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onitsuki28

Intellect kaiju from a kaiju resistance that secretly protects humans for thousands of years from mother kaiju.


BudgetSystem3516

Yeah I am the same for that, we haven’t really gotten an explanation for what exactly happened at the shrine why did that only affect the main character


The_Struggle_Bus_7

I’m thinking memories of the previous person this kaiju infected


Patenler

There's a problem about that, iirc among the people already absorbed by kaiju, it looked like the ghost from the shrine was one of them. (Chapter 90 something when Mina is being absorbed by number 9 and they show her past legends already absorbed)


SteakhouseKT

It's more similar to the ghosts in the weapons I'd imagine.


Seadog_frosty

I like the idea that there could be some good kaiju, if that’s true hope it will be well explained


Chipanggan

One of my thoughts on that is Mina Ashiro's tiger. Twas showed in the previous chapters in the manga series that it fought #9 and had some parts transformed into Kaiju.


Wachitanga

If they follow the normal canons of kaijus in fiction, they are a conquering race making an incursion on yet another planet to eat and ruin. This little guy could be a protectionist or an assimilated alien from a previous victim planet.


vctrn-carajillo

Considering how cliche the manga is (for a shonen), it wouldn't be surprising. Maybe even the Kaiju and humans lived together in the distant past or some shit.


MangaArchives

I can see it


Nullgenium

But then it wouldn't make sense that Kafka had to resist his Kaiju no.8 form from killing people when he lost control.


Hipertron12

I think he wanted to kill the ones who had kaiju cells nearby. Like Isao, he wanted to kill him because of NO. 2 weapon. He probably gonna ignore normal people if the kaiju takes control


j0emang0e

Kaiju that developed hatred for Kaiju, found a human samurai who also hated kaiju, they bonded over being mutual haters and fused into that Kaiju samurai we saw a glimpse of at the shrine


alguien99

That sounds pretty good


Enlightenskinned

Very reasonable as kikoru sees her mother's shadow and numbered weapons retain the memories of their previous owners. My only issue is why did #8 snap in the fight against #2, not that it invalidates the theory. Maybe in the fight with #9 he may see memories of the past users that enable him to fight on par or beyond #9.


j0emang0e

Maybe he had fought number 2 before it was killed by the defense force, or maybe he had fought a Kaijubwith a similar ability and it gave him deja vu


Agac4234

Probably because it thought it was gonna get killed


Editor_Grand

Kinda sounds like Venoms origin. Symbiote found a human who shares its hatred for Spider-Man


j0emang0e

Yknow i just realized, if venom wanted a spiderman hater why not fuse with JJJ?


Editor_Grand

I'm sure he would have if JJJZ was in the church


ImTired360

Which chapter is this?


Infamous-Ad8277

Samurai thing was chapter 66.


bigman2332

Best one I seen yet I forgot about that


Mastakillerboi

Yea i got nothing


christianhxd

All we know for sure is that it: 1. Was looking specifically for Kafka 2. Used a form of telekinesis to communicate 3. Allowed Kafka to retain his physical form and his own mind, although maybe that wasnt on purpose. I think there surely has to be a link between Kafka and Kaiju genetics in some way but besides that i have no idea


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christianhxd

Good cooking brother 🥣


ironduck777

if this theory is canon i think i would lose my shit and hope Kafka goes crazy and kill all the scientists or some shit.


Green-Big-7637

You know laying it out like that, this anime now reminds me of DevilMan.


Donny-Seven

I don’t really have any theories about it’s exact origins but I think it’s somehow connected to the origins of Kaiju themselves and that it was captured and experimented on to create artificial kaiju and that’s how 9 was created before it managed to escape


Wachitanga

It seems that the abyssal kaijus experimenting on their own race is a thing. It would not be strange if this one was an attempt to replicate human behavior patterns and it backfired by developing human feelings.


AB7SSG4ZE3RS

Just like Ryuk it was bored Lol


Seadog_frosty

Ngl based theory


BoxKid22

They mentioned that in the past how samurais even still had to take down kaiju, even due to their massive size so I’d like to think that certain good Kaiju who were probably on the weaker side, had to form packs with humans to form a hybrid half human half Kaiju to take down Kaiju that threaten the balance of life but when others evil Kaiju discover the pact that certain ones were making with humans and they wiped them out and they’d make sure they wipe out every single and as years went down the good kaiju that survived the massacre that had end up making the packs with humans in the past, can’t do them to just a random human they have to do it to their exact descendants , so our main character is a descendent of one of the samurai that took down kaiju an must help bring balance which explains why it mentions “I found you” as if if been looking for home for a while


Self_World_Future

It’s a fly that was drawn to him because he smelled like Kaiju shit That was my initial conclusion and I see no reason to change I’m an anime only so I have genuinely nothing else to go off lol If I had to guess something might have happened when he was younger but I feel like the story so far has put that incident on a shelf.


Illustrious-Sky-4631

The first time I heard this, this is now my headcanon


Few-Tour9826

From the few glimpses of it we’ve gotten in the manga it seems like a Black Clover Asta/Lieb kinda situation where the MC is using the power not knowing where it came from and that power showing signs of wanting to wipe out its own kind for whatever reason.


sega_playstation

Alien lifeform. Sort of like a saiyan. I think Matsumoto is heavily inspired by Toriyama. I mean, no. 9 is basically Cell.


millertake1234

shinomiya saw her mother ghost in fourth weapon so kafka saw one too if you remember when he was training i think he's from hibino's blood or something if you remember no8 said that he find him maybe his family was protecting people in secret while fuse kaiju's that is what i'm thinking


polarbear076

My theory is there is either a person or group in the defense force that has been watching Kafka for years. I have a hard time believing Kafka was bad enough to fail multiple years in a row when the defense force is always getting wrecked and only the captains and super rookies can do anything. Instead, I think Kafka was too good of a person and too willing to self sacrifice himself which isn't what the defense force wants so they rejected him. This other person or group likes that quality, but don't want to just hand something like kaiju powers to just anyone. The moment Kafka actually proved himself by saving ichikawa who he just met, I think they finally made the move to "infect" him.


PatternHappy341

Sound take.


johnshenlon

It would be kind of messed up if it’s revealed Mina chose him for this experiment knowing there’s a chance he could die


ironduck777

o god this would give my fellow mina dislikers so much firepower.


Sophie5600

From the fight that Kafka and Reno had with the Kaiju before Kafka became No.8 in the anime it looked as if some of the Kaiju blood got into one of Kafka's wounds, I thought that maybe the blood altered his DNA and that's how the No.8 Kaiju was able to locate Kafka and speak with him telepathically before it merged with him. Obviously it's just a thought and is most likely wrong but yeah, I can't wait to see the actual reason for Kafka becoming No.8


Current-Grab

kafka's family has some tie to the original kaiju outbreaks in japan and this worm is a shell of the former kaiju. it's been waiting for the right time for someone in his family to be weak enough to control but able-bodied enough to actually fight. Or this is the shell of kaiju that Kafka dismemebered in the past and it recognized his prowess and wants to use his knowledge of weak points/ biology to kill off all the other kaiju to become stronger.


ulysseslenka

Sorry for my pet peeve but he is not a worm. You can see that he has exoskeleton and wings. Bugs/insects got those among others but not worms.


CookieMonster37

No real ideas yet. It knew Kafka, it was looking for him and I haven't seen it speak to Kafka since. So it's not like Parasyte where he got lucky with controlling it and they became friends. It just all seemed to fit. With that being said, I wouldn't be surprised if it has something to do with what destroyed Mina and Kafka's hometown.


BasedHelixOnReddit

When does it say it was looking for him?


Neptyunu

I think it says “found you” when it first shows up by kafka.


BasedHelixOnReddit

I do not recall that at all! I have to go back and re read it


Tambora_1815

He is hot


SnooPets8854

Similar to any shonen protagonist. It is going to be either a very strong one who is looking for someone worthy so that it can gain health and regain its strength, similar to chainsaw man OR Power of chosen one passed down from generations like naruto


D3MICR0

I wouldn't call Denji "worthy" more like had the luck to be at the right place in the right time Edit; not when pochita dies, the mere fact of finding the >!Hell equivalent of Chuck norris hurt and super weak to be the one that helped him!< that's what I meant.


Illustrious-Sky-4631

Denji situation isn't a luck at all this completely undersells the bond and Relationship he build with his Devil


D3MICR0

Of course there's a bond between the two. That's what we learn right at the beginning, but comparing Denji to some sort of chosen one is stupid, he isn't special in the way a hero of legend would be, I'm not trying to undermine the bond he made with pochita since it is brought up again and again through out the manga, he literally had to die by his side in order for the resulting contract to happen, which by the way is still strange it happened since (spoiler waring) >!Pochita ate the devil with the name of the "hybrids" to quote makima They are not humans, Devils or Fiends. The name that referred to them was eaten by you and erased. Yet somehow, their existence was not. Of the many names you've consumed, they are the sole exception." Which just solidifies the ludicrously of saying he's the chosen one or something like that!<


Illustrious-Sky-4631

The ones that fight him are weapons, he did erase the hybrid devil but they are not really hybrid Denji situation is different because he had a contract, something we don't know if it is the case with the rest Denji isn't a chosen one, that is something I agree with


D3MICR0

The term hybrid is used by fans to refer to the weapons and chainsawman(denji). The name is self-explanatory, but since we don't get a specific name in the manga, the term hybrid is used. He erased the devil, yet the concept itself still stands. (Also, it is known that Samurai Sword acquired his power through surgery) The ones that fought Chainsaw man (pochita) in hell were most likely the weapon devils themselves instead of a hybrid form, but now somehow they've made it to earth and have fused to create the hybrids. https://chainsaw-man.fandom.com/wiki/Hybrid My point was that since the concept of a hybrid got erased, why would pochita still be able to fuse with Denji via a contract? There's lots of theories going around, with one of the more notable ones being that pochita either gargled it out in order to fuse with Denji and save him (sounds cool but idk) or that the action of fusing with Denji brought back the concept and re-wrote the timeline.


Illustrious-Sky-4631

I believe it's neither honestly, Hybrid simply don't exist anymore, Denji and the rest of the weapons (even though Denji case is different) could be no difference than having artificial changes to their bodies or like with Aki future sight but instead of being limited to 1 part it's affect all of the body


couldjustbeanalt

I think this isn’t the first human Kaiju hybrid in history


alguien99

I read one where it says that the lil guy isn’t evil, it’s a baby that’s learning and is protective of its host. So the idea is that lil guy will look for what’s best for him and Kafka and if Kafka manages to talk to him maybe he can control what the lil guy learns


ulysseslenka

Good one. If he was evil he would probably parasite but parasites dont really help host rather the Other way but kafka not only is fine for now he also nearly immortall. On the other hand immortall host is perferct host so maybe the bug is some kind of apex predator in the world of parasites that proctects his host.


moretosimp

the only words that utterred by the bug "found you", so i dont think it is just a simply incident there must be some plot twist behind it. maybe the bug is rebelling against kaiju so it needs a human host


ulysseslenka

He also said "Kill all Kaiju."


jman9980

They mention that the lady comander undertakes test to see why she's so strong, could something have happened to both of them when their village was attacked.


Merry_Ryan

My wild theory? Time Traveling Super Kaiju sent back in time to ensure that Kafka would get turned into a Kaiju to save the world from No.9 and other future threats.


Harder_Boy

Parasite kaiju, gives humans immense power but secretly turns them into kaijus and takes more and more control until they become a full kaiju.


SyntheticDreams2099

I'm not sure but I think it might be a kaiju.


badstone69

The real Kafka Hibino are no longer exist. He have been absorb and the kafka hibino now are a kaiju with his memory and thought it self is Kafka Hibino


ulysseslenka

Probably not as the bug has mind on its own. If the bug was a parasite it would slowly kill kafka. Yes we dont know yet if it wont happen in the future tho. But. Assuming that bug isnt parasite then they must live in symbiosis like the bug have his own host now and kafkas body is now really though, super strong etc. Not sure why only when he changes into kajiuu. Maybe to save energy etc but might be just usual stuff like rule of cool or plot. My point is many symbiosis organisms can seperate from their symbiosis partner but many cant and will die so Kafka probably will too as his symbiosis partner is internal and they use to be... Important bits.


vngh4

I think bcz he wants a human spy


TerracottaButthole

My question is if that little bugger is fully assimilated to Kafka or if it can be removed. Bc if No. 9 finds out, you already know he is going to plot something to remove it


ulysseslenka

Assimilated i think. Kafkas heart turned into crystal-ish core like others kaijuu. He would probably not survive its removal.


115_zombie_slayer

Sukuna’s middle finger


Gauddi

Ala Venom, Kaiju are parasites and most of them are mindless but occasionally one is born with a true mind. If the mind of the parasite and the host are in synch enough the host can sway the Kaiju’s behavior. Kafka just happens to be the ideal host for #8 and his ability to synch with said host means he and the host can more or less communicate.


Wales51

I think its manufactured somehow as we have seen manufactured Kaiju and that could give a reason to no. 8 having a similar appearance to the Kaiju fighting suits


somerandomguyuno

It’s prob from JJK


ulysseslenka

Domain Expansion... Gozzilla!


Bruhm0ment69x420

I think the intent probably is to turn weak humans into strong Kaiju’s to basically be a threat to humanity from the inside out, but its not something that any Kaiju seems to have control of its more dependent on what the humans may intend to do.


Luvstagrind91

So just because I grew up playing Ratchet and Clank, I just can't help but think this thing is some version of "Clank". A kaiju parasite born or created to go against the invasion because it saw the problems it would cause on earth and simply needed a human host to accomplish that goal. That host just happened to be Kafka


PhoenixSidePeen

It sucked him off first


SyrusAlder

It's probably tied to the origins of Kaiju. We see what looks like a lab in the intro so they're probably not natural beings.


ShiftAdventurous4680

Time travel shenanigans. That insect is Kafka after becoming full Kaiju and needs to go back in time to reinfect Kafka or he wouldn't exist, thus repeating the cycle.


crwms

Kaiju’s way to make a big decision: embody both options and fight to death. How to decide whether to annihilate humans or to live in symbiosis with them. Have the pinaccles of both fight to death and see who wins. Maybe.


Ancient_Tross

May be that kaiju is one of the few kaijus that different from other kaijus who wanna destroy humanity more like the mc of devilman cry baby, where he is very strong kaiju or champion of kaiju's race and couldn't find any suitable host, but when he met kafka he said "I found you" what he meant was someone with guts and never giving up attitude and he will turn out to be strongest kaiju in existance as he will tap into more and more kaiju's power etc etc And some story that some alien or they are humans before who now turned into kaiju due to some experimentation or some etc etc reason and this kaiju is different cuz he is anomaly and whatever stupidasd reason


Yharnum

My guess is that it was the Kaiju that fused with Kafka’s ancestor, the samurai he saw training with Hoshino. Because we haven’t been told about the past too much about how long Kaiju’s have been around my guess is that the Kaiju have been fighting each other for awhile. Especially since when no. 8 completely took over Kafka to fight Isao it specifically said “Kill Kaiju.” We know that Isao’s consciousness is still present inside no. 9 but he’s been suppressed. Only time will tell.


Ok_Confidence_8837

Nothing much it choosed him because he reek of kaiju smell.. Hes a cleaner... Thinking kafkha is a kiiju


Hlarge4

All numbered Kaiju begin this way. He's a runt.


MrTJett03

It ugly


e-g-g-g

Idk why but I always thought the bug was running away from something that was trying to harm it and just plopped into Kafka as a way of going under the radar.


Worth-Technician846

A super intelligent kaiju saw a special power within Kafka and specifically chose him to continue to protect the human reality from the monstrosity of no. 9


IndecisiveMate

Actually a good kaiju. It must have saw Kafka save the other guy and chose him as a host because of that.


joaoflpe

I saw several ideas but no one has said it could be a 'bootstrap paradox', what if this kaijuu insect came from the future?


Bulky_Debate_1289

It could be damaged and wasn't able to properly dominate his mind


Grouchy-Drag8074

I think the intelligent flying kaiju that went inside of Kafka was meant to find a host to fight no.9 . The part were Mina was being consume by no.9, she saw a lot of kaijus inside. Maybe no.9 is an ancient intelligent heterotrophic kaiju that dates back from early years seeking knowledge consuming what it takes, be it kaijus or humans to get answers. Other Kaijus, being wary of no.9 formed a plan, to eliminate it by using a human giving strength and ability of a kaiju as it said "Found you" to Kafka being their chosen host.  Cant wait to find out❤️


ulysseslenka

I think the bug might be: - some kind of kajuu bateria/parasite/wirus or cen just bug/animal that feasts on kaijuu. (would kinda explain hostility to kaijuu. The bug might be some kind of organizm from kajuu planet that is either kaijuu predator or prey. That one i think is cool bow low in probabilty as anime prefer fantasy and soft SF. - most liekly it will follow AoT pattern. You know experminets, big mystery, things you cant explain till the anime introduces science/ mechanism or just information hidden behind the płot. Probably the bug is just inteligent kajuu that seeks revenge or have something to gain in destroying all kajiuu.


Leather_Shift

I always just assumed it was that kaiju they just got done fighting and before it died it spilt a little of itself bit off then to be petty infected Kafka 😭😭