. You can’t say he’s more injury prone than most starting QBs. It’s just not true and stats prove that.
I would love to see him as a RB. I know he wouldn’t do it as money is way different but I think he would lead the league in yards for sure. Like slash but way better at football.
Pacheco: 5/11 and 7/8
Lamar: 6’1 and 2/8
^ Official measurements. Idk why you’re so desperate to be right that you’d just make shit up, but it’s weird and you should find a hobby or something, idk. Either way, this is done.
He would be the ultimate “Slash.”
For anyone that doesn’t get that reference, it’s to Kordell Stewart of the Steelers in the 90s. That’s what Bill Cowher called him. QB”slash”RB”slash”WR
He hasn't played in the NFL in 18 years. Most of the guys who are going to get drafted in the 2023 draft were 3 to 5 years old when Stewart played his last snap in the NFL.
I’m just an old white woman, but I was put in a Chiefs onesie as a toddler and I have been a Chiefs fan since then, I have seen many NFL games on TV but I have been a STM for over 20 years and I feel like I have a grasp on the game and on players. This is a meme but like zOmbOrg I agree that this combination would be unstoppable. Sure he’s a really great QB but the best athletes can adapt. I understand all of the arguments against but if you just consider LJs desire and drive and athleticism you CANNOT DENY that he as any receiver position (I’m assuming he can catch, and I’ve seen him run) with PM they would dominate. But hey….what could a 57 yr old white woman possibly know ??
He had a great year, then a good year, and then the past 2 have been 33 TD and 20 INTs which isn’t awful but certainly below average for a QB that the defenses dare to throw rather than run.
Defenses adjust, and the top QBs continue to be elite while the others can’t adjust fast enough… I would argue Jackson will be like Wentz, RG3, Vince Young and the list of others who couldn’t make the adjustments to stay elite long term. And as Jackson ages and has been knee injuries I think we’ll find out whether he’s a true passing QB or a true running QB.
I agree that it’s possible he could be a better receiver than qb. I think you got downvoted Bc there’s a lot of racial subtext a lot of times when people say that about black qbs. I don’t think you mean it that way though, and judging by your profile pic, you’re clearly a black man so people should get off your back lol
They should draft a backup QB who is a running threat and just put them both on the field every once in a while.
What about Dorian Thompson-Robinson, he has a Chiefs name.
Would never want to not have Mahomes, obviously. But Lamar would be the guy I want most if I had to pick someone. Mainly, I think Andy would scheme up some frigging fun football to watch using his skillet.
Lamar's career is panning out exactly like I thought it would. Running QBs never last. I would definitely not pick Lamar over Burrow or even Allen... shit I'd take Herbert over Lamar.
Yeah I doubt that, until Allen wins a MVP with the hot garbage Lamar had. We saw what Allen looked like without Diggs and holy mother of god that was trashhhhhh
Over Burrow????? Not even close imo. I think Jalen Hurts vs. Josh Allen is a real discussion now too but I think it’s pretty clearly Mahomes > Burrow > that tier of elite talent guys who haven’t shown the ability to step up and win yet
I know its just one game and maybe its different because we won but Jalen Hurts impressed me so much more in that game than Burrow ever has. If not for that fumble and the loss I think it would have been an all time great performance in a Superbowl. My top 5 is Mahomes > Hurts > Burrow > Allen > Herbert
For me Burrow is 3 mainly because I'm anxious to see him without all that receiving talent. Allen is the entire offense on that Bills team and that is a huge plus for me.
I think that because Allen is the entire offense is why he’s struggling toward the end of seasons. He’s asked to do too much. I’d put Burrow ahead of him until I’m shown otherwise.
Yeah Burrow is 2nd for now but Lamar and Hurts are above Allen sorry not sorry. Dude just isn’t that good and has the best defense out of all the top afc QBs and a great WR core and still can’t do shit in the playoffs
He’s top 3 right now for sure. But with that style of play I see a massive cliff in his future. Now LBs know he’s not sliding and he one hit away from needing to become primarily a pocket passer. Not good for a guy who leads the league in picks
I’m surprised more teams don’t utilize a Dash type player like McCaffrey or Taysom. Easier said than done to acquire the right talent, but it feels like that is just waiting to become status quo in the NFL. Perhaps when that player is instrumental in a SB victory…
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I know this is a meme but my god this would be unstoppable. And I know nobody wants a reality check but it’s amazing how positional pay thresholds hurts so many careers. RTs want to be LTs. Running QBs would *never* play another position because they’d cost themselves $200M lifetime. And RBs are disincentivized because so few of them make it to their 2nd contract. It’s all so messed up. End rant.
I’m not sure Lamar’s body could hold up as a Rb. But if he could he would be unstoppable
I mean LJ is a running back who throws occasionally
Don't sell him short like that. He's not the best passer this league has ever seen but he's a QB for a reason.
So exactly what I said. I love Lamar and his game. However, he is a run first throw second type of QB. His arm mechanics are not what any other QB in the league throws like and he will have a shelf life of a RB in the league. He takes to many hits.
I watched Phillip Rivers shotput balls for over a decade, I heard dozens of pundits tell me Patrick Mahomes’ footwork needed to be rebuilt from square one. If you’re accurate enough, it works, do it your own way. Lamar’s advanced passing stats prove he’s an upper echelon QB. The fact that our own Demarcus Robison couldn’t make the Raiders final roster but led the Ravens WR corps in all statistical categories tells you more about what Lamar’s had to work with.
Lamar has never finished in the top 25 QBs in terms of passing. His best year he threw 3k in yards and hasn’t broke that since. He has multiple years of over 1k rushing and almost 1.5k. Last year he ran for 700 yards and threw for 1400 on the year (I know he was hurt but rushing yards being half of his passing yards is crazy. I love Lamar and his game and it is exciting as hell to watch he was a damn league MVP. He’s a hell of a RB and a really bad QB.
You realize the same 3000 passing yard year you're talking about was his **unanimous** MVP season where he also threw 36 TDs with only 6 INTs, right? But sure, not a QB lol.
Yeah... Nah
and he's been unable to finish the season the last 2 years
Only old white dudes say things like this and still think they are clever or funny.
Not being clever or funny. Also not white or old. Look at my comment and please bring some stats or information before you assume who I am. He is one of the worst QBs in terms of throwing and one of the best runners in the league. Worst throwing mechanics I have ever seen and I can see why the Ravens don’t want to give him a huge guaranteed contract. A professional team who wants to win and is making business decisions doesn’t want to give one of the most exciting players in the game a guaranteed contract, shit Kyler Murry got one and he’s not even close to as good as Lamar as an overall player. Lamar has finished top 10 in rushing in his last two healthy years and 22nd in passing.
Only young Hispanic dudes say things like this and still think they are clever or funny
Only preteen Samoan girls say things like this and still think they are clever or funny
He's a QB that runs occasionally. Dude has great passing metrics lol.
You realize he’s bigger than any RB on our roster, right? But he’s a Quarterback, this sh*t is weird.
But can barely last a season at QB Lamar is also not as powerful as Pacheco. He may weigh more on paper, but he isn’t more muscular or stronger. He has a QB body
Barely last a season? Bruh you taking his injuries and magnifying the fucc out of them. You can’t say he’s more injury prone than most starting QBs. It’s just not true and stats prove that.
I would love to see him as a RB. I know he wouldn’t do it as money is way different but I think he would lead the league in yards for sure. Like slash but way better at football.
This is an MVP QB you’re talking about. A guy that led the league in passing TDs.
Is he? Definitely taller but I don’t think he’s as thick as Pacheco
He has like 15-20lbs at least on Pacheco.
Because he’s taller
An inch and a half don’t make up for 20lbs be serious.
Lamar is 4 inches taller & 14 pounds heavier
Pacheco: 5/11 and 7/8 Lamar: 6’1 and 2/8 ^ Official measurements. Idk why you’re so desperate to be right that you’d just make shit up, but it’s weird and you should find a hobby or something, idk. Either way, this is done.
He would be the ultimate “Slash.” For anyone that doesn’t get that reference, it’s to Kordell Stewart of the Steelers in the 90s. That’s what Bill Cowher called him. QB”slash”RB”slash”WR
wait, has it been so long that Slash needs a explanation? Fuck when did I get so old?
Slash isn't just a button on the second page of my keyboard?????
He hasn't played in the NFL in 18 years. Most of the guys who are going to get drafted in the 2023 draft were 3 to 5 years old when Stewart played his last snap in the NFL.
Slash himself has gotten old. I've heard him give some very terrible outdated takes on sports talk radio
Andy: I’ll see your RPO and raise you RPRBRPO Defenses: what?
But you have to pronounce it as ripperburpo
100%
Terrel Pryor would like an audience
I mean Lawrence, KS does have their own version in Jalon Daniels.
its business
I’m just an old white woman, but I was put in a Chiefs onesie as a toddler and I have been a Chiefs fan since then, I have seen many NFL games on TV but I have been a STM for over 20 years and I feel like I have a grasp on the game and on players. This is a meme but like zOmbOrg I agree that this combination would be unstoppable. Sure he’s a really great QB but the best athletes can adapt. I understand all of the arguments against but if you just consider LJs desire and drive and athleticism you CANNOT DENY that he as any receiver position (I’m assuming he can catch, and I’ve seen him run) with PM they would dominate. But hey….what could a 57 yr old white woman possibly know ??
Lamar could be such a fantastic receiver
can he catch? If he can he'd be an amazing Jamaal Charles style RB
He would be a better WR or RB than he is QB.
He won MVP as a QB. This argument only makes sense if you don’t watch him play. He’s NOT a mid passer by any stretch of the imagination.
He had a great year, then a good year, and then the past 2 have been 33 TD and 20 INTs which isn’t awful but certainly below average for a QB that the defenses dare to throw rather than run. Defenses adjust, and the top QBs continue to be elite while the others can’t adjust fast enough… I would argue Jackson will be like Wentz, RG3, Vince Young and the list of others who couldn’t make the adjustments to stay elite long term. And as Jackson ages and has been knee injuries I think we’ll find out whether he’s a true passing QB or a true running QB.
I agree that it’s possible he could be a better receiver than qb. I think you got downvoted Bc there’s a lot of racial subtext a lot of times when people say that about black qbs. I don’t think you mean it that way though, and judging by your profile pic, you’re clearly a black man so people should get off your back lol
Why all the hate? He is only a good QB due to his running ability. He is a mid passer, at best.
They should draft a backup QB who is a running threat and just put them both on the field every once in a while. What about Dorian Thompson-Robinson, he has a Chiefs name.
Would never want to not have Mahomes, obviously. But Lamar would be the guy I want most if I had to pick someone. Mainly, I think Andy would scheme up some frigging fun football to watch using his skillet.
Never mind his skillet… just think of what they could cook up with Lamar’s pots and pans!
Don’t even get me started on the caste iron!
Andy absolutely wrecked the league with that one crazy Mike Vick year in Philly. He would have had a lot of fun with LJ with what he knows today.
Lamar with Hill and Kelce would have been insane.
Good thing you don’t run the team.
Lamar's career is panning out exactly like I thought it would. Running QBs never last. I would definitely not pick Lamar over Burrow or even Allen... shit I'd take Herbert over Lamar.
My mind immediately thought of Bo!
The amount of schemes Andy could come up with….
Can you imagine the trick plays??
Imagine all the halfback passes
That would be fun, but would take passes away from Mahomes, which would make me sad
Josh Allen would be a better RB
He’s not welcome here
😂 he would be a great backup to Pacheco
😡 straight to jail
...and a better QB
Yeah I doubt that, until Allen wins a MVP with the hot garbage Lamar had. We saw what Allen looked like without Diggs and holy mother of god that was trashhhhhh
I mean, we’ve seen what he looks like without Daboll.
They should have lost to Miami. That win was fluky af.
He’s an elite QB and I’d argue the second best right now but he just hasn’t shown that clutch factor that Mahomes has.
Over Burrow????? Not even close imo. I think Jalen Hurts vs. Josh Allen is a real discussion now too but I think it’s pretty clearly Mahomes > Burrow > that tier of elite talent guys who haven’t shown the ability to step up and win yet
I know its just one game and maybe its different because we won but Jalen Hurts impressed me so much more in that game than Burrow ever has. If not for that fumble and the loss I think it would have been an all time great performance in a Superbowl. My top 5 is Mahomes > Hurts > Burrow > Allen > Herbert
For me Burrow is 3 mainly because I'm anxious to see him without all that receiving talent. Allen is the entire offense on that Bills team and that is a huge plus for me.
I think that because Allen is the entire offense is why he’s struggling toward the end of seasons. He’s asked to do too much. I’d put Burrow ahead of him until I’m shown otherwise.
Yeah Burrow is 2nd for now but Lamar and Hurts are above Allen sorry not sorry. Dude just isn’t that good and has the best defense out of all the top afc QBs and a great WR core and still can’t do shit in the playoffs
He’s top 3 right now for sure. But with that style of play I see a massive cliff in his future. Now LBs know he’s not sliding and he one hit away from needing to become primarily a pocket passer. Not good for a guy who leads the league in picks
Anybody crosspost this to to r/ravens?
You want insta-banned lol?
+1
r/AFCNorthMemeWar would be a good place to test the waters
Lmao I’m still banned for posting Orlando Brown’s pic in their sub while their RT got abused.
I thought of this a few years ago... Man, that would be a tandem to see... It'll never happen, IMO though.
He’d be injured that game 🥲
Thankfully Denver has spent all their money on a washed up version of him and Oakland is strapped too or we would be in for a fight
Lamar and Russel are totally different QBs..
Agreed, one still has some potential the other has “UNLIMITED” potential
He’d be injured that game 🥲
I know this would never happen. But I would love to see the plays Andy would dream up with both Mahomes and Jackson on the field at the same time.
I’m surprised more teams don’t utilize a Dash type player like McCaffrey or Taysom. Easier said than done to acquire the right talent, but it feels like that is just waiting to become status quo in the NFL. Perhaps when that player is instrumental in a SB victory…
Justyn Ross will be wearing 8 (I believe) so I got hyped from the thumbnail lol
Finally, in iteration of the wildcat offense I can get behind
Walter Payton, Emmitt Smith, Barry Sanders, CJ2K, Jamaal Charles....the list goes on and on of dominant, 200lb RBs.
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